Learn English via Conversation with Barack Obama Bill Gates and Melinda Gates English Subtitles

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you started with as a community

organizer and so and rose to be

president you understand the power of

moving people along even people who

aren’t necessarily on your bus when you

start talk to us a little bit about how

you think of movements around the world

and the power of those now and what

leaders can learn from them well I’d

make a couple of observations number one

is that most big change most human

progress is driven by young people who

don’t know any better and figure why

can’t we do something different

old people get comfortable or cranky or

protective of their status or set in

their ways there is a reason why if you

look at for example here in the United

States the civil rights movement the

leaders of those movements were in their

20s dr. King was 26 when he started 39

when he was killed and if you if you

canvassed the world oftentimes that is

the the impetus people asking in in ways

that I think are familiar to many not

why not but or not why but why not

why do things have to be the way they

are so so that’s point number one that

that young people I think can make an

enormous difference number two is that

because most of us now either live in

democracies or countries that purport to

be democracies because we we have won

the the battle of ideas that says

governments

are our common efforts have to be rooted

in the legitimacy of people there is

more power than ever in people being

able to band together and collectively

push for initiatives that are going to

make change in their lives that’s

something that for most of human history

was unimaginable

that is one of the amazing transitions

that has taken place and you will notice

that even in autocracies today there is

the at least the pretense of democracy

because people believe that governments

that are rooted in people are more

legitimate and we that’s a battle we won

and now have to make real wherever we

can that’s point number two point number

three is simple math in most places if

you want to get something done whether

it’s a smarter climate change policy or

health care for people or more funding

for girls education you’ve got to have a

majority of people supporting it you got

to have votes you have to have the

allocation of resources and that

requires mobilization and a game of

addition rather than subtraction so and

the fourth point I would make would be

the internet now has turbocharged the

capacity for us to develop movements in

ways that we had not imagined before now

the last thing I’ll say so that I don’t

sound like I’m in the still new US

Senate and filibustering is is I guess a

smaller point but a profound one that I

tried to reinforce with my staff at

every level of my public work and and

continue to do to this day

I actually thinks

organizing mobilizing starting movements

starts with a story and you can’t create

a story that moves large numbers of

people unless you are able to listen and

hear to the story of the person next to

you the story of your neighbors the

stories of your co-workers the stories

of your community the story of people

who are not like you and so one of one

of the things that I think is is

important is for us to learn how to

listen to each other and learn how it is

that we came to be who we are think the

way we do because that understanding of

other people’s stories is how you end up

ultimately forging bonds and creating

the glue that creates movements mandi in

India it started with his understanding

of India’s story and his own story and

seeing Indians in South Africa

discriminated against and recognizing

that there were traditions and myths and

a power in those stories that ended up

driving out the most powerful empire on

earth

it wasn’t guns and increasingly that

will be the case and certainly that will

be the case if we’re able if we want to

move forward the sustainable development

goals that we’re talking about is we’ve

got to be able to tell a story not only

