Tomas Saraceno Would you live in a floating city in the sky with English subtitles TED

Translator: Camille Martínez

This is my favorite place on earth,

Salar de Uyuni in Bolivia.

And when it’s covered
in a thin layer of water,

it reflects the clouds.

There are days when you feel
as if you’re floating among the clouds.

But there are days
when the horizon disappears;

there’s no longer a top or a bottom.

You feel immersed in something bigger.

It was there that one night
I woke up from a dream,

and I saw that the stars
were also reflected on the water.

And that wasn’t a dream.

It was as if you could walk
among the stars.

With every step I took,
the stars reverberated under my feet.

It was like I was floating in the universe
among clouds of galaxies.

But what’s floating there today
are not just clouds of galaxies

but also clouds of plastic.

These are the footprints
we’re leaving on the planet.

They’re signs of an era

in which the behavior of some humans
is making a global impact

on our ecosystems.

This era is called the Anthropocene.

There’s also another type
of toxic clouds that float in the air,

like the ones that form
from carbon dioxide emissions

and from the burning of fossil fuels –
oil, carbon, gas –

clouds that, when we see them,

pollute our dreams.

I don’t know about all of you,

but I’ve always dreamed of floating
among the clouds.

Maybe today we can imagine together
other types of clouds,

clouds we can live with.

If you’re wondering
about that photo, I’ll explain:

it looks like a collage
or photomontage – something weird.

No; it’s reality.

But sometimes I ask myself:
What is reality?

According to Alexander Kluge:

“Human beings are not
interested in reality.

They can’t be; it’s part
of the human essence.

They have desires.

These desires are totally opposed
to any form of reality.

They prefer to lie

than to become divorced
from their desires.”

But how can we learn
to float among the clouds?

As an artist, I thought we could start
building a flying museum.

You’re probably wondering:
With plastic bags?

In 2007, with a community of people
all over the world,

we began to collect used plastic bags –

not new ones.

And we washed them,

we cut them up,

we glued them together,

and we began to draw on them,

creating a huge canvas.

We made a collection of drawings,

of personal stories

and of friendships.

And when you join them,

bend them and fold them,

it creates a space full of air.

When the sun comes up from the horizon,

the museum rises up to the sky.

That’s why we call it,
“The Aero-Solar Museum.”

And from this simple idea,

we learned how to float in the air
in a radically new way,

without using any type of fuel.

The difference in temperature
between the interior and the exterior

is what makes us rise up.

That way,

we don’t use fossil fuels
or helium or hydrogen;

we don’t use solar panels

or batteries or motors.

We discovered a way that’s simple,
clean and accessible to the whole world

to lift ourselves up.

I remember when I was at NASA in 2009
with 120 engineers.

You guys know, too,
when you go up in a plane,

the control panels are gigantic.

And what we’re doing is really complex,

and when I started coming in
with the plastic bags, saying,

“But we have a different way …”

people had a hard time
understanding the concept.

Seeing the power of this idea,

we started to initiate a new era;

one that would leave behind
the violence of the Anthropocene

and give way to a new era,

which we call the “Aerocene” –

an era of ecological awareness,

in which we learn to float together,
live together in the air,

and come to an ethical commitment

with the atmosphere and with planet earth.

That’s why I’ve brought
this backpack today.

Let’s see …

OK. This is a balloon
that we also refer to as a sculpture.

And if it’s sunny out tomorrow,
we can go out and fly –

though, no, the weather
in Vancouver isn’t –

(Laughter)

it’s not very …

very favorable.

So, what other features does it have?

It has sensors that, when it moves,

make sort of drawings in the air.

It also has other sensors.

I always think that first
you have to feel it,

and then you can measure it;

you need to hear the sounds
of the atmosphere,

of the climate, of the hot air,

in order to then measure the ozone,

the carbon dioxide.

We’re developing these sensors

together with different communities
all over the world

in order to reconnect with the climate,
the temperature and the environment,

because there are other
species in the air;

in these excursions
towards the atmosphere,

we’re not alone.

The air is full of clouds of life.

We live at the bottom of an ocean of air.

And this same sculpture,

this exact one in my hands,

flew 375 miles – 12 hours –
from Germany to Poland,

on a fuel-free trip.

