NoCrime Wrongful Convictions

Transcriber: Anna Sobota
Reviewer: Sebastian Betti

Imagine you’re 18 years old.

You’re a single mother
and it’s really hard.

But you´re doing OK.

And you adore your baby boy.

And then, one day,
the unthinkable happens.

Your baby stops breathing.

You do everything you can:

you do CPR and then,
you take your baby to the hospital

where medical personnel do
everything they can to revive him.

But nothing works.

And your baby dies.

Imagine the unspeakable grief,
the choking sorrow.

And then, imagine,
instead of being treated

as the grieving mother you are

the police come
and they bring you to the precinct.

They take you
into an interrogation room.

They question you
and they scream at you.

And they tell you
that your baby died of internal injuries.

[They accuse you of causing]
internal injuries to your baby.

You have no idea
what they’re talking about.

You’re frightened.

You’re scared.

You’re grieving.

You’re alone.

You don’t have a lawyer.

You don’t have a parent present.

And no matter what you say,

the police tell you
that you caused your baby’s death.

Eventually, sick of the entire ordeal,

you sign a statement
because you think it’s the only way

you can get out
of that interrogation room.

And when you get out of the room,
you tell everyone,

“I had nothing to do with this”.

But no one listens.

And you are charged with murder
for your baby’s death.

Not only are you charged with murder,

but you are prosecuted, convicted
and sentenced to die.

Imagine that.

You don’t even get to go
to your baby’s funeral.

Well, that’s what happened
to Sabrina Butler.

She became the only woman
on Mississippi’s death row,

where she sat for five long years,
until she was eventually exonerated.

Because it turns out
that those internal injuries

were caused by Miss Butler
when she tried to do CPR,

and by her neighbors efforts
to help the baby,

and by the medical personnel
at that hospital.

The baby’s death was no murder.

The baby died of
an undiagnosed medical illness.

Miss Butler had been convicted of
a crime that never happened.

Now, how many of you have heard
about wrongful convictions?

And the popular narrative of
a wrongful conviction

is that of an innocent person
who’s convicted of a crime

that was committed by someone else.

But what if I told you

that over one-third of all exonerations

involve innocent people wrongly
convicted of crimes that never happened?

It is one-third.

Now, I’ve been thinking about
the criminal legal system

for over 30 years.

I was a public defender
in New York City for 10 years

where I saw firsthand
just how rigged the system really is

against poor people
and against people of color.

And when I joined
the academic field,

I knew that I would spent
the rest of my career

thinking about, writing and researching
about the criminal legal system

and about wrongful convictions.

And I have to tell you

that there is something
profoundly disturbing about the idea

that people are wrongly convicted
for crimes that just didn’t happen,

because it causes so much harm
for nothing at all.

And that’s what I want
to talk with you about today.

Our criminal legal system
is deeply broken.

And that’s a huge topic.

If you know me,

I could keep you here all afternoon,
but I won’t.

So I just want to talk about a couple of
small aspects in our criminal legal system

that, if we focused on,

might make a big difference
in terms of no crime wrongful convictions.

And I want to start with the idea
of official misconduct.

There is a huge national conversation
happening right now around policing

and that’s an important conversation.

And I bet all of us here
can think of a circumstance

where you’ve heard a story about
a police officer or a police precinct

that is engaged
in such widespread corruption,

outrageous behavior
where cops became robbers with badges

and innocent people suffered,

whether it’s in Brooklyn, Los Angeles,
Dallas or Camden, New Jersey.

We all have heard the stories.

But what I don’t think we’ve spent enough
time really thinking about

is that the very way police
do their policing,

they can cause no crime
wrongful convictions to occur.

Imagine that every time you step out
of your house,

you are stopped.

Not because of anything you’ve done,

but because you’re poor,
or because you live in a poor community,

or because of your skin color.

Well, when I worked in the South Bronx,

which is one of the poorest urban
communities of color in the entire nation,

the police were engaged in what was called
Broken Windows Policing.

