How to create meaningful connections while apart Priya Parker

greetings Ted community so good to see

you welcome to the latest of our daily

live conversations in these weird days

of the virus good to have you with us

whether you’re getting isolated at home

maybe with with a loved one or with

family

maybe you’re by yourself maybe you have

symptoms our hearts go out to you maybe

you’ve lost someone maybe you know

medical workers on the front line and

you’re worried for them or maybe you

think this whole thing as a pumped-up

panic by the media whoever you are

you’re welcome here for for this next

hour I think it’s an important

conversation you know every morning I I

the first news headline I look at it’s

not a headline it’s it’s a graph there’s

a site war domitor dot info that has

grass side I want to show you the the

graph for that today here’s it looks

like I don’t if you can do this I hope

you like the super high-tech production

values here by the way that is not a

pretty graph that is what exponential

growth looks like more than sixty

thousand new cases outside China today

and in the last two that you know that

in the whole time in China this was

raging

they notched up about eighty thousand

cases on the official numbers the world

outside China in the last two days said

one over a hundred thousand cases and

u.s. is now number one the more the

nation when this was supposed to go away

pretty quickly now has more cases in

anywhere else in the loss of my

eighty-five thousand and growing fast

and New York where I’m sitting where the

whole ten team is based is the epicenter

in the US so it’s a scary time to be

here in New York there’s some truly

horrible stories coming out of some of

the hospitals that are in danger of

getting overrun huge efforts being made

there but and of course many other parts

of the world we’ve we’ve we’ve heard

some of the darker

boys that are out there so it’s you know

it’s it’s an alarming time I’d like

anyone who looks at the numbers

understands what exponential growth is

it’s an alarming time there’ll be days

in the coming couple weeks where sixty

thousand new cases in a day will seem

wonderfully good news and I wasn’t going

to go higher and and so I suspect we’re

in this for a long time to go basically

for many of us just our lives completely

different from what they normally are

many of us isolated in some form or

other at home and in a way we’re the

lucky ones as others who can’t afford to

do that we’re having to go out the works

somehow makes some kind of living and in

doing so may feel that they’re putting

themselves at at risk though you know

these are hard our days and we’re gonna

have to get used to a bunch of new ways

to be a new ways to connect with each

other because we can’t actually be

isolated we’re human beings we’re social

species we have to connect with other

people we just have to and thankfully

there are many ways that it is still

possible to do that many beautiful ways

and ways that we’re discovering and

we’re going to spend this hour devoted

to that and thinking about that I like

to invite on my car’s Whitney Pennington

Rogers that’s currently fair’s curator

Whitney hello how are you I’m doing okay

I’m doing okay and I’m really looking

forward to hearing more about what

you’ve shared just how we can and really

stay connected which i think is so

important for us and so you know where

we’re bringing you an interview today

with Priya Parker she’s the author of

the art of gathering and her work really

focuses on how we can develop and and

and really sustain those meaningful

connections and she’s sharing some

insight onto how we can continue to have

gatherings that are intentional and add

great value to our lives during the

pandemic as Chris mentioned you know on

the point of connection we had some

connectivity issues that would have made

it really challenging for us to invite

Priya to do this interview live so we

pre-recorded it

and you know we really are looking

forward to seeing what you all share

about your own experiences with creating

these connections and so we stopped took

a lot of value from this and look

forward to hearing what your thoughts

are and hope that this is something that

you enjoy listening to well thank you

especially given the comp special

accommodations you had to make thank you

so much for for making the time for this

and I you know I think especially about

having as we’re having a conversation

about connection this feels somehow

really really related and relevant it

seems like it makes a lot of sense that

you know we’re talking about how we can

have connections in these trying times

and create creative ways to do that and

I think Before we jump into this

conversation a little bit more I’d love

to just talk a little bit first about

your own background so you are the

author of a book called the art of

gathering and you know you think a lot

about how we can have meaningful

connections create meaningful gatherings

but you’re not an event planner so I’d

love to hear a little bit more about the

the lens through which you approach

gathering sure so I’m a group conflict

resolution facilitator I’m trained in

the methodology of group dialogue so

basically how do you bring together a

group of people three or more though I’m

often doing it with 12 people or 40

people or 300 people in a room and have

meaningful conversation meaningful

dialogue that actually creates a

different outcome for that community

based on how you structure the

conversation and I wrote this book the

art of gathering in part because I was

frustrated by kind of what popular

culture tells us about what creates

magic between people which if you kind

of boil it down very simply it’s like if

you get the things right if you get the

fish knives right or if you get the food

right or if you get the tablecloth right

everything else will take care of itself

that that magic will happen through

people because of the luck of their

chemistry and I know as a trained

facilitator that that’s just not true

and going to gathering after gathering

in all types of contexts at schools and

the public square

you know conferences birthday parties I

would get really frustrated seeing hosts

take a lot of time and a lot of care and

a lot of love pouring their time and

energy into broadly stuff that doesn’t

really matter or at least doesn’t

actually make connection and intimacy

and meaning and transformation among

people it creates beauty but it doesn’t

necessarily create connection and I

wanted to bring the facilitators lens to

how anybody regardless of where you are

you don’t need a fancy house you don’t

need the right fish knives you don’t

need a specific you know computer

program how anybody can create meaning

with the people in their lives any and

you know at work at home and their

community or in the public square that’s

great and it seems like you know that’s

something that now more than ever we

need to be really thoughtful about that

and I’m curious you know you started to

talk about this a little bit about

people really focusing more on visually

what these gatherings look like I mean

do you feel like collectively we really

struggled with how to create meaningful

gatherings even before we got to this

moment with the coronavirus I think that

many of our gatherings aren’t up to

snuff in terms of being memorable and

transformative to the people in them and

I think this is for a lot of different

reasons I think one of the things that I

studied worse were rituals that actually

create transformation in people and and

powerful rituals tend to be specific and

specificity tends to come from sub

communities so for example like 2

million Romanian red thread tying

ceremonies was a very specific ceremony

from with them for a very specific

community or javanese like tooth filing

ceremonies where where there’s a

specific act and the people part of that

gathering or part of that community

understands like the symbolic act of

each thing they worship the same God

they eat the same things they dress in

the same way and as we’ve become

globalized and diverse and and you know

modern in

in a lot of different ways I would argue

all good things

many of our gatherings in part to try to

not offend one another or assume that we

share the same beliefs have become vague

and diluted and so part of what we’re

struggling with even well before this

with this pandemic is when people are

coming together to mark a specific

occasion or to meet in a specific way we

tend to under structure and under give

less context and under host our

gatherings in a way that actually

creates meaning among people who don’t

all share the same beliefs that’s great

I mean and I think that it’s now that we

are in this moment and we’re spending so

much more time apart from one another

physically it seems like you know

thinking about how we can stay in touch

and how we can stay connected in a

meaningful way that that creates of

course a new challenge but it sounds

like it’s much more than just staying in

touch with each other

so I mean how should we change the lens

of how we think about gatherings now

that we are in this in this moment with

this pandemic so we don’t know how long

this will last and and the biggest

mistake we make whether you’re gathering

online or off is we tend to assume that

the purpose is obvious we tend to assume

that if you’re having a work meeting

it’s to discuss work or if you’re having

a birthday party it’s to mark a birthday

and in this time specifically the

biggest way to actually create a

meaningful gathering for your community

is to first ask what is the need like

what is the need for this specific

community at this specific moment in

time and one of the things I’ve been

watching is as as you know gathering

after gathering is getting postponed or

canceled the ones that are trying to

figure out how to make they’re off on

offline Gathering online need to pause

and actually ask given this new reality

what is the need my community now needs

and not assume that the gathering online

should look exactly the same way as it

