How to control someone elses arm with your brain Greg Gage

The brain is an amazing and complex organ.

And while many people
are fascinated by the brain,

they can’t really tell you that much

about the properties
about how the brain works

because we don’t teach
neuroscience in schools.

And one of the reasons
why is that the equipment

is so complex and so expensive

that it’s really only done at major
universities and large institutions.

And so in order to be able
to access the brain,

you really need to dedicate your life

and spend six and a half years
as a graduate student

just to become a neuroscientist
to get access to these tools.

And that’s a shame
because one out of five of us,

that’s 20 percent of the entire world,
will have a neurological disorder.

And there are zero cures
for these diseases.

And so it seems that
what we should be doing

is reaching back earlier
in the eduction process

and teaching students about neuroscience
so that in the future,

they may be thinking about possibly
becoming a brain scientist.

When I was a graduate student,
my lab mate Tim Marzullo and myself,

decided that what if we took
this complex equipment that we have

for studying the brain and made it simple
enough and affordable enough

that anyone that you know, an amateur
or a high school student,

could learn and actually participate
in the discovery of neuroscience.

And so we did just that.

A few years ago, we started
a company called Backyard Brains

and we make DIY neuroscience equipment
and I brought some here tonight,

and I want to do some demonstrations.

You guys want to see some?

So I need a volunteer.

So right before – what is your name?
(Applause)

Sam Kelly: Sam.

Greg Gage: All right, Sam, I’m going
to record from your brain.

Have you had this before?

SK: No.

GG: I need you to stick out
your arm for science,

roll up your sleeve a bit,

So what I’m going to do,
I’m putting electrodes on your arm,

and you’re probably wondering,

I just said I’m going to record from your
brain, what am I doing with your arm?

Well, you have about 80 billion neurons
inside your brain right now.

They’re sending electrical messages
back and forth, and chemical messages.

But some of your neurons
right here in your motor cortex

are going to send messages down
when you move your arm like this.

They’re going to go down
across your corpus callosum,

down onto your spinal cord
to your lower motor neuron

out to your muscles here,

and that electrical discharge
is going to be picked up

by these electrodes right here

and we’re going to be able to listen

to exactly what your brain
is going to be doing.

So I’m going to turn this on for a second.

Have you ever heard
what your brain sounds like?

SK: No.

GG: Let’s try it out.
So go ahead and squeeze your hand.

(Rumbling)

So what you’re listening to,

so this is your motor units
happening right here.

Let’s take a look at it as well.

So I’m going to stand over here,

and I’m going to open up our app here.

So now I want you to squeeze.

(Rumbling)

So right here, these are the motor units
that are happening

from her spinal cord
out to her muscle right here,

and as she’s doing it,

you’re seeing the electrical activity
that’s happening here.

You can even click here
and try to see one of them.

So keep doing it really hard.

So now we’ve paused

on one motor action potential that’s
happening right now inside of your brain.

Do you guys want to see some more?

(Applause)

That’s interesting,
but let’s get it better.

I need one more volunteer.

What is your name, sir?

Miguel Goncalves: Miguel.

GG: Miguel, all right.

You’re going to stand right here.

So when you’re moving your arm like this,

your brain is sending a signal
down to your muscles right here.

I want you to move your arm as well.

So your brain is going to send
a signal down to your muscles.

And so it turns out that there is
a nerve that’s right here

that runs up here that innervates
these three fingers,

and it’s close enough to the skin
that we might be able

to stimulate that so that what we can do

is copy your brain signals
going out to your hand

and inject it into your hand,

so that your hand will move
when your brain tells your hand to move.

So in a sense, she will take away
your free will

and you will no longer have
any control over this hand.

You with me?

So I just need to hook you up.

(Laughter)

So I’m going to find your ulnar nerve,

which is probably right around here.

You don’t know what you’re signing up for

when you come up.

So now I’m going to move away
and we’re going to plug it in

to our human-to-human interface over here.

Okay, so Sam, I want you
to squeeze your hand again.

Do it again. Perfect.

So now I’m going to hook you up
over here so that you get the –

It’s going to feel
a little bit weird at first,

this is going to feel like a –
(Laughter)

You know, when you lose your free will,
and someone else becomes your agent,

it does feel a bit strange.

Now I want you to relax your hand.

Sam, you’re with me?

So you’re going to squeeze.

I’m not going to turn it on yet,
so go ahead and give it a squeeze.

So now, are you ready, Miguel?

MG: Ready as I’ll ever be.

GG: I’ve turned it on, so go ahead
and turn your hand.

Do you feel that a little bit?
MG: Nope.

GG: Okay, do it again?
MG: A little bit.

GG: A little bit? (Laughter)

So relax.

So hit it again.

(Laughter)

Oh, perfect, perfect.

So relax, do it again.

All right, so right now,

your brain is controlling your arm
and it’s also controlling his arm,

so go ahead and just do it one more time.

All right, so it’s perfect. (Laughter)

So now, what would happen
if I took over my control of your hand?

And so, just relax your hand.

What happens?

Ah, nothing.

Why not?

Because the brain has to do it.

So you do it again.

All right, that’s perfect.

Thank you guys for being
such a good sport.

This is what’s happening
all across the world –

electrophysiology!

We’re going to bring on
the neuro-revolution.

Thank you.

