English Topics Misconceptions about America

Alisha: Hi, everybody! My name is Alisha.

I’m joined again in the studio by…

Michael: Michael. Hello.

Alisha: And today, we’re going to be talking
about some misconceptions about America.

So, let’s get right into it.

Let’s start with you, Michael.

What is your first misconception that you’ve
heard about America?

Michael: I’m going to have to start with
the “arrogant American stereotype.”

This, I think, maybe in the past had been
a little bit more accurate but ever since

the internet and ever since the 60s, with
the Vietnam War and the hippie movement and

everything going on then, this has really
died down a bit.

I’m proud to be an American, but I’m not one
of the stereotypical Americans that, “We’re

number one.

We’re the best.”

This really has died down.

I hear this a lot on the internet and whatnot.

Alisha: Yeah, I know what you mean.

Then the whole number one thing—at least
for me, one of the things that…

I feel like if you say that there’s a greatest
country in the world.

I think that’s a silly thing to say, that
you’re the greatest country in the world.

Not that I don’t support America or appreciate
all the things that America does for me and

for people around the world.

I feel like I’m treading in dangerous waters
right now.

There are plenty of good things about other
countries, too.

I’m going to stop here before I offend anyone.

Anyway, I’m going to go to my first one.

My first one is–maybe this is one that you’ve
got as well.

“Hamburgers are the only American food.”

This is a misconception that I have heard
a lot.

Hamburgers and variations of hamburgers.

Cheeseburgers, bacon cheeseburgers, avocado
burgers, veggie burgers, whatever.

Anything burger is not the only American food.

There are plenty of other American foods.

Even if you just stick around the fast food
ballpark for a while, there are hotdogs, there

are Philly cheesesteaks, which are delicious.

If you go to the South, there are all kinds
of interesting, like Louisianan food that

you can try on there.

You can eat crocodile, you can eat frog legs,
which, I mean, probably borrowed to some extent

from French cuisine.

There are lots of fresh fish, like salmon
from Washington, Oregon.

Where I’m from, we talked a lot about Tex-Mex
and California burrito culture.

There’s so much good stuff to try in America,
and it’s not just burgers.

American food is more than just burgers.

That drives me crazy when people say, “Oh,
you’re Americans!

You must love hamburgers, right?”

Well, they’re great, but there’s so much other
good stuff to try.

Michael: Yes, likewise just with the hamburger
thing, when you think hamburgers, you think

fast food, right?

And so, that’s the other stereotype.

Even if you want a good, authentic American
hamburger, don’t go to one of the fast food

restaurants.

That’s what they think: “Oh, you’re American.

You can’t appreciate the real good, high-quality
cheese and blah blah blah.”

If you have a really good authentic American
hamburger, you’ll be really happy.

You’ll be really happy.

It’s really good.

Alisha: Did I miss any key American foods?

I feel like I had the big ones.

Just like region-centric foods that are big.

Michael: That was the first thing I thought
of, and you got to it with Louisiana, as far

as something that people don’t usually think
about when they think about American food.

And that’s amazing food.

And I think, to take that a little bit further,
while traveling and teaching, people would

say, “Oh, your name’s not a really American
name,” because my last name is German.

But I would tell them that there is no American
name.

A truly American name would be like the Native
Americans’ from way back when.

And one of the beauties of America is that
it’s the “melting pot,” as you always

hear.

And then it’s a lot of different cultures,
so as you were saying about Louisiana food,

it’s probably borrowed from French, and American
food isn’t just hamburgers.

There’s a whole wide array, and as we talked
about before, the Mexican food.

So, absolutely, there’s a big variety, and
it’s not just one thing.

Alisha: Yeah, explore.

Explore American cuisine.

There’s a lot of it to explore.

Alright. What’s your next misconception?

Michael: Next misconception is…

Well, this one’s a little bit specific to
where I’m from.

It’s that “everybody skis or snowboards
in Colorado.”

This is something–I think this is natural
when you meet somebody from any different

state, province, whatever, is that you think
about the tourist attractions of that place

and you say, so I meet another American, even
within America, they say, “Oh, you’re from

Colorado!

Do you ski and snowboard?”

Sometimes, just because I’m from there doesn’t
mean I’d do it, and to me, I think it’s kind

of a rough analogy, but it’d be like meeting
someone from France and be like, “Oh, do

you go to the Eiffel Tower every day?”

“Yeah, once when I was a kid.”

Same thing with America.

Just as the whole country, it’s what the Statue
of Liberty and these kinds of things you ever

get that.

Alisha: Every once in a while.

