Inside Americas dead shopping malls Dan Bell

In the last couple of years,

I have produced what I call
“The Dead Mall Series,”

32 short films and counting
about dead malls.

Now, for those of you who are
not familiar with what a dead mall is,

it’s basically a shopping mall

that has fallen into hard times.

So it either has few shops
and fewer shoppers,

or it’s abandoned and crumbling into ruin.

No sale at Penny’s.

(Laughter)

I started producing this series

in early 2015

after going through
kind of a dark period in my life

where I just didn’t want
to create films anymore.

I put my camera away

and I just stopped.

So in 2015, I decided to make
a short film about the Owings Mills Mall.

Owings Mills Mall opened in 1986.

I should know because
I was there on opening day.

I was there with my family,

along with every other
family in Baltimore,

and you had to drive around

for 45 minutes

just to find a parking spot.

So if you can imagine,

that’s not happening at the malls today.

My first mall job that I had as a teenager

was at a sporting goods store
called Herman’s World of Sports.

Maybe you remember.

(Singing) Herman’s World of Sports.

You guys remember that?

(Laughter)

Yeah, so I worked in a lady’s shoe store.

I worked in a leather goods store,

and I also worked in a video store,

and not being one who was
very fond of the retail arts –

(Laughter)

I got fired from every single job.

(Laughter)

In between these low-paying retail jobs,

I did what any normal teenager did

in the 1990s.

I shoplifted.

I’m just kidding.

I hung out with my friends at the mall.

(Laughter)

Everyone’s like, “Oh my God,
what kind of talk is this?”

(Laughter)

Hanging out at the mall could be fun,
but it could be really lame, too,

like sharing a cigarette
with a 40-year-old unemployed mall rat

who has put on
black lipstick for the night

while you’re on your break
from your crappy minimum wage job.

As I stand here today,

Owings Mills has been gutted

and it’s ready for the wrecking ball.

The last time I was there,
it was in the evening,

and it was about three days
before they closed the mall for good.

And you kind of felt –

they never announced the mall was closing,

but you had this sort of feeling,
this ominous feeling,

that something big was going to happen,

like it was the end of the road.

It was a very creepy walk
through the mall.

Let me show you.

(Music)

So when I started producing
“The Dead Mall Series,”

I put the videos up onto YouTube,

and while I thought they were interesting,

frankly I didn’t think others
would share the enthusiasm

for such a drab and depressing topic.

But apparently I was wrong,

because a lot of people
started to comment.

And at first the comments were like –

basically like, “Oh my God,
that’s the mall from my childhood.

What happened?”

And then I would get comments
from people who were like,

“There’s a dead mall in my town.
You should come and film it.”

So I started to travel around
the mid-Atlantic region

filming these dead malls.

Some were open.

Some were abandoned.

It was kind of always hard
to get into the ones that were abandoned,

but I somehow always found a way in.

(Laughter)

The malls that are still open,

they always do this weird thing –
like the dead malls.

They’ll have three stores left,

but they try to spruce it up

to make it appear
like things are on the up-and-up.

For example,

you’ll have an empty store

and they bring the gate down.

So at Owings Mills, for example,
they put this tarp over the gate.

Right?

And it’s got a stock photo

of a woman who is so happy

and she’s holding a blouse,

and she’s like –

(Laughter)

And then there’s a guy
standing next to her, with, like,

an espresso cup, and he’s like –

(Laughter)

And it says, “What brings you today?”

(Laughter)

I wanted to be scared and depressed.

Thank you.

So the comments just kept pouring in

on the videos,

from all over the country,
and then all over the world.

And I started to think,
this could really be something,

but I had to get creative,
because I’m like,

how long are people going to sit and watch
me waddling through an empty mall?

(Laughter)

So the original episodes
I filmed with an iPhone.

So I’d walk through the mall
with an iPhone, and, you know.

Like that.

(Laughter)

And security – because malls,
they don’t like photography –

so the security would come up and be like,
“Put that away,” and I’m like, “OK.”

So I had to get creative and sneaky,

so I started using a hidden camera
and different techniques

to get the footage that I needed,

and basically what I wanted to do

was make the video

like it was a first-person experience,

like you are sitting –

put your headphones on
watching the screen –

it’s like, you’re there in the video,

like a video game, basically.

I also started to use music,

collaborating with artists
who create music called vaporwave.

And vaporwave is a music genre

that emerged in the early 2010s
among internet communities.

Here’s an example.

(Music)

That’s by an artist named Disconscious

from an album he did
called “Hologram Plaza.”

So if you look that up,
you can hear more of those tunes.

Vaporwave is more than an art form.
It’s like a movement.

It’s nihilistic, it’s angsty,

but it’s somehow comforting.

The whole aesthetic is a way of dealing
with things you can’t do anything about,

like no jobs, or sitting in your parents'
basement eating ramen noodles.

Vaporwave came out of this generation’s
desire to express their hopelessness,

the same way that
the pre-internet generation did

sitting around in the food court.

