Want to get great at something Get a coach Atul Gawande

I don’t come to you today as an expert.

I come to you as someone
who has been really interested

in how I get better at what I do

and how we all do.

I think it’s not just
how good you are now,

I think it’s how good you’re going to be
that really matters.

I was visiting this birth center
in the north of India.

I was watching the birth attendants,

and I realized I was witnessing in them
an extreme form of this very struggle,

which is how people improve
in the face of complexity –

or don’t.

The women here are delivering in a region

where the typical birth center
has a one-in-20 death rate for the babies,

and the moms are dying at a rate
ten times higher than they do elsewhere.

Now, we’ve known the critical practices

that stop the big killers
in birth for decades,

and the thing about it is
that even in this place –

in this place especially,

the simplest things are not simple.

We know for example you should wash hands
and put on clean gloves,

but here,

the tap is in another room,

and they don’t have clean gloves.

To reuse their gloves,

they wash them in this basin
of dilute bleach,

but you can see there’s still blood
on the gloves from the last delivery.

Ten percent of babies are born
with difficulty breathing everywhere.

We know what to do.

You dry the baby with a clean cloth
to stimulate them to breathe.

If they don’t start to breathe,

you suction out their airways.

And if that doesn’t work,
you give them breaths with the baby mask.

But these are skills that they’ve learned
mostly from textbooks,

and that baby mask is broken.

In this one disturbing image for me

is a picture that brings home
just how dire the situation is.

This is a baby 10 minutes after birth,

and he’s alive,

but only just.

No clean cloth,

has not been dried,

not warming skin to skin,

an unsterile clamp across the cord.

He’s an infection waiting to happen,

and he’s losing
his temperature by the minute.

Successful child delivery
requires a successful team of people.

A whole team has to be
skilled and coordinated;

the nurses who do the deliveries
in a place like this,

the doctor who backs them up,

the supply clerk who’s responsible
for 22 critical drugs and supplies

being in stock and at the bedside,

the medical officer in charge,

responsible for the quality
of the whole facility.

The thing is they are all
experienced professionals.

I didn’t meet anybody who hadn’t been
part of thousands of deliveries.

But against the complexities
that they face,

they seem to be at their limits.

They were not getting better anymore.

It’s how good you’re going to be
that really matters.

It presses on a fundamental question.

How do professionals
get better at what they do?

How do they get great?

And there are two views about this.

One is the traditional pedagogical view.

That is that you go to school,

you study, you practice,
you learn, you graduate,

and then you go out into the world

and you make your way on your own.

A professional is someone who is capable
of managing their own improvement.

That is the approach that virtually
all professionals have learned by.

That’s how doctors learn,

that’s how lawyers do,

scientists …

musicians.

And the thing is, it works.

Consider for example legendary
Juilliard violin instructor Dorothy DeLay.

She trained an amazing roster
of violin virtuosos:

Midori, Sarah Chang, Itzhak Perlman.

Each of them came to her as young talents,

and they worked with her over years.

What she worked on most, she said,

was inculcating in them
habits of thinking and of learning

so that they could make their way
in the world without her

when they were done.

Now, the contrasting view
comes out of sports.

And they say “You are never done,

everybody needs a coach.”

Everyone.

The greatest in the world needs a coach.

So I tried to think
about this as a surgeon.

Pay someone to come
into my operating room,

observe me and critique me.

That seems absurd.

Expertise means not needing to be coached.

So then which view is right?

I learned that coaching came into sports
as a very American idea.

In 1875,

Harvard and Yale played one of the very
first American-rules football games.

Yale hired a head coach;

Harvard did not.

The results?

Over the next three decades,

Harvard won just four times.

Harvard hired a coach.

(Laughter)

And it became the way that sports works.

But is it necessary then?

Does it transfer into other fields?

I decided to ask, of all people,

Itzhak Perlman.

He had trained the Dorothy DeLay way

and became arguably the greatest
violinist of his generation.

