Advanced English Conversation How To Be A Global Citizen with Real Life English
hi i’m vanessa from speak english with
vanessa calm today i have a special
surprise for you you are going to see a
conversation between myself and the
real-life English guys we had a
conversation on Google Hangouts and I
want to show you what we had to say
today about politics and understanding
each other and becoming a global citizen
you’re going to learn some new
expressions and some tips for how we can
open our minds to understand people who
are pretty different from ourselves and
you’re also going to see why Facebook is
not helping the situation of people
understanding each other let’s take a
look at this conversation video together
and if you would like to listen to the
podcast episode you can click on the
link in the description below and listen
to their podcast version of this video
let’s get started oh yeah global
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our guest from the United States teacher
Vanessa how are you doing today Vanessa
oh I’m doing great hi everyone thanks
for having me here yeah it’s awesome to
be here awesome to have you good so
today we are doing trying something new
we are recording
and we are broadcasting on YouTube
through teacher Betances channel so this
is you can you can go to teacher of an
esse on youtube we will put the link in
the show notes our podcast and you can
go watch this live check out her YouTube
channel and today today I’m sure we’re
going to talk a little bit about that
talk about it madessa and then we’re
going to move on to global communication
and talk about all the awesome things
there is to talk about that so he tell
us a little bit about yourself
sure well that’s a huge question but for
this audience hi everyone I’m Vanessa
and I’ve been teaching English in the
world in various places France the u.s.
Korea for the past seven years or so and
within the last two years I decided that
the Internet is the best way to go so
I’ve been teaching online for about two
years
and it’s awesome it’s a great way to
connect with people all around the world
and at the moment I don’t live in Brazil
like you guys I live on the east coast
of the US so that’s probably where I’m
gonna live for the next couple years but
so far so good
the internet is a great way to kind of
pretend like you’re traveling when
you’re not always in another country so
hopefully that will work for everyone
out there as well sooo that’s the
beautiful thing about the internet you
can connect via Skype would be another
video connection and speak with people
all around the world traveling thousands
of miles right you Kate globally yeah so
what’s your YouTube channel I just see
that you are kicking ass you’re doing
and you’re publishing these great videos
teaching people English and dynamic new
ways helping people develop confidence
so I’m really impressed so um it’s so
what’s what’s your focus on your YouTube
channel well so far my focus for YouTube
is well actually this goes back to what
the what we’re going to talk about today
but I’ll focus on just your question
first of all it on YouTube so far is to
help people gain confidence to learn
what we as native English speakers use
instead of focusing on
more textbook style grammar or
pronunciation or vocabulary that I think
a lot of people learned in school and
didn’t really have much success with in
the real world so it’s trying to focus
on using that in a real way confidently
so hopefully that is being successful so
far so how does how does one develop
confidence in their learning process
well confidence I feel like is a mindset
shift so first of all we have to be okay
with making mistakes because that’s just
part of life we’re always going to make
mistakes so when you make a mistake
first of all being okay with it being
nice to yourself and realizing hey it’s
okay
everyone makes mistakes this is
something that’s normal and necessary
and it means that you’re learning it
means that you’re doing something to
progress instead of just staying where
you are
so being okay with making mistakes and I
think a big part of confidence is being
in a community with other people who are
doing something similar so that’s why I
try to do a lot of live events and try
to encourage people to leave comments
and YouTube videos and in courses and
Facebook groups trying to really
encourage people to communicate and
connect with each other because that’s
when you realize that oh I make a
mistake but they do too so it’s ok this
is something that we’re just doing
together and successfully communicating
still even though it’s not perfect yet
so that’s something that helps you feel
better about yourself when you’re with
other people mm-hmm absolutely I would
say that’s um it’s a beautiful insight
into both language learning and life in
general right you just have to get going
not be paralyzed I think people get
paralyzed the beginning like will have
to be perfect or I can actually start
but if you keep doing that you learn and
you forget never really actually learn
how to use what you’ve been learning
from the textbook yeah I guess as adults
that’s a hard thing because maybe kids
feel more comfortable making mistakes
because they haven’t had
a lifetime of a negative attitude about