One of my favorite malls

I’ve been to

is in Corpus Christi,
and it’s called the Sunrise Mall.

When I was a kid,

my favorite thing to do was watch movies,

and I used to watch movies
over and over and over again.

And one of my favorite films
was “The Legend of Billie Jean.”

Now, for those of you who have seen
“The Legend of Billie Jean,”

you’ll know that it’s a great film.

I love it.

And Helen Slater and Christian Slater –

and if you didn’t know,
they are not related.

Many people thought that they
were brother and sister. They’re not.

But anyway, Sunrise Mall was used
in the film as a filming location.

The mall is exactly the same
as it was in 1984.

We’re talking 32 years later.
Let me show you.

(Video) Dan Bell: And here’s Billie Jean
running across the fountain,

being chased by Hubie Pyatt’s friends.

And she jumps over here.

And you can see the shot right here
is what it looks like today.

It’s pretty incredible.

I mean, honestly, it’s exactly the same.

And there they are
falling in the fountain,

and she runs up the stairs.

This is a nice shot
of the whole thing here.

Dan Bell: I love that so much.

(Laughter)

I always think in my head,
if I owned a dead mall –

why don’t they embrace their vintage look?

Put in a bar,

like, put vegan food in the food court

and invite millennials and hipsters

to come and drink and eat,

and I guarantee you within three weeks

H&M and Levi’s will be banging
on the door trying to get space.

I don’t know why they don’t do this,

but apparently,

it’s only in my mind, it goes all day.

(Laughter)

Anyway, in closing –

(Laughter)

When they first asked me to do this talk,

I said,

“Do you have the right person?”

(Laughter)

These talks are supposed
to be kind of inspiring and –

(Laughter)

I remembered something, though.

I put my camera down
three or four years ago,

and it took going to these malls

for me to be inspired again.

And to see my audience

and people from all over the world
writing me and saying,

“God, I love your videos,”

is incredible.

I don’t know how to even explain it,

as an artist,

how fulfilling that is.

If you would have told me a year ago

that I would be standing on this stage

talking to all of you wonderful people,

I would have never believed it.

I am humbled

and so appreciative.

Thank you very much.

(Applause)

在过去的几年里,

我制作了我所说的
“死亡商城系列”,

32 部短片,并且
数不胜数。

现在,对于那些
不熟悉什么是死商场的人来说,

它基本上是

一个陷入困境的商场。

所以它要么
商店少,购物者少,

要么被遗弃,摇摇欲坠。

Penny’s 不卖。

(笑声)

2015 年初

,我经历了人生中的一段黑暗时期,

不想
再拍电影了,我开始制作这个系列。

我把相机收起来

,停了下来。

所以在 2015 年,我决定制作
一部关于 Owings Mills 购物中心的短片。

Owings Mills Mall 于 1986 年开业。

我应该知道,因为
我在开业当天就在那里。

我和我的家人

以及巴尔的摩的所有其他
家庭都在那里

,你必须

开车 45

分钟才能找到停车位。

因此,如果您可以想象,

今天的商场不会发生这种情况。

我十几岁时的第一份商场工作

是在一家
名为 Herman’s World of Sports 的体育用品店。

也许你还记得。

(唱)赫尔曼的体育世界。

你们还记得吗?

(笑声)

是的,所以我在一家女士鞋店工作。

我在一家皮具店

工作,我也在一家音像店工作,我

不是一个
非常喜欢零售艺术的人——

(笑声)

我每份工作都被解雇了。

(笑声)

在这些低薪零售工作之间,

我做了 1990 年代普通青少年所做的事情

我入店行窃。

我只是在开玩笑。

我和我的朋友在商场闲逛。

(笑声)

每个人都说,“天哪,
这是什么谈话?”

(笑声)

在商场闲逛可能很有趣,
但也可能很蹩脚,

就像
与一个 40 岁的失业商场老鼠

分享
一支烟

摆脱你糟糕的最低工资工作。

当我今天站在这里时,

Owings Mills 已经被掏空了

,它已经准备好迎接破坏球了。

我最后一次去
那里是在晚上

,大约三天
后,他们才永久关闭了商场。

你有种感觉——

他们从来没有宣布商场要关门了,

但你有这种
感觉,这种不祥的感觉,

有大事要发生,

就像路的尽头一样。

这是一个非常令人毛骨悚然的步行
穿过商场。

我来给你展示。

(音乐)

所以当我开始制作
“The Dead Mall 系列”时,

我把视频放到了 YouTube 上

,虽然我觉得它们很有趣,但

坦率地说,我不认为其他人

会对这样一个单调和令人沮丧的话题产生热情。

但显然我错了,

因为很多人
开始发表评论。

起初评论就像 -

基本上就像,“哦,我的上帝,
那是我小时候的购物中心。

发生了什么?”

