Speak With Vanessa Meet Edilson from Brazil
hi i’m vanessa from speak English with
vanessa calm today I have a special
guest for you I’m going to introduce you
to my wonderful English student in this
conversation we’re going to talk about
their English learning experience their
past and just general ideas about their
life it’s a great privilege to be able
to talk together and so glad to
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let’s meet the student so happy to talk
with you today I’d say that I walked
over eager to talk to you it’s been a
long time sure it has certainly and I
know that we’ve interacted a lot on
Facebook in the group and the course all
those places but nothing’s the same as
talking like this yeah yeah that’s it
yes yes so tell me can you remind me
again where are you living in Brazil are
you Anna northern southern area no no I
live in some fall downtown to be to have
an idea this subway station is about 100
metres from my house wow that’s so close
yeah
I’m Lee I live in a busy city downtown
it seems like that’s probably a loud
area too
yeah yeah there’s a lot of noise in
there by but
I like so much to live here so you’d
rather live in kind of a busy area loud
area then live further away so I live on
the streets surrounded by bank branches
bakeries supermarkets there’s a lot of
trades nearby that’s great you can have
a chance to just do any kind of shopping
or get some little treats right outside
your door yeah yeah I can do it by
walking it’s pretty amazing
I’m really convenient for you yeah so
I’m curious about your English journey
you would you tell me when did you start
what has it looked like did you go to
classes I know now you’re learning
online
what has the English journey looks like
for you yeah as a Mosab english learner
I started learning English in a
practical English school in Brazil but I
had to say that it it was very boring
because the English school at least in
Brazil use boring textbooks and teach
real and bar English that is so
different then we you watch a movie or
we have some hang out if native speakers
that is so different and natural some
were realistic and I felt like it’s not
good to do it but I just made up my mind
to to set my own way to learn English
sure so you left that traditional style
because you said it was boring not
realistic and decided to set off on your
own path yeah that’s it
yes so what have you done on your own
path what kind of things have helped you
I know you use English a lot you listen
a
so could you explain a little bit about
what’s been useful for you yeah as I had
mentioned sometimes the group I been
working for a North American company
called both for about four years but in
the beginning was very tough for me
because I had an interview in English
the very difficult interview because it
was a situational interview that’s a
kind of interview that the director
boots you on a situation to see how you
can deal with stress and conflict and
work under pressure and so on that’s
horrible to top it off my English was
not so good at that time so you had to
do all of that in English job interviews
are stressful anyway but you did it in
English in that kind of stressful
environment and I guess you did well
enough you got the job yeah but I’d say
that it was a miracle not for my skill
for my ability for God’s for each was a
miracle because I I had no I had no
chance to to be approved all that
interview I write so you just did your
best and they approved of you and said
okay we’ll give it a try so you got that
job and do you use English in your job
pretty regularly yeah I often have twice
meetings two meetings per week and via
Skype are a specific tool called video
because and I’ve got verse sad because
my company cut off some travel expenses
so I had never opportunity to go abroad
my company is located the hard quarter
is located in u.s. in the US and New
York City
but believe it or not I had never
opportunity to go abroad so I love an
expression which goes like that which
live life gives you lemons make lemonade
it’s my model you have a mindset so for
you hopefully someday you’ll get a
chance to visit the headquarters but
until then you’re using English in those
meetings on skype and still working hard
and maybe someday you’ll get to go to
New York I hope so yeah I get my I keep
my hopes up for it beautiful expression
yes you’re keeping your hopes up so tell
me a little bit about your listening
practice I know you’ve shared a lot of
useful information in our Facebook group
and some books that you’re interested in
what kind of stuff do you do after work
to improve your English skills as I
mention in the group I’m consider myself
a bookworm out of bookworm to be more
specific so I used to listen at least at
eight hours a day podcasts and
audiobooks as well I’m really into
English
I specialize about English this is my
drive driving force to learn more and I
every single day I wake up and after I
have a breakfast I put my headset and
started to listen podcasts so I always
pick out some interesting matters that
piqued my interest and so such as
finance issues religious issues and I
like to choose some self-help helpful
self-help books
and and I said go to myself to to listen
at least three other books about three
gold that’s quite an accomplishment -
yeah yeah
regarding the reading I used to read at
least three books above but it’s a big
close attention to the contacts and
after that I make a brief about this
book a bit make a summary about the book
and I I start some discussion with my
colleagues and it’s very interesting
yeah see you’re not just listening but
you’re trying to process that
information and share it with your
colleagues that’s a great way to engage
conversations yeah exactly I always
write down my thoughts about the book
our audiobooks our podcasts or TED talks
and whatever then I I deep I dig deeper
into the demand thoughts and I I built
my own mindset and start up start out
some discussion about it it’s very
interesting that sounds really engaging
- because you’re using it in different
ways some people might think oh I’m just
listening that’s it but that’s not it
for you you’re doing a lot more than
that
yeah I have a point that I’d say that I
don’t learn English I live English
beautiful I love it and it seems like
it’s really working for you because
first of all we’re having a conversation
easily together and you’ve never been to
an english-speaking country so listening
and your message and summarizing and
talking with people really work it’s
been successful for you oh thank you
yeah I say that in the beginning I felt
somewhat
are uncomfortable to speak in English
because I thought that it was funny the
way that Americans speak but little by
little I get the hang up English and I
started to mimic Americans and it’s very
I had fun by doing that and I like to
mimic and to shadow native speakers yeah
I think like it’s not just something
that you have to do it’s your passion
and there’s no way that you could keep
that up for six to eight hours a day if
you didn’t feel passionate and you
certainly do feel passionate yeah that’s
