IELTS Speaking Practice With Vanessa and Jessica
hi everyone thank you for joining this
video I’m Vanessa from speak English
with Vanessa comm and today I have a
special guest this is Jessica from the
IELTS energy podcast and she is here to
tell us about the IELTS test and how it
can improve your English how it can
improve your life and we’re going to
talk about it together so Jessica would
you like to tell us a little bit about
the IELTS test sure yeah first of all
IELTS stands for the International
English Language Testing system so it’s
a long name for a test that is pretty
straightforward actually people have to
take this test in order to go to
english-speaking universities so that’s
the academic IELTS so I think every
english-speaking University in the world
accepts IELTS scores so if it’s your
dream to study your bachelor’s or get
your masters or PhD you’ll probably have
to take this test but there’s also a
general IELTS test and that’s for people
who want to move abroad maybe by
themselves or with their families so I
think like the goals for the general
test are sometimes bigger than the
academic test like some of my students
you know they want to move with their
kids from whatever country to like
Canada for example because the education
system is better or you know like they
have really huge goals for their lives
so IELTS can be really important for
some people yes yes so it’s useful if
you want to study abroad live abroad
work abroad just move abroad and a lot
of people that’s their goal you want to
learn English so that you can use it
with real live English speakers around
the world so this test is useful for
living and traveling and even if you’re
not going to take the IELTS exam I want
to tell you really quick why you should
watch this video and how it can be
useful to you so today Jessica and I are
going to be talking about this back and
forth so it’s going to be a really
useful time to hear native speakers
talking together we’re going to use a
lot of natural
Russians we’re gonna be talking back and
forth just in a casual natural way so
don’t leave if you are not taking the
IELTS test you too can benefit from this
video and you know what I’ve had some of
my best students are taking IELTS just
because they have hit a plateau in their
English studies you know they they don’t
have a specific goal anymore like they
know they want to speak English better
but they don’t know how and they don’t
like have any direction so some of the
students in our course actually they’re
doing this just to challenge themselves
and just for their own personal
satisfaction just to like have this
study plan that we created because our
study plan sure it focuses on testing
skills of course it’s a test preparation
course but it’s a balance so everything
on the study plan is a balanced one
activity a day is to do something in the
course like watch a lecturer and do some
worksheets maybe vocabulary or grammar
writing everything’s in there but then
the other activity is focused on
improving your overall English skills so
it could be an assignment like watch a
YouTube video for three minutes and try
and talk exactly like the person or you
know it it really is motivating for our
students so I yeah we’ve gotten really
good feedback even from people that
aren’t taking the test they still love
our course I think that’s a great point
to make that it’s a great thing to have
a goal when you’re learning English and
maybe if you feel like you’ve reached
that plateau you need something to
motivate you further and IELTS does have
a speaking section which is what we’re
going to talk about today so this test
is not simply about writing and reading
or listening but it’s also going to
challenge your speaking skills so today
we have a special surprise to test this
kind of question system and to use it
together so would you like to tell us a
little bit about the speaking section of
the test what can in learners expect for
the speaking section sure yeah the
speaking test is face-to-face with an
examiner so this is what sets it apart
from toe
because we get a lot of questions like
what’s the difference between IELTS and
TOEFL which one should I take I don’t
know um that’s a good question of course
I am on the IELTS side of things so I
think that it’s better than TOEFL um cuz
on TOEFL like it’s it’s not natural it’s
weird you have to like talk to a
computer and like Mads
odd that stuff doesn’t happen in real
life unless it’s like this you’re
talking to someone facing you on the
computer video TOEFL doesn’t have that
so on IELTS you sit in a room with an
examiner perhaps they look something
like me and uh and then there are three
parts on the speaking test so part one
is just like personal general questions
easy like do you like to go shopping
tell me about your apartment and stuff
like that and then part two is the long
turn sort of speech in a way you’re
given a topic and you have to talk about
it for two minutes um so that’s that
takes a lot of practice I think people
are really surprised when they start
practicing this and start trying and
then run out of stuff to say and and I
because I teach online a lot you know
our students in the course and you know
I’m just waiting and looking at them and
I’m like it’s that’s not even a minute
and it’s like what it felt forever so
yeah we do have to practice that part a
lot um and the part three those
questions are more difficult you know
stuff you expect on like an exam like
talk about the advantages and
disadvantages of wearing school uniforms
or I don’t know you know kind of boring
stuff um but these questions are really
fun to practice because they’re often
topics that people don’t talk about in
their native language right like I don’t
I don’t talk about this stuff with my
friends like it’s it’s weird so it is
