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desk

I’m desk this is topics we’re gonna try

a podcast II sort of thing today podcast

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something in English for fun and you can

hear what a real conversation sounds

like so anyway today

thanks for coming Kyle I’m Kyle I was

never a desk

I was Kyle all along thanks for joining

forever Kyle that’s me forever 21 I was

born this way really yeah I think Lady

Gaga has a song about that right it’s

about all the Kyle’s of the world yeah

she was also born this way she was born

a Kyle but she changed her name twice to

Stephanie first Stephanie first and then

Lady Gaga later she’s really cool with

rolling with this something yeah okay we

miss her me and all the other Kyle’s we

get together sometimes and talk about it

like man she was a good Kyle

but now she’s a great lady gaga have you

ever considered a name change my first

names actually Jonathan no yeah really

yeah what a revelation so why are you

called Kyle wait you just lied to us

they said you are always in forever Kyle

we can’t trust you

desk middle name Kyle’s count important

detail middle name Kyle’s count too I

feel I feel lied to most people do but

you’ll get used to it all right my

parents asked them all right let’s go on

to safer territory okay let’s discuss

let’s discuss media our topic with desk

for today is to discuss the last thing

we watch the most recent thing we

watched TV show movie I suppose it could

be a sporting event but we can explain

the details of that thing

and then try to give just enough

information so the other person can

guess what it was that we watched so the

rule of the game will be will give the

other person a hint there will be a

guess if the guess is wrong the hints

continue and we will try to continue

until the correct answer is the rule to

last longer or to be guessed first

because maybe if you make the rule the

person tries to make the other person

take longer to guess then you know

naturally not give away important to you

that is true are you ready I’m ready

yeah yeah I I was born ready you were

born Kyle’s mom okay

okay do you want to go first I’ll guess

okay the last thing that I watch

features a middle-aged man

house of cards no okay

now is it your turn oh okay the last

thing that I watched

features five men

was it party of five

no that’s not five men is it party of

five I don’t know I never watched this

okay the last thing that I watched takes

place in the east coast of the United

States was it Groundhog Day no hmm nice

guest oh yeah what a loser man he’s

cursed okay the last thing that I

watched hmm has a special guest in every

episode oh this is kind of cheating if

this is something we were talking about

earlier is it comedians in cars getting

coffee nope

oh never mind then

okay the last thing I watched now I said

it features a middle-aged old man mm-hmm

Oh actually to be honest there’s lots of

middle-aged men and women of all ages

I just didn’t want you to get stuck in

the middle aged man detail because I can

tell when you said Groundhog Day yours

thinking things that are just one

middle-aged man well you should say

features the point was to make it hard

for you to guess so my first glue helped

in no way okay well that’s basically Oh

disregard that Yukos was it Mad Men No

okay all right the last thing that I

watched mmm the episodes take place in

the south of the US

I got this one Fab five you watch queer

eye I did hey I win and be queer eyes

awesome it’s awesome

it’s no good show it’s a good show I did

you watch the previous version they used

to be a show called Queer Eye for the

straight guy I haven’t I watched that

too it was more kind of entertainment

driven and while the new one is like of

course it’s entertainment it’s a TV show

it’s not just about you know giving

someone a makeover but they’re also

actually talking about important issues

related to race and sexuality and you

know your job and your position in

society and I was quite surprised

pleasantly surprised at how it is a

silly and fun show in some ways but

there’s some depth to it yeah I liked it

it’s Nina the new one yeah I think I’m

on about episode 3 of season 2 mm-hmm

and I agree completely from what I knew

from the old one which I never really

watched my understanding was it was just

making over schlubby guys more or less

and the new season is all about making

these making people better just in all

sorts of ways improving how they take

care of themselves how they treat

themselves and other people like and

they pick people

who are already making an effort to to

improve other people and they are just

giving them a push to bring them even

further along in that process yeah and I

was also surprised at how open the

participants on the show were like it I

found it very interesting that they were

choosing people like then perhaps we

might stereotypically associate as being

very close minded like a guy from like

who’s very active in his church

community but was very welcoming to

people of different backgrounds or like

a police officer so these are kind of

stereotypical I think especially white

men in that area of the US have this

kind of stereotype it’s associated with

being close-minded but the show is

showing well know people can be

open-minded no matter what they look

like or know what their backgrounds are

so and the South is as you said that is

kind of a stereotype that people the

south won’t be accepting of these

certain lifestyles or what have you

and even some of the people that they

help are on the the political spectrum

that you would definitely not expect

them to be accepting of of the Fab five