One of the beautiful things about
getting to write for “The New Yorker”

is I call people up,
and they return my phone calls.

(Laughter)

And Perlman returned my phone call.

So we ended up having
an almost two-hour conversation

about how he got
to where he got in his career.

And I asked him, I said,
“Why don’t violinists have coaches?”

And he said, “I don’t know,

but I always had a coach.”

“You always had a coach?”

“Oh yeah, my wife, Toby.”

They had graduated
together from Juilliard,

and she had given up her job
as a concert violinist

to be his coach,

sitting in the audience,

observing him and giving him feedback.

“Itzhak, in that middle section,

you know you sounded
a little bit mechanical.

What can you differently next time?”

It was crucial to everything
he became, he said.

Turns out there are numerous problems
in making it on your own.

You don’t recognize the issues
that are standing in your way

or if you do,

you don’t necessarily
know how to fix them.

And the result is
that somewhere along the way,

you stop improving.

And I thought about that,

and I realized that was exactly
what had happened to me as a surgeon.

I’d entered practice in 2003,

and for the first several years,

it was just this steady, upward
improvement in my learning curve.

I watched my complication rates drop
from one year to the next.

And after about five years,

they leveled out.

And a few more years after that,

I realized I wasn’t getting
any better anymore.

And I thought: “Is this
as good as I’m going to get?”

So I thought a little more and I said …

“OK,

I’ll try a coach.”

So I asked a former professor
of mine who had retired,

his name is Bob Osteen,

and he agreed to come to my operating room

and observe me.

The case –

I remember that first case.

It went beautifully.

I didn’t think there would be
anything much he’d have to say

when we were done.

Instead, he had a whole page
dense with notes.

(Laughter)

“Just small things,” he said.

(Laughter)

But it’s the small things that matter.

“Did you notice that the light
had swung out of the wound

during the case?

You spent about half an hour

just operating off the light
from reflected surfaces.”

“Another thing I noticed,” he said,

“Your elbow goes up in the air
every once in a while.

That means you’re not in full control.

A surgeon’s elbows should be down
at their sides resting comfortably.

So that means if you feel
your elbow going in the air,

you should get a different instrument,
or just move your feet.”

It was a whole other level of awareness.

And I had to think,

you know, there was something
fundamentally profound about this.

He was describing what great coaches do,

and what they do is they are
your external eyes and ears,

providing a more accurate
picture of your reality.

They’re recognizing the fundamentals.

They’re breaking your actions down

and then helping you
build them back up again.

After two months of coaching,

I felt myself getting better again.

And after a year,

I saw my complications
drop down even further.

It was painful.

I didn’t like being observed,

and at times I didn’t want
to have to work on things.

I also felt there were periods where
I would get worse before I got better.

But it made me realize

that the coaches were onto something
profoundly important.

In my other work,

I lead a health systems innovation center
called Ariadne Labs,

where we work on problems
in the delivery of health care,

including global childbirth.

As part of it,

we had worked with
the World Health Organization

to devise a safe childbirth checklist.

It lays out the fundamentals.

It breaks down the fundamentals –

the critical actions
a team needs to go through

when a woman comes in in labor,

when she’s ready to push,

when the baby is out,

and then when the mom and baby
are ready to go home.

And we knew

that just handing out a checklist
wasn’t going to change very much,

and even just teaching it in the classroom
wasn’t necessarily going to be enough

to get people to make the changes
that you needed to bring it alive.

And I thought on my experience and said,

“What if we tried coaching?

What if we tried coaching
at a massive scale?”

We found some incredible partners,

including the government of India,

and we ran a trial there
in 120 birth centers.

In Uttar Pradesh,
in India’s largest state.

Half of the centers
basically we just observed,

but the other half
got visits from coaches.

We trained an army
of doctors and nurses like this one

who learned to observe the care
and also the managers

and then help them
build on their strengths

and address their weaknesses.

One of the skills for example
they had to work on with people –

turned out to be
fundamentally important –

was communication.

