Brenda Romero Gaming for understanding

Translator: Joseph Geni
Reviewer: Morton Bast

When we think of games,
there’s all kinds of things.

Maybe you’re ticked off, or maybe,
you’re looking forward to a new game.

You’ve been up too late playing a game.

All these things happen to me.

But when we think about games,

a lot of times we think
about stuff like this:

first-person shooters, or the big,
what we would call AAA games,

or maybe you’re a Facebook game player.

This is one my partner and I worked on.

Maybe you play Facebook games,
and that’s what we’re making right now.

This is a lighter form of game.

Maybe you think about
the tragically boring board games

that hold us hostage
in Thanksgiving situations.

This would be one of the tragically boring
board games that you can figure out.

Or maybe you’re in your living room,

playing with the Wii with the kids,

and there’s this whole range of games,
and that’s very much what I think about.

I make my living from games,
I’ve been lucky enough to do this

since I was 15, which also qualifies
as I’ve never really had a real job.

But we think about games as fun,
and that’s completely reasonable,

but let’s just think about this.

So this one here,
this is the 1980 Olympics.

Now I don’t know where you guys were,

but I was in my living room.

It was practically a religious event.

And this is when the Americans
beat the Russians,

and this was –
yes, it was technically a game.

Hockey is a game.

But really, was this a game?

I mean, people cried.

I’ve never seen my mother cry
like that at the end of Monopoly.

(Laughter)

And so this was an amazing experience.

Or, if anybody here is from Boston –

So when the Boston Red Sox
won the World Series

after I believe, 351 years –

(Laughter)

when they won the World Series,
it was amazing.

I happened to be living
in Springfield at the time,

and the best part of it was,

you would close the women’s door
in the bathroom,

and I remember seeing “Go Sox,”
and I thought, really?

Or the houses, you’d come out,
because every game,

well, I think almost every game,
went into overtime, right?

So we’d be outside, and all the other
lights are on in the whole block.

And kids – the attendance
was down in school,

kids weren’t going to school,
but it’s OK, it’s the Red Sox, right?

I mean, there’s education,
and then there’s the Red Sox,

and we know where they’re stacked.

So this was an amazing experience,

and again, yes, it was a game,
but they didn’t write newspaper articles,

people didn’t say, “You know, really,
I can die now, because the Red Sox won.”

And many people did.

So games, it means something more to us.

It absolutely means something more.

So now, this is an abrupt transition here.

There was three years where
I actually did have a real job, sort of.

I was the head of a college
department teaching games,

so, again, it was sort of a real job,

and now I got to talk about making them
as opposed to making them.

Part of the job of it,
when you’re a chair of a department,

is to eat, and I did that very well –

and so I’m out at a dinner
with this guy called Zig Jackson.

So this is Zig in this photograph,
this is also one of Zig’s photographs.

He’s a photographer.

And he goes all around the country
taking pictures of himself,

and you can see here he’s got
Zig’s Indian Reservation.

And this particular shot –

this is one of the more traditional shots.

This is a rain dancer.

And this is one of my favorite shots here.

So you can look at this, and maybe
you’ve even seen things like this.

This is an expression of culture, right?

And this is actually
from his Degradation series.

And what was most fascinating
to me about this series

is just, look at that little boy there,
can you imagine?

We can see that’s
a traditional Native American.

Now I just want to change that guy’s race.

Just imagine if that’s a black guy.

So, “Honey, come here, let’s get you
a picture with the black guy.” Right?

Like, seriously, nobody would do this.

It baffles the mind.

And so Zig, being Indian,
likewise it baffles his mind.

His favorite photograph –

my favorite photograph of his,
which I don’t have in here –

is Indian taking picture of white people
taking pictures of Indians.

(Laughter)

So I happen to be at dinner
with this photographer,

and he was talking
with another photographer

about a shooting that had occurred,

and it was on an Indian Reservation.

He’d taken his camera up there
to photograph it,

but when he got there,
he discovered he couldn’t do it.

He just couldn’t capture the picture.

And so they were talking back and forth
about this question.

Do you take the picture or not?

And that was fascinating
to me as a game designer,

because it never occurs to me,

should I make the game
about this difficult topic or not?

Because we just make things that are fun

or will make you feel fear,
that visceral excitement.

But every other medium does it.

So this is my kid.

This is Maezza, and when she was
seven years old,

she came home from school one day,

and like I do every single day,
I asked her, “What did you do today?”

So she said, “We talked
about the Middle Passage.”

Now, this was a big moment.
Maezza’s dad is black,

and I knew this day was coming.

I wasn’t expecting it at seven,
I don’t know why, but I wasn’t.

Anyways, so I asked her,
“How do you feel about that?”