mistakes like big red marks on your
paper kids haven’t really experienced
that yet but as adults we’ve had more
negative experiences with mistakes and
usually it’s not real-world negative
experience it’s just school negative
experience where if you tried to say
those things in the real world no one is
gonna say why didn’t you say that
correctly it’s not a big deal but in
school there’s a lot of negativity about
making mistakes and trying to be perfect
so I think we have to kind of relearn
that it’s okay be nice to yourself
and just try to follow the path that’s
going to be more natural and help you to
enjoy learning and enjoy making mistakes
- I think - like with the thing is that
it’s a language and the problem with
that is that we compare it to our native
language and so people because they
speak their native language so easily
they expect that when they speak English
they want to also have that same level
but it’s very very difficult to get to
that because you have to think that you
grew up with your native language you
have had so many hours just like
speaking it as a child you know playing
around with the language and it’s like
with English you probably work or you’re
studying or something and you don’t have
that same amount of time you can
dedicate to learning it yeah but I think
people when they’re learning something
else that they’re learning martial arts
or sports or art or anything they expect
that there’s going to be mistakes and
roadblocks and stuff but for some reason
when they learn languages I think
because they’re comparing it to their
first language that they they don’t have
that same comfort wait what does
roadblock mean Ethan the roadblock is
like a barrier something that’s in the
way it blocks the road a roadblock yeah
you put up for construction or something
like that so we need to break down the
roadblocks drive like a crazy person and
push the boy at least metaphorically
awesome so moving into today’s main
focus which is everything to do with
confidence
and communication and having courage is
global communication today we want to
talk a little bit about global
communication in US it’s three Americans
this is why Chad’s not in here because
you have an American an American ask for
it to be in this podcast today
recently we elected a new president and
there’s a lot of controversy around this
and it really brings up a lot of
questions about communication on a
national and international scale so we
decided that this is an excellent topic
for today’s podcast so what it what is
it to be a global communicator Ethan so
that’s a really big question it’s like
the it’s like the big question you get
to Vanessa before so global
communication and it’s I think at the
fundamental level of it it is
communicating across cultures so someone
who is able to communicate globally it’s
going to be able to meet people from any
part of the world and be able to talk to
them in a non-judgmental way looking
beyond the stereotypes that they might
have about that person like for example
if you go to France you’re not going to
assume that everyone there is going to
be rude or that everyone there like
sitting around drinking wine and eating
cheese or someone if you come to Brazil
you’re not going to soom everyone here
loves soccer and samba and that they
live in the Amazon so it’s kind of like
coming with a more open perspective and
curiosity I think is really important to
like wanting to learn beyond just the
superficial level that you have coming
from your background excellence I work
on some changing our mind this is what
we talked about in the past a growth
mindset being being open to growing be
open to evolving your perspective and
also your skills and your ability with
not just English but the way you look at
the world so that can be really
difficult to do because you’ve grown up
with your background you’ve been hearing
your whole life that your culture is
right that your religion is right that
whatever background you come from that’s
basically what you’ve been hearing is
right all your life so it’s like
suddenly if you’re introduced to go
education you talked feel from other
cultures you might see oh maybe this
isn’t right which means that I’m wrong
which means that I have to change and
that’s uncomfortable a lot of times
we’re like no like that’s that’s just
wrong it’s more comfortable to stay
where I am but you have to break out of
that bubble one get out of your comfort
zone and be willing to be curious and
open your mind to new perspectives that
might be different than what you know
but they’re going to help you to become
just much much better as a person as a
global so role in empathy the world
empathy is really important so a lot of
times you you hear somebody in the speak
and maybe you don’t agree with them but
you won’t even listen so we don’t have
to agree with them to really understand
the perspective so it’s really important
for us to really put the put ourselves
in their shoes to really put ourselves
in their place so - is there quo totally
like my Aristotle that says on the mark
of an educated mind is the ability to
accept a thought or an idea without
without I’m sorry I understand the
thought accept it
understand a thought entertain about it
it’s obtained about sorry entertain the