to big donors or politicians but also to

for example people here in the United

States who may feel like look I’ve got

my own problems why should I be worrying

about somebody on the other side of the

world you have to say when we got into

philanthropy and particularly studied

global health we were stunned at the

progress we had we’d had no idea

and it’s it’s kind of amazing if you ask

even very well-educated people you know

what’s happened with vaccinations what’s

happened with HIV they don’t know the

the positive story and a little bit the

news is always gonna focus on the

setbacks because that’s what happened

that day the gradual progress doesn’t

fit that paradigm and even people who

raise money for these causes I have to

say you know sometimes even some of the

material we create is talking about the

piece that remains as though it it it’s

never improved do you have any thoughts

on how we get this more positive sense

of progress going and what how we would

get that word out well look you’re

talking to somebody who for seven years

tried to get the word happen and nobody

at least about 40% of country didn’t

believe me

until I was gone and then suddenly they

believed it so with that caveat I’d make

a couple observations one you’re right

bill there is the the nature of the

media and maybe just the human brain is

to fasten on what’s wrong not on what’s

right and I’m not sure we’re gonna be

able to change that right visual

displays of a fire are much more

interesting than just a building sitting

there and so the fire is gonna make the

news the building sitting there nicely

and people are walking their dogs in

front of it and stuff that will not make

the news so so I don’t think that we can

count on conventional media necessarily

to spread the word this is though where

the power of the Internet has not I

think been harnessed the way it needs to

be particularly when we think about

young people and young audiences Malia

and Sasha consume information

differently than I do and I think that

those of us who’ve been involved with

policy work are still putting out these

reports with pie charts and this and

that and that’s not interesting to them

but stories and visual representations

of progress can go viral there’s a

hunger for it it’s just that we don’t

systematically think about it and and so

I think when the three of us we’re

talking a while back I mentioned that

one of the one of the areas that I’m

deeply interested in is how do we build

serve in a digital platform whereby

people can go to find out what’s

happening that is moving the progress on

issues and

then activates them because I heard

somebody I think maybe Trevor saying an

important point one of I’m very

interested in how online communities can

move offline how this incredible power

to convene through hashtags and tweets

and this and then the other eventually

leads to people meeting each other and

talking to each other and I think that

we have not fully tapped that as a way

of spreading the word about progress

that has been made I also think it is

important for us to put some friendly

pressure on leaders to tell good stories

and to make sure that we don’t that we

aren’t so rigid in our partisanship or

ideologies that we are not willing to

acknowledge and share when somebody who

might be of a different political

persuasion has done something really

good even if it runs contrary to our

short-term political interests I mean I

always used to say as as big as the

differences were between me and my

president predecessor George W Bush that

what his administration initiated with

PEPFAR was a singularly important

achievement that we needed to sustain

and build on and I didn’t think that

somehow had attracted for me to say that

somebody from another political party

did something really smart and really

good and deserve credit for it and and

and I feel as if these days with within

our political circles that’s a hard

thing for people to bring themselves to

do

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one of the things that bill and I had