did offline just sticking a video camera

in front of one another

I knew you know if you’re a teacher and

you’re trying to figure out how to teach

a course that is you know you have

always taught with people physically

your students physically in the room to

actually pause and not say is my purpose

to teach math perhaps your the purpose

now for the next multiple weeks is to

give confidence to your children to your

students to keep trying through the

mechanism of math I mean I’m kind of

making this up here but part of what the

the key of all of these gatherings is

we’re coming together to make them

meaningful is to actually pause and to

not assume we know what the need is or

we know what the purpose is and to begin

by asking first for the specific

community for my family or my friends or

for my cousins or for my group of

activists or for my board members or for

my neighbors this week this day what is

it that we most need and how might we

gather around that or for some people

who are getting zoomed out you know zoom

caught resumed call after zoom call the

need might actually be to cancel a

gathering so I’m not saying gather more

I’m saying gather better and it seems

that doing that also would be different

for those people who maybe we’re living

with or you know are isolating with and

those who are not actually physically

spending time with so I guess how should

we think about those connections

differently yeah it’s a great question

so you know most many of us are

isolating with family members or

roommates or partners some of us are

alone and most of us are also finding

ways to be connected with those were not

with so I’ll sirs first start with the

communities that we’re that you’re if

you’re isolating within which is a

couple of things you know in conflict

resolution one of the first one of the

first things you do as a as a

facilitator is is create ground rules

you know I think of as EA’s every

gathering as an opportunity for an

interruption and we right now are in the

greatest moment of global interruption

we faced in a long time and one of the

opportunities for an interruption that

this allows is when for those that

you’re you know quarantine

whether they’re the people you normally

live with regularly live with or whether

that you have you’re an adult and you’ve

gone home to your you know your adult

parents and you’re renegotiating what it

actually looks like to live together

during this period when you weren’t

expecting it is to actually first pause

and let’s create some ground rules you

don’t have to call it that but for some

ground rules they say how do we want to

live together how do we want to be

together do we want to have specific

evenings a week where we come together

and we have dinner and are the rest of

the week we’re on our own how do we want

to actually share food and to not assume

that you kind of have to be together the

whole time all the time but to actually

have clear honest conversations to

navigate both physical and psychological

and interconnected space together and

then and then once you’ve done that I

think the the second thing around those

who are isolating and creating

meaningful gatherings together at home

is to really think about you know there

there’s this in my in my book I talk

about the Passover principle which is

the first question I’m not Jewish but

studied many different types of

gatherings in my research and one of the

questions that that the Jews ask during

Passover Seder the first question is

roughly translated as how is this night

different than all other nights and I

think that that is a question that is so

powerful and is applicable to every

gathering you’ve ever hosted

so as you’re home with your family or

with your friends or with your partner

to begin to ask how do you begin to mark

the days so that they don’t all blend in

with each other you know what is Tuesday

evening how do you want to come together

could you you know set up a list of

questions of questions you would never

you know typically ask one another at a

normal evening but how do you actually

come together and answer the you know

thirty four questions to fall in love

with anybody questions or or find a way

to have conversations with your parents

or with your grandparents that that

normal times don’t allow for and then to

your second point around how do we

create meaning or connection with those

who with whom or not with there are you

know melot’s sort of the same question

which is map out your community

and ask what is what do they need and

what do you need and in some cases it

might be just a simple kind of passive

experiencing something together through

connecting and kind of sync watching

something so like the Metropolitan Opera

every night is doing live streams of

their operas around you know online

there’s many types of cultural and art

institutions that are actually making

free a lot of their content and so at

kind of a low participation rate but

just kind of wanting to do something

together the equivalent of going to

watch the movies you can actually sync

watch these things together at a higher

level of engagement one of the forms of

meaning-making is to actually think

about what are the conversations or how

do you want to engage with one another

through either a shared activity or or

or sharing activity over this course of

time I went in 2012 Bruce Springsteen

gave this amazing talk at South by

Southwest where he basically kind of

gave his a musical autobiography so like

the songs that most shaped him as a

seven year old as a 13 year old as a 19

year old as a 23 year old it’s one of

the most amazing speeches you can ever

read and you can you can look it online

actually this is like what a nerd I am I

like read through the speech and then

just played the song on each song and

Spotify to kind of like have the

experience and I was telling this to a

friend and he said why don’t we do that

as a circle of friends

over a series of dinners we you know in

my case is a group of friends who know

each other pretty well and we can kind

of get into the same rut when we hang

out it’s great but it was a sort of this

idea of an interruption in the way that

how do we actually have a different kind

of conversation and so we made up the

rules and we called it seven songs and

the invitation was that each friend each

person gets one evening one dinner one

salon where they come and they bring the

seven songs that most shaped them over

the course of their life their their

full life and the rest of us would agree

to kind of listen to them and also to

the songs and there’s no reason you

couldn’t do that virtually and so when I

say create meaning together you know

meaning is created through specificity

and structure and

a specific purpose and so in this moment

a time when we’re not sure how long will

be social distancing or at least

physically distancing to find really

interesting forms of interruptions among

friends and families to say how do we

actually want to use this time together

and to have perhaps conversations that

we typically wouldn’t have in this kind

of different moment well I love that I

love how it seems like there’s so many

ways that we can take the events that we

already have there are the ways that

we’ve already been connecting and I

really just modify them and adapt them

to this situation that we’re living in

so one thing I’m curious about you you

sort of mention this at the beginning of

your response and thinking about the

ground rules um I’d love to talk a

little bit too about you know what might

some of those ground rules look like

when we’re thinking about how we’re

connecting and gathering with folks you

know as you mentioned in some cases

where maybe you’re isolating together

but maybe that whole living experience

is different that if you’re maybe an

adult child who’s moving home you know

what is what does that look like how do

you have create those ground rules so

that you can connect to meaningfully

gather meaningfully in a space that

maybe is very different from what your

living situation was like before ground

rules help us create a common social

contract to be able to enjoy each other

so the first thing is people often think

like little rules but actually there are

implicit norms that were sort of

navigating implicitly around each other

and often fights come up because our

norms clash or expectations clash and so

before even having a conversation around

sort of ground rules to answer questions

together like how do we want to think

about who uses what space when and

depending on the physical infrastructure

of your house that might be rotating

through there might be one room and one

office and then six different people

wanting to use it it might be who gets

to use the kitchen at different times so

so norms around physical space asking

questions around are there times where

we would like to actually like how much

together time do each want or need

how much like a part time do we each

want or need I know that in some

families and extended families there’s

sort of this norm that when you come

together whether it’s Thanksgiving or

whether it’s you know Easter or Passover

there’s a sense that well we’re never

actually together so you kind of do

everything together all day long right

you eat every meal together you can and

yeah it’s easy to kind of get fall back

into the routine of what it’s like when

you suddenly go home but this time is

very different than that and so part of

this is sort of zooming back and

particularly with adult children within

their parents to begin to ask what are

all of our individual and connecting

collective needs and then how do we

begin to navigate navigate an orient

around this around this this moment

other types of conversations to ask to

have potential years financially are we

sharing costs around certain things how

do we think about if somebody wants to

spend money on something that’s shared

and somebody else’s want to have it like

how do we want to think about that

what are you know rules around

quarantine you know this is also this is