thought without accepting it
what does entertainment in this case
because people trying to entertain like
watching your favorite TV show yeah so
entertainment to consider the thought to
understand the thought into to be able
to even represent that bot and
communicate to that bot that person it
seems like when we hear other people’s
opinions we have to not talk and we
can’t give our judgement or our opinion
about it and that is so hard so when you
are an educated mind or open minded
thinker you have to keep your opinion to
yourself first of all and just listen to
the other person and I think a lot of
people want to just change someone
else’s mind immediately tell you what I
think and this is my opinion and so to
really change someone’s mind or to
connect with someone you have to have
some common ground first so to just say
your opinion right away and judge what
they said is gonna cause some tension
that is going to be really difficult to
get rid of when you actually want to
really open your mind and try to talk
about your opinions you’re kind of
negating what you want to say to them
because you didn’t give them a chance to
speak in the first place so listening is
important yeah there’s a great phrase
it’s like you have two ears and one
mouth use them accordingly which means
that like you know you have you should
listen twice as much as you speak and
there’s there’s like another principle
that is a lot of times like what Vanessa
was just saying is that we’re listening
to someone but we’re not actually
listening we’re just listening to
respond and especially if someone has
different opinions we’re just listening
to be like okay what can I say to like
change their mind even though when you
start getting into that sort of
communication which is definitely not
global communication then you’re just
kind of creating a larger and larger
divide because you’re gonna say no I’m
right you’re wrong another person is
then they’re going to want to defend
themself instead of listening to you
they’re going to say no you’re wrong and
then it’s like you both it just gets to
be this this huge barrier in between you
a big roadblock goes on so I think we
just go ahead oh I was just going to say
I think the next question especially for
English learners is that’s a really high
skill language thing to be able to
listen but also use the correct words to
not show judgment on their their opinion
so if someone told me something that I
completely don’t agree with if I want to
be an open minded global thinker I have
to carefully choose my words so that I
don’t directly judge what they’re saying
and I think that’s something that maybe
for English learners they might find
difficult at the beginning in English
trying to be able to use the right words
to
be empathetic and to be open-minded so
I’m just wondering from your for your
advice what kind of sentences or what
kind of language if I told you something
that you just thought was absolutely not
your opinion something crazy how would
you react to that in a empathetic way or
in an open-minded way I can see where
you’re coming from Vanessa but or that’s
that’s interesting but but you can
identify it summarize their points of
view right and then and then um have
your point of view so that’s always good
too because like you kind of really
state what they’re saying which that
means that like you’ve really understood
it it means you were actually listening
and then they might actually hear the
interpretation you got they might say oh
no that’s not actually what I meant so
you’re not actually starting a fight
you’re helping them see like maybe they
didn’t communicate what they were trying
to say correctly yeah I think that works
really well oh go ahead sorry the
fingers of delay I was gonna stay
correct me if I’m wrong but I was wrong
they’re disruptive that’s a great one
correct me if I’m wrong I think that
works really well also with just general
relationships or I’ve used that a lot
with kids if a kid is trying to like
kids that I baby said if they’re trying
to do something crazy like oh I wanna I
don’t know go outside and run around
without any clothes on and it’s the
middle of winter if I just like you said
repeat back what they said oh you want
to run outside without any clothes in
the winter how will you feel then you’re
kind of opening the door for them to
think about it and even with you know my
husband if I do that kind of thing that
active listening where you’re repeating
back it shows yes I understood exactly
what you wanted or no I didn’t
understand so can you explain it in a
different way that’s a really good way
to kind of open the door for better
communication so to address the elephant
in the room what is what’s the elephant
in the room the elephant
is the big idea that nobody wants to
mention but that everybody’s thinking
about it’s kind of like something
uncomfortable right yeah so everybody’s
always asking us like what the heck or
WTF what then what the heck happened
what is wrong with you American what
happened to America right so the Nessa
do you want to lead on this one oh man
okay just go right in so the question is
why did Donald Trump win and that’s the
elephant in the room I guess we’re
talking about here and no matter what I
