We can fight terror without sacrificing our rights Rebecca MacKinnon

There’s a big question
at the center of life

in our democracies today:

How do we fight terror
without destroying democracies,

without trampling human rights?

I’ve spent much of my career
working with journalists,

with bloggers,

with activists,

with human rights researchers
all around the world,

and I’ve come to the conclusion

that if our democratic societies
do not double down

on protecting and defending human rights,

freedom of the press

and a free and open internet,

radical extremist ideologies
are much more likely to persist.

(Applause)

OK, all done. Thank you very much.

No, just joking.

(Laughter)

I actually want to drill down
on this a little bit.

So, one of the countries that has been
on the frontlines of this issue

is Tunisia,

which was the only country
to come out of the Arab Spring

with a successful democratic revolution.

Five years later,

they’re struggling
with serious terror attacks

and rampant ISIS recruitment.

And many Tunisians
are calling on their government

to do whatever it takes to keep them safe.

Tunisian cartoonist Nadia Khiari

has summed up the situation
with this character who says,

“I don’t give a damn about human rights.

I don’t give a damn about the revolution.

I don’t give a damn
about democracy and liberty.

I just want to be safe.”

“Satisfied?” asked his jailer.

“You’re safe now.”

If the Tunisian people can figure out

how to deal with their terrorism problem

without ending up in this place,

they will be a model
not only for their region,

but for all of us.

The reality is that civil society,
journalists and activists

are coming under attack
from extremist groups on the one hand,

and, in many countries,

also from their own governments.

We’re seeing bloggers
and journalists being jailed,

charged and intimidated

by their own governments,

many of which are allies
with the West in the war on terror.

Just three examples.

A friend and former colleague of mine,

Hisham Almiraat,

has been charged
with threatening state security,

along with six other activists in Morocco.

The Saudi blogger Raif Badawi
has been jailed and flogged

for insulting Islam and criticizing
the Saudi regime on his blog.

More recently, the Turkish representative
for Reporters Without Borders,

Erol Önderoglu,

has been detained and charged
with spreading terrorist propaganda,

because he and some other activists
have been supporting Kurdish media.

Anti-terror measures
quickly turn into state repression

without strong protection
for minority communities

and for peaceful debate;

this needs to be supported
by a robust, independent local media.

But while that’s not really happening,

Washington is teaming up
with Silicon Valley and with Hollywood

to pour millions – hundreds
of millions of dollars –

into what’s called “counter-messaging,”

a fancy word for propaganda.

To counter the terrorist propaganda
spreading all over the internet,

in Europe, Internet Referral
Units are being set up,

so that people can report
on extremist content that they find

and get it censored.

The problem is,

that all of this propaganda,
monitoring and censorship

completely fails to make up for the fact

that the people who are
the most credible voices,

who can present credible ideas
and alternative solutions

to real economic, social and political
problems in their community

that are causing people to turn
to extremism in the first place,

are being silenced
by their own governments.

This is all adding up to a decrease
in freedom across the world.

Freedom House,

the human rights organization,

reports that 2015 marks
the 10th straight year in a row

of decline in freedom worldwide.

And this is not just
because of the actions

of authoritarian governments.

It’s also because democratic governments

are increasingly cracking
down on dissenters,

whistle-blowers

and investigative journalists.

UN Secretary General
Ban Ki-Moon has warned

that “preventing extremism and promoting
human rights go hand-in-hand.”

It’s not to say that governments
shouldn’t keep us safe –

of course they should –

but we need public oversight, transparency

and accountability to the rule of law.

Meanwhile,

extremists are literally killing off
civil society in some countries.

Since 2013 in Bangladesh,

over a dozen secular bloggers
and community activists

have been literally
slaughtered by extremists

while the government has done very little.

From the city of Raqqa in Syria,

people like Ruqia Hassan and Naji Jerf
have been assassinated

for their reporting
out of ISIS-controlled territory.

The citizen media group called
Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently

relies on strong encryption
to send out their reports

and shield themselves
from interception and surveillance.

Yet authorities in countries
like the United States,

the United Kingdom
and many other democracies

are seeking to use the law

to either weaken or outright ban
strong encryption,

because the bad guys are using it, too.