Getting the nurses to practice speaking up
when the baby mask is broken

or the gloves are not in stock

or someone’s not washing their hands.

And then getting others,
including the managers,

to practice listening.

This small army of coaches
ended up coaching 400 nurses

and other birth attendants,

and 100 physicians and managers.

We tracked the results
across 160,000 births.

The results …

in the control group you had –

and these are the ones
who did not get coaching –

they delivered on only one-third
of 18 basic practices

that we were measuring.

And most important was
over the course of the years of study,

we saw no improvement over time.

The other folks
got four months of coaching

and then it tapered off over eight months,

and we saw them increase

to greater than two-thirds
of the practices being delivered.

It works.

We could see the improvement in quality,

and you could see it happen
across a whole range of centers

that suggested that coaching
could be a whole line of way

that we bring value to what we do.

You can imagine the whole job category
that could reach out in the world

and that millions of people could fulfill.

We were clearly
at the beginning of it, though,

because there was still a distance to go.

You have to put
all of the checklist together

to achieve the substantial
reductions in mortality.

But we began seeing the first places
that were getting there,

and this center was one of them

because coaching helped them
learn to execute on the fundamentals.

And you could see it here.

This is a 23-year-old woman

who had come in by ambulance,

in labor with her third child.

She broke her water in the triage area,

so they brought her directly
to the labor and delivery room,

and then they ran through their checks.

I put the time stamp on here

so you could see
how quickly all of this happens

and how much more complicated
that makes things.

Within four minutes,

they had taken the blood pressure,
measured her pulse

and also measured
the heart rate of the baby.

That meant that the blood pressure cuff
and the fetal Doppler monitor,

they were all there,
and the nurse knew how to use them.

The team was skilled and coordinated.

The mom was doing great,

the baby’s heart rate was 143,
which is normal.

Eight minutes later, the intensity
of the contractions picked up,

so the nurse washed her hands,

put on clean gloves,

examined her and found
that her cervix was fully dilated.

The baby was ready to come.

She then went straight over
to do her next set of checks.

All of the equipment,
she worked her way through

and made sure she had everything
she needed at the bedside.

The baby mask was there,
the sterile towel,

the sterile equipment that you needed.

And then three minutes later,
one push and that baby was out.

(Applause)

I was watching this delivery,

and suddenly I realized that the mood
in that room had changed.

The nurse was looking
at the community health worker

who had come in with the woman

because that baby
did not seem to be alive.

She was blue and floppy and not breathing.

She would be one of that one-in-20.

But the nurse kept going
with her checkpoints.

She dried that baby with a clean towel.

And after a minute,
when that didn’t stimulate that baby,

she ran to get the baby mask

and the other one went to get the suction.

She didn’t have a mechanical suction
because you could count on electricity,

so she used a mouth suction,

and within 20 seconds,

she was clearing out
that little girl’s airways.

And she got back a green, thick liquid,

and within a minute
of being able to do that

and suctioning out over and over,

that baby started to breathe.

(Applause)

Another minute and that baby was crying.

And five minutes after that,

she was pink and warming
on her mother’s chest,

and that mother reached out
to grab that nurse’s hand,

and they could all breathe.

I saw a team transformed
because of coaching.

And I saw at least one life
saved because of it.

We followed up with that mother
a few months later.

Mom and baby were doing great.

The baby’s name is Anshika.

It means “beautiful.”

And she is what’s possible

when we really understand

how people get better at what they do.

Thank you.

