The fundamental right to seek asylum Melanie Nezer

Last summer, I got a call
from a woman named Ellie.

And she had heard about the family
separations at the southern border

and wanted to know
what she could do to help.

She told me the story
of her grandfather and his father.

When they were kids in Poland,

their father,

fearing for his son’s safety,

gave them a little bit of money
and told them to walk west,

to just keep walking west across Europe.

And they did.

They walked all the way
west across Europe,

and they got on a boat
and they got to America.

Ellie said that when she heard
the stories of the teens

walking up across Mexico,

all she could think about
was her grandfather and his brother.

She said that for her, the stories
were exactly the same.

Those brothers were
the Hassenfeld Brothers –

the “Has” “bros” –

the Hasbro toy company,

which, of course, brought us
Mr. Potato Head.

But that is not actually why
I’m telling you this story.

I’m telling you this story
because it made me think

about whether I would have the faith,

the courage,

to send my teens –
and I have three of them –

on a journey like that.

Knowing that they wouldn’t
be safe where we were,

would I be able to watch them go?

I started my career decades ago
at the southern US border,

working with Central American
asylum seekers.

And in the last 16 years,
I’ve been at HIAS,

the Jewish organization that fights
for refugee rights around the world,

as a lawyer and an advocate.

And one thing I’ve learned
is that, sometimes,

the things that we’re told
make us safer and stronger

actually don’t.

And, in fact, some of these policies
have the opposite of the intended results

and in the meantime, cause tremendous
and unnecessary suffering.

So why are people showing up
at our southern border?

Most of the immigrants and refugees
that are coming to our southern border

are fleeing three countries:
Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

These countries are consistently ranked

among the most violent
countries in the world.

It’s very difficult to be safe
in these countries,

let alone build a future
for yourself and your family.

And violence against
women and girls is pervasive.

People have been fleeing Central America

for generations.

Generations of refugees
have been coming to our shores,

fleeing the civil wars of the 1980s,

in which the United States
was deeply involved.

This is nothing new.

What’s new is that recently,
there’s been a spike in families,

children and families,
showing up at checkpoints

and presenting themselves to seek asylum.

Now, this has been in the news lately,

so I want you to remember a few things
as you see those images.

One, this is not a historically high level
of interceptions at the southern border,

and, in fact, people are presenting
themselves at checkpoints.

Two, people are showing up
with the clothes on their backs;

some of them are literally in flip-flops.

And three, we’re the most
powerful country in the world.

It’s not a time to panic.

It’s easy from the safety
of the destination country

to think in terms of absolutes:

Is it legal, or is it illegal?

But the people who are wrestling
with these questions

and making these decisions
about their families

are thinking about
very different questions:

How do I keep my daughter safe?

How do I protect my son?

And if you want absolutes,

it’s absolutely legal to seek asylum.

It is a fundamental right in our own laws
and in international law.

And, in fact –

(Applause)

it stems from the 1951 Refugee Convention,

which was the world’s response
to the Holocaust

and a way for countries to say never again
would we return people to countries

where they would harmed or killed.

There are several ways
refugees come to this country.

One is through the US Refugee
Admissions Program.

Through that program, the US identifies
and selects refugees abroad

and brings them to the United States.

Last year, the US resettled fewer refugees

than at any time since
the program began in 1980.

And this year, it’ll probably be less.

And this is at a time when we have
more refugees in the world

than at any other time
in recorded history,

even since World War II.

Another way that refugees
come to this country is by seeking asylum.

Asylum seekers are people
who present themselves at a border

and say that they’ll be persecuted
if they’re sent back home.

An asylum seeker is simply somebody
who’s going through the process

in the United States

to prove that they meet
the refugee definition.

And it’s never been
more difficult to seek asylum.

Border guards are telling people
when they show up at our borders

that our country’s full,
that they simply can’t apply.

This is unprecedented and illegal.

Under a new program,

with the kind of Orwellian title
“Migrant Protection Protocols,”

refugees are told
they have to wait in Mexico

while their cases make their way
through the courts in the United States,

and this can take months or years.

Meanwhile, they’re not safe,

and they have no access to lawyers.

Our country, our government,
has detained over 3,000 children,

separating them from their parents' arms,

as a deterrent from seeking asylum.

Many were toddlers,

and at least one was
a six-year-old blind girl.

And this is still going on.

We spend billions to detain people
in what are virtually prisons

who have committed no crime.

And family separation has become
the hallmark of our immigration system.

That’s a far cry from a shining city
on a hill or a beacon of hope

or all of the other ways we like to talk
about ourselves and our values.

Migration has always been with us,
and it always will be.

The reasons why people flee –
persecution, war, violence,

climate change

and the ability now to see on your phone
what life is like in other places –

those pressures are only growing.

But there are ways that we can have
policies that reflect our values

and actually make sense,
given the reality in the world.

The first thing we need to do
is dial back the toxic rhetoric

that has been the basis of our national
debate on this issue for too long.

(Applause)

I am not an immigrant or a refugee myself,

but I take these attacks personally,
because my grandparents were.

