Men Really are From Mars Women Really are From Venus

hello everyone

thank you for listening to my talk today

so in 1992 a best-selling book was

written by john gray

american author and relationship

counselor the main idea behind this book

was that the most common relationship

problems between men and women

were the result of innate psychological

differences between the sexes

to describe this he used a metaphor men

are from mars

and women are from venus in which he

stated that men and women

come from different planets and that we

are acclimated

to our own planets society and customs

but not to those of the other planet

now one of the topics discussed as to

why men and women come from different

planets

is the idea that we respond to stressful

stimuli

differently a very simple example of

this would be

when stress maybe women want to talk

about our feelings

whereas men may want to be left alone

but as a neuroscientist one of the first

questions that pops into my head

is why what is the biological basis

for these differences in behavior and

this brings me to what i want to talk to

you about today

is the idea that from a fundamental

biological perspective

men and women really are different or to

use the metaphor

men really are from mars and women

really are from venus

and yet we know so very little about

biological sex differences

in behavior health and disease

and this begs the answer to another two

questions

why do we know so little and does it

even really matter

so to begin to answer these questions i

want to talk a little bit

about neuropsychiatric disorders

something i know a little bit about

now the connection may not be

immediately clear but please bear with

me for a moment

so in neuropsychiatry for most of these

disorders

we haven’t exactly done the best job at

finding novel

therapeutic efficacious drugs

oh sure over the past couple decades

we’ve actually done okay

in improving the side effect profile of

these drugs

but in the grand scheme of things they

actually don’t work much better

in improving symptoms let’s take

depression for example

depression is a heterogeneous disorder

that can be very difficult to treat

we have drugs that work some of the time

they have side effects some worse than

others

and they can take a very long time to

work

in those that do respond and in those

that don’t

it can often take many trials with many

different drugs

before we find one that works if we even

find one that works

and let’s not forget that relapse is

always a serious concern

in depression clearly in this case

a one drug fits all strategy does not

work

now in our defense as a pre-clinical

researcher

we try we really really try

we are passionate about what we do we

come to

work every day and with the help of

amazing staff

and fabulous trainees we run our

experiments

looking for mechanisms of disease the

identification

of novel therapeutic targets and we test

the safety

and efficacy of novel compounds

we’re doing everything right

but are we really did you know

that women live longer than men but also

suffer from more chronic illnesses

delayed

diagnoses misdiagnoses

and also suffer from more drug side

effects than men do

let’s go back to our example of

depression

women are twice as likely to develop

depression

and they also suffer from heightened

stress susceptibility

which is a major risk factor for

depression

there’s even evidence to suggest that

men and women respond

to antidepressants differently

so again i have to ask the question

what’s the biological basis for these

differences

well unfortunately i can’t give you that

answer

and the reason that i can’t give you

that answer is because

we simply don’t know and one of the main

reasons that we don’t know

is because historically preclinical

research

which studies mechanisms of disease have

predominantly used

male subjects and this male

centric research is by no means

restricted to depression

now this was a study that examined

10 biological disciplines and what they

were looking for