really fun to practice these things and
it it motivates our students to start
reading newspaper you know to start
these other activities that really
benefit their their English overall but
also their lives because they’re
learning more information that they
would
otherwise so yeah lots of fun right and
practice and that’s a good point that
your students are also having a chance
to meet with you personally to practice
those skills so we’re going to talk
about how you can use Jessica and the
IELTS energies three keys course at the
end of this video but don’t forget about
it you can meet with her and really
learn in depth about how to succeed on
the IELTS test and the speaking section
so are you ready to practice some
questions together sure so I’m going to
ask you some speaking questions that
could definitely be on the exam are you
ready Vanessa I am going to try my best
all right so I’ll ask you some questions
and give you some feedback that would be
based on what an examiner would look for
okay first of all um Vanessa do you work
or are you a student I work at the
moment I have a job and I work for
myself my job is to teach English online
but I am also a student of life
I am always learning anything throughout
my life um how do you think your job
might change in the future oh that’s a
great question how will my job change in
the future well I think that as English
learners around the world find other
methods to learn English as English
becomes more popular or less popular I
will have to adapt and find other ways
and new ways to help people communicate
better
okay those that was great so um what the
examiner mind would be thinking with
that first of all you’re graded on four
things right so um pronunciation of
course perfect so you would get the
highest score there um the biggest thing
for raising someone’s speaking score on
the exam is pronunciation that
is the easiest category to raise your
score because if you show a motion if
you can laugh a little bit if your voice
goes up and down you’re gonna get a
seven or higher and that’s what most
students want so we focus on that a lot
in our course and grammar that’s the
hardest thing to raise your score I mean
you know as a teacher imagine like
improving someone’s grammar so
significantly in like a month like that
doesn’t happen really so I mean we do of
course talk about sentence structures
and stuff like that and the course but
really that is not the most efficient
use of one’s time um you did use some
interesting vocabulary so you had like
adapt for example so that would be a
high scoring word the examiner also
listens for interesting like idiomatic
language so these sort of natural
phrases that Vaness that you teach your
students these are the phrases that are
going to get students high scores on the
exam and the length of your answer was
good so in part one we want like three
to five sentences not too long not too
short um and you did speak a little bit
more slowly than you would naturally did
you feel that I felt like that because
especially I was thinking about my
answer and trying to formulate what I
wanted to say so would you suggest that
students speak slowly because they’re
thinking about it or would you suggest
that they just try to speak quickly I
think a lot of my students want to speak
quickly because that’s what they hear
native speakers doing so well what’s
your advice about that yeah um that’s a
really good question I think the mistake
that students make is trying to speak
too quickly and then they they make more
grammar mistakes their pronunciation
gets worse they they pause because they
can’t think of ideas fast enough so
speaking quickly hurts their score in so
many ways so yeah I always tell students
on test day speak a little bit more
slowly it gives you time to think it
helps you sort out your eye
Diaz in your vocabulary so it definitely
raises your score and like there’s no
you know like criteria that the
examiner’s looking at like speed very
fast good high score like that no that
doesn’t happen um and you also had like
a filler phrase there to give yourself
time to think like oh that’s a great
question so that’s a test strategy right
like in some of my youtube videos and
some of our podcasts we talked about
these natural phrases that students can
use on the exam to not only by
themselves time to think but when you
use a phrase like that like oh gosh my
my mind just went blank just a second
okay like if you’re you know talking
through your thoughts like that that
that raises your vocabulary score right
because it’s these natural native
speaker phrases um and those are things
that most courses and textbooks don’t
teach students like I’ve never seen a
textbook say how to say your mind is
blank I got never see it so yeah we chat
and you try to do the same thing right
you want your students to speak like
people do today not like a textbook that
was written 20 years ago but right like
how do we really talk yeah that’s what’s
valuable yeah yes so some of the main
points you said to are to improve your
score pronunciation is something that
you can really focus on to improve
quicker than say general grammar and
also improving these kind of filler
expressions thinking about some of them
may be learning a couple filler
expressions or high-quality vocabulary
words that you can use in any
circumstance
so the expression I use to say oh that’s
a good question or I’ll just a moment
let me think about it
you can use that with any question it
doesn’t matter what they ask you so
thinking about some of those to
purposefully use on the test could help
yeah definitely I mean looking at some
of the material that you’ve produced and
then comparing that with also some of
the stuff that we give our students it’s
the dick is crossed over I mean there