think politically I think it’s a lot
more complex than the media tries to
portray it
so the typical narrative of why Donald
Trump won I think a lot of people in the
US and the reason why there’s a lot of
protests is because a lot of Americans
are racist or sexist or you know want to
be this certain kind of person and not
these other people who are not like me I
think that’s the stereotype of why he
won but in my opinion I think a lot of
people voted for Donald Trump
defensively so they voted against
Hillary instead of voting for Donald
Trump and that means that everyone I
think probably in every country probably
your country too that they try to find
the lesser of two evils what does that
mean well the lesser of two evils evil
means really bad something that’s
terrible so we’ve got two terrible
choices and you’re trying to find who is
a little bit less terrible and it’s not
like you’ve got a great choice but it
was a little less terrible and I think
that’s a terrible position to be in of
course I want to vote for someone who I
can be confident in and who’s going to
be a great leader but instead we’re
voting for the person who’s gonna hurt
the country the least and I think a lot
of people felt at least the friends who
I saw on my Facebook feed
those friends felt really negative and
just icky about voting because they
didn’t feel passionate about the person
they were voting for they just felt like
well the other person is a little bit
worse
so in conclusion to that idea I think
that even though Donald Trump won and
people there are of course the people
who you see rallies and people cheering
for him there are supporters but I think
that a lot of people who voted for him
just didn’t trust Hillary Clinton so
instead of loving Donald Trump they just
really didn’t like her and he’s the only
other option so it that’s kind of my
first opinion no no what do you guys
think about that first that’s a UH
you said Nicki which might be a hard
word for some people yes iki is I
wouldn’t say it’s slang but it means
gross or disgusting sometimes like one
of my friends posted on Facebook that
voting was like going to the dentist
they just felt terrible oh this is not
fun it should be some kind of like
freedom and I’m choosing my own leader
but they just felt like you are going to
the dentist something terrible that they
have to do to you know plan for the
future or whatever so I think a key is
that feeling like oh I don’t want to do
it but I have to do it yeah I wanted to
like to I don’t know just put some of
this in perspective for people who don’t
really understand the system in the u.s.
because if you’re coming from a country
for example like Brazil that’s also it’s
also a federal government so it’s kind
of similar to how it works the u.s. but
here you have obligatory voting so you
have to vote or you pay a fine if you
don’t vote so like everyone goes whether
or not they care whether or not they’re
educated about it everyone votes in the
USA does not you vote if you want to if
you if you feel if you feel motivated to
and another thing that I think is
important is that it’s because the u.s.
is federal
people come from a democracy that is a
parliament which means that you can vote
for a smaller party and your vote still
matters because you can get like a
representative in the parliament from a
small party in the US and it’s really
just although there are other candidates
it’s a two-party system so something
that happened in this election is it’s
the biggest ever vote for a third party
but it was still only something like 5
percent so um that’s all so it’s I think
that’s something very unfortunately us
we really only have like two choices and
like like Vanessa was saying a lot of
people was like okay well I’m choosing
the lesser of two evils or because
there’s not a mandatory vote a lot of
people was just like I don’t care
they’re both awful I’m not going to vote
I just prefer not to vote so and I knew
a lot of people who were like this is
that I don’t really care either way so I
mean we’re screwed either way
and so they they did not vote which you
know it’s a shame it’s kind of like the
whole purpose of democracy is like let’s
go and choose but when there’s two
terrible choices that’s what’s going to
happen so it’s not necessarily that a
humongous population the u.s. supports
Donald Trump or that they really didn’t
support Hillary it was really that a lot
of people just did not care the people
who care the most were probably Trump
supporters and so that could be another
explanation for why he might have won I
have a big question for you do you mind
if I ask you something really big how
why do you think that we ended up with
two people who a lot of people in the
u.s. just feel are icky that instead of
having someone like a lot of people felt
really passionate about Obama and they
wanted to vote for him but it seems like
a lot of people really didn’t like
either candidate so how do you think we
ended up with these two people let’s
talk about Bernie Sanders right Bernie
Sanders was he was the the Democratic
candidate for Hillary Clinton before so
they only they could only pick one
candidate and the Democratic Party
actually really wanted him
to run against Trump even though if
Bernie was just amazingly famous and