an inherently relational disease right

that’s what a pandemic is and so what

are the rules around which we agree to

enter or exit or procure food and and to

basically you know relationships many of

us are being put into a situation that

we weren’t expecting and one of the best

ways again to begin to navigate that and

not just have it be a defensive time but

a generative time or a creative time

with those with whom you’re sharing

space is to talk about it early and

often and begin to hear about what are

again what our individual needs what our

collective needs and you can also make

it fun but this is you know living

together creates a context in which it’s

better to talk about how you want to

navigate it first and and not just kind

of the hygiene of it but also then how

do we want to actually come together

during this time and use it differently

I love that and I mean I guess also in

thinking about it from the work

perspective you talked about you know

not getting zoomed out but maybe it’s

the reverse it sounds like where you

might come from a space where you’re

constantly seeing your co-workers in

person

day to day for those people who are

working remotely now and the dynamic of

how you gather in those situations also

seem like they might change and benefit

from some rules around what those

gatherings look like you know I guess

what are some unique things that you

think people might face in their work

lives as a result of social distancing

when it comes to gathering absolutely I

think it raises an entire new set of

questions I mean to be clear there have

been MIT there are many global companies

that have already been distributed have

been doing distributing distributive

teaming for for you know decades the

disabled community has very interesting

and has long been advocating for you

know simple things like live-streaming

let alone thinking about digital

participatory ways of coming together so

this is not new for everybody and it’s

new and this scale for most of us and I

think some of the things that these that

that you know the sort of the first week

or at least in the u.s. contacts but you

know the cycles of weeks is it’s putting

us in a situation where all of a sudden

questions of intimacy come up so for

example for many of us were where we’re

showing sides of ourselves this this is

an example of that that we wouldn’t

normally share and in a work context

that could be that could be meaning

having your colleagues see your kitchen

or that could be having your colleagues

see your child or your dog or whatever

it is that typically you would actually

in a work context have the power to

choose to show and so I think the

questions of intimacy are ones that are

going to come up and I and you know

intimacy for intimacy sake particularly

in a power context isn’t necessarily a

good thing

but within within a conscious set up

intimacy to actually bring people into

this moment together and not pretend

that it this isn’t strange is also

helpful so for example questions that

team leaders and people hosting calls

should think about is do you purposely

want to have people actually just have a

white background in the back as a

relative equaliser or do you want to

purposely invite people to put the

camera and

of a part of their home that is

meaningful to them and one isn’t right

or wrong but just to be really

thoughtful about what are you asking

people to share and what are you asking

people to hide or allowing them to keep

for themselves we have different spaces

for different reasons and that’s a good

thing and so part of what’s happening in

this moment is when you’re allowing

because the technology that we have is

is penetrating into spaces that usually

we have more choice whether or not we

want to share and so it sounds like a

big part of that it’s just it’s really

just having those conversations with

each other about what makes the most

sense for that particular group that and

I think the host and particularly the

person who has power in the context you

know to really think about what is the

purpose of this gathering who needs to

be there and what is the need that we’re

trying to fulfill and how do I

temporarily equalize people so the role

of a host I believe has has you have

three roles as a host the first is to

connect people to the purpose of the

meeting and to each other

the second is to protect them from each

other and the third is to temporarily

equalize them and in some context

temporarily equalizing people might mean

showing your background and in other

context temporarily equalizing them

means don’t show the background because

of the stark difference or imbalance

between the people in the room and I

think part of like the responsibility to

host the gathering should not fall

equally across the spectrum of power and

so a boss should really think about what

is needed and how do I set my people up

so that they’re so that they’re able to

focus on the need at hand you know I’ll

take one more second and just say I

think another question that’s coming up

quite often is when do you cancel when

do you postpone and when do you just

bring it on zoom' and again for a host

to say for the person who’s really

thinking about the need of the community

to say well what is it that is essential

in this moment in time and who needs to

be a part of that and to not assume that

every person has to be part of every

zoom meeting but also to not assume that

that everything that you were going to

do anyway still needs to happen there

was a there was a I think it became a

New Yorker cartoon but a joke going

around that said something like

I guess that I guess that work meeting

really could have just been put in an

email so there will be some gatherings

that are canceled and like we will be

better for it and then there will all be

other gatherings that are invented and

we will be better for it I love that and

I just love how there is this is such a

creative poem and it sounds like and and

I’m curious I mean you already shared

some examples of ways that you can turn

some of the meetings and gatherings that

you’ve already had and sort of adapt

them to this moment but I’d love to hear

  • you know what are some I guess unique

ways that you think really it just

applies to the moment we’re living in

that this is the kind of gathering that

only can happen as we’re all you know

spending so much time apart as we’re all

connecting virtually or however whatever

the circumstance is you know what what

our gatherings that feel really unique

to this moment um one of the ones that

I’ve been watching that’s been written

about a lot is a DJ called d-nice last

Wednesday he started basically like

DJing sets from 6:00 p.m. to midnight

six hours at a time Eastern Standard

Time and Friday night and Friday night a

number of kind of famous artists joined

to you know joined the party and then

Saturday night it just kind of took off

in this in this kind of electric way

over a hundred thousand people joined

through Instagram Live and at some point

like people from all around the world

but also a lot of political leaders in

the u.s. like kind of joined and came in

came out Bernie Sanders came in

Elizabeth Warren made a cameo Michelle

Obama came in and and you know that kind

of collective moment of people all

dancing in their own like living room

wherever they are but being able to come

into a virtual Club you know it reminded

me of studio 54 Andy Warhol was was once

asked about his like red in the red rope

and why he like referred to like that

the you know it was like a dictatorship

to get in like no one could get in and

he is he said it’s a dictatorship at the

door

so we can have a democracy on the dance

floor and Dean Isis like experiment to

me was that except it didn’t need to be

a dictatorship at the door and I think

that is unique to this time it was a

democracy at the door and it was a

democracy on the dance floor and I think

people are experimenting in all sorts of

ways of how they can meaningfully gather

there’s there’s a work context which a

lot of people I think most of us have

lost unexpected forms of income by

actually having to not you know be able

to provide a service in person that’s

particularly true of in-person gathering

based businesses like restaurants or

in-person speed-dating companies you

know yoga instructors all types of

people who rely on in-person connections

to to you know for their livelihood and

I think one one thing that you’re seeing

is people who kind of always in the back

of their head thought yeah I should

probably have you know Instagram live

sessions I should probably figure out

how to do this online this is kind of a

forcing mechanism to do that and you can

see every day experiments with from

dance studios like forward forward

spaces to you know

virtual choirs rehearsing I think

they’re called the sofa singers you know

every every week once a week on Sundays

there’s there Casper Turk you’ll is

having something called Sunday

sing-alongs the resistent revival chorus

is doing is also experimenting with how

can they also have you know chorus

rehearsals choir rehearsals but also

have others participate people are

trying a lot of radical experiments

around how do you actually be together

apart and how do we use these

technologies to do it I had a friend who

texted me a picture of she threw a

surprise birthday party for her mother

over unzoom and to me it was also you

know we’re experimenting how to get

online in part this is an

intergenerational experiment

so in that case most of her mother’s

friends weren’t on zoom' and so part of

the act of love was her having to go and

like getting each friend and texting

them and explain them how to down

the app and then getting online and then

having her mother’s partner say hey

honey you know come walk over here in

the laptop I think there’s a show I

think you might want to watch and she

walks over and then he you know opens up

the screen and every all of her friends

are sitting there on these tiny little

squares saying surprise and so I think

we’re experimenting around how do we