the great privilege of doing when you

were in the White House late in your

presidency was spending a little bit of

casual time on a Saturday night and your

daughters were in and out of your home

Willie and Sasha and you’ve been to our

house earlier this summer and saw Rory

and Phoebe two of our three in and out

of our house our daughter Jen is here in

the front row

tell me about Jen’s like thanks mom

that’s our job to embarrass you that’s

what we do job done right there but you

know

Jen’s about the age of your girls a

little bit older but how have you and

Michelle thought about talking to your

children about being leaders in the

world and taking up this mantle of what

needs to be done in the world well it

what we’ve tried to communicate their

entire lives is that each of us has

responsibilities when they were small

the responsibilities were small my say

when you want to go potty and then as

you get older your responsibilities grow

and and but but part of what we I think

try to communicate is is that being

responsible is an enormous privilege

that’s what marks you as a fully grown

human is that you that other people rely

on you that you have influence that you

can make your mark that if you do

something well that that will improve

other people’s lives that the kinds of

values that we’ve tried to instill many

of them your basic homespun values like

kindness and consideration and empathy

and hard work that those are our tools

by which you can

shape the world around you in a way that

feels good and so what we’ve what we’ve

tried to encourage is that the sense

that it’s not somebody else’s job it’s

your job and I think that is that that’s

a epic that they’ve embraced now they

will choose to participate in in

different ways because they have

different temperaments and different

strengths I think one of the mistakes

that we sometimes make is to think that

there’s just one way of making a

difference or being involved you know if

you are a brilliant engineer you don’t

have to make a speech you can create an

app that allows an amplification or the

scaling up of some something that is

really powerful if you are somebody who

likes to care for people you you don’t

have to go out and lead the protest

march you can mentor some kids or work

at a at a local health clinic that is

going to make a difference so there are

a lot of different ways in which to make

a contribution and we try to emphasize

that that to them as well and then the

third thing that we try to try to

encourage is what I mentioned in my

earlier remarks which is that you have

to be persistent I I always tell people

that my early work as a community

organizer in Chicago taught me an

incredible amount but I didn’t set the

world on fire you know I got some public

parks for communities that needed them I

started some after-school programs we

we helped set up a job training program

for people who had been laid off of work

but that those communities weren’t

suddenly transformed that they still had

huge problems but I took that experience

and then I was able to build on it and I

think so often we get impatient because

change does not look as if sometimes

it’s not as discernable or mediate or

impactful as we had imagined in our in

our minds and we get disappointed and we

get frustrated and for for me by the way

that’s advice in life and not just in

social change I assume occasionally

there was a bug in the software

Melvyn every now and then every once in

a while you know and how we got a patch

it again this is this is annoying but

but that’s how I was I wasn’t known for

my patience bill did you have one yeah

so this week at part of the reason we’re

all in New York was the United Nations

is meeting and you know some of these