everybody loved him and he had a really
great campaign and he’s very passionate
and a lot of people are saying now I
told you so I told you so to the
Democratic Party because they pushed him
out mmm so you think that maybe because
they pushed out Bernie that Bernie
supporters didn’t vote for Hillary or
they just didn’t feel passionate about
her because she pushed out the guy that
they like I think that definitely
contributed to it but I just think he it
just represents how bad the system is in
general um I and I I just don’t think
she is nearly as charismatic as Bernie
is if Bernie was like this is hyper
liberal people called him a socialist
candidate and some people that I heard
that I respect some thinkers believed
that they were really pushing for
Hillary because they thought that
Hillary would beat Trump and this other
guy couldn’t beat Trump because he’s too
liberal for the United States and that’s
an interesting point about the two-party
system because if we had more parties
that were given more voice or more
airtime like they are allowed to have a
voice in the debates or something like
this if we had that option maybe Bernie
could have been or even other
Republicans instead of Trump or other
third party candidates could have been
on the ballot on the voting choices
instead of just two candidates that why
did he have to completely leave why
couldn’t Bernie still have been there I
think that that might be a flaw in the
system that people who wanted to vote
for Bernie should have still should have
been given the opportunity to still do
that if they wanted to but the system is
rigged I don’t think that they were very
big what is Rickman rig Danes it’s like
it’s it’s been set up to be in the
advantage of a certain person’s
interests or certain group of people a
certain group of people so it’s like
Bernie Bernie was just a really
passionate great candidate
that I think the rest of the world would
have left and but the rest of the world
like the world as a whole or the rest of
the world like the rest of Americans
well the the world as a whole okay
I refer to I don’t think America is the
world but it sounds like something -
that’s like I’ve had pointed out by my
friends from from Europe is that in the
u.s. like we think of someone like
Bernie Sanders as being socialists or a
lot of people called him like us you
know
socialist which also in the US I think a
lot of people compare that with being
like communists and actually like
compared to most countries in Europe in
the u.s. like even our Democratic Party
which is supposed to be our liberal
party for them would be a conservative
party so it’s kind of like interesting
to look at it is also a very
conservative country politically yeah
I’m curious do you think that Bernie
Sanders could have beaten Donald Trump
in another an alternate reality if he
had been the only other candidate with
Donald Trump what do you think in your
near opinion I think that one of the
problems that Hillary had what we were
talking about before is that she was not
able to rally up to get support from for
example minorities and from young people
which I think that’s why one of the
reasons that Obama was able to win he
got all these people who normally would
not vote like you know generally people
who were from minorities and who are
young they don’t vote anyway because
they don’t feel like they’re like their
votes going to matter like it’s they’re
going to be represented but Obama all
the sudden came in and he felt like a
like a hero for the minorities for the
young people he really liked campaigned
on social media he really he went to
universities and spoke like actually
Michelle Obama came to my University and
I got to see her like right right in
front of my where I was living speak so
they did a wonderful job of that Hillary
did not she tried but she’s not exactly
someone who sticks out is like a hero
for for the young people for the
minorities for the normal common man so
I think Bernie maybe he could have he
could have been able to do that
I think young people really loved him I
think that he could have he was Jewish
as well of which is a minority he would
have been if he could have gotten
elected he would have been the first
Jewish president um and so I think he he
definitely would have been much more of
an opposing force for Hillary I think
another thing like what you mentioned
about Bernie being he he was interesting
to the minorities or to demographics
that don’t usually get spoken to I think
something about this election is that it
was quite an outsider election like
Donald Trump is not a politician he’s
he’s a billionaire but he’s technically
an outsider in the political sphere he
doesn’t have all of the political
connections that someone like Hillary
Clinton has so if Donald Trump is an
outsider kind of and Bernie Sanders is
kind of an outsider he’s talking to the
people who aren’t just typical
politicians that if those two people are
who the majority or a lot of Americans
can get passionate about right now and
then we’ve got Hillary Clinton who is
very typical politician it seems like
this just wasn’t her time to win because
it was a time when people wanted an
outsider they wanted something different
who’s not a typical politician and she
doesn’t really fit that bill I think