was how much of this research included

males

females or both

what they found was in eight out of the

ten disciplines

there was a significant male bias

disciplines that included physiology

pharmacology

endocrinology behavior

neuroscience was actually one of the

worst culprits with

five studies done in males for every one

that was done in females now when we

look at the data as a whole

we can see that almost 50 percent of

studies

only use males in their research

19 didn’t even disclose

what sex was being used

25 actually did use both males and

females and they should be applauded

but of these the majority did not even

examine the sex

as an experimental variable

so this study is from 2018 let’s fast

forward

to 2020. see if we’re doing any better

so this study did the same thing where

they looked at

inclusivity of males and females in

research but they focused on

neuroscience studies

both pre-clinical and clinical

so when we look at the pre-clinical

studies in the rats and mice

we’re not doing any better about 75

percent of these studies used either

only males

or they used both sexes but not did not

examine sex

as a significant experimental variable

now the clinical studies did a little

better and that they were

more likely to include both men and

women in their research

but again same problem they did not look

at sex as an important

biological variable so if there are

important sex differences in behavior

health and disease how are we going to

know what they are

if we never actually study it

so this appears to be where we’re at

with the big iceberg representing

what we know about men in health

research in health research

disease and behavior and the small

iceberg representing what we know about

women

so how did we get to this place

how is it that we have focused all our

attention

on the males well there have been a few

assumptions that have been made over the

years that have led us here

the first assumption is that when we

look at our experimental data

females are more variable than males

and this is owed to hormonal variation

across the easter cycle and this jumps

right into the second assumption

that if we use females in our research

they have to be staged

which means that for every parameter

that we look at

we need to know what stage in the easter

cycle

these animals are in now i’m not

up here arguing that female hormones

don’t have biological effects of course

they have biological effects

but guess what male hormones have

biological effects too

and as it turns out recent studies have

shown

that in fact there is little to no

differences

in variability between males

and unstaged females and i’m just going

to give you one example here

so again we’re looking at neuroscience

studies

and here they examined differences in

experimental vari

data variability between males and

unstaged females

across various methodological approaches

and as you can see clearly there is

variability in the females

and it is likely that female hormones

actually contributed to this variability

but males also showed variability

why are we so much less concerned about

what contributes

to this variability

and this leads us to the last assumption

now when we incorporate

females into our research of course we

have to

increase the number of animals that are

used

this does lead to increased costs

but it is assumed that it also delays

progress

but if there are important biological

sex differences

isn’t it important that we know what

they are and if we knew this

wouldn’t this in fact increase

progress

so i’m up here talking to you about

inclusivity

in pre-clinical research and yes

i might talk a good talk but i also walk

the log

and i want to show you some of my own

research which will help

reinforce why we need to use both

sexes now one of the things that

i work on is brain waves

this is electrical activity in the brain

that is critical

to communication both between brain

regions

and within brain regions importantly

these brain wave patterns are highly

coupled

to behavioral states and disease states