We have got to fight for the right
of citizens to use strong encryption.

Otherwise, dissent
and investigative journalism

are going to become even more difficult

in even more places.

And the bad guys – the criminals
and terrorists –

are still going to find
ways to communicate.

Kudos to the companies
that are standing up

for their users' right to use encryption.

But when it comes to censorship,

the picture is much more troubling.

Yes, there’s a real problem

of extremist content
spreading all over the internet.

And Facebook, YouTube and Twitter
are among the many companies

who report having taken down hundreds
of thousands of pieces of content

and deactivating accounts

that are connected
to the extremist’s speech.

The problem is their enforcement
mechanisms are a complete black box,

and there is collateral damage.

Take, for example, Iyad el-Baghdadi,

an activist who makes fun
of ISIS on Twitter.

He had his account deactivated,

because he shares a surname
with a prominent ISIS leader.

Last December,

a number of women named Isis,

which also happens to be
the name of an Egyptian goddess,

had their accounts deactivated.

And this woman,

who lives in the United States
and is a computer programmer,

reported on Twitter
about her deactivation on Facebook,

managed to get enough media attention
to have her account reinstated.

But that’s the thing –
she had to get media attention.

And journalists aren’t immune.

David Thomson,

an expert on terrorism and reporter
for Radio France International,

had reports deleted
from his Facebook account

and had his account
deactivated for several days,

because they contained
pictures of ISIS flags,

even though he was just reporting on ISIS,

not promoting it.

And then we have stories from people
like this Egyptian man,

Ahmed Abdellahy,

who reported recently in an event
in Washington DC

that some of his arguments
with extremists –

he now spends his time on social media
arguing with ISIS followers,

trying to get them to turn away –

some of his arguments
with these extremists get deleted,

which he believes has the effect
of shielding them

from alternative points of view.

It’s unclear whether Facebook
even knows the extent

of the collateral damage,

or the other companies as well.

But we do know that journalism,
activism and public debate

are being silenced in the effort
to stamp out extremist speech.

So with these companies having so much
power over the public discourse,

they need to be held accountable.

They need to carry out impact assessment

to identify and fix the problems
that we’re clearly seeing.

They need to be more transparent
about their enforcement mechanisms,

and they need to have clear
appeal and grievance mechanisms,

so people can get
their content reinstated.

Now, I’ve been talking
for the last 10 minutes

about how governments and companies
are making it more difficult

for people like these.

This is a picture of members
of the citizen media network,

Global Voices,

that I helped to cofound over 10 years ago

with my friend, Ethan Zuckerman.

Interestingly, about 5 years ago,
right after the Arab Spring,

the data scientist Gilad Lotan

created a network map
of the people in Global Voices

who were heavy users of Twitter
during the Arab Spring.

And he found that many of these people
served as key information nodes

between activists and journalists

throughout the Tunisian
and Egyptian revolution.

We’ve got to make sure
that these people not only survive,

but are able to continue to thrive.

Many of them are still active,

other than the ones who have gone to jail

or have been driven into hiding or exile.

All around the world,

people who are sick and tired
of fear and oppression

are linking up in their communities
and across borders.

We’ve got to do everything we can
to push our governments and companies

to do a better job
of protecting their rights.

We’ve also got to be more mindful

about how our own personal, political,
consumer and business choices

affect people like these around the world.

Also, if you follow the news,

it’s pretty clear that that alone
isn’t going to be enough.

We’ve got to take personal
responsibility by joining –

or at very least, actively supporting –

the growing ecosystem
of individuals and groups

who are fighting for social justice,

environmental sustainability,

government accountability,

human rights, freedom of the press

and a free and open internet,

all around the world.

I believe that, ultimately,
we can overcome

the digitally empowered networks
of extremism, demagoguery and hate.

But …

we’ve got to do this by really
beefing up the global networks

of citizens around the world,

powered by people
who are working hard every day,

and taking personal risk

for a future world that is more
peaceful, just, open and free.

Thanks very much for listening.

(Applause)

今天我们民主国家的生活中心有一个大问题:

我们如何在
不破坏民主国家、

不践踏人权的情况下打击恐怖主义?