global institutions were created right

after World War two World Bank World

Health Organization UNICEF they’ve been

key partners for many of these causes

and yet there is definitely a cynicism

about their bureaucracy their efficiency

and their ability to change in fact very

few exceptions like Global Fund and

gobby we haven’t had any new one so over

the next 10 or 20 years do you think

these global institutions in terms of

reform or creating new ones it for

pandemics and climate change can they

step up to play the role we need them to

play well let me first of all say that

the biggest problems we confront

no one nation is going to be able to

solve on its own not even a nation as

powerful as the United States of America

there are times during my presidency

where I was attacked for not claiming

that we could go on our own as if that

was an expression of weakness no I I

believe that the United States is in

fact an indispensable nation and that

many of the initiatives and much of the

progress that we’ve made could not have

been done unless we underwrote those

efforts and I’ll use as an example of

our handling of Ebola which in

retrospect I think a lot of historians

would argue was one of the if not the

most effective emergency public health

intervention in history we we had to

create the architecture and the

infrastructure and send our military in

to create runways where the Chinese

could then land planes to deliver goods

and we had to provide guarantees to the

Europeans so that if they sent health

workers they could feel some assurance

that they could be medevacked out if

they got infected so so so I take great

pride in what the United States can do

but if we’re talking about climate

change or global migration spurred on by

drought or famine or you know ethnic

conflicts we’re not gonna be able to

solve those things by ourselves and as

you as you indicated don’t some if we

get an airborne pandemic

unlike a slow-moving slow disease it’s

difficult to transmit like Ebola if we

haven’t built ahead of time some some

structures to deal with this millions of

people could be adversely impacted so so

number one you have to start with the

premise and believe that multilateral

institutions and efforts are important

and you don’t have to cede all your

sovereignty or it doesn’t make you less

patriotic to believe that you just have

to have some sense and read so that’s

point number one point number two is

that in fact there are problems with

existing multilateral institutions not

surprisingly they were designed

post-world War two for the most part and

they couldn’t have anticipated

everything that’s happened there is

bureaucracy and inertia and resistance

to reform so it is important for every

country every leader to be honest about

the need for reform and not simply think

narrowly about well I want to keep

certain numbers of slots or votes or

this or that

at least on many of the issues where

there shouldn’t be a big ideological

controversy look reforming the Security

Council that’s something that goes to

core geopolitical interests and is a

huge difficult and perhaps unachievable

goal any time soon on the other hand

making sure that the WHL works well and

that we have a sufficient security

trigger when a pandemic or something

else happens that is achievable and it

shouldn’t be controversial it’s just a

matter of digging in and getting the

work done

what

comes to girls education there may be

cultural resistance in some places to

actually getting it done but generally

speaking there’s not a there aren’t that

many folks who will explicitly say I’m

sorry we don’t want to educate our girls

and women as a practical matter they may

you may see that in in certain countries

but at the level of our multilateral