The idea was
that they would go into poor communities

to identify broken windows;
“quality of life” offenses;

and to arrest people,

and that was somehow
going to make the community safer.

So what the police would do is
they’d routinely go

into these high-rise buildings,
these low-income housing projects,

and they would basically arrest
everybody in the lobby.

And if you’re visiting
a friend or a relative,

or if you live in the building,
you’re not trespassing

but these folks
would get arrested anyway.

They would be brought to the precinct,

they’d be booked,
they’d be dragged to the courthouse

and then,
because they were often poor as well,

they’d be assigned
a public defender, me.

I would look at the charges
and I would say,

“Oh, please come back to court.

This is not trespass.
Let’s fight this case.

This is ridiculous.”

Now what would you do?

I bet most of you were thinking,
“well, I’d fight that charge,

I’m not going to plead guilty
to something I didn’t do.”

But my clients didn’t have that luxury.

They couldn’t miss a day of work
and risk losing their jobs.

They had childcare issues
or they had transportation issues,

and they needed the case to end.

And so they pled guilty.

Can you imagine a legal system
where it makes more sense

for innocent people to plead guilty
to crimes they didn’t commit;

crimes that didn’t even happen;
rather than fight for justice

because justice cost too much
in every way that matters?

And maybe some of you are thinking,

whatever, it’s just trespass,
it’s just a misdemeanor.

But misdemeanors matter,
they have tremendous consequences.

One man pled guilty to a misdemeanor
and he lost his housing.

Another man pled guilty to a misdemeanor
and he lost his job.

And poor people,
get saddled with fines and fees,

will never be able to afford to pay;

enmeshing them in
the criminal justice system for years

not because of anything they did,
but because they’re too poor to fight.

But let’s not just focus on the police.

I want to turn our attention
to prosecutors.

I don’t think we talk about
prosecutors near enough.

Prosecutors have a lofty title,
they are called Ministers of Justice.

They represent the people;
that’s you and me.

And yet prosecutors routinely
get caught up in a culture

where winning means getting convictions,
not doing justice.

Some prosecutor offices literally
keep a scoreboard like a batting average

about how many convictions they get.

And some prosecutors get so caught up
in their own invincibility

that they forget that an arrest
doesn’t mean you’re guilty.

They assume anyone who’s been brought
into court must have done something,

so they will do whatever it takes.

The ends justify the means.

And so prosecutors will routinely hide
evidence they’re required to turn over,

rubber stamp police arrests
even when there’s no evidence,

lie to defense lawyers,
hide issues from the court

and then,
act like nothing ever happened.

And police and prosecutors do this

because they know
they won’t be held accountable.

There’s a complete lack of accountability.

Now, police have something called
qualified immunity.

How many of you have heard of that?

I love asking this question,

because today so many people
have heard about qualified immunity.

It’s a really high legal standard
and it makes it incredibly hard

to hold police civilly accountable
for their wrongdoing.

But I bet what none of you know,

is that prosecutors have
an absolute immunity

from anything that they’ve done
in their role as prosecutor.

They are absolutely shielded from
intentional and deliberate misconduct,

even if it costs someone
decades of their lives.

Now, the Supreme Court has said,
absolute immunity is fine for prosecutors

because they can be held responsible
by their bar associations.

And that’s true.

But it never happens.

The Innocence Project
and some of its partners did a study.

They looked at five states
over a five-year period,

and they focused in on cases
where the judge actually said,

“Oh, this prosecutor did something wrong”.

They found 660 cases where the court made
that somewhat extraordinary statement.

Out of those 660 cases,
only one involved a prosecutor

who received any kind of sanction
by a bar association at all.

Now, the other way a prosecutor
can be held responsible

is through a criminal prosecution.

Now, in the event

that a prosecutor is going to be
prosecuted by a prosecutor,

things rarely happen.

I want to give you an example,
it’s not a no crime wrongful conviction,

but these cases are so rare
and I think you’ll get the idea.