(Applause)

我今天不是以专家的身份来找你的。

我作为一个

我如何在我所做的事情

以及我们所有人的工作中做得更好的人非常感兴趣的人来找你。

我认为这不仅仅是
你现在有多好,

我认为你会变得多好
才是真正重要的。

我正在访问
印度北部的这个生育中心。

我看着接生员

,我意识到我在他们身上目睹
了这种斗争的一种极端形式,

这就是人们
在面对复杂性时如何改进——

或者不这样做。

这里的妇女在一个

典型的分娩
中心的婴儿死亡率为 20 分之一的地区分娩,

而母亲的死亡率
是其他地方的十倍。

现在,我们已经知道了

几十年来阻止大杀手出生的关键做法

,问题
是即使在这个地方——

尤其是在这个地方,

最简单的事情也并不简单。

例如,我们知道您应该洗手
并戴上干净的手套,

但在这里

,水龙头在另一个房间

,他们没有干净的手套。

为了重复使用他们的手套,

他们在这
盆稀释的漂白剂中清洗它们,

但你可以看到
上次交付时手套上仍有血迹。

百分之十的婴儿出生
时到处都有呼吸困难。

我们知道该怎么做。

你用干净的布擦干婴儿,
以刺激他们呼吸。

如果他们没有开始呼吸,

你就会吸出他们的气道。

如果这不起作用,
你可以用婴儿面罩给他们呼吸。

但这些都是他们主要从教科书中学到的技能,

而且婴儿面具坏了。

在这幅令我不安的画面中,这张照片让我

知道情况是多么可怕。

这是一个出生10分钟后的婴儿

,他还活着,

但只是刚刚好。

没有干净的布,

没有擦干,

没有皮肤对皮肤的温暖,没有

消毒的夹子穿过电源线。

他是一种等待发生的感染

,他的
体温每分钟都在下降。

成功的分娩
需要一个成功的团队。

整个团队必须
熟练和协调;

在这样的地方接生的护士

为他们提供支持的医生,

负责库存和床边的
22种关键药品和

用品的供应员

,负责医疗质量的医务人员

整个设施。

问题是他们都是
经验丰富的专业人士。

我没有遇到任何没有
参与过数千次交付的人。

但面对
他们所面临的复杂情况,

他们似乎已经到了极限。

他们不再好转了。 真正

重要的是你会变得多好

它强调一个基本问题。

专业人士
如何在他们的工作中做得更好?

他们如何变得伟大?

对此有两种看法。

一是传统的教学观。

那就是你去学校,

你学习,你练习,
你学习,你毕业,

然后你走向世界

,你自己走自己的路。

专业人士是
能够管理自己的改进的人。

这是几乎
所有专业人士都学习过的方法。

医生就是这样学习的

,律师就是这样,

科学家……

音乐家就是这样。

问题是,它有效。

以传奇的
茱莉亚小提琴教练多萝西·迪莱为例。

她培养了一批令人惊叹
的小提琴演奏家:

Midori、Sarah Chang、Itzhak Perlman。

他们每个人都是以年轻的人才来到她身边,

并与她一起工作了多年。

她说,她最努力的工作

是向他们灌输
思考和学习的习惯,

以便他们完成后可以
在没有她的情况下在世界

上生存。

现在,对比的观点
来自体育。

他们说:“你永远不会完成,

每个人都需要教练。”

每个人。

世界上最伟大的人需要教练。

所以我试着把
这个当作外科医生来考虑。

花钱请人
进我的手术室,

观察我,批评我。

这似乎很荒谬。

专业意味着不需要被指导。

那么,哪种观点是正确的呢?

我了解到教练
作为一个非常美国的想法进入体育运动。

1875 年,

哈佛和耶鲁进行了
最早的美式橄榄球比赛之一。

耶鲁聘请了一名主教练;

哈佛没有。

结果?

在接下来的三十年里,

哈佛只赢了四次。

哈佛聘请了一名教练。

(笑声

) 它成为了体育运动的方式。

但那有必要吗?

它会转移到其他领域吗?

我决定问问所有人,

伊扎克·帕尔曼。

他训练了多萝西·迪莱(Dorothy DeLay)的方式

,可以说
是他这一代最伟大的小提琴家。

为《纽约客》写作的美妙之处之一

就是我打电话给人们
,他们会回我的电话。

(笑声

) 帕尔曼回了我的电话。

因此,我们最终进行
了将近两个小时的谈话,

讨论了他是如何
到达职业生涯的。

我问他,我说,
“为什么小提琴家没有教练?”