actually be together apart in a moment

where we have some of the technology

that other generations couldn’t have

imagined but we haven’t necessarily

thought about using it in this way hmm

that’s that’s great I mean and I think

that that makes me wonder too just what

does this mean for the future you know

when we come out of this do you think

that this there’s going to be a real

shift in the way we think about how we

gather I hope so I think that there will

be some gatherings that will go by the

wayside I think some some work meetings

that are cancelled that nobody misses

and but we’re kind of too weak so we

were too weak to end before or for

political reasons we’ll go and no one

will mention them again and we will be

better for it I think that there will be

certain gatherings that will be

preserved or come back you know kind of

in full force because we realized how

much we value those gatherings there was

a beautiful piece a couple of days ago

it I think it was a video that went

viral online

and then I believe the New York Times

wrote about it of the Irish week and

there’s certain you know there are

certain communities that already have as

I said at the beginning of this call

deeply powerful embedded rituals and

specific sub communities and there are

certain there are certain communities

that actually are very sophisticated

collective gatherers and and the Irish

wake is you know is one of those

examples of people actually coming

physically together people marking

marking death and also remembering and

singing songs together and and and you

know actually gathering around the wake

and in a moment where because of

physical distancing that’s no longer you

know possible one family created this

this ritual this idea that as they drove

their their mother’s body to the

graveyard

neighbors came out and stood six feet

apart to basically pay their respects

and I think that’s a you know it’s an

exist a beautiful example of a temporary

invention of how do we remember and how

do we think about honoring because the

the the desire and the need is so deep

that even if we can’t do it in the way

that we usually do it we can actually

invent ways that still allow for that

collective witnessing and marking and

holding to happen and then I think that

after I think a big change after this

this period this pandemic is our

assumption of what we can do virtually

and and what what do we actually crave

to be together and want to do together

and then what actually is okay to do

apart and I think will become much more

sophisticated and using tools that have

you know that are that are popping up in

all sorts of context digital tools to be

able to do certain things apart and then

I think we will also be very very

grateful to be back together again well

it’s really nice I mean because you

don’t sound fearful I I guess that this

moment is going to ruin the way that we

stay connected it sounds like you you

have a really optimistic approach to

this and that in many ways it sounds

like it might be a good thing that we’re

kind of going through this I wouldn’t

say it’s a good thing that we’re going

through this I think that this is a yes

in a global crisis I think that I and I

think that like any pandemic this will

this affects different communities

differently I think that this is very

dangerous for for communities that are

already isolated I think that this will

exacerbate social and economic

inequality as it already is and I think

you know I there’s been a discussion you

know we are we are in a gathering

recession and I think the question is

whether or not we can stave off the

loneliness boom if we can do things that

allow us that even during this time a

very dire straits if we can find

inventive ways to still to still get

through this together and I think in any

I think

a massive interruption and anytime

there’s a massive interruption it allows

all of us to pause and to ask the

questions well why do we do this in the

first place and I think that’s powerful

thank you and thank you for clarifying

of course I agree that I don’t think

this is a good thing but I instead meant

an opportunity it seems like it presents

an opportunity for us to to reflect and

that seems to be a positive element of

this so thank you for that and you know

I think I’d like I’ll just also oh go

ahead Priya sorry I’ll just say one more

thing I think um the way we gather is

contagious

meaning we define how and what we gather

around if somebody all of a sudden

decides to have a birthday party in a

very different way not only is it kind

of fun and interesting for the people in

that birthday party but every guest

leaves thinking huh maybe I could do my

birthday party a different way or huh

maybe a few no doesn’t have to look that

way or huh maybe a meeting doesn’t have

to look that way and you know one of the

things that’s contagious during this

time also is its courage and one of the

reasons I love collecting all of these

different stories and inventions of how

people are coming together and being

extraordinarily creative about it is is

in part to give each other ideas and

inspiration and one of the things I

would I would ask if you know those who

are watching to send me the examples

that you’re seeing and particularly the

examples that you’re creating yourself

because it actually gives us us hope and

ideas of how we can all do this

differently I actually send out a weekly

newsletter of examples from around the

world of how we’re actually gathering

together apart and and you know I don’t

know if the you know if you can its

Priya Parker calm if you want to send me

emails or examples of gathering ideas

that you’ve been seeing that I’ve been

that have been moving because we all

decide how we want to gather and we

inspire each other by trying to do it

differently that’s great skree and that

sounds like you know thinking about

resources folks might look for if they

just you know decide they want to try

and implement some of these examples you

shared or some of the things you’ve

suggested

that seems like that’s a great way for

them to to do some of that so thank you

you know I’d love to we had some

audience members who sent in questions

in advance to aspirin so I’d love to

dive into a few of those which I think

might be really interesting so one

question from our audience was what tips

would you offer to meaningfully engage

with family or friends who can’t access

vigils that virtual spaces excuse me

like grandparents those who might have

disabilities or impairments or those who

just may not have connectivity strong

connectivity issues in terms of internet

and phone

how could you stay connected with those

those folks it’s a beautiful question a

couple of things one is if they have a

phone line and that’s a big if but if

they have a phone line a landline ways

to one regularly call and create some

kind of moment that they look forward to

there are other types of rituals from

other communities I’ve been told that

German theater groups have a practice

where they come together and read a book

aloud like one book aloud until they’re

done with it

so like over the course of 15 hours

communities come together and one person

reads a chapter and you pass it around

and you eat and you you know drink and

you can and you basically read an entire

book together and you know somebody you

can absolutely do that by like dialing

and the person who’s who’s who can’t

necessarily zoom in but to read together

on the phone if you if four communities

are for people who are completely

isolated digitally or through technology

to find ways at least for the time being

to you know to send them to send them

letters like one of the things we’re

starting to see is to go back to things

like why we why we knit why we make

bread why we learn to create the things

that we do without the help from you

know the outside world and to find ways

to to perhaps pass objects or passed

letters but for those who you know if

there’s no way in and no way out I think

that’s one of the communities that I was

talking about that’s actually

you know that’s a very high risk so

another really great question we had was

how can you get a sense for the feel the

energy in the room when we’re not

physically in the same space what are

some ways that we can recreate that

those connections and that bond when

we’re connecting from apart this is one

of the harder parts about being apart

because we have to at some level created

in our mind psychologically together and

then also create that physical feeling

you know with one’s own body without

actually sharing space with others

around the room so a couple of tips the

first is give your gathering a name and

you know don’t just call it meeting or

don’t just call it birthday party you

know call or dinner party call it the

worn out mom’s hootenanny or call it the

seventh song salon or call it the you

know dance until you drop disco I mean

again I’m making this up but but part of

what names do is that they’re acts of

social priming to get people actually

into a specific psychological and

physical space and so give your

gathering a name the gathering starts

from the moment of discovery meaning

from the moment that the guest actually

understands oh this is something I

attend look forward to the second is

half people bring some kind of physical

object or show some kind of physical

object on their side of the screen

whether it’s starting with you know

asking everybody to bring a vessel with

a favorite drink inside depending on

your time zone and then share a story

about where they got that coffee mug

from third is and this sounds kind of

simple but remind people that they have

a body meaning like they themselves have

a body and that could mean that could

happen in a number of different ways but

whether it means having them actually be

showing they’re like more of than just

their head but actually for like the

intent you know the entire torso though

that also Again’s go if you remember the

early part around intimacy you decide

what you’re what you’re optimizing for

and invite people to also bring a