but what you find is it’s once people

get to know each other and see how the

other person works and how the other

person thinks then they see that all of

our similarities are way more prevalent

than all of our differences yeah that’s

a good show it’s good I really enjoy it

yeah you’re on season 2 season 2 okay

I’m still in season 100 and looking

forward to it so now we do rapid-fire

yes please rapid-fire hint time okay and

I’ll try to make it progressively easier

for you okay

I know almost nothing I thought that was

the point all right something I there

are some clues that will make it very

easy do you want those or do you want me

to build up to them let’s go with the

build up yeah okay there is crime

in this show CSI New York Miami the main

characters know themselves are criminals

si si some with this many middle-aged

guys together committing crimes you

might call it organized crime

uh that one mafia show with the guys

it’s called the shows named after the

heads yes I know

person’s last name I know the soprano

yeah I’ve never seen that show you

should watch it everyone seems to love

it it’s good yeah it’s the polar

opposite of queer eye where you have

these criminals you see that they’re

good in some ways

obviously not good in a lot of ways and

the show really highlights the weakness

inherent in a lot of these people and

instead of making them better you see

then become tragic figures because of

their weaknesses and a lot of the time

that has to do with how close minded

they are and how kind of I don’t know if

ignorance the right word to ever use to

refer to anybody but just there they

have an insular insular meaning it

exists within itself kind of mindset

where they don’t get a lot of feedback

from outside influences so the way they

think to today’s standards seems very

very old-fashioned hmm so it’s not

exactly a feel-good show you don’t watch

that show to feel happy no so what do

you gain from watching the show do you

feel more introspective introspective

meaning like you look at yourself more

closely and into yourself and think

about yourself more or hmm is it purely

entertainment like dramatic

entertainment a bit of a a bit of B it’s

certainly dramatic there’s some tension

and suspense and you do learn to like

these characters despite their flaws and

hope that they’ll improve and end up in

a better situation and it’s TV you know

it’s it’s one of the earlier of the

these high quality shows that would be

considered the television Renaissance

that’s going on right now Sopranos and

then Deadwood and then Breaking Bad and

Mad Men all of these shows brought the

serialized drama format to TV and an

almost like Hollywood quality a film

like quality and Sopranos was one of the

originators of that whole change yeah I

remember when The Sopranos first came

out first became available people were

shocked at the quality and people were

shocked at the the storytelling because

it was so different from

anything that had appeared on TV up

until that point we had lots and lots of

sitcoms like I think it’s like

throughout the 90s it was so many

sitcoms friends and Will and Grace and

Seinfeld and all of these really popular

fun to watch things and the dramas that

were available like I jokingly talked

about CSI as an example it was kind of

very predictable and kind of cookie

cutter in some ways too but then

something like The Sopranos came onto

the scene and it took everybody by storm

meaning took everyone by surprise I

think like viewers yeah just really into

it it seemed like from the beginning

yeah instead of being limited to all the

drama and all the character arcs have to

be confined in one episode you have

seasons that it can sprawl throughout so

you have characters who have arcs that

last over the whole show maybe or over

multiple seasons or just a few episodes

and you have so much creative ability

with storytelling mm-hmm in that way

yeah that’s huge to be able to tell a

story over a long period of time instead

of having 22 minutes of course there is

also an art to telling stories in those

20 minutes and TV overtime really

perfected that model

there’s value in both but the serialized

format just opened the floodgates of the

kinds and the complexity of stories you

can tell and then now we have Game of

Thrones and West world and all these

shows that oh their existence - pretty

much directly Sopranos really so that

was kind of the catalyst the thing that

started it all I would say so

mmm or at least a major factor in that

kind of shift yeah in presentation

mm-hmm exciting yeah I haven’t watched

it have you seen all of it then I’m on

the last season there six seasons okay I

haven’t seen it you should watch it I

hadn’t watched it until this most recent

viewing hmm and everybody talked about

it the way I just did like a hose was

one of the most important TV shows of

all time it’s like I guess I’ll give

this Sopranos thing a shot

I’m hooked now here we are here we are

talking about it good one well thanks

for all the hints those good sorry I

sucked it yeah see you got it that’s the

important part

hey we got their final Hey alright well

those are the last things that we

watched quite different what was the

last thing you watched leave us a

comment and we’ll read it then probably

won’t do much we won’t reply we probably

what we will read it we will read and we

will judge you we will we will we’ll

read your comments on the next episode

and be like look at this look at what

this guy said yeah we do every episode

ends with this oh we forgot to check in

with table yeah what do you think as I

thought desk doesn’t watch TV desk desk

supports TV only all right we’ll finish

that up all right so if you have any