But it wasn’t free from crossing borders.

The trip was much more complicated
than what we imagined;

air space is as regulated and militarized

as land space.

To fly using the winds,
the heat of the sun

and the radiant energy of the earth

is complex and beautiful.

But even more complex
will be getting the permits

to cross the air space
of each of the different countries

that we fly over using wind.

At COP21, the Paris Climate Conference,

we presented these spherical sculptures

that could transport us
all over the world.

But how can we fly using the wind
to arrive at our destination?

Together with MIT, we developed a program

that predicts how we can navigate
the wind highways.

For example, if I had to return
to Berlin from Vancouver,

the first thing I would need to do
is choose an altitude.

At different altitudes,
there are different directions

and different speeds.

The red line is tomorrow
and the orange, the day after tomorrow.

And there it goes.

You can see, the best day
to fly back to Berlin –

so now, traveling using only wind –

is in six days.

And we can get to 105 miles
from the center of Berlin

without burning a single drop of fuel,

being transported only by wind currents.

So we thought that these trajectories
that we drew with the wind

could become signatures, declaring
“Independence from Fossil Fuels Day.”

More and more of us
are experiencing the air

in a different way.

You’re all familiar with Earth Day.

We think we should also celebrate Air Day:

it’s a pact that we make with the earth,

an ethical commitment to the atmosphere.

But let’s keep thinking and dreaming.

We’ve learned that the bigger
the sculptures are,

the more weight they can lift.

Remember,

they rise up only with hot air
that’s been heated by the sun.

Using this approach, we can learn
to build gardens in the air.

Could we one day live in a garden
the size of the earth?

Could we live in an ecosystem
floating among the clouds?

Answering these questions
isn’t just a technological challenge;

it’s a way to reexamine
the freedom of movement between countries,

and of overcoming the political,
social, cultural and military restrictions

of contemporary societies.

Because in the end,

the air belongs to everybody

and doesn’t answer to any government.

(Applause)

And like we said earlier,

our imagination is the force
that allows us to create these places.

This is an installation I did

at the Metropolitan Museum
of Art in New York.

It asks the question:

What might these transnational
spaces be like?

And once we inhabit those spaces,
we need to learn how to move within them,

to walk among the clouds,

where every movement affects
everyone else’s movements;

the body weight and proximity
between people

will cause the space to expand …

or contract.

There we are, suspended
72 feet in the air.

When two or more people
get too close together,

even those farthest away are affected –

everyone falls to the same spot.

These are fragile ecosystems.

And it’s between these spheres
that we build nets that connect us.

There are moments
when we have to face the void,

and fear can paralyze us.

One of the most beautiful things
about this exhibit

is the sense of solidarity generated

when we face these new “aero-graphs.”

Finally,

let me tell you one last story.

On July 16, 1945,

on the White Sands of New Mexico,

an atomic bomb was detonated
for the first time.

As a result of this explosion,

a cloud of radioactive particles
disseminated all over the earth,

marking the beginning
of the Anthropocene era.

Seventy years later, on November 8, 2015,

in the same place,

another event occurred.

For the first time in history,

we lifted a person into the air
using only the sun,

without burning any fossil fuels.

As the sun rose up above the horizon,

we rose up, too,

silently,

slowly,

with no explosions.

We felt as if gravity had been inverted;

it wasn’t pulling us
toward the center of the earth,

but toward the universe.

If Neil Armstrong said,
when he walked on the moon,

“That’s one small step for man,

one giant leap for mankind,”

perhaps what we ought to ask ourselves is:

What steps do we need to take today?

In the Aerocene era,

our steps are much smaller,
but radically different;

they’re steps that began with a bag
full of air and wishes,

but that can carry us
to independence from fossil fuels

and the opportunity to celebrate Air Day;

steps that won’t leave footprints
on other planets

until we’ve learned to walk
in the atmosphere of this one.

The landscapes are tiny

and the steps are tiny,

but I hope we can take them together.

And I’m sure that these steps will lead us
much further than the moon,

so we can learn to float
with our feet on the ground.

Thank you.

