Price the E in ESG otherwise its one more climate con

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imagine

climate change impacts

pommels

indonesia tsunamis

drought floods landslides

sea level rise hundreds

then thousands of indonesians

start leaving then

millions right now

20 million on makeshift boats

are right outside

singapore seeking

shelter food

and water

millions more are heading towards

australia the same scene

is unfolding in the mediterranean sea

at the gates of europe and

on the u.s mexico border

where tens of millions of latin

americans

africans south asians arabs

climate refugees all of them

are seeking refuge on makeshift boats

and on foot what

exactly are singapore

australia europe and the united states

going to do

are they going to shoot them

are they going to let them in

or are they going to complete trump’s

wall

except this time take it all around

their countries

but what happened you might ask

what happened was we delivered progress

without sustainability

that’s what happened the progress that

we delivered

in large part powered by

burning gas and coal and

oil was amazing for 200 years

we doubled global life expectancy

we cut infant mortality from 50 percent

to 2.9 globally

we pretty much conquered illiteracy

and every one of you right this second

has

in their pocket more information

than abraham lincoln or

louis xiv ever had access to

in their entire lives

but we delivered that progress

in large part burning called

oil and gas while

cooking the books

how bad is it every single earnings

number

of every single company in the world

is actually wrong

now at the beginning obviously we did

not know that we were cooking the books

so when the first coal plant opened in

london in 1882 it was a beautiful site

it lit up a part of the town it powered

the telegram

and we then built a global

infrastructure

burning oil gas and cold

but at least 40 years ago

we should have known

and must have known that we were cooking

the books

as a matter of fact according to united

nations body called

the ipcc we have known

that humans have an impact on climate

through burning

oil gas and coal for about 100 years

but let’s be generous and call it 40.

because 40 years ago

exxon scientists had scientific papers

that predicted pretty much exactly

where global warming was going to be

today and that’s all public information

but what did we do about it

we pretty much did nothing

about it and the data is very clear

emissions are still rising

now we came up with very creative ways

to do nothing about it first we said

collectively governments companies

lobbyists think tanks that in fact

humans don’t cause an impact on the

climate through burning fossil fuels

so we just denied it then

we buried the evidence after that

companies became more creative

and said things like oh my god how can

you possibly

have me estimate my impact on the

environment if you government

don’t give me a carbon price or you

government don’t force me to clean up my

water discharge full of chemicals

or you governments don’t force me to

take responsibility

for the plastic that i’m dumping

everywhere to an extent that

every single one of us today is eating

drinking and breathing plastic

but recently we came up with an

even more fantastic way to

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cook the books and it’s called