然后我会收到一些人的评论

“我镇上有一个死商场。
你应该来拍它。”

所以我开始
在大西洋中部地区旅行,

拍摄这些死气沉沉的购物中心。

有些是开放的。

有些被遗弃了。

进入那些被遗弃的地方总是有点困难,

但不知怎的,我总能找到路进去。

(笑声)

仍在营业的商场,

他们总是做这种奇怪的事情——
就像死去的商场。

他们将剩下三家商店,

但他们试图对其进行修饰,

以使其看起来
像是在向上和向上。

例如,

您将有一家空商店

,他们将大门推倒。

例如,在 Owings Mills,
他们将这种防水布放在大门上。

对?

它有一个女人的股票

照片,她非常高兴

,她拿着一件衬衫

,她就像——

(笑声

)然后有一个男人
站在她旁边,拿着

一个浓缩咖啡杯,他就像——

(笑声

) 它说,“今天给你带来了什么?”

(笑声)

我想害怕和沮丧。

谢谢你。

所以评论不断

涌入视频,

来自全国各地,
然后是世界各地。

我开始想,
这可能真的很重要,

但我必须要有创意,
因为我想,

人们要坐多久,看着
我蹒跚地穿过一个空荡荡的商场?

(笑声)

所以
我用 iPhone 拍摄的原始剧集。

所以我会
带着 iPhone 穿过商场,你知道的。

像那样。

(笑声)

还有保安——因为商场,
他们不喜欢摄影——

所以保安会上来说,
“把那个收起来”,我说,“好吧。”

所以我必须要有创意和偷偷摸摸,

所以我开始使用隐藏的相机
和不同的技术

来获取我需要的镜头

,基本上我想做的

就是让视频

像第一人称体验

一样,就像你一样 坐着——

戴上耳机
看屏幕——

就像,你在

视频中,基本上就像一个视频游戏。

我也开始使用音乐,


创作名为 vaporwave 的音乐的艺术家合作。

蒸汽波是

2010 年代初期
在互联网社区中出现的一种音乐类型。

这是一个例子。

(音乐)

这是由一位名叫 Disconscious 的艺术家创作的,

来自他制作的一张
名为“Hologram Plaza”的专辑。

所以如果你查一下,
你可以听到更多这样的曲调。

蒸汽波不仅仅是一种艺术形式。
这就像一场运动。

它是虚无主义的,它是焦虑的,

但它在某种程度上是令人欣慰的。

整个美学是一种处理
你无能为力的事情的方式,

比如没有工作,或者坐在你父母的
地下室吃拉面。

Vaporwave 源于这一代人
表达绝望的愿望,

就像互联网前一代

坐在美食广场一样。

我去过的最喜欢的购物中心之一

是科珀斯克里斯蒂
,它被称为日出购物中心。

当我还是个孩子的时候,

我最喜欢做的事情就是看电影,

而且我曾经
一遍又一遍地看电影。

我最喜欢的电影之一
是《比莉·琼的传奇》。

现在,对于那些看过
《比莉·简的传奇》的人来说,

你会知道这是一部很棒的电影。

我喜欢它。

还有海伦·斯莱特和克里斯蒂安·斯莱特

——如果你不知道,
他们是没有血缘关系的。

许多人认为他们
是兄弟姐妹。 他们不是。

但不管怎样,日出商场
在影片中被用作拍摄地。

商场和
1984 年一模一样。

我们谈论的是 32 年后。
我来给你展示。

(视频)Dan Bell:这是 Billie Jean
跑过喷泉,

被 Hubie Pyatt 的朋友追赶。

她从这里跳了过去。

你可以看到这里的镜头
就是今天的样子。

这太不可思议了。

我的意思是,老实说,它完全一样。

他们正
掉进喷泉里

,她跑上楼梯。

这是
这里整个事情的一个很好的镜头。

丹·贝尔:我非常喜欢。

(笑声)

我总是在脑海里想,
如果我拥有一个死去的商场——

他们为什么不拥抱他们的复古外观呢?

在酒吧里

,比如在美食广场放纯素食品

,邀请千禧一代和潮

人来喝酒吃饭

,我保证在三周内,

H&M 和李维斯会
敲门,试图获得空间。

我不知道他们为什么不这样做,

但显然,

这只是在我的脑海中,它会持续一整天。

(笑声)

不管怎样,最后——

(笑声)

当他们第一次让我做这个演讲时,

我说,

“你有合适的人选吗?”

(笑声)

这些谈话
应该是鼓舞人心的,而且——

(笑声

) 不过我记得一些东西。 三四年前

我放下相机

,去这些商场

让我再次受到启发。

看到我的观众

和来自世界各地的人们给
我写信说:

“上帝,我喜欢你的视频,

”真是不可思议。

我什至不知道如何解释,

作为一个艺术家,

这是多么充实。

如果你在一年前

告诉我,我会站在这个舞台上

和你们所有优秀的人交谈,

我永远不会相信。

我很谦卑

,很感激。

非常感谢你。

(掌声)