他说:“我不知道,

但我一直都有教练。”

“你一直都有教练吗?”

“哦,是的,我的妻子,托比。”

他们
一起从茱莉亚毕业

,她放弃
了音乐会小提琴手的工作

,成为他的教练,

坐在观众席旁,

观察他,给他反馈。

“Itzhak,在那个中间部分,

你知道你听起来
有点机械。

下次你能有什么不同?”

他说,这对他成为的一切都至关重要。

事实证明,
自己制作有很多问题。

您没有
意识到阻碍您前进的问题,

或者即使您意识到了,

您也不一定
知道如何解决它们。

结果是
,一路上的某个地方,

你停止了改进。

我想到了这一点

,我意识到这
正是我作为外科医生所发生的事情。

我在 2003 年开始实践

,在最初的几年里

,我的学习曲线就是这种稳步向上的
进步。

我看到我的并发症发生率
从一年下降到下一年。

大约五年后,

他们趋于平稳。

又过了几年,

我意识到我并没有
变得更好。

我想:“这
和我能得到的一样好吗?”

所以我想了想,然后我说……

“好吧,

我会试试教练。”

于是我问
了我一位退休的前教授,

他的名字叫 Bob Osteen

,他同意来我的

手术室观察我。

案例——

我记得第一个案例。

它进行得很漂亮。

我不认为

我们完成后他会说什么。

相反,他有一整页
的笔记密密麻麻。

(笑声)

“只是小事,”他说。

(笑声)

但重要的是小事。

“你有没有注意到,在案件中,光线
已经从伤口中摆动出来了

你花了大约半个小时

来处理反射表面的光线。”

“我注意到的另一件事,”他说,

“你的肘部每隔一段时间就会举到空中

这意味着你没有完全控制

。外科医生的肘部应该
放在身体两侧舒适地休息。

所以这意味着如果 你感觉
你的肘部在空中,

你应该得到一个不同的乐器,
或者只是移动你的脚。”

这是一种完全不同的意识水平。

我不得不认为,

你知道,这有一些
从根本上深刻的东西。

他在描述伟大的教练所做的事情,

他们所做的就是
你的外部眼睛和耳朵,

为你的现实提供更准确的
画面。

他们正在认识到基本面。

他们正在分解你的行为

,然后帮助你
重新建立它们。

经过两个月的训练,

我感觉自己又好起来了。

一年后,

我看到我的并发症
进一步下降。

这很痛苦。

我不喜欢被观察

,有时我
也不想工作。

我还觉得有些时候
我会在好转之前变得更糟。

但这让我

意识到教练们正在做一些
非常重要的事情。

在我的另一项工作中,

我领导了一个名为 Ariadne Labs 的卫生系统创新中心

我们在那里致力于
解决医疗保健提供方面的问题,

包括全球分娩。

作为其中的一部分,

我们
与世界卫生组织

合作设计了一份安全分娩清单。

它列出了基本面。

它分解了基本要素——

当女性分娩时,

当她准备好推动时,

当婴儿外出时,

以及当妈妈和
婴儿准备回家时,团队需要经历的关键行动。

而且我们

知道仅仅分发一份
清单不会有太大的改变

,即使只是在课堂上教授它
也不一定

足以让人们做出
你需要的改变来让它活起来。

我想了一下我的经验,然后说,

“如果我们尝试执教会怎样

?如果我们尝试大规模执教会
怎样?”