My great-grandmother Rose
didn’t see her kids for seven years,

as she tried to bring them
from Poland to New York.

She left my grandfather
when he was seven

and didn’t see him again
until he was 14.

On the other side of my family,

my grandmother Aliza
left Poland in the 1930s

and left for what was then
the British Mandate of Palestine,

and she never saw
her family and friends again.

Global cooperation as a response
to global migration and displacement

would go a long way towards making
migration something that isn’t a crisis

but something that just is,

and that we deal with
as a global community.

Humanitarian aid is also critical.

The amount of support we provide
to countries in Central America

that are sending refugees and migrants

is a tiny fraction of the amount
we spend on enforcement and detention.

And we can absolutely
have an asylum system that works.

For a tiny fraction of the cost of a wall,

we could hire more judges,

make sure asylum seekers have lawyers

and commit to a humane asylum system.

(Applause)

And we could resettle more refugees.

To give you a sense of the decline
in the refugee program:

three years ago, the US resettled
15,000 Syrian refugees

in response to the largest
refugee crisis on earth.

A year later, that number was 3,000.

And last year, that number was 62 people.

62 people.

Despite the harsh rhetoric
and efforts to block immigration,

keep refugees out of the country,

support for refugees and immigrants
in this country, according to polls,

has never been higher.

Organizations like HIAS, where I work,

and other humanitarian
and faith-based organizations,

make it easy for you to take a stand

when there’s a law that’s worth opposing

or a law that’s worth supporting
or a policy that needs oversight.

If you have a phone,

you can do something,

and if you want to do more, you can.

I will tell you that if you see
one of these detention centers

along the border

with children in them – they’re jails –

you will never be the same.

What I loved so much
about my call with Ellie

was that she knew in her core
that the stories of her grandparents

were no different than today’s stories,

and she wanted to do something about it.

If I leave you with one thing,

beyond the backstory
for Mr. Potato Head,

which is, of course,
a good story to leave with,

it’s that a country shows strength

through compassion and pragmatism,

not through force and through fear.

(Applause)

These stories of the Hassenfelds
and my relatives and your relatives

are still happening today;
they’re all the same.

A country is strong
when it says to the refugee,

not, “Go away,” but,

“It’s OK, we’ve got you, you’re safe.”

Thank you.

(Applause)

Thanks.

(Applause)

去年夏天,我
接到一个叫艾莉的女人的电话。

她听说
了南部边境的家庭分离

,想
知道她能做些什么来提供帮助。

她给我讲
了她祖父和父亲的故事。

当他们还是波兰的孩子时,

他们的父亲

担心儿子的安全,

给了他们一点钱,
并告诉他们向西走,

继续向西穿过欧洲。

他们做到了。

他们一路
向西横穿欧洲,

乘船到达美国。

艾莉说,当她听到
青少年穿越墨西哥的故事时

,她能想到
的只有她的祖父和他的兄弟。

她说,对她来说,
故事完全一样。

这些兄弟
是 Hassenfeld 兄弟

——“有”“兄弟”

——孩之宝玩具公司

,当然,它给我们带来了
土豆头先生。

但这并不是
我告诉你这个故事的真正原因。

我告诉你这个故事
是因为它让我

思考我是否有信心、

有勇气送我的孩子
——我有三个孩子——

踏上这样的旅程。

知道他们
在我们所在的地方不安全,

我能看着他们离开吗?

几十年前,我在美国南部边境开始了我的职业生涯

与中美洲的寻求庇护者一起工作

在过去的 16 年里,
我一直在 HIAS,

一个
在世界各地为难民权利而战的犹太组织,

担任律师和倡导者。

我学到的一件事
是,有时,

我们被告知的事情
让我们更安全、更强大,

实际上并没有。

而且,事实上,其中一些
政策与预期结果相反

,同时造成了巨大
和不必要的痛苦。

那么为什么人们会出现
在我们的南部边境呢?

大多数
来到我们南部边境的移民和难民

正在逃离三个国家:
危地马拉、洪都拉斯和萨尔瓦多。

这些国家一直被列为

世界上最暴力的
国家。

在这些国家很难保证安全,

更不用说
为自己和家人建立未来了。


妇女和女孩的暴力行为无处不在。 几代

人以来,人们一直在逃离

中美洲。

一代又一代的
难民来到我们的海岸,

逃离美国深深卷入的 1980 年代内战

这不是什么新鲜事。

最新消息是,最近,
家庭、

儿童和家庭出现激增,
出现在检查站

并出现寻求庇护。

现在,这是最近的新闻,

所以我希望你在
看到这些图像时记住一些事情。

一,这在南部边境不是历史最高水平
的拦截

,事实上,人们
正在检查站出现。

二,
人们背着衣服出现;

其中一些实际上是人字拖。

第三,我们是世界上最
强大的国家。

现在不是恐慌的时候。

从目的地国家的安全出发,很容易

从绝对的角度来思考:

是合法的,还是非法的?