There was a prosecutor
named Ken Anderson who charged

a man named Michael Morton
with the murder of his wife.

Mr. Morton denied having
anything to do with it.

He was innocent.

He just wanted to get out of jail to
tend to his two-year-old baby,

who had lost a mother and now,
was going to lose a father to jail.

And he was nonetheless charged
by prosecutor Anderson.

They went to trial,

and while Mr. Morton was striving
to prove his innocence,

prosecutor Anderson
had evidence in his file

that showed Mr. Morton was innocent,

but he never turned it over.

Mr. Morton was convicted
and spent the next 25 years in prison.

And while he was in prison,

prosecutor Anderson rose
to become judge Anderson.

Well, Mr. Morton
was eventually exonerated.

DNA showed that he absolutely
had nothing to do with the crime.

And somewhat surprisingly
Anderson was prosecuted.

And you know what?
He was found guilty.

And you know what his sentence was?

Ten days in jail, community service
and a loss of his law license.

And you know how many days
prosecutor Anderson spent in jail?

Five.

He was released for good behavior.

We clearly need better systems
of accountability.

And accountability doesn’t just need
to turn on ideas of immunity.

I mean, we, the civilian population,
can play a role.

We can have community oversight.

We can push for civilian complaint
review boards and independent commissions

that can examine allegations
of official misconduct.

Because the truth is,

we can’t look to the police
to police themselves,

and we can’t look to the prosecutors
to prosecute themselves.

I want to talk about
one more thing briefly.

It is about funding
for defense lawyers.

Because the truth is,
poor people don’t get the same justice

that people with money have.
They just don’t.

And one way we see this most clearly
is in the assignment of counsel.

Sometimes public defenders,

people who represent the poor,
are so overworked

and so under-resourced
that it´s representation in name only.

In Louisiana,

some public defenders are so overwhelmed

that they have seven minutes
to meet a client

and resolve a misdemeanor case.

Seven minutes, from start to finish.

That’s shorter than this talk.

There’s no discussion
about an investigation.

There’s no discussion
about any possible defenses.

There’s barely time
to get through introductions.

And yet that passes as justice.

Can we imagine a world
where we actually dedicate funds

to defense lawyers
at the same level as prosecutors?

Where defense lawyers have access
to investigators and experts?

Because the truth is,

no innocent person should ever
be found guilty

simply because they’re too poor
to mount a defense.

Now, I’ve hit you with a lot of stuff,

and I never like to leave
without some action items.

So a few things you can do:

One, support projects

that advocate for the rights
of the wrongly convicted

or that advocate for the rights
of the poor

who are charged with criminal offenses.

But there’s even
a more simple thing you can do.

And that’s vote.

Vote with an eye to people

who have a progressive criminal
justice reform agenda.

Because it matters.

In New Mexico and Colorado,

they’ve elected legislators
who have passed laws

that change state qualified immunity
standards for police.

They make it easier to now sue the police
for their wrongdoing.

If you live in a jurisdiction
where you elect prosecutors,

elect progressive prosecutors,
like they’ve done in San Francisco,

or Travis County, Texas, or Philadelphia.

Because those prosecutors
are changing justice on the ground.

They know that an arrest
because of a Broken Windows Policy

doesn’t mean that a poor person
has done something wrong.

They don’t equate doing justice
with getting convictions.

Because here’s the thing,

no crime wrongful convictions
are the canary in the coal mine.

They are the absolute worst idea about
what our criminal legal system does.

And we need to do better.

Sabrina Butler should never have been
charged with murdering her child,

let alone convicted
and sentenced to die.

You ever hear the expression,
“where there’s smoke, there must be fire”?

Well, that’s just wrong.

Sometimes, there’s really just smoke.

And that’s the truth and the tragedy
of no crime wrongful convictions.

We spend so much time,
so much money,

so much energy
and human lives chasing smoke,

prosecuting and convicting
and incarcerating people

for crimes that never happened.

We can and we must do better.

Thank you.