Recognizing ADHD in Adults

Transcriber: Minh-Hung Nguyen
Reviewer: Hani Eldalees

Most of the time,

when you think of somebody with ADHD,

this is what you think of.

But now I’d like for you to meet Sally.

Sally is an incredibly creative person.

She has a master’s in fine arts
from Boston University.

She’s the person that
people at work come to

if they need fresh ideas.

Sally has ADHD.

So Sally is driving down the road

and there’s this constant conversation

going on inside her head.

She’s thinking,

why did I have
to look at that last email?

I thought it was going to take me
two minutes to write a response,

and 20 minutes later, the stupid
thing still isn’t written. And I’m late.

And I would say I’m
going to do better next time.

But I say that every single day
and nothing changes.

So what’s the deal?

And then friends and family,
people who love Sally,

say things like, you forgot.

How could you forget? I told you 10 times.
Are you listening to me?

Do we need to get your ears checked?
Are you just not paying attention?

Or how could you go to the grocery store?

All we needed was bread and milk
and you come back with a hundred

and fifty dollars worth of groceries
and no bread or milk.

How does that happen?

So you can see this would be
a hard place to have confidence

because Sally has her voice
on the inside of her head

telling her she’s not doing well

and she has voices on the outside
of her head confirming it.

So this makes Sally anxious.

As you can imagine, a lot of adults who
have ADHD feel anxious, actually,

75 percent of adults who have anxiety
actually have ADHD as

the cause of their anxiety.

Whether they’re anxious or not,

they know something is not right

and they’ll make monumental efforts to
make it right. But it’s still not right.

And they’re usually waiting for
the other shoe to drop,

for everybody else to figure out they’re
not as competent as they appear.

But here’s the thing. Sally is actually
competent.

So what’s going on?

What’s going on with ADHD?

At its core, ADHD is a deficiency
of neurotransmitters,

mainly dopamine and norepinephrine.

You need dopamine
to be interested in things

like what your husband is telling you

to get at the grocery store;

and need norepinephrine

for executive functions

like concept of time and prioritizing.

Because you need to know how
much time has passed,

so you know whether you need to stop
answering that email so you can get to

your appointment.

And you need to know that it’s more
important to get to the appointment

on time than it is to finish
that email today.

And there are many, many other
examples I can give.

Now I’d like for you to meet Tom.

Tom is a people person.

He is a great friend.

He can connect with just about anybody.

Tom checks his mail about once a week,

usually when the door of the mailbox
won’t close all the way because

there’s so much mail in there.

Tom has to force himself to go
get the mail and he brings it in

and he sets it down on the table

because the mail is not interesting.

Unfortunately, he sets to the mail down
on last week’s mail

and that sitting on top of mail
from the week before that.

So the mail started out
being an interesting

but then it ended up being overwhelming.

And at some point, Tom just swept
all the mail into a box

and stuck the box in a closet.

And it doesn’t matter

that there were bills
that needed to be paid

because they’re not interesting

until the situation becomes overwhelming

and now the water gets turned off

because Tom didn’t pay his water bill.
Now he’s interested.

And this doesn’t just happen at home.
It happens at work, too.

At home, if Tom is overwhelmed,
he can just move right past it.

But he doesn’t have that luxury to work.

So if you see Tom sitting in a meeting,

he is just seething internally

because he has so much that he has to do,

and these people are just wasting his
time in another boring meeting.

And the problem, it’s not just the mail.

It’s the mundane details of human
existence that we all have to deal with,

like going to the doctor,
going to the dentist.

And people with ADHD know
they need to do them,

but they’re either mundane
or they’re overwhelming.

And you can see that neither one of those
situations will get the job done.

Until the situation becomes so big that
they have to address it.

So these are people who are living their
life in crisis all the time.

And just think about the health
implications of that,

the risk of heart attack, the high
blood pressure, the weight gain.

And this doesn’t just affect
the person with ADHD.

It affects everybody around them

because they don’t understand
what’s going on.

But then neither does the
person with ADHD.

Nobody understands what’s going on.

So this is the corporate executive
who has great ideas,

but she’s late getting your
individual reviews done.

This is the stay at home mom

who is frantically
running around all day long.

But when her husband comes home,

the house is a mess and she hasn’t
even started dinner yet.

This is a college professor
who’s a great teacher,

but it takes him forever
to grade his tests.

And this is the husband who
has to stay late at work

because he can’t get any work
done until everybody leaves,

because that’s when he can focus.