and in my research i look at sex

differences in these brain wave patterns

in the context of neuropsychiatric

disorders

now brain waves are made up from various

frequencies

as shown and in our research

we look at sex-dependent effects of

stress

on these brain wave patterns and the

relationship

to the development of depression-like

behaviors

now when we take rats and we expose them

to very mild stressors

over the course of a long period of time

they develop these depression-like

behaviors

but what we notice is that some animals

are susceptible to the stress and so far

as they develop these behaviors

much sooner we call these rats

stress susceptible and they are

different

from those animals that develop the

depression-like behaviors later

which we call stress resilient

so one of the parameters that we can

look at

when examining these brain wave patterns

is something that we call spectral power

and to put it very simply spectral power

is related to the amplitude of the wave

now we when we looked at female animals

that were exposed to these stressors

we saw that those that were stressed

susceptible

actually showed a decrease in theta

power

and an increase in delta power across a

number of regions

in the brain we did not see this

in the females that were stress

resilient

when we looked at the male animals the

first thing we noticed

is that they they took twice as long to

develop these depression-like behaviors

so they were already showing a

resilience to the stress that the

females did not have

however when we compared the susceptible

and the resilient males

we found no stress dependent changes

in these brain wave patterns that could

distinguish between these two groups

so another parameter that we could look

at is something called

coherence and again in very simple terms

this is related to how well

two brain waves synchronize

when we looked at the females we saw a

widespread

decrease in theta coherence across

multiple brain regions in the stress

susceptible

animals only

we did not see this in the stress

susceptible males

in fact when we looked at the stress

susceptible males we found

no brainwave signatures that we could

use to actually identify them

what we did see was a change in the

resilient males when they were exposed

to stress

and this was a widespread increase

in gamma coherence

so what does this tell us it tells us

that even though

males and females may have behaviors

that look

the same the underlying mechanisms

that regulate these behaviors is in fact

different and it gets better

we actually went back in time because we

wanted to see

how these brain wave patterns changed

upon initial exposure to stress

we found that these changes occurred

relatively early

and in fact we could use them to predict

with

high accuracy which animals

were going to develop the

depression-like behaviors

sooner or later so we could identify

the stress-resilient and

stress-susceptible animals

in a sex-dependent way before these

behaviors developed

and what’s even more remarkable when we

looked at the females and the females

only they showed

very unique signatures that we could use

to identify

those animals that were stressed

susceptible or stress resilient

before they were even exposed to the

stress

we were very excited about this because

we thought not

only can we use sex-dependent brainwave

signatures

as biomarkers for established depression

but maybe we can also use them

to identify those that have increased

depression vulnerability and this could

lead to

increased monitoring and early

interventions

as necessary so this brings me to the

end of the talk and if there’s one thing

i hope that you get from that

this is that inclusivity is very

important

and although i’ve spoken about it in the

context of pre-clinical research

it really is important in everything we

do

when we are inclusive we enrich the

lives

of everybody thank you

you

大家好,

谢谢你们今天收听我的演讲,

所以在 1992 年,

美国作家和关系

顾问约翰·格雷写了一本畅销书,这本书背后的主要思想

是,男女之间最常见的关系

问题

是先天的结果

两性之间的心理差异