(Applause)

译者:Camille Martínez

这是我在地球上最喜欢的地方

,玻利维亚的乌尤尼盐沼。

当它
被一层薄薄的水覆盖时,

它会反射云层。

有些日子,你会觉得自己
仿佛漂浮在云端。

但是有些
日子地平线消失了;

不再有顶部或底部。

你感觉沉浸在更大的事物中。

就是在那里,有一天晚上
我从梦中醒来

,我看到
星星也倒映在水面上。

那不是梦。

就好像你可以
在星星之间行走。

我每迈出一步
,星星就在我脚下回荡。

就像我漂浮在
星系云之间的宇宙中。

但今天漂浮在那里
的不仅仅是星系

云,还有塑料云。

这些是
我们在地球上留下的足迹。

它们是一个时代的迹象,

在这个时代,一些人类的行为
正在

对我们的生态系统产生全球影响。

这个时代被称为人类世。

还有另
一种有毒云漂浮在空气中,

就像
二氧化碳排放

和化石燃料燃烧形成的云——
石油、碳、天然气——

当我们看到它们时,它们会

污染我们的梦想。

我不知道你们所有人,

但我一直梦想着漂浮
在云端。

也许今天我们可以一起想象
其他类型的云,

我们可以生活的云。

如果你想
知道那张照片,我会解释:

它看起来像拼贴画
或蒙太奇——有些奇怪。

不; 这是现实。

但有时我会问自己:
什么是现实?

根据亚历山大克鲁格的说法:

“人类
对现实不感兴趣。

他们不可能;这
是人类本质的一部分。

他们有欲望。

这些欲望完全
反对任何形式的现实。

他们宁愿撒谎也

不愿离婚
出于他们的愿望。”

但是我们怎样才能学会
在云端漂浮呢?

作为一名艺术家,我认为我们可以开始
建造一个飞行博物馆。

你可能想知道:
用塑料袋?

2007 年
,我们与世界各地的人们一起,

开始收集用过的塑料袋——

而不是新的。

我们把它们洗干净

,剪下来,

把它们粘在一起,

然后开始在它们上面画画,

创造出一个巨大的画布。

我们制作了一系列绘画

、个人故事

和友谊。

当你加入它们,

弯曲它们并折叠它们时,

它会创造一个充满空气的空间。

当太阳从地平线

升起时,博物馆升上天空。

这就是我们称之为
“航空太阳能博物馆”的原因。

从这个简单的想法,

我们学会了如何
以一种全新的方式漂浮在空中,

而无需使用任何类型的燃料。

室内和室外的温差

是让我们站起来的原因。

这样,

我们就不会使用化石燃料
或氦气或氢气;

我们不使用太阳能电池板

、电池或电机。

我们发现了一种简单、
干净且可供全世界使用的方法

来提升自己。

我记得 2009 年我
和 120 名工程师在 NASA 时。

你们也知道,
当你乘坐飞机时

,控制面板是巨大的。

我们正在做的事情非常复杂

,当我开始
带着塑料袋进来时,说,

“但我们有不同的方式……”

人们很难
理解这个概念。

看到这个想法的力量,

我们开始开创一个新时代;

它将摆脱
人类世的暴力

并让位于一个新时代

,我们称之为“航空世”——

一个生态意识的时代,

在这个时代,我们学会一起漂浮,
一起生活在空中,

然后来到

对大气和地球的道德承诺。

这就是我
今天带来这个背包的原因。

让我们看看……

好吧。 这是一个气球
,我们也称之为雕塑。

如果明天是晴天,
我们可以出去飞——

不过,不,
温哥华的天气不是——

(笑声

)不是很……

很有利。

那么,它还有哪些其他功能呢?

它有传感器,当它移动时,

会在空中画出一些图画。

它还有其他传感器。

我一直认为,首先
你必须去感受它,

然后你才能衡量它;

你需要
听到大气

、气候、热空气的声音

,然后才能测量臭氧

、二氧化碳。

我们正在


世界各地

的不同社区一起开发这些传感器,以便与气候
、温度和环境重新建立联系,

因为
空气中还有其他物种;

在这些
对大气层的探索中,

我们并不孤单。

空气中充满了生命的云彩。

我们生活在空气海洋的底部。

同一件雕塑,

这件在我手中的雕塑,从德国到波兰

飞行了 375 英里——12 小时——

在一次无燃料的旅行中。

但它并非免于跨越国界。

这次旅行
比我们想象的要复杂得多;

空中空间与陆地空间一样受到管制和军事化

利用风、
太阳的热量

和地球的辐射能飞行

是复杂而美丽的。

但更复杂
的是获得

穿越我们使用风力飞越
的每个不同国家

的领空的许可。

在 COP21 巴黎气候大会上,

我们展示了这些球形雕塑

,可以将我们运送
到世界各地。

但是我们怎样才能乘风飞行
到达我们的目的地呢?