I’m from Oregon, so we have ski and snowboard
culture there, but I’m trying to think of

it.

There’s this one when I say that I was raised
in Oregon, if there’s something that I usually

get back and I don’t think I do.

I think California maybe more so.

If you say you’re from California, it might
be something like, “Oh, do you surf?

Or do you go to the beach?”

I think that it’s really easy to kind of make
an image of that state or what that state’s

people might be like and then to ask a question
about that, but I don’t think that it’s necessarily

out of malice that people say such things.

I think it’s just trying to make a connection
like, “Oh, I’m familiar to some degree with

your state,” or “I know something about
your state.

Maybe this is the way we can have a conversation
about it.”

But yeah, kind of pigeonholing people, like
trying to stereotype people based on where

they’re from and what you presume they might
like to do, I guess it could come off as a

little irritating for some.

Michael: Yeah, I don’t mind it because I know
that it’s good intentions.

They’re just trying to make a connection,
and I do the same thing that I think of all

the musicians or famous actors or actresses
from whatever country they’re from and I’ll

say that.

And they’re just trying to make conversation,
so it’s not a big deal.

But again, it’s a stereotype, and just try
to relate it and put yourself in the shoes

like, “What kind of tourist attractions
and stereotypes do I not relate?”

Alisha: Or saying, “Oh, I’ve been there
to such-and-such attraction before.

It was really nice,” that kind of…

I think it isn’t just certainly bad.

It’s just one of those things.

Next one.

Let’s see the next one that I have.

I’ve heard this now and now and then.

This one that I’ve heard is “Americans all
own guns.”

I’ve heard this.

Michael: Me too.

Alisha: Samesies.

Michael: Samesies.

Alisha: We both have this one, but this is
one that I think–maybe it’s because of action

movies, maybe it’s because of the news stories
that come out about shootings in America,

which are horribly tragic and unfortunate,
but for some reason, some people have this

image that Americans all own guns.

I don’t own a gun.

Michael: Me either.

Alisha: There’s one person, two people who
do not own guns, and I know that there are

plenty more.

There are a lot of people who do not own guns.

I mean, whether or not you support guns, maybe
that’s a different issue.

But this is one point that’s always just a
little bit confusing to me.

Maybe this comes from old western movies,
where we’re cowboys in this gun-toting, gun-loving,

shoot-them-up sort of country, but I don’t
think that it’s that.

I don’t think that that’s America.

Well, all of America.

There are parts of America.

There are some people in America who like
guns.

That’s your thing.

It’s just not mine, and it’s not some other
people’s.

Michael: I think the fact that we both have
to stop and hesitate, it is an issue.

It’s a hot topic.

It’s a second amendment right, so people are
constantly debating this.

But I tell people, I can’t think of five people
in all of my friends and family.

I can’t think of five who own a gun.

There are some people who are military something,
but for private people, that’s really not

common.

There’s only a handful of people I know that
own a gun, and they go out shooting.

It’s not a big deal, but it is a hot topic.

But I hate this, every time I hear, “Oh,
America—cowboys, guns, this kind of…”

No, I’m not a cowboy, don’t have guns.

Have you ever gone shooting though?

Alisha: My parents had—Do you know clay
pigeons?

Clay pigeon shooting?

My parents used to do that with their friends.

They would just go to a small shooting range,
and it’s just this little disc made of clay,

and it was just a sport.

It was just for sport.

They’d shoot it, they fly—what do you call
it?

Fling?

Fling, I guess.

They throw this clay pigeon in the air, and
then you’d aim and try to shoot it.

It was a sport.

And so, my parents had a couple for that,
and then I think they sold them after a while

because they just didn’t do it very often.

I fired that a couple times, and I really
didn’t like it.

It just made me feel really uncomfortable.

Michael: How old were you?

Alisha: I was probably 17, 18 or so.

Michael: About the age you would know if you
liked it or you don’t.

Alisha: I suppose, but it just made me really
uncomfortable.

I didn’t like it, but I’ve known people who
use them for hunting.

I knew somebody in high school, in college.

His dad had one, but he’d go out hunting every
year, and he’d go out and kill a deer, and

then they’d bring it home, and they’d prepare
it, and the family would have that to eat

throughout the winter.

That was just one of their family’s traditions.

But as far as a handgun, I don’t think I’ve
ever met anyone that I know of.

No, wait I did know one guy.

He was a little—I’m not going to say anything.

I’m really uncomfortable on this video.

I feel like it’s getting controversial.

Michael: Yeah, yeah.

Alisha: Let’s go to the last one because it’s
not controversial.