it yes yes I’m curious do you have any
because you love books do you have any
book recommendations I know you read a
lot listen a lot but are there any books
that you would say oh yes if you’re
interested in similar topics like
finance self-improvement here’s some
good recommendations and what do you
think one of my favorite books is how to
win friends and and make an influence
people by Dale Carnegie it’s that very
great book and another word is the five
love language who creep learning how to
express your love and feel love from
other people
exactly exactly if I not mistaken in the
beginning of this week I post a page of
this book and I read out loud not only
this book yeah yeah and this is an
excellent way to use our group I loved
listening to what yous how you’re
reading how other members to are reading
things I had does this is reading things
Martin is - everyone’s trying to read
the passage and it’s not just about
pronunciation but you’re learning
something - from that material like a
finance or self-improvement it’s not
just English yeah that is the whole
point that is the idea to learn learning
English is a consequence but the most
important is to use English as a bridge
not as a as a real fact of matter but we
need to use English to make connections
to spread the word so to learn from
other people and to be a global citizen
oh I couldn’t have said it better myself
beautiful that’s really what the purpose
of language is we learn language as kids
not because we love language when we’re
babies but because we have to
communicate and that’s the best way
nowadays so you’re communicating with
global ideas and books and thoughts and
members in our community and your
coworker is great yeah exactly
there is no point in learning English by
itself but English but you have to learn
English to put English into practice to
to make friends to spread your ideas and
to learn much more
it’s very indescribable saying about
English yeah yeah this a beautiful
beautiful mindset because you’re
connecting with other people and I think
it’s the best way to make world peace
unity because we’re connected exactly
exactly
so in conclusion would you have any
advice
if someone says oh man I would love to
be able to speak like Edelson how can I
get there what is some like advice or
some number one tip that you would give
to that person who wants to get there
okay I’d say not only for English but
for everything in life we need to start
off by asking ourselves why do you
really wanna to learn this thing it’s
very important to to ask yourself
I because this result is the most
important thing to help you to build a
strong mindset and intrinsic motivation
and it’s very important when the barrier
is started to come up over your path to
English fluency and we need to know
what’s the reason why you won’t learn
English that’s very important
we started with y so you have a strong
mindset and intrinsic motivation to keep
going because there is not easy to learn
anything in life you need to putting
some time on that on that and you need
to make effort and but you need you to
see English as a pleasure not as a
boring words and grunt work but as a
pleasure I think that there is no need
you you worrying about you need to lose
your accent because your accent your
accent is individual there is no problem
in accent but in pronunciation is the
problem but you need to I think that
this is three factors very important to
become fluent in English that is a clear
pronunciation there are great vocabulary
but III mean help to vocabulary use
cocoa cobbler not we don’t need to learn
this fancy words or difficult word but
the freeze of verbs that Americans say
right making and laugh and all the time
but we need to get used to phrasal verbs
and have the clear pronunciation should
to tune your ears to to pay close
attention to American a lot have to say
to you
and it’s no need currently I am watching
the comedy called Seinfield
that is very difficult to way too
difficult the characters speak way too
that there is no need to what this is
serious
alas you wanna to challenge yourself but
you need to pay attention to what people
are saying not to respond but to
understand the message yeah that seems
really clear too that you have to know
why because like you said when it
becomes difficult if you don’t clearly
know why you’re probably going to stop
you’re not going to follow that path so
you need to know why and then make sure
you have clear pronunciations don’t
worry about your accent but clear
pronunciation but start and stay
motivated that’s excellent thank you for
sharing that I’m sure that that’s really
gonna the last thing about the walk it’s
very important you need to set up
realistic goals I mean I don’t know if
you heard something about Smart acronym
that stands for sent by specific
measurable attainable and relevant and
timely we need to set up goals SMART
goals and from the great acronym yeah
you need to keep track of your goals and
and big goals realistic not far away
from what you stand right now sure them
be honest and realistic about where you
are right now and be realistic and make
smart goals about where you want to go
in the short term or in the long run
that’s great exactly exactly you need to
take your one step at a time and to pace
ourselves to avoid to burn in the
candles at both ends that’s very great
is our goal exactly
those are good tips for just doing other
things in life too not just for English
but in life if you want to do something
new or learn something make SMART goals
no why why do you want to do it as great
for any kind of learning yeah exactly
and thank you
you so much for your encouragement today
to other people I’m also sharing with me
your story I feel like in our Facebook
group I feel like I have learned so many
different things that you shared about
yourself but now talking to you
face-to-face is awesome my pleasure I
got a key cut off our talk and I hope to
have other talks ahead and I thank you
so much for our morning crying yes I
hope I can continue to just be there to
give more information or feedback
because you’re certainly on the right
path you’re doing so many great things
so I’ll just give the best that I can
okay I’m glad to hear that for you and
it’s such a pleasure to be part of your
group and let’s help one another to
become fluent that is the whole point
let’s do it
keep up the good work suspension I hope
that you enjoyed this wonderful
conversation with my students it takes a
lot of courage to speak English with a
native speaker and then share this
conversation with the world on YouTube
so I’m really proud of them for doing
this and I hope that it will encourage
you to keep up the hard work
to continue to learn English and I want
you to let me know in the comments below
this video
what is your English learning story when
did you start to learn English what’s
your goal your motivation what are you
doing now to continue what would you
like to do in the future
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people all around the world and be
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