Diagnosing a zombie brain and behavior Part two Tim Verstynen Bradley Voytek

Transcriber: tom carter
Reviewer: Bedirhan Cinar

(Zombie noises) Doctor 1: So, here we are again.

You know, I’ve been thinking. Why is this thing so angry?

Doctor 2: Maybe he’s just hungry.

D1: (Laughs) I’m not going in there to feed it.

No, this seems like something very primal.

D2: This is kind of a hard one,

because we don’t really have any biological definitions for emotions like anger.

Sure, brain imaging studies have shown that some brain regions are more active when people are angry,

but these are almost always correlational.

When it’s warmer outside, people wear less clothing,

but if I strip down to my birthday suit, it doesn’t make it sunny.

D1: (Laughs) It’s like having someone run on a treadmill and saying

“Look at how much more his arms move when he runs faster!

The arms must be where running happens.”

D2: That’s why working with people with brain lesions is so important to neuroscience.

It adds some causal evidence that a brain area might be required for a behavior.

Same with brain simulation studies.

If stimulating a brain area causes a behavior,

then that’s good evidence that the brain region is involved in that behavior.

So like studies with cats in the 1950s

showed that stimulating a small almond-shaped area deep in the brain called the amygdala

leads to aggressive or predatory behaviors.

These things look pretty aggressive to me.

D1: Right. But other studies have shown that stimulating different parts of the amygdala

can actually suppress predatory behaviors.

So it’s kind of a complicated little brain structure.

D2: Yeah. And fMRI studies have found that the amygdala is active in violent criminals.

D1: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Careful there.

Just because criminals have the same active brain regions as people who are angry,

doesn’t mean that they’re inherently aggressive.

That’s like saying because I kiss with the same face hole that I use to burp,

then these two things are related.

It’s a false equivalence.

D2: Huh! Never thought of it like that. That’s a good point.

D1: You know, the amygdala is part of the Papez circuit.

This system was discovered by James Papez, who used the rabies virus to lesion different areas in the cat’s brain.

He found that the amygdala was physically connected to another region called the hippocampus –

a little seahorse-shaped area that is needed to turn short-term memories into long-term memories.

It’s thought that this connection between the amygdala and hippocampus

links emotion and memory together,

so that you remember really emotional stuff better than boring everyday things.

D2: Yeah, like Patient H.M. In the 1950s, surgeons removed both his left and right hippocampuses

to treat his epilepsy.

But after the surgery, he couldn’t remember any new information for longer than a few minutes.

Zombies appear to be pretty forgetful, wouldn’t you agree?

D1: (Laughs) Absolutely. Between the amygdala-related aggression,

and memory deficits from the hippocampus,

Papez may have actually accidentally created the first zombie cat.

D2: Aw, come on now, let’s not get carried away.

But now we do have some testable hypotheses.

I’d put money on its aggression and memory problems being linked to abnormalities

in its amygdala and hippocampus, respectively.

D1: Great! So all we need to do now is figure out how to experimentally test this.

Do you think it’ll let us examine its brain to verify our hypothesis?

D2: Uh, you know, I think I might be more comfortable not knowing the answer to this one.

D1: Hmm. Maybe we could get a graduate student to do it for us?

抄写员:tom carter
审稿人:Bedirhan Cinar

(僵尸噪音) 医生 1:所以,我们又来了。

你知道,我一直在想。 这东西怎么这么生气?

医生2:也许他只是饿了。

D1:(笑)我不会进去喂它的。

不,这似乎是一件非常原始的事情。

D2:这有点难,

因为我们对愤怒等情绪没有任何生物学定义。

当然,大脑成像研究表明,当人们生气时,一些大脑区域会更加活跃,

但这些几乎总是相关的。

外面比较暖和的时候,人们穿的衣服就少了,

但如果我脱掉我的生日套装,就不会让它变得阳光明媚。

D1:(笑)这就像有人在跑步机上跑步并说

“看看他跑得更快时他的手臂运动得更多

!手臂一定是跑步发生的地方。”

D2:这就是为什么与脑损伤患者合作对神经科学如此重要。

它增加了一些因果证据,表明行为可能需要大脑区域。

与大脑模拟研究相同。

如果刺激大脑区域会导致某种行为,

那么这就是大脑区域参与该行为的良好证据。

因此,就像 1950 年代对猫的研究

表明,刺激大脑深处称为杏仁核的小杏仁状区域

会导致攻击性或掠夺性行为。

这些东西对我来说看起来很激进。

D1:对。 但其他研究表明,刺激杏仁核的不同部分

实际上可以抑制捕食行为。

所以这是一种复杂的小脑结构。

D2:是的。 而功能磁共振成像研究发现,杏仁核在暴力犯罪分子中很活跃。

D1:哇,哇,哇。 那里小心。

仅仅因为罪犯与愤怒的人具有相同的活跃大脑区域,

并不意味着他们天生就具有攻击性。

这就像说因为我用我用来打嗝的同一个脸孔接吻,

那么这两件事是相关的。

这是一个错误的等价。

D2:嗯! 从来没有这样想过。 那是个很好的观点。

D1:你知道,杏仁核是帕佩兹回路的一部分。

这个系统是由詹姆斯·帕佩兹发现的,他利用狂犬病病毒损害了猫大脑的不同区域。

他发现杏仁核与另一个叫做海马体的区域有物理联系——海马体

是一个小海马形状的区域,需要将短期记忆转变为长期记忆。

人们认为,杏仁核和海马体之间的这种

联系将情绪和记忆联系在一起,

这样你就可以记住真正情绪化的东西,而不是无聊的日常事物。

D2:是的,就像病人 H.M. 1950 年代,外科医生切除了他的左右海马体

来治疗他的癫痫症。

但手术后,他有几分钟的时间无法记住任何新信息。

僵尸似乎很健忘,你不同意吗?

D1:(笑)当然。 在杏仁核相关的攻击性

和海马体的记忆缺陷之间,

帕佩兹实际上可能不小心创造了第一只僵尸猫。

D2:噢,现在来吧,我们不要得意忘形。

但现在我们确实有一些可检验的假设。

我会把钱花在它的攻击性和记忆问题上,这些问题分别与

杏仁核和海马体的异常有关。

D1:太好了! 所以我们现在需要做的就是弄清楚如何进行实验测试。

你认为它会让我们检查它的大脑来验证我们的假设吗?

D2:呃,你知道,我想我可能会更自在不知道这个问题的答案。

D1:嗯。 也许我们可以让一个研究生为我们做这件事?