e s g

esg stands for environmental

social and government risks and

governance risks

that a business runs

into and it’s about cataloging these

risks

so that investors take them into account

when looking at the performance of a

company now

esg is a beautiful thing because

hypothetically if you’re looking at a

portfolio of buildings for example

which you want to buy today financial

statements only show you how much money

these buildings make

and how much it costs to run them

they do not show you for example the

emissions that went

into building that building the

emissions that the building

is emitting today the deforestation

impact if any of that building and the

sea level rise

protection investment that needs to be

made to defend that building

so esg is at the moment

basically a lot of blah blah blah to say

i’m gonna take this big bucket i’m gonna

put in it everything i

don’t want on my balance sheet

and in my earnings and then i’m gonna

just forget about it in computing my

profits

it’s actually very elegant as a way of

continuing to do nothing

and esg took off because of its feel

good factor so 10 years ago

esg was pretty much zero in terms of

global assets under management

today it’s already one out of

three dollars that are professionally

managed

in other words one out of three dollars

professionally managed

pretends that it’s being managed taking

into account

esg factors and

soon it’s going to be a hundred percent

of assets under management because it’s

just

very elegant and because we citizens

want clean investment products

but there’s at least four

problems with esg and that’s at least

four problems

the first one is there are no

standards for disclosing

environmental social or governance risks

and so what companies do is they

arbitrage between them

they find kind of the best standard to

get the best

governance grade and then they go to

that one and it’s frankly

the standardization is a complete zoo

but hopefully

something is going to be done about it

the the second problem

is that abuse is rife

we all know that deforestation is a

major driver of climate change

78 of mutual funds offer

esg investment products how many would

you think

actually filter their investments for

deforestation risk the answer is zero

zero also price climate risk

and take it into account when investing

the third problem is

epic green washing and i mean epic

green washing it’s almost too beautiful

to

describe but i’ll give you one one of my

favorite examples

in 2020 253 funds

in the united states switched to an esg

focus

253 funds out of these

87 percent modified their name

by adding things like climate or

sustainable or green

or esg guess how many

changed their underlying portfolio

initially zero

and the fourth problem regrettably

is actually bigger and more

lethal

g governance is about how well a company

is managed social

or s is about human capital

and how you deal with your stakeholders

i can accept i can accept that these two

can go in a bucket which hopefully

investors would read

but e is about environmental destruction

it’s a completely different thing and it

has to be priced

then flow through earnings and impact

executive pay which at the moment it

does not do

and we’re not talking small numbers

companies worldwide

in 2019 were responsible for

7.6 trillion dollars

of environmental destruction that they