are so many similarities
wait I don’t want people to think about
IELTS as you know removed from real life
right because that’s kind of how we
think about tests sometimes and the fact
is like it’s not just some university
algebra exam or whatever like it’s it’s
not that it’s a language test it’s a
test of your English so you have to have
you have to have good English you have
to try and approach how native speakers
communicate so all the stuff that you’re
teaching your students would directly
transfer to the exam and raise people’s
scores so yeah it was fun for me looking
at some of your materials and being like
ah I use that like I put that in my
course too so yeah it’s really cool yeah
a lot of those natural expressions are
crossed over in daily life in
professional life business English exam
IELTS speaking test you can use a lot of
those natural expressions in a variety
of situations for sure no let’s see this
was the first section you said there’s
different sections so this was the first
section what about the next part the
longer part do you do you want to try
this and stuff okay well I think it
would be a good chance to show people
who are watching this what a good or bad
answer might be and some of your tips
yeah perfect
okay um so on the real exam the student
would have one minute to prepare their
answer so they get a pencil and paper
and they get to take notes and that’s
their chance to organize and think but
Vanessa you don’t give that minute all
right so this is a bigger challenge um
Vanessa I would like you to describe
your best friend from high school
oh okay and can I can I ask you a
question first before we get started
when the students go to the exam and
they have this section is there going to
be a timer is there any way that they
can know how long they’ve been talking
yeah that’s a good question so um it’s
not up to the student to keep track
luckily they don’t that’s one less thing
they have to think about um the examiner
times everything right like that’s part
of their job they keep track of
everything so I am the examiner in this
situation I’m just gonna
hold a timer up on my phone this trusty
tool and then okay are you ready to
start speaking I’m reading right go
ahead
all right so my best friend in high
school my best friend in high school I
met her my second to last year of high
school and her name is Kate and we have
a lot in common because we both really
enjoy doing energetic fun things we
weren’t really too serious so we really
liked to listen to music together and
run around and do silly things and dress
up together and I think these kind of
activities helped our friendship to grow
and there was one time that we had a
really great memory together my final
year of high school my senior year we
were in a play together so every night
we went to play practice with the
theater class and we just practiced the
play and we dated again and again and
just had a lot of fun memories with our
other friends but also with each other
because it was you know in this fun
setting where we were both having a good
time and enjoying memorizing lines and
talking about you know what we were
gonna do in the play and what we were
gonna wear and where we were gonna move
so I think those memories really
solidified our friendship and even now
we still talk through the internet and a
couple weeks ago I met with her for the
first time in a couple years actually
because I’d been living abroad so we got
together again and it was just really
cool to pick up where we left off and
just chat about high school or chat
about what we were doing I got to meet
her boyfriend she got to meet my husband
and we just really fell back into our
friendship so I feel really lucky to
have a friend like her who saw me during
those times of being a teenager and
being in high school and just you know
getting together and having fun together
but now that we’re adults really getting
to know each other
who we are now that’s good that’s two
minutes that’s two minutes so like a
long time I know right like I could see
as you were speaking there were a couple
seconds between thoughts where you’re
like I still am talking like there’s
still more time you know what I mean
like it does feel like a long time um so
that’s why I mean so obviously like
you’re a native speaker you teach
English for a living you know how to
talk and even for you this two minutes
was like kind of weird like really how
do I fill this not only how do I fill
this because obviously you’re able to
keep talking but how do I fill this in
an organized way that will give me a
high score on the exam right so um
that’s why on in our course and actually
we have a recent podcast episode about
this how to do part 2 describing people
because in part 2 there’s like four
basic things you’re gonna describe a
person a place an object or an event and
experience so there’s a little four
general things um well I just moved
really fast I wonder if the camera
caught me um so yeah so this describing
a person is like likely that you would
get something like that so um we did a
whole episode about a strategy for that
first you describe what they look like
because in your description Vanessa and
it’s funny because Lindsey did this -
when she practice um and a lot of my
students do this like you never actually
described what she looked like or her
personality you know like you know what
I mean I’m like where are the activities
we did together but maybe not those
really simple things yeah so I think
it’s it’s nice to have a strategy for
each of these things like when you’re
asked to describe a person first of all
like directly answer that so this is
part of English communication right
being more direct then a lot of people
are in their own language or culture so