来描述这一点,他用了一个比喻,

男人来自火星

,女人来自金星,他

说男人和女人

来自不同的星球,

我们适应

了我们自己星球的社会和习俗,

但不适应那些 另一个星球

现在讨论的关于

为什么男人和女人来自不同

星球的主题之一

是我们对压力

刺激的反应

不同的想法一个非常简单的

例子就是

当压力也许女人想

谈论我们的感受

而男人可能 想一个人呆着,

但作为一名神经科学家

,我脑海中浮现的第一个问题

是为什么它们的生物学基础

是什么 行为上的差异,

这让我想到今天我想和

你谈谈

的观点是,从基本的

生物学角度来看,

男人和女人真的是不同的,或者

男人真的来自火星和女人

真的来自金星的比喻

, 然而,我们

对行为健康和疾病的生理性别差异

知之甚少,这为另外两个问题提供了答案,

为什么我们知之甚少,

甚至真的很重要,

所以开始回答这些问题我

想谈谈

关于神经精神疾病

,我现在知道一点,

这种联系可能不会

立即清楚,但请耐心

等待,

所以在神经精神病学中,对于大多数这些

疾病,

我们在

寻找新的

治疗有效药物方面做得并不

好哦 可以肯定的是,在过去的几十年里,

我们实际上

在改善这些药物的副作用方面做得很好,

但从总体上看,他们

实际上在改善症状方面并没有更好的效果

让我们以

抑郁症为例,

抑郁症是一种异质性疾病

,可能很难治疗

我们有一些药物在某些时候有效,

它们的副作用比其他的更严重,

而且它们可能需要很长时间

在那些有反应的人和那些没有反应的人身上工作很长时间

它通常需要用许多不同的药物进行多次试验,

然后才能找到一种有效的药物,如果我们甚至

找到一种有效的药物

,我们不要忘记复发

总是一个严重的问题

在抑郁症中 显然在这种情况下

一种药物适合所有策略

现在在我们的辩护中 作为临床前

研究人员

我们尝试 我们真的很努力

我们对我们所做的事情充满热情 我们

每天都在工作并且在惊人的帮助下

员工

和出色的学员 我们进行

实验以

寻找疾病机制

确定新的治疗靶点 我们测试

我们正在研究的新化合物的安全性和有效性 g 一切都对,

但我们真的知道吗

,女性比男性寿命更长,但也

患有更多慢性病,

延误

诊断,误诊

,并且遭受比男性更多的药物副作用

让我们回到抑郁症的例子,女性患

抑郁症的

可能性是男性的两倍 发展为

抑郁症,

并且他们还患有

压力敏感性升高

,这是抑郁症的主要风险因素,

甚至有证据表明

男性和女性

对抗抑郁药的反应不同,

所以我不得不再次问这个问题

,这些差异的生物学基础是什么,

不幸的是我 不能给你那个

答案

,我不能给你

那个答案的原因是因为

我们根本不知道

,我们不知道的主要原因之一

是因为历史

上研究疾病机制的临床前研究有

主要使用

男性受试者,这项以男性

为中心的研究绝不

限于抑郁症,

现在这是一个 研究检查了

10 个生物学学科,他们

正在寻找的

是这项研究中有多少包括

男性

女性或两者

他们发现在

10 个学科中

有 8 个存在显着的男性偏见

学科,其中包括生理学

药理学

内分泌行为

神经科学实际上是

最严重的罪魁祸首

之一,在男性中进行的每一项研究

都在女性中进行,现在当我们

查看整体数据时,

我们可以看到几乎 50% 的

研究

在他们的研究中只使用男性

19 甚至没有披露

使用什么性别

25 实际上确实使用了男性和

女性,他们应该受到赞扬,

但其中大多数甚至没有

将性别

作为实验变量进行检查,

所以这项研究是从 2018 年开始,让我们快

到 2020 年。看看我们是否 做得更好,

所以这项研究做了同样的事情,

他们着眼

于研究中男性和女性的包容性,

但他们专注于

神经科学研究

是临床前和临床的,

所以当我们查看

大鼠和小鼠的临床前研究时,

我们并没有做得更好,大约 75

% 的这些研究要么

使用了雄性,要么使用了两种性别但没有

检查性别

作为一个重要的实验变量,

现在临床研究

做得更好一些,他们

更有可能

在他们的研究中包括男性和女性,

但同样的问题,他们没有

将性别视为一个重要的

生物学变量,所以如果存在

重要的性别差异 在行为

健康和疾病

方面,

如果我们从未真正研究过它

,我们将如何知道它们是什么,所以这似乎是我们

所处的大冰山,它代表

了我们对健康

研究中的男性的了解在健康研究

疾病和行为和

代表我们对女性的了解的小冰山 那么我们是

如何到达这个地方的

我们如何将所有注意力都

集中在男性身上 有一些

假设 多年来所做的将

我们带到这里

的第一个假设是,当我们

查看我们的实验数据时,

女性比男性更具可

变性,这是由于

整个复活节周期的荷尔蒙变化,这

直接进入了第二个假设

如果我们在研究中使用雌性,

它们必须被分阶段

,这意味着对于

我们看到的每个参数,

我们需要知道这些动物现在处于复活节周期的哪个阶段,

我不是

在这里争论雌性激素没有

” t 具有生物学效应 当然

它们具有生物学效应,

但猜测什么雄性激素也具有

生物学效应

,事实证明,最近的研究

表明,实际上

男性

和未上演的女性之间的变异性几乎没有差异,我只是去

在这里给你一个例子,

所以我们再次研究神经

科学研究

,在这里他们检查了

男性和 unstag 之间的实验 vari 数据变异性的差异

各种方法对女性进行了研究

,正如你可以清楚地看到

,女性的变异

性很可能实际上是女性荷尔蒙

促成了这种变异性,

但男性也表现出变异性,

为什么我们不太关心是

什么导致

了这种变异性,

而这

现在,当我们将

雌性纳入研究时,我们得出最后一个假设,当然,我们

必须

增加使用的动物数量,

这确实会导致成本增加,

但假设它也会延迟

进展,

但如果存在重要的生物学

性别差异

我们知道它们是什么不是很重要吗?

如果我们知道

这实际上不会增加

进展,

所以我在这里和你谈论

临床前研究的包容性,是的,

我可能会好好谈谈,但我 也

走日志

,我想向您展示我自己的一些

研究,这将有助于

加强为什么我们现在需要使用

两性,这是我认为的事情

之一 或者是脑电波

这是大脑中的电活动,对大脑

区域之间

和大脑区域内的交流至关重要,重要的是,

这些脑电波模式

与行为状态和疾病状态高度

相关

神经精神疾病背景下的脑电波模式

现在脑电波由各种

频率组成

,如图所示,在我们的研究中,

我们着眼于

压力

对这些脑电波模式的性别依赖性影响以及现在

与抑郁样行为发展的关系

当我们把老鼠放在很长一段时间内让它们

暴露在非常轻微的压力

下时,

它们会发展出这些类似抑郁的

行为,

但我们注意到有些动物

很容易受到压力的影响,而且

只要它们发展出这些行为

很多 我们越早称这些老鼠为

压力敏感者,它们

与那些发展出

抑郁症的动物不同 类似 sion 的行为

后来我们称之为压力弹性,

因此我们

检查这些脑电波模式

时可以查看的参数之一是我们称之为光谱功率的东西,

简单地说,光谱

功率与现在的波幅有关

当我们

观察暴露于这些压力源的雌性动物时,

我们发现那些受到压力的

易感动物

实际上在大脑的许多区域中表现出 theta 功率下降

和 delta 功率增加,

我们在雌性动物身上没有看到这一点

当我们观察雄性动物时,它们具有抗压能力

我们注意到的第一件事

是,它们发展这些抑郁样行为的时间是它们的两倍,

因此它们已经表现出

对压力的适应能力,而

雌性动物则没有,

但是当我们 比较易感

和有弹性的男性,

我们发现

这些脑电波模式中没有压力依赖性变化,可以

区分这两个群体 ps

所以我们可以看到的另一个参数

是所谓的

连贯性,用非常简单的术语来说,

这与我们观察女性时

两个脑电波同步的程度有关,

我们看到

压力下多个大脑区域的 theta 连贯性普遍下降

仅易感动物

我们没有在压力

易感的雄性

中看到这一点 事实上,当我们观察压力

易感的雄性时,我们

没有发现可以

用来实际识别它们的脑电波特征

我们确实看到的是

弹性雄性在它们处于 暴露

在压力下

,这

是伽马相干性的普遍增加,

所以这告诉我们什么,它告诉我们

,即使

男性和女性的行为

看起来相同

,但调节这些行为的潜在机制实际上是

不同的,而且我们会变得

更好 实际上回到过去,因为我们

看看这些脑电波模式

在最初暴露于压力 w 时是如何变化的

e发现这些变化发生得

相对较早

,实际上我们可以使用它们来

高精度预测哪些

动物迟早会发展出

类似抑郁的行为,

因此我们可以识别

出性别中的压力弹性和压力敏感动物 -在这些行为发展之前的依赖方式,

更值得注意的是,当我们

观察雌性时,

只有雌性显示出

非常独特的特征,我们可以用这些特征

来识别

那些在暴露于压力之前就压力

敏感或压力弹性的动物

我们对此感到非常兴奋,因为

我们认为

我们不仅可以使用与性别相关的脑电波

特征

作为确定抑郁症的生物标志物,

而且也许我们还可以使用它们

来识别那些增加

抑郁症易感性的人,这可能

会导致

增加监测和早期

干预,

因为 有必要,所以这让我

结束了谈话,如果有一个薄

gi 希望你能从

中了解到包容性是非常

重要的

,尽管我已经在

临床前研究的背景下谈到了

它,但当我们包容性时,我们所做的一切确实很重要,

我们丰富

了每个人的生活谢谢