我的大部分职业生涯
都与记者

、博客作者

、活动家、世界各地

的人权研究人员一起工作

,我得出的结论

是,如果我们的民主社会
不加倍

努力保护和捍卫人权 ,

新闻自由

和自由开放的互联网,

激进的极端主义意识形态
更有可能持续存在。

(掌声)

好的,全部完成。 非常感谢你。

不,只是开玩笑。

(笑声)

我实际上想深入
研究一下。

因此,
在这个问题上一直处于前沿的国家之一

是突尼斯,

它是唯一
一个从阿拉伯之春中走出来

并成功实现民主革命的国家。

五年后,

他们正
与严重的恐怖袭击

和猖獗的 ISIS 招募作斗争。

许多
突尼斯人呼吁他们的政府

不惜一切代价保护他们的安全。

突尼斯漫画家 Nadia

Khiari 用这个角色总结了这种情况
,他说:

“我不在乎人权。

我不在乎革命。


不在乎民主和自由。

我只想安全。”

“使满意?” 狱卒问道。

“你现在安全了。”

如果突尼斯人民能够弄清楚

如何处理他们的恐怖主义问题

而不是在这个地方结束,

他们将
不仅成为他们所在地区的榜样,

而且成为我们所有人的榜样。

现实情况是,民间社会、
记者和活动人士

一方面受到极端主义团体的攻击

,在许多国家,

也受到本国政府的攻击。

我们看到博客作者
和记者被他们自己的政府监禁、

指控和恐吓

其中许多是
在反恐战争中与西方结盟的国家。

举三个例子。

我的一位朋友和前同事

Hisham Almiraat

与摩洛哥的其他六名活动家一起被指控威胁国家安全。

沙特博主 Raif Badawi

在其博客上侮辱伊斯兰教和批评沙特政权而被判入狱和鞭笞。

最近
,无国界记者组织的土耳其代表

Erol

Önderoglu 被拘留并被
指控传播恐怖主义宣传,

因为他和其他一些活动家
一直在支持库尔德媒体。

反恐措施
很快变成了国家镇压,

没有
对少数民族社区

和和平辩论提供强有力的保护;