physical object and put it within the

within the frame of the video a couple

we also we may not be able to be

physically together but audio is a

really powerful connector and so whether

it’s playing a song or inviting somebody

to choose a favorite song that they want

to share at the group or some kind of

again audio response to begin a to begin

a a moment with can also kind of just

help you unify people but the the feel

of the physical connection being in the

group being in a room is one of those

things that I think we will be deeply

craving after this period and you know

you talked a lot about the workplace you

talked a lot about home and another

really great question that we have from

our audience is about the number of

children and students who are now you

know learning remotely and and what are

some tips I think for educators and even

for parents to try and create these

meaningful gatherings for for children

yep

so first is particularly an educator to

really ask what is the deepest need now

what is it that I’m trying to teach my

students and at the deeper level like

what is the purpose of this class and I

use the example of my my mother-in-law

who’s an educator and she’s a ceramics

teacher she she so she teaches in a form

that is deeply physical right and you

actually need certain materials a kiln

you know clay and she now has to figure

out how to teach ceramics for the next

many weeks you know virtually and so she

paused and she said what is the purpose

of my class is it to teach students

ceramics and she realized no ceramics is

her medium but the deeper purpose is

twofold

one is to is to help her students her

art students have a relationship with

three multi-dimensional art so not just

flat art not just photography or

painting but multi-dimensional and then

the second is she told me the other day

it’s to give her

students a sense that they can create

something from nothing and so she

thought about it and in her case what

she decided to do over the course of the

next multiple weeks is change her

curriculum to teach these two lessons

through paper mache and found objects in

the home and I love this example in part

because for each of us whatever we’re

trying to do as educators or parents is

to pause and to ask like what is the

need of these students or was the need

of these children now and to look at the

people in front of you but to also ask

your own deeper mission or purpose is

like why do I do this and given the

constraints now how do i how should i

structure this gathering now given these

new constraints so that i can still

achieve my purpose but the activity may

actually look very different it’s great

and you know I mean I think also and

you’ve talked you’ve touched on some of

this too like great smaller ways that

you can sort of break the ice with folks

and and really find a path into these

great connections virtually and apart

and and so somebody asked you know that

they said they’re organizing a digital

birthday party and they were just

curious for ways to bring people look

together who maybe don’t know one

another so how can you connect with with

people who you had no connection with

before before entering these digital

these digital events and gatherings I

actually think this is an opportunity

where virtual gatherings connect can

help depending on how you structure it

so at many birthday parties people come

together and don’t know each other and

leave not knowing each other I mean

memories and hello or met one person out

of like 40 people they don’t know but I

actually think in a context where you

kind of have to like play turbo host

this is an opportunity and an excuse to

have people actually meaningfully

participate and get to know each other

in a way that they may not otherwise so

a couple of examples if it’s a birthday

party

virtual birthday party to invite each

guest to bring with them like a sweet a

drink a hat of their choice and a story

of of a value or a quality or a tray

that the birthday girl a birthday boy

hold and how they know that and invite

each person to share story you know and

again you’re gonna have to have like a

chief like birthday facilitator and it

shouldn’t be the birthday girl or boy to

actually you know when you ask people’s

stories that relate to the person

they’re interesting not just because

you’re saying oh this person’s so great

or but it’s actually giving a lot of

people context about the person but also

about your relationship to them and so

find ways to have people come together

and each have a moment to share

something related to the person but

again through a story not necessarily

advice or an opinion because stories

have legs stories are easy to listen to

stories also have a lot of data in them

that very few other vessels do that’s

really great this has been so wonderful

pre I feel like I I know that I’m really

excited to try some of these these tools

and tips that you’ve offered and these

suggestions I think will really help

assisting a lot of people through these

next few weeks and months and beyond as

we come out of this so I you know I

think before we end I just love to give

you an opportunity to to share any sort

of parting thoughts you have about your

really big takeaways from what we should

take from this moment as we think about

connecting in meaningful ways I think

that we are all in the neck in the

coming weeks and months going to be

hosts of many new types of gatherings

and guests of many two new types of

gatherings and as we do have an

opportunity in each of these moments to

not go on autopilot which is often one

of the dangers of our in-person

gatherings and to ask for every

gathering like why are we doing this do

we still need to do this now what is

essential to preserve and how do we give

life to it in this new medium I think to

think about power dynamics and to ask

what are you actually asking of people

in this moment and is it you know is it

too much this this this pandemic will

weigh on us in different ways unequally

and so as you’re beginning to think

about how and what do we mark

how do you ask and what do you expect

from different people given given a very

difficult and dire time and and again

I’ll say what I said earlier which is we

really inspire each other through

through specific examples of invention

and so too as you as you as you try out

new things and and also in the work

context as you think about what is it

that actually makes meetings work and

meaningful experimenting with shortening

the time of meetings experimenting with

spending more time on checking in and

perhaps only having meetings for

decision-making and not doing meetings

for anything else like to actually start

really sharing lessons with one another

and to please share your examples with

me because I learn every time I hear of

ways that wherever people are in the

world they’re inventing new ways of

coming together in ways that communities

need thank you so much Priya this has

been wonderful and I really appreciate

you taking the time to chat and sending

best wishes to you and all of your loved

ones to stay safe and healthy during

this time thank you thank you so much

for having me and be well

问候特德社区很高兴看到

在病毒这些奇怪的日子里欢迎我们最新的每日现场对话

很高兴有你和我们在一起

无论你是在家里被隔离

也许是与亲人或

家人

也许你 独自一人也许你有

症状,我们的心向你倾诉也许

你失去了一个人也许你认识

前线的医务人员,

你为他们担心,或者你

认为这整件事是

由 媒体,无论你是谁

,下一个

小时

都欢迎来到

这里 一面我想给你

看今天的图表,

如果你能做到,我希望

你喜欢这里的超高科技

产值,这不是一个

漂亮的图表,它是指数

增长看起来像

今天在中国境外有六万多例新病例

,在过去的两天里,你知道

在中国整个时间里,这都在

肆虐,

他们在过去两天中国境外

的官方数字上增加了大约八万例。

十万箱和

我们 现在是第一名

,这个国家应该很快消失

总部是美国的震中

,所以在纽约这里是一个可怕的时刻

,一些医院正在传出一些真正可怕的故事,

这些医院有被超越的危险,

那里正在做出巨大的努力

,当然还有许多其他

地方 我们所拥有的世界 我们已经听到了

一些黑暗的

男孩,所以你知道

这是一个令人担忧的时刻

在接下来的几周内,

每天有 6 万例新病例似乎是

非常好的消息,而且我不会

走得更高,所以我怀疑我们将

在很长一段时间内基本上

对许多人来说 我们只是我们的生活完全

di 与他们通常的情况

不同,我们中的许多人在家里以某种形式或其他方式被孤立

,在某种程度上,我们是

幸运的,因为其他人负担

不起,我们不得不出去工作,

以某种方式做出某种形式 生活和

这样做可能会觉得他们将

自己置于危险之中,尽管您知道

我们的日子很艰难,我们将

不得不习惯一堆新的

方式来成为彼此联系的新方式

因为我们实际上不能被

孤立 我们是人类 我们是社会

物种 我们必须与其他

人建立联系 我们必须这样做 谢天谢地

,我们仍然

可以通过许多美丽的方式

和方式做到这一点 ‘正在发现,

我们将花这个小时专门讨论这个问题

,并考虑我

喜欢邀请我的汽车的惠特尼彭宁顿

罗杰斯,目前公平的策展人

惠特尼你好,我过得还好,

我过得还好,我 我真的很

期待听到更多关于

你分享的内容 了解我们如何能够并真正

保持联系,我认为这

对我们来说非常重要,所以你知道

我们今天要带你去哪里

采访 Priya Parker,她

是聚会艺术的作者,她的工作真正

专注于我们如何能够 发展

并真正维持这些有意义的

联系,她分享了一些

关于我们如何继续

进行有意识的聚会并

在大流行期间为我们的生活增加巨大价值的见解,

正如克里斯提到的,你知道在联系

点上我们遇到了一些

联系问题 这会让

我们很难邀请

Priya 现场进行这次采访,所以我们

预先录制了它

,你知道我们真的很

期待看到你们

分享你自己建立

这些联系的经历,所以我们停止了

从中获得了很多价值,

期待听到您的

想法,并希望这是

您喜欢听的东西,

尤其是g 鉴于

您必须提供的补偿特殊住宿,非常感谢您

抽出时间来做这件事

,我知道我特别想

在我们就联系进行对话时

,这感觉

真的很相关和相关,

似乎是这样 很有意义,

你知道我们正在谈论我们

如何在这些艰难时期

建立联系并创造创造性的方式来做到这一点,

我想在我们进入这个对话之前,我

想谈谈 首先介绍一下

你自己的背景,所以你是

一本名为《聚会的艺术》的书的作者

,你知道你想了很多

关于我们如何

建立有意义的联系来创造有意义的聚会,

但你不是活动策划者,所以我很

喜欢 听到更多关于

你接近收集的镜头的信息

所以我是一个团体冲突

解决促进者我接受

过团体对话方法的培训所以

基本上你是如何聚集在一起的 一

组三个或更多的人,尽管我

经常

在一个房间里和 12 人、40 人或 300 人一起做

有意义的

对话 写这本书

的部分原因是聚会的艺术,因为

流行

文化告诉

我们什么在人与人之间创造了魔力,这

让我感到

沮丧 刀具正确,食物

正确,桌布正确,

其他一切都会自行解决

,由于人们的化学运气,魔术会通过人们发生

,我作为训练有素的

促进者知道这不是真的

在学校和公共广场的各种场合聚会之后去聚会

你知道会议生日聚会

看到主人带走我会很沮丧

大量的时间、大量的关心

和大量的爱将他们的时间和

精力投入到那些

无关紧要的事情上,或者至少

实际上并没有在人们之间建立联系、亲密

、意义和转变,

它创造了美丽,但它

不一定会建立联系,我

想把引导者的镜头

带到任何人身上,无论你身在何处,

你不需要华丽的房子你

不需要合适的鱼刀你

不需要特定的你知道的计算机

程序 任何人都可以

在他们的生活中为人们创造意义,

你知道在家里和他们的

社区或公共广场上工作,这

很棒,看起来你知道

这是现在比以往任何时候都更

需要真正深思熟虑的事情

我很好奇你知道你开始

谈论这个关于

人们真正更关注

视觉这些聚会的样子我的意思

是你觉得我们集体

真的很难

甚至在

我们遇到冠状病毒的这一刻之前

就创建

有意义的

聚会 认为我

研究得更糟的一件事是实际上会

在人们身上产生转变的仪式,而

强大的仪式往往是具体的,

具体往往来自子

社区,例如,200

万罗马尼亚红线系结

仪式是一个非常具体的

仪式 与他们一起参加一个非常特定的

社区或爪哇人的牙齿锉

仪式,其中有

特定的行为,该

聚会的一部分或该社区的一部分的人们

理解就像每件事的象征

性行为他们崇拜同一个上帝

他们吃同样的东西他们

以同样的方式穿着,随着我们变得

全球化和多样化,而且你

以很多不同的方式了解现代我会 争论

所有好事

我们的许多聚会部分是为了

不冒犯彼此或假设我们

拥有相同的信念已经变得模糊

和淡化,因此我们在

这场大流行病爆发之前就在努力解决的部分问题

是当人们

聚在一起是为了纪念一个特定的

场合或以特定的方式见面

我的意思是,我认为现在我们

正处于这一刻,我们在身体上

彼此分开的时间越来越多

,似乎你知道

我们在思考

如何保持联系以及如何在

有意义的情况下保持联系 这

当然会带来新的挑战,但

听起来这不仅仅是保持

联系,

所以我的意思是我们应该如何改变

我们现在对聚会的看法

这个大流行的时刻,所以我们不知道

这会持续多久,并且

无论您是在线还是离线聚会,我们犯的最大错误

是我们倾向于

假设目的很明显我们倾向于

假设如果 你开工作

会议是为了讨论工作,或者如果你

开生日派对是为了纪念一个生日

,特别是在这个时候,

为你的社区真正创造一个有意义的聚会的最大方式

是首先问有什么需要 就像

在这个特定的时刻对这个特定的社区有什么需求,

我一直在观察的一件事

是,正如你所知,一次又一次的

聚会被推迟或

取消,那些试图

弄清楚如何让他们 '