this is another thing to practice not
only for the test but just for life in
general if your
now live or study abroad so we want to
answer the question directly right away
so if you’re asked to describe a person
first of all describe what they look
like and then describe their personality
and then tell a story about that person
so I think the most like coherent and
organized part of your response was the
story about the play right because like
when you tell a story it’s naturally
organized so that’s a strategy we
practice in our course like how to
tackle any part two question with a
story and that’s just that’s a fun thing
to practice just for communication but
it’s a like a necessary test strategy
sure and that’s going to help students
feel like that two minutes passes faster
than it would otherwise because they’ve
got something that they’re following and
two minutes goes by quicker when you’re
telling a story about first I did this
then I did this then I did this and this
is the conclusion it feels a little more
natural than just trying to think about
random ideas about that question exactly
exactly and it also improves usually
their pronunciation and their vocabulary
because when you’re telling a story you
have specific details in mind and that
makes your vocabulary more specific
right and that’s again how you raise
your score and then as far as
pronunciation goes if you compare a
student’s answer like if they’re just
thinking about a test answer like my
friend is very nice she and they just
kind of you know like sound nervous but
if they start telling a personal story
they relax and that reflects in their
pronunciation and they get more
expressive and like I said like that’s
how you raise your pronunciations go so
all of these strategies that we talk
about in our course and on our podcast
they’re directly linked to raising your
score um and it’s not like tricks and
you know like secrets and like sabotage
the exam like you know like these are
just logical skills that you’re gonna
need when you speak English anytime
especially telling a story when you do
that you’re gonna do that with friends
so when you take the IELTS exam you’re
probably gonna use that in the two
minutes section but when you go to
Canada and you meet a new friend and
they ask you o what do you think about
Canada you’re gonna have to use a story
oh it’s pretty good yesterday this
happened that’s gonna be a story so
using those storytelling skills it’s
really valuable yeah totally I think
this is something that as as English
teachers we practice with students all
the time
so there’s I mean there are reasons for
that so yeah exactly I mean I think
students get really nervous about
participating in a conversation with
native speakers like I freaked out if
I’m like in a group of Spanish speakers
and I’m like ooh what am I gonna say but
if you you have to rehearse it you have
to practice and you’re exactly right
like this is what we do in conversations
we tell stories about our life so yeah
yes yes and that’s a question I’d like
to ask you as well that some of my
students have asked me about the IELTS
exam they were wondering should they
practice their answers is it something
that is going to make it seem less
natural if like today you asked me a
question about my best friend from high
school if the examiner asked me that
question would it seem less natural
would it really be helping my speaking
skills do you recommend that students
practice actual answers in advance or
just you know general English improving
skills um no they definitely have to
practice questions that might be on the
exam because the questions change all
the time and not only that but the
examiner has like so many questions to
choose from you never know what question
you’re gonna be asked same in the
writing you never know what you’re gonna
have to write about that doesn’t mean
that you can’t practice writing an essay
you know what I mean like it’s the same
it’s communication and you’re you’re not
practicing specific answers you’re
practicing your fluency right in
speaking and writing you’re practicing
getting the ideas out you’re practicing
organizing these ideas and you’re
practicing the the structure that the
examiner is looking for
and the fulfilling the expectations that
the examiner is looking for so in our
course I go through really specific
skills linked to the tests and the
grades and you practice each thing on
its own right so it’s all based on test
practice but it’s very like specific
skills that they’re working on so yeah
you definitely have to practice real
IELTS questions and they’re not going to
be the same as on test a if they are I
will be shocked sure and that’s great
advice is to practice that flow in the
order and the different skills that you
need to use yeah you need to practice
that that makes sense and I’m not also
Logan see right that’s half of the
battle is just getting the words out you
guys um and let me first note some of
the awesome vocabulary some of the
awesome vocabulary that Vanessa was able
to get out on that speaking part to
answer so I noted some stuff down like
you said pick up where we left off right
like that’s a great phrase and these are
phrases that if a student used on the
exam the examiner would be like really
impressed and start thinking oh like
maybe it’s the seven so these key little
phrases you said solidified our
relationship like that’s really an
advanced word can you imagine hearing a
student say that you’d be so impressed
so like this these are things that guys
if you’re watching and you’re studying
for IELTS you need to write some of this
stuff down because this is like gold for
increasing your score sure so so far
improve your pronunciation improve your
expressions use these natural kind of
expressions and also high-level