institutions there should be a broad

consensus and so what what I would hope

for is that we come up with concrete

plans in those areas oftentimes with

respect to the the sustainable

development goals our areas where there

is a consensus on at least the aims if

not always the means and think about how

can we improve delivery systems how can

we improve their operations on a day to

day basis but ultimately the last point

I would make that requires leaders to

feel as if it matters and is important

that in turn requires the public think

that it matters and is important because

unfortunately what you discover is is

that most politicians and elected

leaders are followers and not leaders

they they’re called leaders but most of

the time they follow they they see what

do their constituencies care about and

they respond and one of the biggest

challenges that we’ve had is that and I

speak most intimately by the United

States the general public responds with

enormous generosity when they see a

specific story of a child who’s hungry

or somebody who’s been stricken by you

know a flood but when it comes to just a

general knowledge or interest in

development funding not only the

not know much but they oftentimes have a

negative reaction because their view is

we’ve got a lot of needs here at home

why are we sending money overseas sadly

it is one of the area’s the only areas

where Democrats and Republicans agree in

this in the United States is on foreign

aid and repeatedly you’ve seen public

opinion surveys where people wildly

overestimate what we spend on foreign

aid they think 25 percent of the federal

budget is going to foreign aid and

helping people other than folks in their

towns and their communities so the need

for public education in the ways we

talked about that promote that that tell

a good story that point out that this is

actually a bargain that connect what we

do with respect to development to

security not in in a perfect correlation

but to say that look if you’ve got

failed States then generally some of

that’s gonna spill over on us if you

have economies that are failing

ironically if you are concerned about

immigration and mass migration it’s

really a good investment to make

countries work so that people can eat

because then it’s not like they’re dying

to get on a dinghy and float across an

ocean if the place the country were they

were born and they loved was functioning

so so thinking about ways in which we

describe this both as an economic

imperative a environmental imperative a

security imperative the more we can

influence public opinion the more you’ll

see politicians respond that doesn’t

mean that there is not an enormous role

to play for NGOs philanthropy and so

forth but and I’ve said this to both

Bill and Melinda

even with the incredible generosity and

enormous skill with which they’ve

deployed their their resources over the

years the u.s. budgets still bigger a

lot and you know you there’s this notion

that you can that I hear sometimes from

young people that you can work around

government and work around politics

because it’s too messy or it’s corrupt

or it’s you know I just don’t like those

folks or what-have-you

I’m sorry guys that’s not gonna work if

you want to get done what you’re talking

about you will have to combine effective

philanthropy and technical know-how and

you know smart policy engineering with

getting your hands dirty trying to

change public opinion and trying to

ensure that the people who are in charge

of the levers of power are responsive

and and that will require work and I

guarantee you you will be disappointed

at points but what a glorious thing it

is to be responsible for saving the

world that’s your responsibility that

arm thanks