It’s going to be the last one.

My last one is it’ll be “quick and easy
to see the whole country.”

No, America is huge!

Compared to a lot of other countries around
the world, America is very, very large.

I’ve heard of people saying they’re going
to visit New York, and then they say, “Okay,

and then we’re going to rent a car, and we’re
going to drive to California.”

And the Americans in the room will go, “You
know how long it’s going to take you, right?

You have some concept of how far that is?”

“You know, a few hours or a couple days.”

“No!”

It’s far.

It’s like 5,000 miles across the country
so you should plan some time.

I heard about a guy recently who took like
a month to bicycle from New York to California.

It’s crazy.

He had some people giving him car rides along
the way.

But have you ever run into somebody who has
no concept of how large the country is?

Michael: All the time.

Alisha: Really?

Michael: Usually.

I mean, again we’re talking about the–you
want to make a connection.

So, usually, they just name–everyone knows
New York, Texas, California, that’s pretty

much it when you think America.

Even Americans I know, you really don’t put
it on scale of how big it is unless you look

at a picture and you place Europe on top and
you go, “Wow, this is pretty huge!”

Generally, though, I haven’t met anybody who’s
planning a trip and going.

I think when you plan a trip, they make a
little more preparations.

But yeah, same thing.

They really have no idea, no frame of reference,
I guess, because it’s kind of its own.

Alisha: And then if you even want to include
Alaska and Hawaii, which are just way out

there.

It’s quite large.

Good luck with that.

Your weeklong trip.

Alright.

Those are some common misconceptions about
America.

Anything else you want to add to this or anything
else you would like to clear up?

Michael: Don’t you dare say anything about
America because it’s not true.

Alisha: My, gosh.

What just happened?

Those are some misconceptions about America.

Maybe we’ve cleared up a few things about
America or maybe we’ve only intensified a

few of your misconceptions about America.

Who knows?

But thanks very much for joining us this time,
and we will see you again when we have another

fun topic to discuss.

Bye!

艾丽莎:大家好! 我叫艾丽莎。

我再次加入了演播室……

Michael:Michael。 你好。

Alisha:今天,我们将
讨论一些对美国的误解。

所以,让我们开始吧。

让我们从你开始,迈克尔。

你听说美国的第一个误解是
什么?

迈克尔:我将不得不
从“傲慢的美国刻板印象”开始。

我认为,这在过去可能
更准确一些,但

自从互联网和 60 年代以来,
随着越南战争和嬉皮士运动以及

当时一切的发生,这真的
有点平息了。

我为自己是美国人而感到自豪,但我不是
那种刻板印象的美国人,“我们是

第一。

我们是最棒的。”

这真的已经死了。

我在互联网上听到了很多,诸如此类。

艾丽莎:是的,我知道你的意思。

然后是整个第一件事——至少
对我来说,其中一件事……

如果你说世界上有一个最伟大的国家,我会觉得

我认为说
你是世界上最伟大的国家是一件愚蠢的事情。

并不是说我不支持美国或欣赏
美国为我

和世界各地人民所做的一切。

我觉得我现在正踏入危险的水域

其他国家也有很多好东西

在我冒犯任何人之前,我会在这里停下来。

无论如何,我要去我的第一个。

我的第一个是 - 也许这也是你拥有
的。

“汉堡是唯一的美国食物。”

这是我经常听到
的一个误解。

汉堡包和汉堡包的变种。

芝士汉堡、培根芝士汉堡、鳄梨
汉堡、素食汉堡等等。

任何汉堡都不是唯一的美国食物。

还有很多其他的美国食物。

即使你只是在快餐
球场逗留一会儿,这里有热狗,

有费城芝士牛排,都很好吃。

如果你去南方,那里有
各种有趣的东西,比如路易斯安那的食物,

你可以在那里尝试。

你可以吃鳄鱼,你可以吃青蛙腿
,我的意思是,这在某种程度上可能是

从法国菜中借来的。

有很多新鲜的鱼,比如
来自俄勒冈州华盛顿的鲑鱼。

我来自哪里,我们谈了很多关于德州-墨西哥
和加州卷饼文化的话题。

在美国有很多好吃的东西可以尝试,
而且不仅仅是汉堡。

美国食物不仅仅是汉堡。

当人们说:“哦,
你是美国人!

你一定很喜欢汉堡吧?”

嗯,它们很棒,但是还有很多其他的
好东西可以尝试。

迈克尔:是的,同样只是汉堡包
,当你想到汉堡包时,你会想到

快餐,对吧?