Now, here’s where this gets interesting,
because most people with ADHD,

including Tom and Sally,
are perfectionists.

What’s up with that?

It’s all about the shame.

Because they know what they need to do,
they’re clear thinking adults,

but they can’t get it done.

And they have a world of people

who see that they’re
not getting things done.

They don’t understand. They’re not
aspiring to be that person.

They’re trying really hard
not to be that person.

And it’s not working.

In their minds,

the only way to counter the shame
of not getting something done

and then hearing about it
is to do it perfectly.

So what’s the solution?

That’s the best part of this conversation,

because there is a solution.

Medication helps tremendously

because this is a chemical deficiency.

Sally gets her ADHD treated

and now she can have creative thoughts
without having that big swirl of ideas

running around in her head.

And she can look at an email and see
if she has time to answer it

or she needs to save it for later.

Now, Sally can be on time
for her appointment,

and that frees up the perfectionist

who was trying so hard
to be on time before

and was failing every time.

Tom gets his ADHD treated.

Now he can open up the bills

and pay them

and he can sit down and read a book

and remember what he read.

At work, Tom can sit quietly,

as any adult would in a meeting,

even though it’s a really boring meeting

because he doesn’t have to stimulate
himself to be interested in it.

Now the corporate executive
gets her reviews done

and she has more time
for great ideas.

The stay-at-home mom

can spend time with her kids

really being present with her kids

because she’s not frantically
running around all the time.

The college professor can help the
students who are struggling

because he knows what their grades are.

And the husband can come home on time
and spend time with his family

because he got his work done
during work hours.

So does everybody have this? I mean,
don’t we all feel stressed at times?

Yes, of course we all feel stressed,

but for some people
this is life altering.

They can’t move forward and they
live a life of hidden shame.

In the 28 years I’ve been seeing patients,
in my professional opinion,

I think we’re looking at two
to three out of ten people,

and that’s a lot of people who could
be feeling a whole lot better.

Thank you for your time.

抄写员:Minh-Hung Nguyen
审稿人:Hani Eldalees

大多数时候,

当您想到患有多动症的人时,您会

想到这个。

但现在我想让你见见莎莉。

莎莉是一个非常有创造力的人。

她拥有
波士顿大学的美术硕士学位。

如果工作人员需要新鲜的想法,她会找她。

莎莉患有多动症。

所以莎莉在路上开车,

她的脑海里一直在进行这种对话。

她在想,

我为什么
要看最后一封邮件?

我以为我要花
两分钟才能写一个回复

,20分钟后,愚蠢的
事情仍然没有写出来。 而我迟到了。

我会说我
下次会做得更好。

但我说每一天
都没有改变。

那么交易是什么?

然后朋友和家人,
爱莎莉的人,

说,你忘了。

你怎么能忘记? 我告诉过你10次。
你在听我说吗?

我们需要检查你的耳朵吗?
你只是不注意吗?

或者你怎么能去杂货店?

我们所需要的只是面包和牛奶,
而你却带着

价值 150 美元的杂货回来
,却没有面包或牛奶。

这是怎么发生的?

所以你可以看到这将是
一个很难有信心的地方,

因为莎莉
在她的脑袋里面有她的声音

告诉她她做得不好

,她在
她的脑袋外面有声音在确认这一点。

所以这让莎莉很着急。

可以想象,很多患有多动症的成年人
都会感到焦虑,实际上,有

75% 的焦虑症成年人
实际上是

多动症导致他们焦虑的原因。

无论他们是否焦虑,

他们都知道有些事情是不对的

,他们会做出巨大的努力来
纠正它。 但这仍然不对。

他们通常在
等待另一只鞋掉下来,

让其他人发现
他们并不像看起来那样有能力。

但事情就是这样。 莎莉实际上是有
能力的。

发生什么了?

多动症怎么了?