did not pay for

that’s one and a half times

the gdp of france

and the uk combined 7.6 trillion dollars

and if you look at climate change

as a subset of that

7.6 and take

a few companies as an example just to

get our head around

the issue let’s start with

exxon the oil company exxon

by its own account discloses that it’s

responsible for

730 million tons of co2 of

emissions per year

now the social cost of carbon

in other words the destruction

of each ton of carbon from a climate

change

and environmental perspective

is anywhere between fifty dollars per

ton of co2

to two hundred dollars per ton of co2

depending on which study you look at

if you look at the biden administration

at the moment their tentative number

which undoubtedly is going to go up is

51

so let’s be generous to exxon and take

50

if you take 50 and you multiply that by

the 730 million tons

you get 36 and a half

billion dollars that’s 36.5

billion dollars of climate impacts

which exxon is responsible for

but are nowhere to be found on its

financial statements

or in its earnings and are nowhere taken

into account

in its executive pay

and it’s not just exxon by the way it’s

every single company

in the world with no exceptions

none and what that means is that

for 40 years because we have

buried that environmental destruction

outside the financial statements

what we’ve done is we’ve literally moved

tens

of trillions of dollars to the wrong

place

we sent them to search for more

oil more gas more coal more plastic

more polluting products

instead of having done the right thing

sending them to the right place which

would have meant that today

we would have been done with that

climate change

challenge already so

exxon in a good year makes 20 billion

dollars

its earnings are therefore misstated

by something like 200 basf

the german chemical group

their earnings if you do the very same

math based on

their numbers are misstated by 67

percent

67 toyota makes

also about 20 billion dollars a year but

if you take

its emissions multiply that by 50

you get 20 billion dollars which means

that toyota actually has never been

profitable

and all that money has been diverted to

petrol cars

when it shouldn’t have this is hugely

meaningful

because if we weren’t cooking the books

your electric boiler right now would

instantaneously be

cheaper than your gas boiler green

hydrogen would

already be with us we would be flying

electric

planes we would be sailing electric

boats bill gates talk of a

talks about of a green premium which

according to him

is the premium you have to pay for a

zero carbon product compared to

a fossil product of the same type so a

plastic straw versus

a biodegradable straw but in fact

the green premium would instantly

disappear and would never have existed

if we weren’t cooking the books and

looked at a different way there is no

green premium

unless you are cooking the books

this cooking the books thing is a

pandemic

attacking it is probably the most

effective lever

to change the world and move it to a

safer place

immediately and in the fastest possible

way therefore merging

progress and sustainability

and i’ll finish by saying this

indonesians

and latin americans and africans and

arabs and south asian

do not want to move to sweden

they really don’t or denmark

they want to stay at home but to do that

their home has to be climate safe