离线在线聚会需要暂停

并实际询问鉴于这个新现实

我的社区现在需要什么

而不是假设在线聚会

应该看起来与离线聚会完全一样

只是坚持 一个摄像机

在彼此面前

我知道你知道如果你是一名老师并且

你正在试图弄清楚如何教授

一门你知道你

总是与人一起教的课程

你的学生在房间里

实际 暂停而不是说我

教数学的目的也许你

现在接下来几周的目的是

让你的孩子有信心让你的

学生继续尝试

数学的机制我的意思是我在

这里编造这个但是

所有这些聚会的关键部分是

我们聚在一起使它们

有意义是真正停下来,

不要假设我们知道需要是

什么或我们知道目的是什么,而是

首先要求 本周这一天

,我的家人、我的朋友

、我的表兄弟、我的激进分子团体、

我的董事会成员或

我的邻居的特定社区

我们最需要什么,我们如何

聚集在这个社区或一些

人 得到 ing缩小了你知道zoom

在zoom通话后被恢复通话

实际上可能需要取消

聚会所以我不是说聚集更多

我是说聚集得更好而且似乎

这样做

对于那些可能的人来说也会有所不同 我们住

在一起,或者你知道正在隔离,而

那些实际上并没有

花时间在一起的人,所以我想我们应该如何以

不同的方式看待这些联系是的,这是一个很好的问题,

所以你知道我们中的大多数人都

与家人或

室友或合作伙伴 我们中的一些人是孤独的,我们中的

大多数人也在

想办法与那些没有联系的人建立联系

,所以先生们,我首先要从

我们所在的社区开始,如果

你在其中孤立的话

您在解决冲突中知道的几件事

作为协调人,您首先要做的事情之一

就是制定基本规则,

您知道我认为 EA 的每次

聚会都是

中断的机会 我们现在正

处于很长一段时间以来面临的全球中断的最严重时刻,而这种中断的机会之一是

,您认识的人何时

隔离,

无论他们是否是您通常

住的人 经常和你一起生活,或者

你是否有你是一个成年人,你

已经回家了你认识你的成年

父母,并且你正在重新协商在这段时间

里生活在一起的实际

情况,而你没

想到会是 实际上首先暂停

,让我们创建一些基本规则,你

不必这么称呼它,但对于一些

基本规则,他们说

我们想如何生活

在一起我们想在一起我们是否希望每周有特定的

晚上 我们聚

在一起吃晚饭,剩下

的一周我们一个人

呆着

清晰诚实的表达 将

物理和心理

以及相互关联的空间一起导航,

然后,一旦你完成了这些,我

认为围绕

那些在家里隔离和创造

有意义的聚会的人的第二件事

是真正考虑你知道

有这个 我在我的书中

谈到了逾越节原则,这是

我不是犹太人的第一个问题,但

在我的研究中研究了许多不同类型的聚会,以及

犹太人在逾越节家宴期间提出的问题之一,

第一个问题

大致翻译为 这个

夜晚与其他所有夜晚有何不同?我

认为这是一个非常强大的问题

,适用于

您曾经举办过的每一次聚会

,例如您在家与家人

、朋友或伴侣

一起 开始问你如何开始

标记日子,这样它们就不会

相互融合你知道星期二

晚上是什么时候你想怎么聚在一起

可以吗? 你知道设置一个

你永远不会知道的问题列表,

通常在一个

正常的晚上互相问,但你如何真正

聚在一起回答你知道的

34 个问题,以

爱上任何人的问题,或者找到一个

与您的父母

或祖父母进行

正常时间不允许的对话的方式,然后到

您的第二点,关于我们如何

与您知道与谁或不与您在一起的人创造意义或

联系 同样的

问题是规划您的社区

并询问他们需要什么以及

您需要什么,在某些情况下,它

可能只是一种简单的被动

体验,通过

连接和同步观看

诸如大都会歌剧院之类的东西

每天晚上都在直播

他们的歌剧你知道网上

有很多类型的文化和艺术

机构实际上在

免费提供很多他们的内容 t 等等,

参与率很低,但

只是想一起做一些事情

,相当于

去看电影,你实际上可以同步

观看这些事情

,参与度更高,

意义创造的一种形式是 在我 2012 年去的这段时间里,真正

思考对话是什么,或者

你想如何

通过共享活动或共享活动与彼此互动,

布鲁斯·斯普林斯汀 (Bruce Springsteen

) 在 South by Southwest 做了这个精彩的

演讲 有点

像给他的音乐自传,就像

那些最能塑造他的歌曲一样,从

7 岁到 13 岁,从 19

岁到 23 岁,这是

你能读到的最令人惊叹的演讲之一

,你能 可以在网上看

实际上这就像我是个书呆子我

喜欢通读演讲,然后

在每首歌曲和Spotify上播放歌曲

,有点像有

经验,我正在告诉

朋友 他说我们为什么不

作为一个朋友圈

在一系列晚宴上这样做,在

我的情况下,我们是一群彼此非常了解的朋友,

当我们挂起时,我们可能会陷入同样的困境

很好,但这

是一种打断方式的想法,

我们实际上如何进行不同类型

的对话,所以我们制定了

规则,我们称之为七首歌

,邀请是每个朋友每个

人 得到一个晚上 一顿晚餐 一个

沙龙 他们来的地方 他们带来了

七首

在他们

的一生中最

能塑造他们

的歌曲 没有理由你

不能虚拟地做到这一点,所以当我

说一起创造意义时,你知道

意义是通过特殊性

、结构和

特定目的创造的,所以在这个我们

不确定社会距离或 至少

保持身体上的距离,

在朋友和家人之间找到真正有趣的打断形式,

说出我们

实际上想如何一起度过这段时间,

并进行一些

我们通常不会在

这种不同的时刻进行的对话,我喜欢我

喜欢如何 似乎有很多

方法可以让我们接受我们已经拥有的事件有我们

已经联系的方式

真的只是修改它们并使其

适应我们生活的这种情况

所以一件事我 我很好奇你

在你的回复开始时提到了这一点

并考虑了

基本规则我也很想

谈谈你知道当我们思考时

这些基本规则中的一些可能是什么样的

关于我们如何

与你认识的人联系和聚会,

正如你提到的那样,在某些情况

下,你可能会被隔离在一起,

但也许整个生活经历

是不同的,如果你可能是一个

成年的孩子 o 搬家了 你

知道那是什么样子 你是

如何创建这些基本规则的,

这样你就可以

在一个空间中有意义地进行有意义的聚会

一个共同的社会

契约能够彼此享受

所以第一件事是人们通常认为

是一些小规则,但实际上存在

隐含的规范,它们

隐含地围绕着彼此导航,

并且经常发生争吵,因为我们的

规范发生冲突或期望发生冲突, 因此

,甚至在围绕

某种基本规则进行对话以共同回答问题之前

,例如我们要如何

考虑谁在何时使用什么空间,并且

取决于您房子的物理基础设施

可能会旋转

通过,可能会有一个房间和一个

办公室 然后是六个不同的人

想要使用它,可能是谁

可以在不同的时间使用厨房,

所以围绕 phys 的规范 询问

问题的空间 是否有时

我们真的想真正喜欢

在一起的时间 每个人想要或需要

多少时间

我们每个人都想要或需要

多少时间 当你们聚

在一起时,无论是感恩节

还是复活节或逾越节,都会

有一种感觉,我们从来没有

真正在一起过,所以你们

整天在一起做所有事情

,你们可以一起吃每一顿饭,

是的,很容易 有点回到

你突然回家时的日常生活中,

但这一次

与那有很大不同,所以这部分

是一种缩小,

尤其是

父母中的成年子女开始问什么是

全部 我们的个人需求和相互联系的

集体需求,然后我们如何

开始

围绕这

一点导航一个方向 在财务上,我们是否

在某些事情上分担成本

我们如何考虑是否有人想

花钱购买共享的东西

而其他人想要拥有它,例如

我们想如何考虑

你知道什么 关于

隔离的规则 你知道 这也是

一种与生俱来的相关疾病

,这就是大流行病,

所以我们同意

进入或离开或采购食物的规则是什么,而且

基本上你知道

我们中的许多人都被置于我们所处的

境地 没想到,

再次开始驾驭它的最好方法之一,

不仅仅是让它成为一个防御时间,而是

一个与你共享空间的人的生成时间或创造性时间

就是尽早并经常谈论它

并开始

再次听到我们个人需要什么我们

集体需要什么你也可以让它

变得有趣但这是你知道的生活

在一起创造了一个

更好的谈话环境 关于你想如何

首先导航它,而不仅仅是

它的卫生,还有

我们希望

在这段时间里真正走到一起并以不同的方式使用它

我喜欢它,我的意思是我想也是

你谈到的工作观点你知道

没有被缩小,

但也许情况正好相反

以及

你在这些情况下如何聚集的动态

似乎也可能会改变并

受益于围绕这些

聚集的一些规则你知道我猜

认为人们在他们的工作

生活中可能会因为以下原因而面临一些独特的事情

在绝对聚会方面保持社交距离 我

认为这引发了一系列全新的

问题 我的意思是要明确

有 MIT 有许多全球

公司已经分布 ute

一直在做分布式

团队,你知道几十年来,

残疾人社区非常有趣

,长期以来一直在倡导你

知道简单的事情,比如直播,

更不用说考虑数字

参与的方式了,所以

这对每个人来说都不是新鲜事,而且 这

对我们大多数人来说都是新的,而且这种规模,我

认为有些

事情是你在第一周

或至少在美国就知道的 联系但你

知道几周的循环是它让

我们处于突然

出现亲密问题的情况,

例如,对于我们中的许多人来说,我们

展示了自己的一面,

这是我们的一个例子 通常不会

分享,并且在工作环境中

,这可能意味着

让您的同事看到您的厨房,

或者让您的同事

看到您的孩子或您的狗,

或者您通常

在工作环境中实际会遇到的任何情况

选择展示的力量,所以我认为

亲密关系的问题

将会出现,我和你都知道

亲密关系特别是

在权力背景下不一定是

一件好事,

而是在有意识的设置内

将人们真正带到

这一刻而不是假装

这并不奇怪的亲密关系也

很有帮助,例如,

团队领导和主持电话的人

应该考虑的问题是你是否 非常