vocabulary slip in a couple words that
you feel comfortable using and use
expression to describe your answers and
I’m also curious about the third section
you said is gonna be more general yeah
called questions exactly so the what the
examiner says to introduce it is the she
she he explains that the topics of part
three are
laid into the topic of part two but
they’re more general okay so and more
difficult because the test gets more
difficult as you know you go along just
like any test so if you were asked to
describe your best friend then a part
three question might be um how do people
make friends today in different ways
than they did in the past mmm so this is
my question I will try my best to answer
it that’s for you go okay yes do people
make friends differently yes I think
that people make friends differently now
because of the internet I think that
people often find friends through social
media or they stay in touch with our
friends through the internet more often
than like our grandparents did so I feel
like most people nowadays contact their
friends through the internet instead of
going over to their house and that’s
probably how we meet people in the first
place too is through the internet or
through more modern means than just I’m
gonna stop you there I’m gonna stop you
there no that was great
I just wanna to note because if this
were like valid test practice which all
the test practice you do should be valid
right it should mirror the exam to
prepare you in as many ways as possible
so like if you were my student I would
have to stop you because in part three
your answer can’t be too long because
the examiner wants to ask you three to
five questions and it has to fit into
four to five minutes so your answer
should be like um 45 seconds to a minute
and these are these are testing
strategies and skills that you have to
practice right another reason you have
to practice for the exam is just getting
used to what two minutes feels like what
45 seconds feels like right so a
strategy to tackle part three questions
would be um to have very organized
answers so you don’t repeat yourself
like even in your answer Vanessa like
you started to sort of repeat ideas
right like so we do meet friends
mine and like yeah so and that’s
something that might lower your fluency
score so we want to practice being very
direct first of all I give your opinion
straight away a reason an example a
conclusion and like that and that’s
something that’s great to practice
because maybe it doesn’t come as
naturally if you’re just talking with a
friend maybe you’re gonna be a little
less direct or maybe not quite as
organized so practicing that organized
speech is really valuable for the third
section mmm-hmm yeah exactly so um
speaking part three it’s like an
academic essay really I mean all the
linking words the organization the
advice we give students about writing an
academic essay it transfers to speaking
part three so there’s a lot of crossover
they’re like what linking words to
memorize how specific your example
should be so it’s yeah it’s it’s
important to practice this sure sure and
that’s a lot of great advice I really
appreciate you telling me nuts so I can
pass it along to my students and also
all the people who are watching this I
think hopefully they have pages and
pages of notes already there’s a lot of
valuable things that you talked about
and the good thing is this video is
going to be on YouTube so people can
watch it as many times as they’d like
review it a lot I recommend it and you
also have a lot of information that
you’ve already put together on your
podcast in the course the three keys
course so could you tell us a little bit
more first about your podcast and then
about the course yeah yeah so we have a
podcast called IELTS energy and we come
out with four episodes a week we’re into
the 200s now I think we’ve done like 220
episodes already um they’re around 15
minutes on average
I think we’re getting longer now because
we just like to talk so much but they’re
all focused on like really specific
things about the test like what should
you wear on test day um what is what are
some good linking words for part 2 how
should I answer questions about the
environment
what are four phrasal verbs like
use in part one like it’s really
specific stuff um and really helpful
we’ve had students just like listen to
the podcast to prepare for the exam um
and then we have a youtube channel as
well same name IELTS energy so I come
out with two YouTube videos a week about
five minutes also very specific things
about the test um and we’ve compiled all
of our ideas and strategies cuz we don’t
give it all away in the podcast but
we’ve come out with a course called
three keys IELTS and we came out with it
last year we’ve had a couple hundred
students go through it already
um in fact yesterday I just talked to a
student who had never taken the test
before and she took our course and she
got an 8.5 in a reading like wow that’s
a great review that’s incredible
yeah like even native speakers can’t do
that like what it’s good and she’s a new
mom like she just had a baby and are
like how do what so we interviewed her
for the podcast and very cool story very
inspirational but we have a lot of
students like that who have come to us
with these amazing score so one of the
biggest advantages of our course one of
the biggest motivators for students is
the study plan um cuz I think that’s
what freaks students out the most is
like how much time do I have to spend on
this people are busy you’ve had a baby
you have a job you know people are busy
so I have organized your time for you I
tell you exactly what to do every day
and it’s very efficient there’s no
wasted time like in the classroom
teachers have to feel time right like
you get paid by the hour or whatever any