所以,这是另一个刻板印象。

即使你想要一个好的、正宗的美式
汉堡包,也不要去快餐

店。

他们就是这么想的:“哦,你是美国人。

您无法欣赏真正优质的优质
奶酪和废话。”

如果你有一个非常好的正宗美式
汉堡,你会非常开心。

你会真的很开心。

真的很棒。

艾丽莎:我错过了任何主要的美国食物吗?

我觉得我有大的。

就像以地区为中心的大型食品一样。

迈克尔:这是我想到的第一件事
,你在路易斯安那州

就想到
了,就人们在想到美国食物时通常不会想到的事情而言。

这是很棒的食物。

而且我认为,更进一步,
在旅行和教学时,人们会

说,“哦,你的名字不是一个真正的美国
名字,”因为我的姓是德国人。

但我会告诉他们没有美国
名字。

一个真正的美国名字就像很久以前的美洲
原住民一样。

美国的美丽之一是
它是你经常听到的“大熔炉”

然后是很多不同的文化,
所以正如你所说的路易斯安那州的食物,

它可能是从法国借来的,而美国的
食物不仅仅是汉堡包。

种类繁多,正如我们
之前谈到的,墨西哥食物。

所以,绝对有各种各样的,
而且不仅仅是一件事。

Alisha:是的,探索。

探索美国美食。

有很多值得探索的地方。

好吧。 你的下一个误解是什么?

迈克尔:下一个误解是……

嗯,这个有点特定于
我来自哪里。

就是“科罗拉多州的每个人都在滑雪或滑雪板
”。

这是什么——我认为
当你遇到来自任何不同

州、省的人时,这是很自然的,你会
想到那个地方的旅游景点,

然后你说,所以我遇到了另一个美国人,甚至
在美国,他们说 ,“哦,你来自

科罗拉多!

你会滑雪和滑雪板吗?”

有时,仅仅因为我来自那里并不
意味着我会这样做,对我来说,我认为这

是一个粗略的类比,但这就像遇到
一个来自法国的人,就像,“哦,做

你每天都去埃菲尔铁塔吗?”

“是啊,小时候有一次。”

美国也一样。

就像整个国家一样,这就是
自由女神像和你曾经

得到的这些东西。

艾丽莎:每隔一段时间。

我来自俄勒冈州,所以我们在那里有滑雪和滑雪板
文化,但我正在努力

思考。

当我说我在俄勒冈州长大
时,就有这个,如果有什么我通常

会回来但我不认为我会这样做的话。

我认为加利福尼亚可能更是如此。

如果你说你来自加利福尼亚,可能
是这样的:“哦,你会冲浪吗?

还是去海边?”

我认为制作
那个州的形象或者那个州的

人民可能是什么样子,然后提出一个问题
真的很容易,但我不

认为人们说这样的话一定是出于恶意。

我认为这只是试图建立一种联系,
例如,“哦,我在某种程度上对

你的州很熟悉”,或者“我对
你的州有所了解。

也许这就是我们可以就它进行对话
的方式。”

但是,是的,对人进行分类,比如
试图根据

他们来自哪里以及你认为他们可能
喜欢做什么来对他们进行刻板印象,我想这可能会让

某些人感到有点恼火。

迈克尔:是的,我不介意,因为我
知道这是好意。

他们只是想建立联系
,我会做同样的事情,就像我想到来自任何国家的

所有音乐家或著名演员或女演员一样
,我会

这么说。

他们只是想进行对话,
所以这没什么大不了的。

但同样,这是一种刻板印象,只是
试着把它联系起来,把自己设身处地

想,“我不涉及什么样的旅游景点
和刻板印象?”