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你最初是一名社区

组织者,后来升任

总统,

当你

开始和我们谈谈

你对运动的看法时,你明白即使是那些不一定在你的公共汽车上的人也能推动人们前进的力量 世界各地

的人们现在的力量

以及领导者可以从他们

身上学到什么

难道我们不能做一些不同的

老人感到舒服或暴躁或

保护自己的地位或以

自己的方式行事吗?如果你

看一下

美国的民权运动

,这些运动的领导人所参加的运动,这是有原因的 他们

20 多岁的博士。 金在他被杀时 39 岁开始时是 26 岁

,如果你

经常巡视世界,这就是

人们以我认为许多人熟悉的方式提问的动力

,不是为什么不,而是为什么,但为什么不

为什么做事情 必须是他们的样子

,所以这是第一点,

我认为年轻人可以产生

巨大的影响第二点是

因为我们大多数人现在要么生活在

民主国家,要么生活在声称是民主国家的国家,

因为我们赢得

了 说

政府

是我们共同的努力的思想之争必须植根

于人们的合法性人们

比以往任何时候都更有力量

能够团结起来共同

推动

将改变他们生活

的举措 因为人类历史的大部分时间

是无法想象的

,这是已经发生的惊人转变之一

,你会注意到

,即使在今天的专制

国家中,至少也有 民主,

因为人们

相信植根于人民的政府更

合法,这是一场我们赢得的战斗

,现在必须尽我们

所能实现第二点

第三点在大多数地方都是简单的数学,如果

你想完成某事

无论是更明智的气候变化政策,还是

人们的医疗保健,还是为女童教育提供更多资金

,你必须有

大多数人支持你

必须有选票你必须

有资源分配,这

需要动员和游戏

加法而不是减法所以

我要说的第四点

是互联网现在已经增强了

我们以

我们以前从未想象过的方式发展运动的能力

我要说的最后一件事是我不

听 就像我在新的美国

参议院和阻挠议事一样,我想这是一个

较小但意义深远的问题,我

试图在我的公共工作的各个层面与我的工作人员一起加强它

,并且

一直做到今天

我实际上认为

组织动员起始动作

从一个故事开始,

除非你能够倾听和

听到你旁边的人的故事,否则

你无法创造一个感动大量人的故事 你的邻居的

故事 你的同事的

故事 你的社区的故事

不像你的人的故事 所以

我认为重要的一件事

就是让我们学会

如何互相倾听和

了解我们是如何成为我们所想的

那样的人,因为对

他人故事的理解是你最终如何

建立纽带并创造

出在印度创造运动的粘合剂 mandi

它始于他

对印度故事的理解 和他自己的故事,

看到南非的印第安人

受到歧视,并认识

到这些故事中有传统、神话

和力量,最终

驱逐了最强大的帝国

地球不是枪支,而且越来越多

的情况将

如此,如果我们能够

推进

我们正在谈论的可持续发展目标,那么情况肯定会如此,我们

必须能够 不仅

要向大捐助者或政治家讲故事,还要向

美国的

人们讲故事 比如说当我们进入

慈善事业,特别是研究

全球健康时,

我们对我们所取得的进展感到震惊,我们不知道

,如果你问

即使是受过良好教育的人,你

知道疫苗发生了什么

,艾滋病毒发生了什么,这真是太神奇了 他们不

知道积极的故事,而且

新闻总是会关注

挫折,因为那天发生的事情

就是渐进式的进步不

符合那种范式,甚至那些

为这些事业筹集资金的人我有

说你知道有时甚至

我们创造的一些材料都在谈论这

件作品,就好像它

从未改进过

看起来你正在

和一个七年来一直

试图让这个词发生的人交谈,在我离开之前,没有人

至少有大约 40% 的国家不

相信我

,然后突然他们

相信了,所以有了这个警告,我会

做一些观察你是对的,

这是媒体的本质

,也许只是人类的大脑

会关注错误而不是

正确,我不确定我们是否

能够改变这种权利

火灾的视觉展示

比只是坐在那里的建筑物更有趣

,所以火灾会成为

新闻,建筑物坐在那里很好

,人们在

它前面遛狗以及不会

成为新闻的东西所以我 不要认为 我们可以

依靠传统媒体

来传播这个词,尽管

我认为互联网的力量还没有

得到

应有的利用,特别是当我们考虑到

年轻人和年轻观众时,Malia

和 Sasha 以

不同的方式消费信息 我愿意,而且我认为

我们这些参与

政策工作的人仍在发布这些

带有饼图的报告,这个

那个,那个对他们来说并不有趣,

但是故事和

进步的视觉表现可以像病毒一样传播,人们

渴望 只是我们没有

系统地考虑它,所以

我想当我们三个人在

不久前谈论的时候,我

提到我

非常感兴趣的领域之一是我们如何

在数字平台上构建服务,

人们可以通过该平台了解

正在推动问题进展的正在发生的事情,

然后激活它们,因为我听到

有人我认为可能是 Trevor 说重要

我非常感兴趣的一点是,

在线社区

如何移动到线

下 没有充分利用

这一点来宣传已经取得的进展

我们的党派偏见或意识形态如此僵化,

以至于

当一个

可能具有不同政治

信仰的人做了一件非常好的事情,

即使它违背了我们

的短期政治利益,我们也不愿意承认和分享我的意思是我

总是说 尽管

我和我的

前任总统乔治·W·布什之间的分歧很大,但

他的政府发起的

PEPFAR 是一项非常重要的

成就,我们需要继续努力 污点

和继续,我不认为以

某种方式吸引我说

来自另一个政党的人

做了一些非常聪明和非常

好的事情,值得称赞,

而且我觉得这些天好像在

我们的政治圈子里 这

对人们来说是一件很难的事情

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当你在总统任期后期进入白宫时,比尔和我有幸做的一件事

就是花一点

休闲时间 在一个星期六的晚上,你的

女儿进出你的家

威利和萨莎,

今年夏天早些时候你去过我们家,看到

我们三个人中的罗里和菲比两个

进出我们家,我们的女儿珍在

这里 前排

告诉我珍喜欢谢谢妈妈

这是我们的工作让你难堪这

就是我们在那里所做的工作但你

知道

珍的关于你的女孩的年龄

有点大但是你和

米歇尔是如何考虑与 你的

孩子们关于成为

世界的领导者并承担起世界上

需要做的事情的斗篷好吧,

我们一生都试图传达的

是,我们每个人

在他们小的时候都有责任

,责任很小,我的 说

当你想上厕所,然后随着

年龄的增长,你的责任会增加

,但是我认为我们

试图传达的部分内容是,

负责任是一种巨大的特权

,这就是你作为一个完全成熟的

人的标志是你 其他人

依赖你 你有影响力 你

可以留下自己的印记 如果

你做得好,那将改善

其他人的生活

我们试图向

他们中的许多人灌输的价值观 你的基本朴素价值观,比如

善良 考虑、同理心

和辛勤工作,这些是我们的

工具,您可以通过这些工具

以一种感觉良好的方式塑造您周围的世界

,所以我们

试图鼓励的是 感觉

这不是别人的工作,而是

你的工作,我认为那是

他们现在已经接受的史诗,他们

将选择以

不同的方式参与,因为他们有

不同的气质和不同的

优势我认为其中一个错误

我们有时会认为

只有一种方式可以发挥

作用或

参与 一些

非常强大的东西 如果你是一个

喜欢照顾人的人 你

不必出去领导抗议

游行 你可以指导一些孩子或

在当地的健康诊所

工作 所以

有很多不同的方式可以

做出贡献,我们也试图

向他们强调这一点,然后

我们试图鼓励的第三件事

就是我在

之前的 rema 中提到的 rks 那就是你

必须坚持不懈我总是告诉人们

,我早期

在芝加哥作为社区组织者的工作教会了我很多东西,

但我没有让

世界着火你知道我

为需要它们的社区提供了一些公园 我

开始了一些课后计划,

我们帮助

为那些下岗的人建立了一个职业培训计划,

但这些社区并没有

突然转变,他们仍然存在

巨大的问题,但我吸取了这些经验

,然后我能够 在此基础上再接再厉,我

认为我们经常不耐烦,因为

变化看起来

并不像我们在脑海中想象的那样可辨别、具有中介性或

影响力

,我们会感到失望,我们

会感到沮丧,对我来说

这是生活中的建议,而不仅仅是社会变革中的建议

我假设偶尔

会在软件中出现错误

Melvyn 每

隔一段时间你知道,我们如何再次获得补丁

,这就是 s 很烦人,

但这就是

我的样子

全球机构是

在第二次世界大战后成立的 世界银行

世界卫生组织 联合国儿童基金会 他们一直是

其中许多事业的主要合作伙伴

,但

对于他们的官僚作风、效率

和改变的能力,人们肯定持怀疑态度,事实上

很少有像全球这样的例外 基金和

虾虎鱼我们没有任何新的,所以

在接下来的 10 或 20 年里,您认为

这些全球机构在

改革或创建新机构方面是否能够

应对流行病和气候变化,它们能否

加紧发挥我们需要的作用?