(Applause)

大脑是一个神奇而复杂的器官。

虽然许多人
对大脑着迷,

但他们并不能真正告诉你

关于大脑如何工作的特性,

因为我们
不在学校教授神经科学。

原因之一是

设备如此复杂且如此昂贵

,以至于实际上只有在主要
大学和大型机构才能完成。

因此,为了
能够接触大脑,

你真的需要献出自己的生命

,花六年半

研究生时间成为一名神经科学家
,才能接触到这些工具。

这是一种耻辱,
因为我们五分之一的人,

也就是全世界 20% 的人,
会患有神经系统疾病。

这些疾病的治愈率为零。

因此,似乎
我们应该做的


在教育过程中尽早回溯

并教学生神经科学,
以便在未来,

他们可能会考虑
成为一名脑科学家。

当我还是一名研究生时,
我的实验室伙伴 Tim Marzullo 和我自己

决定,如果我们
使用我们拥有的

用于研究大脑的复杂设备,并使其
足够简单和负担得起

,无论你认识的任何人,无论是业余爱好者
还是高 学生,

可以学习并实际
参与神经科学的发现。

所以我们就这么做了。

几年前,我们创办
了一家名为 Backyard Brains 的公司

,我们制作 DIY 神经科学设备
,今晚我带来了一些

,我想做一些演示。

你们想看一些吗?

所以我需要一个志愿者。

之前——你叫什么名字?
(掌声)

山姆·凯利:山姆。

Greg Gage:好的,Sam,我
要从你的大脑中记录下来。

你以前有过这个吗?

SK:不。

GG:我需要你伸出
你的手臂进行科学,

卷起你的袖子,

所以我要做什么,
我将电极放在你的手臂上

,你可能想知道,

我 刚刚说我要从你的大脑中记录下来
,我拿你的胳膊做什么?

好吧,你现在的大脑中有大约 800 亿个神经元

他们来回发送电子信息
和化学信息。

但是当你像这样移动你的手臂时
,你运动皮层

中的一些神经元会向下发送信息

它们会向下
穿过你的胼胝体,

向下到你的脊髓,
到你的下运动神经元

,再到这里的肌肉

,这些电极会在这里吸收放电

,我们将

能够准确地听到你的
大脑将要做什么。

所以我要打开它一秒钟。

你有没有听过
你的大脑听起来像什么?

SK:不。

GG:让我们试试看。
所以继续握紧你的手。

(隆隆声)

所以你在听什么,

所以这是你的运动单位
在这里发生。

让我们也来看看它。

所以我要站在这里

,我要在这里打开我们的应用程序。

所以现在我要你挤。

(隆隆声)

所以在这里,这些是

从她的
脊髓到她的肌肉的运动单位

,当她这样做时,

你会看到
这里发生的电活动。

您甚至可以单击此处
并尝试查看其中之一。

所以继续努力吧。

所以现在我们已经暂停

了你大脑中正在发生的一种运动动作电位。

大家还想看更多吗?

(掌声)

这很有趣,
但让我们做得更好。

我还需要一名志愿者。

先生,您叫什么名字?

米格尔·贡萨尔维斯:米格尔。

GG:米格尔,好吧。

你要站在这里。

所以当你像这样移动你的手臂时,

你的大脑正在
向你的肌肉发送信号。

我希望你也动一下手臂。

所以你的大脑会
向你的肌肉发送一个信号。

事实证明,这里有
一条神经 在

这里运行,支配
这三个手指

,它离皮肤足够近
,我们可能

能够刺激它,所以我们能做的

就是复制你的大脑
信号 到你的手上,

然后注射到你的手上,

这样
当你的大脑告诉你的手移动时,你的手就会移动。

所以从某种意义上说,她会夺走
你的自由意志,

而你将不再
能控制这只手。

你跟我?

所以我只需要勾搭你。

(笑声)

所以我要找到你的尺神经,

它可能就在这附近。 当你出现时,

你不知道你在注册什么

所以现在我要离开了
,我们要把它插入

到我们这里的人对人界面中。

好的,山姆,我要你
再捏一下你的手。

再来一遍。 完美的。

所以现在我要把你挂
在这里,这样你就可以得到

——一开始会
觉得有点奇怪,

这会感觉像——
(笑声)

你知道,当你失去自由时 会的
,别人当你的经纪人,

确实感觉有点奇怪。

现在我要你放松你的手。

山姆,你和我在一起吗?

所以你要挤。

我还不打算打开它
,所以继续挤压它。

所以现在,你准备好了吗,米格尔?

MG:我将永远做好准备。

GG:我已经把它打开了,所以
继续转动你的手。

你有那么一点点感觉吗?
MG:不。

GG:好的,再来一次?
MG:一点点。

GG:一点点? (笑声)

所以放松。

于是又打了。

(笑声)

哦,完美,完美。

所以放松,再做一次。

好的,所以现在,

你的大脑正在控制你的手臂
,它也在控制他的手臂,

所以继续,再做一次。

好的,所以它是完美的。 (笑声)

那么现在,
如果我接管了你的手会发生什么?

所以,放松你的手。

怎么了?

啊,没什么。

为什么不?

因为大脑必须这样做。

所以你再做一次。

好吧,这很完美。

谢谢你们是
这么好的运动。

这就是全世界正在发生的事情
——

电生理学!

我们将
带来神经革命。

谢谢你。

(掌声)