艾丽莎:或者说,“哦,我以前
去过这样那样的景点。

真的很好,”那种……

我认为这肯定不是坏事。

这只是其中之一。

下一个。

让我们看看我的下一个。

我时不时地听到这个。

我听到的是“美国人都
拥有枪支”。

我听说过这个。

迈克尔:我也是。

艾丽莎:Samesies。

迈克尔:萨米西斯。

Alisha:我们都有这部,但
我认为这是一部——也许是因为动作

片,也许是因为
关于美国枪击事件的新闻报道,

这些报道非常悲惨和不幸,
但出于某种原因 ,有些人有这样的

印象,美国人都拥有枪支。

我没有枪。

迈克尔:我也是。

Alisha:有一个人,两个人
没有枪支,我知道还有

很多。

有很多人没有枪支。

我的意思是,无论你是否支持枪支,也许
这是一个不同的问题。

但这一点总是
让我有点困惑。

也许这来自古老的西部电影,
在这个携带枪支、热爱枪支、

开枪射击的国家,我们是牛仔,但我不
认为是那样。

我不认为那是美国。

好吧,整个美国。

美国有部分地区。

美国有些人喜欢
枪。

那是你的事。

它只是不是我的,也不是其他
人的。

迈克尔:我认为我们都
必须停下来犹豫不决,这是一个问题。

这是一个热门话题。

这是第二个修正案,所以人们
一直在争论这个问题。

但我告诉人们,我想不出
我所有的朋友和家人中有五个人。

我想不出五个拥有枪的人。

有些人是军人,
但对于私人来说,这真的不

常见。

我认识的只有少数人
拥有枪,他们出去射击。

这不是什么大问题,但它是一个热门话题。

但我讨厌这样,每次我听到,“哦,
美国——牛仔,枪,这种……”

不,我不是牛仔,没有枪。

你有没有去拍摄?

Alisha:我父母有——你知道粘土
鸽吗?

泥鸽射击?

我的父母过去常常和他们的朋友这样做。

他们只是去一个小射击场
,这只是一个用粘土制成的小圆盘

,这只是一项运动。

这只是为了运动。

他们会开枪,他们会飞——你怎么称呼
它?

一扔?

飞奔吧,我猜。

他们把这只粘土鸽子扔到空中,
然后你瞄准并尝试射击它。

这是一项运动。

因此,我的父母为此买了一对,
然后我想他们过一段时间就卖掉了,

因为他们只是不经常这样做。

我开了几次,我真的
不喜欢它。

只是让我感到非常不舒服。

迈克尔:你几岁?

Alisha:我大概 17 岁、18 岁左右。

迈克尔:关于
你喜欢或不喜欢的年龄。

Alisha:我想,但这让我真的
很不舒服。

我不喜欢它,但我知道有人
用它们来打猎。

我在高中,大学时认识了一个人。

他爸爸有一只,但他每年都会出去打猎
,他会出去杀一头鹿,

然后他们会把它带回家,他们会准备
好,然后家人就可以吃了

整个冬天。

这只是他们家族的传统之一。

但就手枪而言,我认为我
从未见过我认识的任何人。

不,等等,我确实认识一个人。

他有点——我不会说什么。

我对这个视频真的很不舒服。

感觉越来越有争议了

迈克尔:是的,是的。

Alisha:让我们看最后一个,因为它
没有争议。

这将是最后一个。

我的最后一个是“快速轻松
地看到整个国家”。

不,美国很大!

与世界上许多其他国家相比
,美国非常非常大。

我听说有人说他们要去
纽约,然后他们说,“好吧,

然后我们要租一辆车,我们
要开车去加利福尼亚。”

房间里的美国人会说,“
你知道要花多长时间,对吧?

你对那有多远有一些概念吗?”

“你知道,几个小时或几天。”

“不!”

很远。

这就像全国各地 5,000 英里,
所以你应该计划一些时间。

我听说最近有一个人花了大约
一个月的时间从纽约骑自行车到加利福尼亚。

这很疯狂。

沿途有人给他送车

但是你有
没有遇到过不知道这个国家有多大的人?

迈克尔:一直都是。

艾丽莎:真的吗?

迈克尔:通常。

我的意思是,我们又在谈论——你
想建立联系。

所以,通常,他们只是命名——每个人都知道
纽约、德克萨斯、加利福尼亚,

当你想到美国时,几乎就是这样。

即使是我认识的美国人,你真的不会把
它放在规模上有多大,除非你

看一张照片,然后把欧洲放在首位,然后
你会说:“哇,这真是太大了!”

不过,一般来说,我还没有遇到任何
计划旅行和去的人。

我认为当你计划旅行时,他们会做
更多的准备。

但是,是的,同样的事情。

他们真的不知道,没有参考框架,
我猜,因为它是它自己的。

Alisha:如果你甚至想包括
阿拉斯加和夏威夷,它们就在

那里。

它相当大。

祝你好运。

你的一周旅行。

好吧。

这些是对美国的一些常见误解

您还想添加什么
或者您想清理的任何其他内容?

迈克尔:你不敢说任何关于
美国的事,因为那不是真的。

艾丽莎:天哪。

刚才发生了什么?

这些都是对美国的一些误解。

也许我们已经澄清了一些关于
美国的事情,或者我们只是加剧了

你对美国的一些误解。

谁知道?

但是非常感谢这次加入我们,
当我们有另一个有趣的话题要讨论时,我们会再次见到你

再见!