希望人们实际上只是

在后面有一个白色背景作为

相对均衡器,或者您是否想

故意邀请人们放置

相机

以及他们家中

对他们有意义的一部分并且没有

对错 但是要真正

考虑一下您要求

人们分享什么以及您要求

人们隐藏什么或允许他们

自己保留我们有不同的空间

出于不同的原因,这是

一件好事,也是此刻正在发生的事情的一部分

是当你允许的时候,

因为我们拥有的技术

正在渗透到通常

我们有更多选择的空间,无论我们是否

想分享,所以听起来很

重要的一部分,它只是真的

只是与每个人进行这些对话

其他关于什么

对那个特定群体最有意义的事情,

我认为主持人,特别是

在你知道的情况下

有权真正思考目的的

人 在这次聚会中,谁

需要在那里,我们正在努力满足什么需求,我

如何

暂时使人们平等,所以

我相信

主持人的角色有你作为主持人的三个角色首先是

连接 人们到会议的目的

和彼此之间

,第二是保护他们免受彼此伤害

,第三是暂时

使他们平等,在某些情况下,

暂时使人们平等可能意味着

展示您的背景,而在其他

情况下,暂时使他们平等

意味着不要” 因为

房间里的人之间存在明显差异或不平衡,所以不显示背景,我

认为

主持聚会的部分责任不应该

平等地落在权力范围内,

所以老板应该真正考虑

需要什么和 我如何设置我的员工,

以便他们能够

专注于手头的需求你知道我会再

花一点时间,只是说我

认为另一个问题即将到来

很多时候是你什么时候取消

什么时候推迟,什么时候你只是

把它打开’,再次让

主持人说,让真正

考虑社区需要的人

说清楚什么是必要的

在这个时刻,谁需要

成为其中的一部分,不要假设

每个人都必须参加每次

变焦会议,但也不要

假设无论如何你要做的一切

仍然需要

发生 有一个我认为它变成了

纽约人的卡通片,但流传

着一个笑话,说

我猜我猜工作会议

真的可以放在

电子邮件中,所以会有一些

聚会被取消,就像我们一样 会

更好,然后会有其他所有的

聚会被发明,

我们会更好 意味着你已经分享了

som 您可以将

一些已经进行过的会议和聚会转变

为使

它们适应这一刻的方法的示例,但我很想听听

-您知道有哪些

我认为您认为的独特方式 只

适用于我们生活的那一刻

,这种聚会

只有在我们都知道时才会发生

我们的聚会对这一刻感觉非常

独特,嗯,

我一直在看的一个被

写了很多的聚会是上周三一个叫 d-nice 的 DJ,

他基本上

就像下午 6:00 开始的 DJ 表演一样 到

东部标准

时间和周五晚上和周五晚上的午夜六个小时,你知道的

一些著名艺术家

加入了聚会,然后

周六晚上,它就

以这种电动方式起飞

了 数十万人

通过 Instagram Live 加入,有时

像来自世界各地的人,

但也包括美国的许多政治

领袖 就像加入进来一样

伯尼·桑德斯进来了

伊丽莎白沃伦客串了

米歇尔奥巴马进来了,你知道

那种集体时刻,人们都

在自己的客厅里跳舞,

无论他们身在何处,但能够

进入 一个虚拟俱乐部,你知道它让

我想起了工作室 54 安迪·沃霍尔曾经

被问到他喜欢红色绳子上的红色,

以及为什么他喜欢这样称呼

你知道这就像一个独裁政权

进入就像没有人能进入一样

他是他说这是门口的独裁,

所以我们可以在舞池里有一个民主,

而迪安伊西斯对我来说就像实验一样

,除了它不需要是

门口的独裁,我认为

这是独一无二的 这次是

门口的

民主,舞池里的民主,我认为

人们正在尝试各种

方式来有意义地聚集

那里有一个工作环境,

很多人我认为我们大多数人 有

失去了意想不到的收入,因为

实际上你不知道 能够

亲自提供服务,

尤其适用于面对面聚会

的企业,如餐馆

或面对面的速配公司 你

认识的瑜伽教练 各种

依赖的人 在与您的面对面联系

中,您知道他们的生计,

我认为您看到的一件事

是人们总是在

脑后认为是的,我

可能应该让您知道 Instagram

现场会议我可能应该想 了解

如何在线执行此操作 这是一种

强制机制,您可以

看到每天从

舞蹈工作室进行实验,例如向前

空间到您知道的

虚拟合唱团排练 我认为

他们被称为沙发歌手,您

每天都知道 每周一次 星期天

那里有 Casper Turk 你将

有一个叫做星期天的

歌唱 抵抗复兴合唱团

正在做的也正在试验如何

ca n 他们也让你知道合唱

排练 合唱排练但也

有其他人参与 人们正在

尝试很多激进的实验,

围绕着你如何真正

分开以及我们如何使用这些

技术来做到这一点 我有一个朋友

给我发了一张照片 她在 unzoom 上

为她的母亲举办了一个惊喜生日派对

,对我来说,你也

知道我们正在尝试如何

上网,部分原因是这是一个

代际实验,

所以在这种情况下,她母亲的大多数

朋友都没有使用 zoom”

所以爱的一部分是她不得不去,

喜欢让每个朋友发短信

给他们,解释他们如何

关闭应用程序,然后上网,然后

让她母亲的伴侣说,嘿,

亲爱的,你知道来

这里 笔记本电脑 我想有一个节目我

想你可能想看 她

走过去 然后他

打开屏幕 她所有的朋友

都坐在这些小

广场上 说惊喜 e 所以我认为

我们正在尝试如何

在我们拥有

其他几代人无法

想象的技术但我们不一定

考虑以这种方式使用

它的时刻真正分开 太好了,我的意思是,我想

这也让我想

知道这对未来意味着什么你知道

当我们摆脱这种情况时,你是否

认为我们思考如何收集的方式会发生真正的

转变

我希望如此,我

认为会有一些聚会被

搁置我认为一些工作

会议被取消,没有人会错过

,但我们有点太弱了,所以

我们太弱了,无法提前结束或出于

政治原因 我们会去的,没有人

会再提到他们

,我们会更好的

曾经是一个 几天前很漂亮的一段

,我认为这是一段在网上疯传的视频

,然后我相信《纽约时报》

写了关于爱尔兰周的文章,而且

你肯定知道

某些社区已经有了,正如

我在 这个电话的开始是

非常强大的嵌入式仪式和

特定的子社区,并且

某些

社区实际上是非常复杂的

集体收集者,而爱尔兰

唤醒是你知道

的人们实际聚集在一起的例子之一,人们

标志着死亡 还有一起记住

和唱歌,而且你

知道实际上聚集在尾声周围

,在一个因为

身体距离而不再

可能的时刻,一个家庭创造了

这个仪式这个想法,当他们把

他们母亲的尸体赶到

墓地的

邻居们站了出来,相距六英尺

,基本上表达了他们的

敬意,我认为 这是一个你知道它是一个

存在的一个美丽的例子,一个

关于我们如何记住以及我们如何考虑尊重的临时发明的美丽例子,

因为渴望和需要是如此深刻

,即使我们不能以这样的方式做到这

一点 我们通常会这样做,我们实际上可以

发明仍然允许

集体见证、标记和

保持发生的方法,然后我认为,

在我认为在这段时间之后发生重大变化之后,

这种流行病是我们

对我们实际上可以做的事情的假设,

并且 我们真正

渴望在一起并想一起做

什么,然后分开做什么实际上是可以的

能够分开做某些事情的工具,然后

我想我们也会非常

感激能再次聚在一起,

这真的很好,我的意思是因为你

听起来并不害怕我猜这

一刻即将到来 n 我们

保持联系的方式听起来你

对此持非常乐观的

态度,并且在很多方面

听起来我们正在经历这可能是一件好事

我不会

说这是一件好事 我们正在经历的

事情 我认为在全球危机中这是肯定的

我认为我和我

认为就像任何流行病一样,这将对

不同的社区产生

不同的影响 我认为这

对于

已经 孤立 我认为这将

加剧社会和经济的

不平等,因为它已经是,我想

你知道我有一个讨论你

知道我们正处于一个日益

严重的衰退中,我认为问题是

我们是否可以避免

孤独 繁荣,如果我们能做一些事情,

即使在这段时间里,

如果我们能找到

创造性的方法,仍然可以

一起度过难关,我认为在任何

认为巨大的中断和任何时间

t 这是一个巨大的中断,它让

我们所有人都可以停下来好好地问

问题,为什么我们首先要这样做

,我认为这很有力

,谢谢你,当然感谢你的

澄清,我同意我不认为

这是 一件好事,但我的意思是

一个机会,它似乎

为我们提供了一个反思的机会,

这似乎是一个积极的因素,

所以谢谢你,你知道

我想我想我也会 哦,继续

吧,Priya,对不起,我只想说一

件事,我认为我们聚集的方式

具有传染性,

这意味着

如果有人突然

决定以一种

非常不同的方式举办生日派对,我们会定义我们聚集的方式和内容,不仅

对参加生日派对的人来说是不是很有趣,

但是每个客人

离开时都在想,也许我可以

用不同的方式举办我的生日派对,或者,

也许一些不,不一定要那样看

,或者,也许会议不需要 不必

那样看,你知道

在这段时间里具有感染力的一件事

也是它的勇气和

我喜欢收集所有这些

不同的故事和发明的原因之一,这些故事和发明是关于

人们如何走到一起并对此

非常有创意的

,部分原因是为了给彼此一些想法 和

灵感以及我想问的一件事,

如果你认识那些

正在观看的人,把你看到的例子发给我

,尤其

是你自己创造的例子,

因为它实际上给了我们希望和

想法 我们都可以

这样做 想给我发

电子邮件或收集想法的例子

,你已经

看到我一直在移动,因为我们都

决定了我们想要如何收集,我们

通过尝试这样做来互相

启发 非常好,

听起来你

知道人们可能会寻找资源

他们这样做的方式,所以谢谢

你知道我很高兴我们有一些

观众

提前向阿司匹林提问,所以我很想

深入探讨一些我认为

可能真的 很有趣,所以

我们的听众提出的一个问题是,

您会提供什么建议来

与无法参加

守夜活动的

家人或

朋友进行有意义

的互动 互联网和电话方面的问题,

您如何与那些人保持联系?