does that mean fit that bill well I
don’t really know where this expression
originated but uh might was my sentence
I said that Hillary Clinton doesn’t fit
that bill so she doesn’t fit that type
of person she’s not an outsider she’s a
political insider we could say she knows
all about the workings of the political
system and she’s connected to everyone
so she fits that type of person she fits
that bill
what do you explain that expression any
differently I’m not sure exactly if I
said that well I think that’s a great
explanation listen in this case
I think to like time talking about that
- I think Trump on the other hand he was
he fit the bill perfectly for that
people who voted for him because he was
so different he’s not typical politician
he was fighting for the working man who
you know in that Kannamma crisis lost
his job or whatever lost a lot of things
there’s actually the other day we were
watching an interesting an interesting
talk from mom the guy’s name again you
know - Catherine Michael more Italian
DiCaprio Michael more talking he
predicted like months before the
election even though he didn’t support
Donald Trump he predicted that Donald
Trump would win because he got people so
riled up which what does proud of me
proud I mean it’s like emotionally
agitated yeah he was able to like really
get the masses on the right side really
riled up so you know if you’re able to
do that even if it’s just one side
they’re going to be the people who go
out and fight for you know their choice
and go out and vote Hillary was kind of
white bread she was nothing nothing new
like vanessa was saying another another
politician who’s taking money from
lobbyists what are lobbyists lobbyists
are people who ask the government to
give them favors they give politicians
lots of money and say hey can you make a
law that says I can grow as much corn as
I want without any taxes if I give you
three million dollars and they are in
favors yeah they’re the ones from the
corporations that are basically going
out and like talking to the politicians
to create those those really corrupt
relationships yeah I know okay
so this is it’s a great conversation we
have explained a lot to be honest with
you a lot of the things we’re talking
about today about understanding the
other side maybe I haven’t done the best
job of understanding Trump supporters
I’ve I didn’t vote actually being in
Brazil but um yeah so I probably would
have voted for Hillary but I did not do
the best job of actually understanding
the other perspective and so it’s really
hard for me baby to come in there and
I have a complete perspective of the
Trump side of things so but let me ask
you guys this question how can can we
and helping the people out there
listening to this the English learners
have maybe more global communicators
better global communicators what are
some tips the end of this I think it
could be useful to search for something
that is different from your own opinion
and there’s it talking about politics
one recommendation is there is a
Facebook page called humans of New York
and if you’re curious about why in the
world did Donald Trump win the Facebook
page the photographer it’s a photography
page he interviews people and takes
their picture he’s going to an area in
Michigan that has I think always voted
Democrat and then this election they
voted Republican so he’s gonna go there
and not really ask them political
questions but just ask them questions
about life see what kind of people they
are so he’s putting a face to the idea
so that we can maybe become less
stereotypical about thinking Donald
Trump supporters are like this Hillary
supporters are like this you can see who
the real people are so if you don’t
agree with the vote outcome this could
be a good way to kind of see real people
and see that hey we’re all humans
we’re just have our different
perspectives about what is the best
thing for the future in this article
that we all read that um that I really
recommend you read if you haven’t yet
it’s in the comments I mean in the
information box below but they talked
about something called a contact
hypothesis and this is to really reduce
your prejudice reduce expand your
perspective through extended contact
contact the people that I have different
backgrounds people that think
differently than you people that have
different opinions different cultures so
the more that you do that the more that
you just like this humans of New York
page is doing you systematically expand
your perspective
you’re able to look at the world
different perspectives from different on
um different point of view
so maybe contacting people who are from
different cultures finding a speaking
partner or talking on skype with someone
who’s different or listening even if
it’s just in the YouTube comments if
someone says something you don’t agree
with instead of just judging immediately
and saying your opinion to them but
asking them some questions oh why do you
think that what would happen if that was
a reality you’re asking some open
questions instead of just immediately
judging like you said having contact
with people who are of different
mindsets because we often put ourselves
in a bubble instead of reaching people
who are different from ourselves because