我们与麻省理工学院一起开发了一个程序

,可以预测我们如何
在风速公路上航行。

例如,如果我必须
从温哥华返回柏林,

我需要做的第一件事
就是选择海拔高度。

在不同的高度,
有不同的方向

和不同的速度。

红线是明天
,橙线是后天。

就这样。

你可以看到,飞回柏林的最佳日子
——

所以现在,只靠风旅行——

是六天后。

我们可以

不燃烧一滴燃料的情况下从柏林市中心到达 105 英里,

仅靠风流运输。

所以我们认为这些
我们随风画的轨迹

可以成为签名,宣布
“独立于化石燃料日”。

越来越多的人

以不同的方式体验空气。

你们都熟悉地球日。

我们认为我们还应该庆祝空气日:

这是我们与地球签订的协议,

是对大气的道德承诺。

但是,让我们继续思考和梦想。

我们了解到,
雕塑越大,

它们可以举起的重量就越大。

请记住,

它们只有在
被太阳加热的热空气中才会升起。

使用这种方法,我们可以学习
在空中建造花园。

我们有朝一日能住在一个
地球大小的花园里吗?

我们可以生活在漂浮在云层中的生态系统
中吗?

回答这些
问题不仅仅是一个技术挑战;

这是一种重新
审视国家之间的行动自由

以及克服当代社会的政治、
社会、文化和军事限制

的方式。

因为归根结底

,空气属于每个人

,不向任何政府负责。

(掌声

)就像我们之前说的,

我们的想象力是
让我们创造这些地方的力量。

这是我

在纽约大都会艺术博物馆做的一个装置。

它提出了一个问题:

这些跨国
空间可能是什么样的?

一旦我们居住在这些空间中,
我们就需要学习如何在其中移动,

在云层中行走

,每一个动作都会影响到
其他人的动作;

体重和
人与人之间的距离

会导致空间扩大……

或收缩。

我们在那里,悬浮在
72 英尺高的空中。

当两个或更多人
靠得太近时,

即使是最远的人也会受到影响——

每个人都会跌倒在同一个地方。

这些是脆弱的生态系统。

正是在这些领域之间
,我们建立了连接我们的网络。

有时
我们不得不面对空虚

,恐惧会使我们瘫痪。

这个展览最美妙的地方之一

当我们面对这些新的“航空图”时产生的团结感。

最后,

让我告诉你最后一个故事。

1945 年 7 月 16 日,

在新墨西哥州的白沙上,第

一次引爆了原子弹

由于这次爆炸,

一团放射性粒子云
散布在地球上,

标志着人类世时代的开始。

七十年后的 2015 年 11 月 8 日,

在同一个地方,

发生了另一件事。

历史上第一次,

我们只使用太阳将人抬到空中

而不燃烧任何化石燃料。

当太阳从地平线

升起时,我们也升起,

静静地,

缓慢地

,没有爆炸。

我们感觉好像重力被颠倒了;

它不是把我们拉
向地心,

而是拉向宇宙。

如果尼尔·阿姆斯特朗
在月球上行走时说:

“这是人类的一小步,却

是人类的一大步”,

也许我们应该问自己:

今天我们需要采取哪些步骤?

在 Aerocene 时代,

我们的步骤要小得多,
但完全不同;

它们是从装满空气和愿望的袋子开始的步骤,

但这可以使
我们摆脱化石燃料的束缚,

并有机会庆祝空气日;

我们学会
在这颗行星的大气层中行走之前,不会在其他行星上留下足迹的步骤。

风景很小

,台阶很小,

但我希望我们可以一起走。

而且我确信这些步骤将带领我们
比月球走得更远,

因此我们可以学会
用脚在地面上漂浮。

谢谢你。

(掌声)