这是一个很好的问题

f 但是如果

他们有电话线 固定电话

经常打电话并创造

某种他们期待的时刻

还有其他社区的其他类型的仪式

我被告知

德国剧院团体有

他们来的地方的做法 一起大声读一本书,就像大声读一本书,

直到他们读完

,就像在 15 个小时的过程中,

社区聚在一起,一个人

读一章,你传阅它

,你吃东西,你知道喝东西,

你可以 你基本上一起读了一整

本书,你认识一个人,你

绝对可以通过拨号来做到这一点,

如果你有四个社区,你可以通过电话一起阅读。

以数字方式或通过技术隔离

至少暂时找到方法

让他们知道 给他们

寄信 就像我们

开始看到的事情

之一就是回到诸如为什么我们为什么这样的事情 我们编织为什么我们做

面包为什么我们学会创造

我们在没有你帮助的情况下所做的事情

知道外面的世界并

找到可能传递物体或传递

信件的方法但对于那些你知道的人来说,如果

没有办法进入并且没有 出路 我认为

这是我所说的社区之一,

实际上

你知道这是一个非常高的风险,所以

我们遇到的另一个非常好的问题是

,当我们不在的时候,你怎么能感觉到房间里的能量

物理上在同一个空间里,有

什么方法可以让我们重新建立

那些联系和联系,当

我们分开时,这

是分开的最困难的部分之一,

因为我们必须在某种程度上

在我们的脑海中在心理上创造在一起,并且

然后

用自己的身体创造你所知道的身体感觉,而无需

与房间周围的其他人实际共享空间,

所以有几个技巧

首先是给你的聚会起个名字,

你知道不要只是把它叫做会议 或者

不要只是把它叫做生日派对,你

知道打电话或晚宴,把它叫做

破旧的妈妈的妓女,或者称之为

第七首歌沙龙,或者称之为你

知道的舞蹈,直到你放弃迪斯科,我的意思是

,我又在编造这个,但是 但

名称的部分作用是它们是一种

社会启动行为,可以让人们真正

进入特定的心理和

身体空间,因此给你的

聚会起一个名字,聚会

从发现的那一刻开始,意思是

从客人真正理解的那一刻开始

哦,这是我

参加的期待第二个是

一半的人带来某种物理

对象或

在屏幕的一侧显示某种物理对象

无论是从你知道

要求每个人带一个装有

最喜欢的饮料的容器开始 取决于

你的时区,然后分享一个

关于他们从哪里得到那个

咖啡杯的故事,这听起来很

简单,但提醒人们他们有

像他们一样的身体意义 自己有

一个身体,这可能意味着这可能

会以多种不同的方式发生,但这

是否意味着让他们实际上

表明他们不仅仅是

他们的头,但实际上是

因为你知道整个躯干的意图

如果你还记得

早期关于亲密关系的部分,你决定

你要优化什么,

并邀请人们也带来一个

物理对象并将它放在

视频的框架内,

我们也可能不是一对夫妇 能够

物理上在一起,但音频是一个

非常强大的连接器,因此

无论是播放歌曲还是邀请

某人选择他们想要在小组中分享的最喜欢的歌曲,

或者某种

再次音频响应来开始一个

时刻 也可以

帮助你团结人们,但是在一个房间

里的团体中的身体联系的感觉

是我认为

在这段时间之后我们会非常渴望的事情之一,你k 现在

你谈了很多关于工作场所的

话题 你谈了很多关于家庭的话题

,我们从观众那里得到的另一个非常好的问题

是关于

现在你知道远程学习的孩子和学生的数量,以及

我认为对教育工作者有哪些建议 甚至

让父母尝试

为孩子们创造这些有意义的聚会,

是的,

所以首先是一位教育工作者,要

真正问现在最深的需求

什么 这门课的目的,

我以我岳母为例,

她是一名教育工作者,她是一名陶瓷

老师,她以

一种非常符合身体权利的形式教授,你

实际上需要某些材料一个窑

你知道粘土 她现在必须

弄清楚如何在接下来的

几个星期里教陶瓷,所以她

停了下来,她说我上课的目的

是教学生

陶瓷,她意识到没有 陶瓷是

她的媒介,但更深层次的目的是

双重的,

一是帮助她的学生,她的

艺术学生与

三种多维艺术建立关系,所以不仅仅是

平面艺术,不仅仅是摄影或

绘画,而是多维,

然后第二个是她 前几天告诉我,

这是为了让她的

学生有一种感觉,他们可以

从无到有创造一些东西,所以她

考虑了这一点,在她的情况下,

她决定在

接下来的几周内改变她的

课程来教授这两个

通过纸浆和在家中发现的物品

进行课程,我喜欢这个例子的部分

原因是,对于我们每个人来说,无论

我们作为教育者或父母所做的一切

都是停下来,问问

这些学生的需求是什么,或者是

现在需要这些孩子,看看

你面前的人,但也要问问

你自己更深层次的使命或目的,

就像我为什么要这样做,鉴于

现在的限制,我应该如何

组织这次聚会 鉴于这些

新的限制,现在响起,这样我仍然可以

实现我的目的,但活动

实际上可能看起来非常不同,这很好

,你知道我的意思是我也认为,

你说过你已经触及了其中一些

,就像伟大的更小的方式

你可以与人们打破僵局

,并真正找到通往这些

伟大联系

的途径 人们

聚在一起,可能彼此不认识,

所以在进入这些数字之前

,您如何与以前没有联系的人联系

这些数字事件和聚会我

实际上认为这是一个机会

,虚拟聚会可以

帮助取决于 你是如何

在许多生日派对上构建它的,人们聚

在一起,彼此

不认识,彼此不认识,我的意思是

回忆,你好,或者遇到一个人

大约有 40 个人他们不认识,但我

实际上认为在

你必须喜欢玩 turbo 主机的情况下,

这是一个机会和借口,

让人们真正有意义地

参与并

以一种方式相互了解

如果这是一个生日

聚会

虚拟生日聚会,他们可能不会有几个例子,邀请每位

客人随身携带甜食,

一杯饮料,一顶他们选择的帽子,以及

关于价值或品质的故事或托盘

的故事 生日女孩,生日男孩

,以及他们是如何知道的,并邀请

每个人分享您知道的故事,并且

您将不得不再次拥有

像生日主持人这样的酋长

,实际上您不应该是生日女孩或男孩

当你问

人们与这个人有关的故事时,

他们很有趣,不仅仅是因为

你说哦,这个人太棒了,

或者它实际上给了很多

人关于这个人的背景,

还有你和他们的关系 o

想办法让人们聚在一起

,每个人都有时间分享

与这个人有关的东西,但

再次通过故事不一定是

建议或意见,因为故事

有腿 故事很容易听

故事也有很多数据

很少有其他船只这样做,这

真的很棒,这真是太棒了,

我觉得我知道我很

高兴尝试您提供的这些工具

和技巧中的一些,

我认为这些建议将真正有助于

帮助 很多人在

接下来的几周、几个月甚至更久的时间里

结束了,所以我知道我

想在我们结束之前,我很乐意给

你一个机会来分享

你对你

真正重要的收获的任何离别想法

我们考虑以有意义的方式进行联系时,

从这一刻起我们应该采取的措施

许多两种新类型的

聚会,因为我们确实有

机会在每一个时刻

不进行自动驾驶,这通常

是我们面对面聚会的危险之一,

并要求每次

聚会都像我们为什么要这样做一样

我们现在仍然需要这样做 什么是

必须保存的,我们如何

在这个新媒体中赋予它生命 我

认为考虑权力动态并

问你在这一刻实际上对人们有什么要求,

你知道吗?

太多了,这种流行病

将以不同的方式给我们带来不平等的压力

,因此,当您开始考虑

我们如何标记以及标记

什么时,鉴于非常困难和可怕的情况,您如何询问以及您对不同人的期望是什么

一次又一次,

我会说我之前说过的话,我们

通过具体的发明例子真正地相互启发

,当你尝试

新事物时,以及在工作

环境中思考什么 是不是

那个动作 真正让会议变得

有意义 尝试

缩短会议时间 尝试

花更多时间签到,

也许只是为了决策而开会,

而不是

为其他任何事情开会 开始真正开始

彼此分享课程

并取悦他人 和我分享你的例子,

因为我每次听到世界上

任何地方的人

都在发明新

的方式,以社区需要的方式聚集在一起,

非常感谢你,Priya,

这太棒了,我真的很感谢

你 是时候聊天了