like the quote I mentioned earlier it
makes us feel healthy or it makes us
feel normal when we surround ourselves
by people who are similar to ourselves
so it’s not easy to reach and contact
people who are different but like you’re
mentioning it helps to reduce prejudice
when we contact people who are different
so kind of necessary for unifying the
world really for being global
communicators I think at how it can help
you to grow a lot to as a person it’s
like the there’s the quote I think it’s
Jim Rohn that said you are the five
people you spend the most time with and
you know although this is kind of like
in a business setting to surround
yourself by people who are maybe a level
ahead or like you know at the level
where you would like to be from a
business point of view I think this also
works in this setting to you know
surround yourself by people who force
you to grow and like you know if you
surround yourself by people who have
different points of views than you
you’re going to be forced to like
understand many different ways of
looking at the world yeah I’m curious
how do you guys feel whenever somebody
questions what you think so if you said
um like you mentioned earlier if I had
voted I would have voted maybe for
Hillary maybe for Bernie just one of
those choices if someone said oh why
would you do that
how would you instinctively feel about
that or how would you react to that kind
of question when your judgment is on the
line
someone is questioning your ideas how
would you feel about that it depends -
right if they’re saying like oh why do
you think that or if they’re saying why
do you think that you know if they’re if
they’re coming from like a judgmental or
like an understanding point of view but
I think I think just even when it’s
you’re communicating your ideas you can
do it with such a way that you’re like
open to whatever they’re going to
respond to that so you know trying to
say it in a non aggressive sort of
communicative way sure like what we’re
talking about that nonviolent
communication or active listening
actually trying to repeat back what the
other person said so that when we do
have contact with people who are
different than ourselves we can actually
benefit from that instead of just
clashing and fighting or just feeling
even stronger about our own opinions
instead of opening our minds though
those are good ideas and it’s like a
basic human right you know like freedom
to opinion freedom of speech so it’s
basically like look at this other person
is entitled to his or her opinions does
not mean I have to agree with them but I
can listen I can try to understand them
and I can respectfully disagree another
thing we can do
you know besides engaging with people
who are different than us and really
trying to understand their perspectives
research the things that they believe we
can also examine on the information
sources that we believe in and the
information sources that we share
because a lot of times you see posts on
Facebook that are clickbait let’s click
it like bait is basically something that
you put on a fishing hook to go fishing
right so the fish is attracted to it it
attracts the fish for you to capture it
so clickbait is a really fancy beautiful
title of an article that people click on
ten ways my Donald Trump will ruin the
world
it sort of confirms what we believe and
so people gets people really emotional
and engaged in Facebook doesn’t
necessarily represent
like qualified content so it’s really
good for us to question the information
we’re consuming the information that we
are sharing too because if you share
information that’s not the best quality
then you’re spreading you’re spreading
those lies stick yeah I think something
valuable in order to know if the
material you’re reading is biased like
what we talked about before what is the
what’s the reason why the author is
writing that do they have some kind of
desire to get you to think something for
a specific reason so a way we can find
out if an article or a journalist or
news broadcaster is biased is if they
use sources so this is something I often
look for when I read a news article when
they say a percent like 50 percent of
Hillary supporters say this or think
this or if they say last week Donald
Trump said that he wants to do this well
if there is especially on the computer
on the Internet so easy to have an
annotation to say click here so that you
can see the original source and you can
really see did Donald Trump say that did
Hillary supporters really say that you
can follow those but a lot of articles
don’t use that kind of content they
don’t really try to support their own
opinions with facts so be sure to look
for some kind of facts in the articles
instead of just saying them look for
other sources I think that’s a valuable
thing to do definitely especially is
like even sometimes they do share like
the video or whatever but maybe it’s
taken out of context so it makes it it
sheds a the wrong kind of light on it
shows the light yeah so shed light is to
like provide information so it kind of
like gives you an idea that Oh Trump
said this and they show you like a video
of Trump saying things such and such
offends
thing but then maybe if you went and saw
the original video maybe not it would