多动症的核心是
神经递质缺乏,

主要是多巴胺和去甲肾上腺素。

你需要多巴胺
才能对

你丈夫告诉你

去杂货店买的东西感兴趣;

并且需要去甲肾上腺素

来执行

时间概念和优先级等执行功能。

因为您需要知道
已经过去了多少时间,

所以您知道是否需要停止
回复该电子邮件,以便您可以

赴约。

而且您需要知道,
按时赴约

比今天完成
那封电子邮件更重要。

我可以举很多很多其他的
例子。

现在我想让你见见汤姆。

汤姆是一个人。

他是个好朋友。

他几乎可以与任何人联系。

汤姆大约每周检查一次他的邮件,

通常是在邮箱的门
不会完全关闭的时候,因为

里面有很多邮件。

汤姆不得不强迫自己
去取邮件,他把它拿了进来

,然后把它放在桌子上,

因为邮件没有意思。

不幸的是,他将邮件
放在上周的邮件

上,然后放在
前一周的邮件之上。

所以这封邮件一开始
很有趣,

但后来变得不堪重负。

在某个时候,汤姆只是把
所有的邮件都扫进了一个盒子,

然后把盒子塞进了壁橱。

有需要支付的账单并不重要,因为

在情况变得不堪重负之前它们并不有趣

,现在

因为汤姆没有支付他的水费而关闭了水。
现在他很感兴趣。

这不仅仅发生在家里。
它也发生在工作中。

在家里,如果汤姆不知所措,
他可以直接过去。

但他没有那么奢侈的工作。

因此,如果你看到汤姆坐在会议上,

他只是在内心沸腾,

因为他有太多事情要做,

而这些人只是
在另一个无聊的会议上浪费他的时间。

问题不只是邮件。


是我们所有人都必须处理的人类存在的平凡细节,

比如去看医生,
去看牙医。

患有多动症的人知道
他们需要这样做,

但他们要么平凡,
要么不堪重负。

而且您可以看到,这些情况中的任何一种
都无法完成工作。

直到情况变得如此之大以至于
他们必须解决它。

所以这些人一直
生活在危机中。

想想这对健康的
影响,

心脏病发作的风险,
高血压,体重增加。

这不仅仅影响
患有多动症的人。

它影响到他们周围的每个人,

因为他们不明白
发生了什么。

但是,
患有多动症的人也没有。

没有人明白发生了什么。

所以这是
一位有好主意的公司高管,

但她完成你的
个人评论很晚。

这就是整天疯狂奔波的宅在家里的妈妈

可老公一回来

,家里就乱七八糟,她
连晚饭都还没开始吃。

这是一位大学教授
,他是一位出色的老师,

但他却要花很长时间
才能给他的考试评分。

这就是
丈夫不得不在工作中熬夜,

因为
在所有人离开之前他无法完成任何工作,

因为那时他可以集中精力。

现在,这就是有趣的地方,
因为大多数患有多动症的人,

包括汤姆和莎莉,
都是完美主义者。

那是怎么回事?

这都是关于耻辱的。

因为他们知道自己需要做什么,
他们是思维清晰的成年人,

但他们无法完成。

他们的世界里有很多

人看到他们
没有把事情做好。

他们不明白。 他们并不
渴望成为那个人。

他们真的很努力
不成为那个人。

而且它不起作用。

在他们看来

,唯一能对抗
没有完成某事

然后听到它的耻辱的唯一方法
就是把它做得完美。

那么解决方案是什么?

这是这次谈话中最好的部分,

因为有一个解决方案。

药物治疗有很大帮助,

因为这是一种化学缺陷。

莎莉接受了她的多动症治疗

,现在她可以有创造性的想法,
而不会

在她的脑海中盘旋。

她可以查看一封电子邮件,
看看她是否有时间回复它,

或者她需要将其保存以备后用。

现在,莎莉可以
准时赴约

,这让

之前努力准时但

每次都失败的完美主义者解放了。

汤姆接受了多动症治疗。

现在他可以打开账单

并支付

,他可以坐下来读一本书

并记住他读过的东西。

在工作中,汤姆可以

像任何成年人参加会议一样安静地坐着,

即使这是一次非常无聊的会议,

因为他不必刺激
自己对它感兴趣。

现在,公司高管
完成了她的评论

,她有更多时间
来思考伟大的想法。

全职妈妈

可以花时间

陪伴她的孩子,

因为她不会一直疯狂地
跑来跑去。

大学教授可以帮助
那些苦苦挣扎的学生,

因为他知道他们的成绩。

丈夫可以准时回家
并与家人共度时光,

因为他
在工作时间完成了工作。

那么每个人都有这个吗? 我的意思是,
我们有时不都感到压力吗?

是的,当然我们都感到压力,

但对于某些人来说,
这正在改变生活。

他们无法前进,他们
过着隐藏羞耻的生活。

在我看病的 28 年里,
以我的专业观点,

我认为我们正在
看十分之二到三的人,

而且很多人的
感觉可能会好很多。

感谢您的时间。