So she proceeded to tell me,

and so any of you who are parents
will recognize the bingo buzzwords here.

“The ships start in England,
they come down from England,

they go to Africa,
they go across the ocean –

that’s the Middle Passage part –

they come to America, where
the slaves are sold,” she’s telling me.

But Abraham Lincoln was elected president,

and then he passed
the Emancipation Proclamation,

and now they’re free.

Pause for about 10 seconds.

“Can I play a game, Mommy?”

And I thought, that’s it?
And so, you know,

this is the Middle Passage,
this is an incredibly significant event,

and she’s treating it like, basically
some black people went on a cruise,

this is more or less how it sounds to her.

(Laughter)

And so, to me,
I wanted more value in this,

so when she asked
if she could play a game, I said, “Yes.”

(Laughter)

And so I happened to have
all of these little pieces.

I’m a game designer, so I have
this stuff sitting around my house.

I said, “Yeah, you can play a game,”
and I give her a bunch of these,

and I tell her to paint them
in different families.

These are pictures of Maezza
when she was –

God, it still chokes me up seeing these.

So she’s painting her little families.

So then I grab a bunch of them
and I put them on a boat.

This was the boat,
it was made quickly, obviously.

And so the basic gist of it is,
I grabbed a bunch of families,

and she’s like, “Mommy,
but you forgot the pink baby

and you forgot the blue daddy

and you forgot all these other things.”

And she says, “They want to go.”

And I said, “Honey,
no, they don’t want to go.

This is the Middle Passage, Nobody wants
to go on the Middle Passage.”

So she gave me a look that only a daughter
of a game designer would give a mother,

and as we’re going across the ocean,
following these rules,

she realizes that she’s rolling
pretty high,

and she says to me,
“We’re not going to make it.”

And she realizes,
we don’t have enough food,

and so she asks what to do,

and I say – remember, she’s seven –

“We can either put
some people in the water

or we can hope that they don’t get sick

and we make it to the other side.”

Just the look on her face came over –

now mind you this is after a month of –

this is Black History Month, right?

After a month, she says to me,
“Did this really happen?”

And I said, “Yes.” And so she said –

this is her brother and sister –

“If I came out of the woods,
Avalon and Donovan might be gone.”

“Yes.”

“But I’d get to see them in America.”

“No.”

“But what if I saw them?
Couldn’t we stay together?”

“So Daddy could be gone.”

“Yes.”

She was fascinated by this,
and she started to cry,

I started to cry, her father started
to cry, and now we’re all crying.

He didn’t expect to come home from work
to the Middle Passage, but there it goes.

And so, we made this game, and she got it.

She got it because she spent time
with these people.

It wasn’t abstract stuff
in a brochure or in a movie.

And so it was just an incredibly
powerful experience.

This is the game, which I’ve ended up
calling “The New World,”

because I like the phrase.

I don’t think the New World
felt too new worldly exciting

to the people who were
brought over on slave ships.

But when this happened,
I saw the whole planet; I was so excited.

I’d been making games for 20-some years,

and then I decided to do it again.

My history is Irish.

So this is a game called “Síochán Leat.”
It’s “peace be with you.”

It’s the entire history
of my family in a single game.

I made another game called “Train.”

I was making a series of six games
that covered difficult topics,

and if you’re going to cover a difficult
topic, this is one you need to cover,

and I’ll let you figure out
what that’s about on your own.

And I also made a game
about the Trail of Tears.

This is a game
with 50,000 individual pieces.

I was crazy when I decided to start it,
but I’m in the middle of it now.

It’s the same thing.

I’m hoping that I’ll teach
culture through these games.

And the one I’m working
on right now, which is –

because I’m right in the middle of it,

and these for some reason
choke me up like crazy –

is a game called
“Mexican Kitchen Workers.”

And originally, it was
a math problem, more or less.

Here’s the economics
of illegal immigration.

And the more I learned
about Mexican culture –

my partner is Mexican —
the more I learned that,

you know, for all of us,
food is a basic need,

and it is obviously with Mexicans, too,
but it’s much more than that.

It’s an expression of love.
It’s an expression of –

God, I’m totally choking up
way more than I thought.

I’ll look away from the picture.

It’s an expression of beauty,
it’s how they say they love you.

It’s how they say they care,

and you can’t hear somebody
talk about their Mexican grandmother

without saying “food”
in the first sentence.

And so to me, this beautiful culture,

this beautiful expression is something
that I want to capture through games.

And so games, for a change,
it changes how we see topics,

it changes our perceptions
about those people in topics,

and it changes ourselves.

We change as people through games,

because we’re involved, and we’re playing,

and we’re learning as we do so.

Thank you.