actually provide context you’d be like
oh okay it makes sense that he said that
probably no the trunk trunk
unpredictable he says oh he says a lot
of really bad things yeah I think it’s
also to keep in mind to why someone
might say something so even say even for
my own family if if someone says
something kind of hurtful to me because
I know them intimately I know their
background I know like if they had a bad
day that day I can sympathize or I can
be a little gentler about accepting
their harsh words so thinking about
what’s their motivation for saying that
thing even in relationships around us or
what’s Hillary or Donald Trump’s
motivation for saying certain things is
it just to win the election is it
actually because they believe that in
trying to dig down and find the original
motivation for why somebody said that
even just in relationships around us not
just politics that’s an excellent point
and it reminds me of one thing I’m going
to say I’m not sure how politically
correct it is but um just this idea of
Donald Trump is a businessman and if you
look at his alleged from this
communication he uses a lot of like
repetition he’s kind of constantly
repeted repeating a lot of the same
words the same phrases simple
communication and really really poking
at the emotions of people in our some
people mean poking if you’re watching
the YouTube video could see me poking
even means to to press your finger on on
something so these are like a sharp body
sometimes it’s even with like a sharp
object kind of annoying something he’s
adjusting the emotions of the people
right and so he’s had red horses
actually verified sources that say that
he’s been trained in and I find one of
his articles posted in the show notes
make sure it’s verified think he’s
actually been trained in a hypnosis and
so in some sense you might be hypnotized
using techniques of hypnosis in its
marketing and I think those are all
things to that when you are
knowledgeable about it or when you’re
aware of it even if you don’t end up
changing your mind about the final
outcome you still can see things a
little clearer so you can know why he
said certain things or why why people
even for Bernie Sanders why people
really liked Bernie Sanders or why
people are doing things when you know
their background I mean Donald Trump
wrote the book the art of the deal he
knows about how to get people to do what
he wants so it’s not that that is a lack
of knowledge on his part but certainly
it’s completely different tactic than
what other politicians have used before
so hmm
very different what’s a tactic a tactic
is like your strategy his strategy for
getting people to vote for him is it
seems similar but at the same time it’s
not like a lot of politicians use crazy
language or they try to make the voters
feel fear oh I have to vote for this
person because if I don’t the world will
explode terrible things will happen so
they they use fear but I think for
Donald Trump something his unique tactic
was for better or for worse was saying a
lot of unpredictable things but being
very bold about it so not saying things
that were only politically correct and I
think a lot of people in America wanted
somebody who’s not just gonna say the
perfect Republican or democratic things
even though he does say a lot of crazy
things we’ll see we’ll see what he
actually does yeah I think just like to
something something that bother
me slightly about that message from from
trumpet and I think this is interesting
on a global scale not to not to like
push any opinions that I have but just
the the campaign the make America great
again and that whole thing that like a
lot of people feel like America is not a
great country which I think if you
actually spend time outside of America
and you see if it’s how the world is the
u.s. is a pretty great country already
in its current state so um so it’s just
something I think that that is important
to put out there it’s kind of like how
part of having a gold perspective is
realizing like you know things here are
pretty good or just putting it into a
global global point of view of like
where where you are at and being
grateful yeah that’s a really great
expression to to put things in
perspective when you experience other
cultures or recently I read three books
a century trilogy about the last 100
years in the US and not just in the US
but in the world about the first one was
world war 1 then world war 2 than the
60s through 80’s and this has just
changed my perspective so much about our
current state of life maybe there’s
things I complain about but when I put
that in perspective and think about the
last 100 years
wow I’m talking to you on skype right
now this is incredible this is new
technology I should be grateful for so
putting things in perspective is really
important too for just connecting and
being satisfied too
oh yeah well I hope we’ve been able to
come on here and give you guys some
perspective today it’s been really great
sharing this this microphone with you
Vanessa and you do Ethan yeah thanks a
lot for coming today
Nessa thank you so much for having me I
hope this was beneficial to people for
learning English and just the world
developing and thinking about the world
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