leg okay let’s do a warmer let’s you
know have a conversation for now it’s
not test practice they’re just filling
time on the online course I don’t do
that everything is useful everything’s
directly connected um and one of the
greatest feedback the things that I’ve
had from a student is that she felt like
she was kind of shy she feels like she’s
kind of shy and taking our course
as in
creased her confidence in speaking
English because of the motivation
because of these I mean it’s full of
energy it’s full of cool activities to
do that not only improve your testing
scores but also your overall English so
yeah the feedback on our course has been
amazing yeah that’s a really great way
to know - that what you’re doing is
working if it’s working for a lot of
other people I mean that’s the first
thing we do whenever we buy anything
when I go to Amazon the first thing I do
is look at the reviews and if you had a
lot of students who have said wow this
has really improved my score it’s really
improved my confidence my speaking
skills that is what you want I mean
that’s the goal you don’t want to waste
your time and from my personal point of
view I think the best thing about
courses like this compared to free
information online is the organization
you know that you’re not wasting any
time because a professional you has made
that plan so that they know exactly what
they should do and how to use that
material there’s a lot of free
information out there but you have to
organize it and figure out how to do it
maybe you’re not sure if it’s the best
way to really use that information so
your course is really organized and is
gonna help people and already has
already helped so many people like
achieve that seven eight I mean it’s
incredible and honestly like there’s a
lot of IELTS information online and I
you know I look through it because I
recommend resources to students and a
lot of it is just oh okay not a lot of
it but there’s some really really bad
information out there and like I’ve been
working with IELTS for what like 12
years now I know this test inside it out
I know exactly what you have to do to
get the scores you need um and I’ve been
teaching it forever so there’s a new
teacher she might give you you know 10
steps for example to find a reading
question with me 3 steps like everything
is boiled down to three steps that’s why
it’s called three keys IELTS because
everything is as simple as possible just
the easiest way to like find the answers
yes and I think that’s a
thing to do is define simplicity instead
of trying to find twenty reasons or
these top 50 things that you need to
know focus on the simplest way to reach
that goal and we also have something
special that Jessica and I have put
together for those of you who would love
to join the IELTS three Keys IELTS
course we have two special bonuses one
of them is if you use the link that’s
with this video you will get $50 off the
course and you will also get five bonus
pronunciation audio lessons from me so
the courts is Jessica’s material this is
the IELTS three Keys IELTS material from
her but the five pronounciation audio
lessons are from me they’re associated
with my course 50 natural English
expressions but they will work for
anything you need to improve your
pronunciation like we talked about for
the IELTS exam so these audio lessons
will also help you to improve just an
extra bonus for you all so this bonus is
going to be available only for a short
time so it’s going to be available for
one week March 1st 2016 until March 7th
2016 so this is just a limited time if
you’re watching this at you can still
get the $50 off but these five
pronunciation lessons will not be
included so don’t wait and I’m really
glad that we can offer this to you guys
it’s really cool to be able to interview
Jessica and talk about these things
together and I mean the bonus that the
bonus that you added is perfect because
like I said I mean students freaked out
about the speaking test it is scary and
helping your pronunciation helping
students with their pronunciation that’s
the easiest way to increase their score
so this this package is like a dream for
IELTS to do it should be a dream for all
students yes yes and I really appreciate
you taking your time to to explain
everything about IELTS I think that
people who are watching this will learn
more about you and also just feel
comfortable with your teaching styles
and
that you really know the IELTS test and
you’re not teaching it just as test
taking skills but this is speaking and
general English skills that’s going to
help them in a lot of situations and
it’s not boring I have gone through so
many like online IELTS classes and whip
you know to compare whatever what other
people are doing oh my goodness like so
many of the videos are like an old
British dude and like a bad jacket like
in front of a whiteboard you know like I
obviously our course is not like that
it’s me and I have this much energy all
the time so yes yes you’ll have fun and
enjoy yourself and also be able to
improve so sounds like the winning
combination totally exactly yes and
thanks so much for taking the time to
make this video together to give this
really valuable information to everyone
who’s watching and just explain the
IELTS test further thanks so much
Jessica my pleasure it was super fun
Vanessa thank you for having me it was
awesome oh it’s my pleasure and I hope
we can talk to you again everyone who is
interested in joining your course will
see you again they will see you inside
the course and they’ll also get my
pronunciation lessons I’m sure that will
be great yep you will see hours of me in
the course wonderful that sounds like a
good deal so thanks so much and have a
wonderful rest of your day awesome thank
you you too Vanessa hi