发挥好我首先要说的是

,我们面临的最大问题

没有任何一个国家能够

靠自己的力量解决,即使是

像美利坚合众国这样强大的国家,

在我担任主席期间有时

我曾因为没有

声称我们可以独自前进而受到攻击,好像那

是一种软弱的表现。我

相信美国

实际上是一个不可或缺的国家,而且我们的

许多倡议和大部分

进展都是如此。

除非我们承担这些努力,否则我们不可能做到这一点

,我将以此作为

我们处理埃博拉病毒的一个例子,

回想起来,我认为很多历史学家

会争辩说,如果不是

最有效的紧急公共卫生

干预措施之一, 历史 我们必须

建造建筑和

基础设施,派我们的军队

去建造跑道,然后中国人可以在那里

降落飞机运送货物

,我们必须向欧洲人提供保证,

这样如果他们派出卫生

工作者,他们就能感觉到一些保证

如果他们被感染,他们可能会被救出,

所以我

为美国能做的事情感到非常自豪,

但如果我们谈论的是气候

变化或全球移民 在

干旱或饥荒的刺激下,或者您知道种族

冲突,我们将无法

靠自己解决这些问题,

正如您所指出的那样,如果我们

遇到空气传播的流行病,

而不是缓慢传播的缓慢疾病,这很

困难 像埃博拉一样传播,如果我们

没有提前建立一些

应对数百万人的结构

可能会受到不利影响,

所以第一,你必须从

前提开始,相信多边

机构和努力很重要

,你不 不必放弃你所有的

主权,或者

相信你只需

要有一些理智和阅读,这不会让你不那么爱国,所以

第一点第二点是

,事实上

现有的多边机构存在问题,这不足为奇

它们大部分是在第二次世界大战后设计的,

他们无法预料

到发生的一切,那里有

官僚主义、惯性和

对改革的抵制,所以这是小鬼 对每个

国家来说,每个领导人都要诚实地

对待改革的必要性,而不是简单

地考虑

好问题 意识形态

争议看起来是改革

安理会,这事关

核心地缘政治利益,是一个

巨大的困难并且可能在短期内无法实现的

目标,另一方面

要确保 WHL 运作良好,

并且我们有足够的安全

触发机制来应对大流行或 发生的

其他事情是可以实现的,

不应该引起争议,这只是

深入研究并完成工作的问题

关于女孩教育,

在某些地方可能存在文化阻力,无法

真正完成,但

一般来说没有 是不是有

很多人会明确地说

对不起,我们不想教育我们

的女孩和女人,因为他们可能

会 可能会看到,在某些国家,

但在我们的多边机构层面,

应该有广泛的

共识,所以我

希望我们

经常在这些领域

就我们的可持续

发展目标提出具体计划

至少在目标上达成共识的领域,如果

不总是手段和思考

我们如何改进交付系统

我们如何改进他们的日常运营,

但最终

我要说的最后一点需要领导者

感受 好像它很重要很重要

,反过来又要求公众

认为它很重要,因为

不幸的是,您

发现大多数政治家和民选

领导人都是追随者而不是领导者

,他们被称为领导者,但

大多数时候他们 跟随他们,他们看到

他们的支持者关心什么,

他们做出回应

,我们遇到的最大挑战之一就是,我

说的是最内层

当普通公众

看到一个

饥饿的孩子

或被洪水袭击的

人的具体故事时,公众会以极大的慷慨作出回应,但当涉及到

一般知识或对发展资金感兴趣时,

不仅

了解不多,但他们经常有

负面反应,因为他们的观点是

我们在国内有很多需求

为什么我们要向海外汇款 遗憾的

是,这是该地区仅有

的民主党和共和党在这方面达成一致的领域

之一 美国在对外

援助上,你反复看到

民意调查显示,人们大大

高估了我们在外援上的花费,

他们认为 25% 的联邦

预算用于外援并

帮助他们

城镇和社区中的人以外的人 所以

我们谈到的公共教育的必要性 促进

讲好故事 指出这

实际上是一个讨价还价 ct

我们在发展与安全方面所做的事情

并不是完全相关的,

而是说如果你有

失败的国家,那么

如果你

有讽刺意味地失败的经济体,

如果你担心的话,一般来说,其中一些会溢出到我们身上 关于

移民和大规模移民,这

确实是一项很好的投资,可以让

国家运转起来,让人们可以吃东西,

因为如果这个国家是他们出生和热爱的地方,他们就不会

渴望登上小艇并漂浮在

海洋中

运作

如此如此思考我们如何将其

描述为经济

需要 环境需要

安全需要 我们

对公众舆论的影响越多,你会

看到政治家的回应越多,这并不

意味着没有巨大的作用

为非政府组织的慈善事业

等活动,但我已经对比尔和梅琳达说过这件事,

即使他们已经部署了令人难以置信的慷慨和

巨大的技能

他们

多年来的资源 美国 预算仍然

大得多,你知道你有一个想法

,你可以,我有时从年轻人那里听到

,你可以在

政府和政治周围工作,

因为它太混乱或腐败,

或者你知道我只是不喜欢那些

伙计们,或者你有什么,

对不起,如果

你想完成你所说的事情,那是

行不通的 肮脏的试图

改变公众舆论并试图

确保

负责权力杠杆的人反应灵敏

,这将需要工作,我向

你保证你会在某些方面感到失望

,但负责任是一件多么光荣的事情

拯救

世界是你的责任,那只

手臂感谢

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