thank you

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想象

气候变化的影响

印度尼西亚 海啸

干旱 洪水 山体滑坡

海平面上升 数百

然后成千上万的印度尼西亚人

开始离开 然后

数百万人现在

2000 万人乘坐临时船

新加坡郊外寻求

庇护 食物

和水

数百万人正前往

澳大利亚 同一个场景

正在地中海

的欧洲大门

和美墨边境

展开 美国

会做

什么,他们会开枪打死他们,

是让他们进来

还是要完成特朗普的

围墙,

除了这次把它带到

他们的国家,

但发生了什么你可能会问

,发生了什么是我们在没有可持续性的情况下取得了进展

我们

在大 p 中交付的进展发生了什么 200 年来,由

燃烧天然气、煤炭和

石油提供动力的艺术令人惊叹

我们将全球预期寿命翻了一番 我们将全球

婴儿死亡率从 50% 降低

到 2.9

我们几乎征服了文盲

,你们每个

人的口袋里都比亚伯拉罕拥有更多的信息

林肯或

路易十四

在他们的一生中都曾接触过,

但我们

烹饪书籍的同时实现

了在很大程度上燃烧称为石油和天然气的进展,现在

世界上每家公司的每一个收入数字

实际上都是

错误的 很明显,我们一开始

并不知道我们正在煮书,

所以当 1882 年第一家燃煤电厂在伦敦开业时,

它是一个美丽的地方,

它照亮了城镇的一部分,它

为电报提供动力,

然后我们建立了一个全球

基础设施,

燃烧石油气 和冷,

但至少在 40 年前,

我们应该知道

并且必须知道我们实际上是在烹饪

书籍,根据

联合国博 dy

称为 ipcc 我们已经

知道人类

通过燃烧

石油和煤炭对气候产生影响大约 100 年,

但让我们大方一点,称之为 40。

因为 40 年前,

埃克森美孚的科学家们发表的科学论文

几乎准确地预测了

全球变暖的位置 将是

今天,这都是公共信息,

但我们对此做了什么

我们几乎什么也

没做,数据很清楚

排放量仍在上升

现在我们想出了非常有创意的

方法,首先我们说什么都不做

集体政府公司

游说智囊团认为

人类实际上不会

通过燃烧化石燃料对气候造成影响

所以我们只是否认了它然后

我们埋葬了证据之后

公司变得更有创造力

并说诸如哦我的上帝你怎么可能

如果你们政府

不给我碳价格或者你们

政府不强迫我清理

排水,让我估计一下我对环境的影响 充满化学物质,

或者你们政府不要强迫我对

我到处倾倒的塑料承担责任,以至于

我们今天每个人都在吃

塑料,喝塑料,

但最近我们想出了一个

更奇妙的方法

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煮书,它被称为

esg 是一件美好的事情,因为

假设您正在

查看例如您今天想购买的建筑物的投资组合,

财务

报表只会向您显示

这些建筑物

赚了多少钱以及运行它们的成本

,例如它们不会向您显示

进入该建筑物的

排放量 该建筑物今天排放的排放量 该建筑物的

任何毁林影响 以及

需要进行海平面上升保护投资

来保护那栋建筑物,

所以目前 esg

基本上是很多废话,说

我要拿这个大桶,我要把我

所做的一切都放进

去 不想出现在我的资产负债表

和收入中,然后我会

在计算我的利润时忘记它,

它实际上是一种非常优雅的继续无所事事的方式,

而 esg 因其感觉

良好的因素而起飞,所以 10 年前

就今天管理的全球资产而言,ESG 几乎为零。

它已经

是专业管理的三分之一美元,换句话说,专业

管理

的三分之一美元

假装它是在考虑到 ESG 因素的情况下进行管理的

很快就会 100%

的资产管理,因为它

非常优雅,因为我们公民

想要清洁的投资产品,

但 esg 至少存在四个

问题,这至少是

四个问题

第一个问题是

没有披露

环境社会或治理风险的标准

,因此公司所做的就是在它们

之间套利,

他们找到最佳标准以

获得最佳

治理等级,然后他们去

那个标准,坦率地说

标准化是一个完整的动物园,

但希望能

有所作为 第二个问题

是滥用现象普遍存在

我们都知道森林砍伐是

气候变化的主要驱动力

78 共同基金提供

ESG 投资产品

您认为

实际有多少 过滤他们的

森林砍伐风险投资答案是

零零也定价气候风险

并在投资时考虑

到第三个问题是

史诗般的绿色清洗我的意思是史诗般的

绿色清洗它几乎太漂亮了

无法

描述但我会给你一个 2020 年我

最喜欢的

例子 美国有 253 只

基金转为

关注 ESG 重点

87% 中的 253 只基金修改了名称 e

通过添加诸如气候、

可持续、绿色

或 esg 之类的内容,猜测有多少人

改变了他们的基础投资组合,

最初为零

,遗憾的是,第四个问题

实际上更大、更

致命。

你如何与你的利益相关者打交道

我可以接受我可以接受这两个

可以放在一个桶里,希望

投资者会读到,

但e是关于环境破坏,

这是完全不同的事情,它

必须定价,

然后通过收益流动并影响

高管薪酬 目前它

没有这样做

,我们不是在谈论

2019 年全球少数公司对

7.6 万亿美元

的环境破坏负责,他们

没有为此付出代价

,这

是法国

和英国 GDP 总和 7.6 的一倍半 万亿美元

,如果您将气候变化

视为 7.6 的子集,

以几家公司为例

, 我们

对这个问题的看法让我们从

埃克森美孚开始 石油公司埃克森美孚

披露,它每年

要对

7.3 亿吨二氧化碳的

排放负责

变化

和环境的观点

在每吨二氧化碳 50 美元

到每吨二氧化碳 200 美元之间,

这取决于你看哪项研究,

如果你看看现在的拜登政府

,他们的暂定

数字无疑会上升是

51

所以让我们对埃克森公司慷慨一些,

如果你拿 50

乘以 7.3 亿吨,

你会得到 36 和 50

亿美元,即 365

亿美元的气候影响

,埃克森美孚负责

但无处可寻

财务报表

或其收益中并没有

在其高管薪酬

中考虑到它不仅仅是埃克森美孚,它是t中的

每一家

公司 这个世界没有例外

,这

意味着 40 年来,因为我们已经

将环境破坏隐藏

在财务报表之外,

我们所做的是我们确实将

数十万亿美元转移到了

我们将它们发送到的错误地方 寻找更多的

石油更多的天然气更多的煤炭更多的塑料

更多污染的产品

而不是做正确的事情

将它们送到正确的地方这

将意味着今天

我们已经完成了

气候变化

挑战所以

埃克森美孚在一个好年头 200 亿

美元

因此,它的收入被

200 巴斯夫德国化学集团之类的公司误报了,

如果你根据他们的数字做同样的数学计算,他们的收入

被误报了 67

%

67 丰田

每年也赚了大约 200 亿美元,但

如果你把

它的 排放量乘以 50,

你得到 200 亿美元,这

意味着丰田实际上从未

盈利,

而所有的钱都花光了

当它不应该有的时候转向汽油车这是非常

有意义的,

因为如果我们不做饭,

你的电锅炉现在会

比你的燃气锅炉便宜,绿色

已经和我们在一起了,我们将驾驶

电动

飞机,我们 将驾驶电动

船 比尔·盖茨

谈到绿色溢价的谈话,

据他说

,与同类型的化石产品相比,你必须为零碳产品支付的溢价,因此

塑料吸管与

可生物降解的吸管相比,但

事实上,绿色溢价会立即

消失,

如果我们不煮书并

以不同的方式看待,那么

绿色溢价将永远存在

改变世界并立即以最快的方式将其转移到

更安全的地方的最有效杠杆,

从而将

进步与可持续发展相结合

最后,我要说

印度尼西亚人

、拉丁美洲人、非洲人、

阿拉伯人和南亚

人不想搬到瑞典,

他们真的不想或丹麦

他们想呆在家里,但要做到这一点,

他们的家必须是气候 安全

谢谢

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