但是,那些
为这些问题

而苦苦挣扎并
为他们的家庭做出这些决定的人

正在考虑
非常不同的问题:

我如何保证我女儿的安全?

我该如何保护我的儿子?

如果你想要绝对的

,寻求庇护是绝对合法的。

这是我们自己的法律
和国际法中的一项基本权利。

而且,事实上——

(掌声)

它源于 1951 年的《难民公约》,

这是世界
对大屠杀的回应,也是

各国不再
将人们送回

他们会伤害或杀害的国家的一种方式。 难民

有几种方式
来到这个国家。

一种是通过美国难民
招生计划。

通过该计划,美国识别
和挑选海外难民

并将他们带到美国。

去年,美国重新安置的难民比

该计划自 1980 年开始以来的任何时候

都要少。今年,可能会更少。

这是在我们
世界上的难民

比有
记录的历史上任何时候都多的时候,

即使是自二战以来也是如此。

难民
来到这个国家的另一种方式是寻求庇护。

寻求庇护者是
那些在边境出现

并说如果他们被遣返会受到迫害的人

寻求庇护者只是在美国
经历这个过程

以证明他们
符合难民定义的人。

寻求庇护从未如此困难。

当人们出现在我们的边境时

,边防人员告诉人们我们国家已经满员了
,他们根本无法申请。

这是史无前例且非法的。

根据一项

名为
“移民保护协议”的奥威尔式新计划,

难民被告知
他们必须在墨西哥

等待他们的案件
通过美国法院审理

,这可能需要数月或数年。

同时,他们并不安全,

也无法接触到律师。

我们的国家,我们的政府,
已经拘留了 3000 多名儿童,

将他们从父母的怀抱中分离出来,

以阻止他们寻求庇护。

许多是蹒跚学步的孩子

,至少一个
是六岁的盲女。

而这仍在继续。

我们花费数十亿美元将没有犯罪的人关押
在实际上是监狱的地方

家庭分离已
成为我们移民制度的标志。

这与山上的闪亮城市
或希望的灯塔

或我们喜欢
谈论自己和我们的价值观的所有其他方式相去甚远。

移民一直伴随着我们,
而且永远都会如此。

人们逃离的原因——
迫害、战争、暴力、

气候变化

以及现在通过手机
查看其他地方生活的能力——

这些压力只会越来越大。

但是,鉴于世界的现实,我们可以通过多种方式
制定反映我们的价值观

并真正有意义的政策

我们需要做的第一件事
是收回

长期以来一直是我们
在这个问题上进行全国辩论的基础的有害言论。

(掌声)

我自己不是移民,也不是难民,

但我个人认为这些攻击,
因为我的祖父母是。

我的曾祖母罗斯
七年没有见到她的孩子,

因为她试图把他们
从波兰带到纽约。

她在我祖父 7 岁时离开了

他,直到 14 岁才再见到他

在我家的另一边,

我的祖母 Aliza
在 1930 年代离开波兰,

前往当时
的英国托管地巴勒斯坦

,她 再也没有见过
她的家人和朋友。

作为
对全球移民和流离失所的回应,全球合作

将大大有助于
使移民不是一场危机,而是一场危机

并且我们
作为一个全球社区来应对。

人道主义援助也很重要。

我们为

中美洲正在派遣难民和移民的国家提供的支持只是

我们在执法和拘留方面花费的一小部分。

我们绝对可以
有一个有效的庇护制度。

只需一小部分成本,

我们就可以聘请更多法官,

确保寻求庇护者有律师,

并致力于建立人道的庇护制度。

(掌声

)我们可以重新安置更多的难民。

让您了解
难民计划的衰落:

三年前,美国重新安置了
15,000 名叙利亚难民,

以应对地球上最大的
难民危机。

一年后,这个数字是 3,000。

去年,这个数字是 62 人。

62人。 民意调查显示,

尽管有严厉的言论
和阻止移民、

将难民拒之门外的努力,但对该国

难民和移民的支持

从未如此高涨。 当有值得反对的法律或值得支持的法律或需要监督的政策时

,像我工作的 HIAS

和其他人道主义
和信仰组织这样的组织

可以让您轻松表明立场

如果你有手机,

你可以做一些事情

,如果你想做更多,你可以。

我会告诉你,如果你在边境看到
其中一个拘留中心里

有孩子——它们是监狱——

你将永远不会是原来的样子。

我非常
喜欢我与 Ellie 通话的原因

是,她内心深处
知道她祖父母

的故事与今天的故事没有什么不同

,她想为此做点什么。

如果我给你留下一件事,

除了
土豆头先生的背景故事

,当然,这是
一个很好的故事,

那就是一个国家

通过同情和实用主义展示力量,

而不是通过武力和恐惧。

(掌声)

这些哈森费尔德一家
和我的亲戚和你的亲戚的故事,

今天还在发生;
他们都是一样的。 当

一个国家
对难民说,

不是“走开”,而是

“没关系,我们有你,你很安全”时,它就是强大的。

谢谢你。

(掌声)

谢谢。

(掌声)