我们找到了一些令人难以置信的合作伙伴,

包括印度政府

,我们在那里
在 120 个生育中心进行了试验。

在印度最大的邦北方邦。

一半的中心
基本上是我们刚刚观察到的,

但另一半
得到了教练的访问。

我们培训了一支
像这样的医生和护士大军,

他们学会了观察护理
和管理人员

,然后帮助他们
发挥自己的优势

并解决他们的弱点。

例如,
他们必须与人一起工作的技能之一——

结果证明是
非常重要的——

就是沟通。

让护士练习
在婴儿口罩破损

、手套缺货

或有人不洗手时大声说出来。

然后让
包括经理在内

的其他人练习倾听。

这支小教练队伍
最终指导了 400 名护士

和其他助产士,

以及 100 名医生和管理人员。

我们跟踪
了 160,000 名新生儿的结果。

结果……

在你所拥有的对照组中

——这些是
那些没有得到指导的人——

他们只完成了我们测量
的 18 种基本实践

中的三分之一。

最重要的是
在多年的学习过程中,

随着时间的推移,我们没有看到任何改善。

其他人接受
了四个月的指导

,然后在八个月内逐渐减少

,我们看到他们

增加到超过三分之二
的实践。

有用。

我们可以看到质量的提高

,你可以看到它发生
在一系列中心

,这表明教练
可以成为

我们为我们所做的事情带来价值的一整套方式。

你可以想象整个工作
类别可以在世界范围内普及

并且数百万人可以完成。

不过,我们显然还
处于起步阶段,

因为还有一段路要走。

您必须将
所有清单放在一起

才能大幅
降低死亡率。

但是我们开始看到第一个
到达那里的地方

,这个中心就是其中之一,

因为教练帮助他们
学会了在基础上执行。

你可以在这里看到它。

这是一名 23 岁的妇女

,她乘救护车

进来,正在生第三个孩子。

她在分诊区打破了她的水,

所以他们直接把她
带到了分娩室,

然后他们检查了。

我把时间戳放在这里,

这样你就可以看到
这一切发生的速度有多快,

以及
这让事情变得多么复杂。

在四分钟内,

他们量了血压,
测量了她的脉搏

,还测量
了婴儿的心率。

这意味着血压袖带
和胎儿多普勒监护仪

都在那里
,护士知道如何使用它们。

团队技术娴熟,协调一致。

妈妈很好

,宝宝心率143
,正常。

八分钟后,宫缩的强度
增加了,

所以护士洗手,

戴上干净的手套,

检查她,
发现她的子宫颈已经完全扩张了。

宝宝已经准备好了。

然后她直接
过去做下一组检查。

所有的设备,
她都用了自己的方式,

并确保她
在床边拥有了她需要的一切。

那里有婴儿口罩
、无菌毛巾和

您需要的无菌设备。

然后三分钟后,
一推,那个婴儿就出来了。

(鼓掌)

我在看这个节目

,突然发现
那个房间里的气氛变了。

护士正在看着

与该妇女一起进来的社区卫生工作者,

因为那个婴儿
似乎还活着。

她脸色苍白,浑身无力,没有呼吸。

她将成为 20 分之一的人之一。

但护士
继续她的检查站。

她用干净的毛巾擦干那个婴儿。

一分钟后,
当那个婴儿没有受到刺激时,

她跑去拿婴儿面具

,另一个去吸。

她没有机械吸尘器,
因为可以靠电,

所以她用嘴巴吸尘器

,不到20秒,

她就清理了
那个小女孩的呼吸道。

她得到了一种绿色的粘稠液体,


能够做到这一点

并一遍又一遍地吸出的一分钟内,

那个婴儿开始呼吸。

(掌声)

再过一分钟,那个婴儿在哭。

又过了五分钟,

她红扑扑的,暖暖的贴
在妈妈的胸口

,那个妈妈伸手
去抓那个护士的手

,他们都可以呼吸了。

我看到一支球队
因为执教而转变。

我看到至少有一条生命
因此而得救。 几个月后

,我们跟进了那位
母亲。

妈妈和宝宝做得很好。

宝宝的名字叫安西卡。

它的意思是“美丽的”。

当我们真正

了解人们如何在他们所做的事情上做得更好时,她就是可能的。

谢谢你。

(掌声)