这需要
强大、独立的当地媒体的支持。

但是,虽然这并没有真正发生,但

华盛顿正在
与硅谷和好莱坞合作,

投入数百万——
数亿美元——

用于所谓的“反信息”,

这是宣传的花哨词。

为了对抗在
互联网上蔓延的恐怖主义宣传,

在欧洲,正在建立互联网转介
单位,

以便人们可以报告
他们发现的极端主义内容

并对其进行审查。

问题是

,所有这些宣传、
监控和审查

完全无法弥补这样一个事实


即最可信的声音

、能够

为社区中的实际经济、社会和政治
问题提出可信的想法和替代解决方案的人

那些首先导致人们
转向极端主义的人,

正在
被他们自己的政府噤声。

这一切都
导致全世界自由的减少。 人权组织

自由之家

报告称,2015
年是全球自由度连续第 10 年

下降。

这不仅仅是
因为

威权政府的行为。

这也是因为民主

政府越来越多地
打击持不同政见者、

举报人

和调查记者。

联合国
秘书长潘基文警告

说,“防止极端主义和促进
人权齐头并进”。

这并不是说政府
不应该保证我们的安全

——当然他们应该——

但我们需要公众监督、透明度

和对法治负责。

与此同时,

极端分子实际上正在扼杀
一些国家的民间社会。

自 2013 年以来,在孟加拉国,

十多名世俗博
主和社区活动家

实际上
遭到极端分子的屠杀,

而政府几乎没有采取任何行动。

来自叙利亚的拉卡市

,像鲁恰哈桑和纳吉杰夫
这样的人


在 ISIS 控制的领土外进行报道而被暗杀。

名为“Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently”的公民媒体组织

依靠强大的加密技术
来发送他们的报告

并保护自己
免受拦截和监视。

然而,
美国

、英国
和许多其他民主国家的当局

正在寻求利用法律

来削弱或彻底禁止
强加密,

因为坏人也在使用它。

我们必须争取
公民使用强加密的权利。

否则,异议
和调查性

新闻将在更多地方变得更加困难

而坏人——罪犯
和恐怖分子——

仍然会
想方设法沟通。


那些

为用户使用加密的权利挺身而出的公司表示敬意。

但谈到审查制度

,情况就更令人不安了。

是的,

极端主义内容
在互联网上传播是一个真正的问题。

Facebook、YouTube 和
Twitter 等众多

公司报告称,他们已经删除了
数十万条内容,

并停用

了与极端分子言论有关的账户。

问题是他们的执行
机制是一个完整的黑匣子,

并且存在附带损害。

以 Iyad el-Baghdadi 为例,

他是一位
在 Twitter 上取笑 ISIS 的活动家。

他的账户被停用,

因为他
与一位著名的 ISIS 领导人同姓。

去年 12 月

,一些名叫伊希斯的女性(

也恰好
是埃及女神的名字)被

停用了账户。

这位住在
美国的计算机程序员

在 Twitter 上报道
了她在 Facebook 上被停用的消息,并

设法获得了足够的媒体关注
以恢复她的帐户。

但事情就是这样——
她必须引起媒体的关注。

记者也不能幸免。

恐怖主义专家兼
法国国际广播电台记者大卫汤姆森

的报道
从他的 Facebook 帐户中删除,

并且他的帐户被
停用了几天,

因为其中包含
ISIS 旗帜的图片,

尽管他只是在报道 ISIS,

而不是宣传它 .

然后我们有来自埃及人

艾哈迈德·阿卜杜拉希(Ahmed Abdellahy)等人的故事,

他最近
在华盛顿特区的一次活动中

报道了他
与极端分子的一些争论——

他现在花时间在社交媒体上
与 ISIS 追随者争论,

试图让他们 转身——


与这些极端分子的一些论点被删除

,他认为这
具有保护他们

免受不同观点的影响。

目前尚不清楚 Facebook 是否
知道

附带损害的程度,

或者其他公司是否也知道。

但我们确实知道,为了消除极端主义言论,新闻业、
激进主义和公共辩论

正在被压制

因此,由于这些公司对公共话语拥有如此大的
权力,

他们需要承担责任。

他们需要进行影响评估,

以识别和
解决我们清楚地看到的问题。

他们需要对其执行机制更加透明

,他们需要有明确的
申诉和申诉机制,

这样人们才能
恢复他们的内容。

现在,
在过去的 10 分钟里,我一直在

谈论政府和公司
如何让

这些人变得更加困难。

这是
公民媒体网络

Global Voices 成员的照片

,我在 10 多年前

与我的朋友 Ethan Zuckerman 共同创建了这张照片。

有趣的是,大约 5 年前,
就在阿拉伯之春之后

,数据科学家 Gilad Lotan

创建了一张
全球之声的网络地图,这些人在阿拉伯之春期间

是 Twitter 的重度用户

他发现,在整个突尼斯和埃及革命期间,这些人中的许多人
充当了

活动家和记者之间的关键信息节点

我们必须
确保这些人不仅能够生存,

而且能够继续茁壮成长。

他们中的许多人仍然活跃,

除了那些已经入狱

或被迫躲藏或流放的人。

在世界各地

,厌倦
了恐惧和压迫的

人们正在他们的社区
和跨国界联系起来。

我们必须尽一切
努力推动我们的政府和

公司更好
地保护他们的权利。

我们还必须更加

注意我们自己的个人、政治、
消费者和商业选择如何

影响世界各地的这些人。

此外,如果您关注新闻,

很明显仅凭这一点
是不够的。

我们必须承担个人
责任,加入 -

或至少积极支持 -

为社会正义、

环境可持续性、

政府问责制、

人权、新闻自由

和 免费和开放的互联网,

遍布世界各地。

我相信,最终,
我们可以克服

极端主义、煽动和仇恨的数字化网络。

但是……

我们必须通过真正
加强

世界各地公民的全球网络来做到这一点,


每天努力工作的人们提供支持,

为一个更加
和平、公正、开放的未来世界承担个人风险 并且免费。

非常感谢您的聆听。

(掌声)