Parkinsons depression and the switch that might turn them off Andres Lozano

one of the things that one established

right from the start is that not all

neurosurgeons wear cowboy boots I just

wanted you to know that so I am indeed a

neurosurgeon and I follow a long

tradition of neurosurgery and I’m going

to tell you about today is adjusting the

dials in the circuits in the brain being

able to go anywhere in the brain and

turning areas of the brain up or down to

help our patients so as I said

neurosurgery comes from a long tradition

it’s been around for about 7,000 years

in Mesoamerica there used to be

neurosurgery and there were you these

neurosurgeons I used to treat patients

and they were trying to they knew that

the brain was involved in neurological

and psychiatric disease they didn’t know

exactly what they were doing not much

was changed by the way but they were

they they thought that if you had a

neurologic or psychiatric disease it

must be because you are possessed by an

evil spirit so if you are possessed by

an evil spirit causing neurologic or

psychiatric problems then the way to

treat this is of course to make a hole

in your skull and let the evil spirit

escape so this is a thinking back then

and these individuals made these holes

sometimes the patients were a little bit

reluctant to go through this because you

can tell that the holes are made

partially and then I think you know

there was some trepidation and they left

very quickly and it was only a partial

hole so and we knew these they survived

these procedures but this was common and

there were some sites where 1% of all

the skulls AB these holes and so you can

see that neurologic and psychiatric

disease is quite common and it was also

quite common about 7,000 years ago now

in the course of time we come to realize

that different parts of the brain do

different things so their areas of the

brain that are dedicated to controlling

your movement or your vision or your

memory or your appetite and so on and

when things work well then the nervous

system works well and everything

conscience but once in a while things

don’t go so well and there’s trouble in

these circuits and there are some rogue

neurons that are misfiring and causing

trouble or sometimes they’re in

underactive and they’re not quite

working as they should

now the manifestation of this depends on

where in the brain these neurons are so

when these neurons are in the motor

circuit you get dysfunction in the

movement system and you get things like

Parkinson’s disease when the malfunction

is in a circuit that regulates your mood

you get things like depression and when

it is in a circuit that controls your

memory and cognitive function then you

get things like Alzheimer’s disease so

what we’ve been able to do is to

pinpoint where these disturbances are in

the brain and we’ve been able to

intervene within these circuits in the

brain to either turn them up or turn

them down so this is very much like

choosing the correct station on the

radio dial once you choose the right

station whether it be jazz or opera and

then our case would be movement or mood

we can put the dial there and then we

can use a second button to adjust the

volume to turn it up or turn it down so

what I’m going to tell you about is

using the circuitry of the brain to

implant electrodes and turning areas of

the brain up and down to see if we can

help our patients and this is

accomplished using this kind of device

and this is called deep brain

stimulation so what we’re doing is

placing these electrodes throughout the

brain these are again we are making

holes in the skull about the size of a

dime putting an electrode in and then

this electrode is completely underneath

the skin down to a pacemaker in the

chest and with a remote control very

much like a television remote control we

can adjust how much electricity we

deliver to these areas of the brain we

can turn it up or down on or off now

about a hundred thousand patients in the

world have received deep brain

stimulation and I’m going to show you

some examples of using deep brain

stimulation to treat disorders of

movement disorders of mood and disorders

of cognition so let’s look something

like this when it’s in the brain you see

the electrode going through the skull

into the brain and resting there and we

can place this really anywhere in the

brain I tell my friends that no neuron

is safe from a neurosurgeon because we

can really reach just about anywhere in

the rain' quite safely now

now the first example I’m going to show

you is a patient with Parkinson’s

disease and this lady has Parkinson’s

disease and she has these electrodes in

her brain and I’m gonna show you what

she’s like when the electrodes are

turned off and she has her Parkinson’s

symptoms and then we’re gonna turn it on

so this looks something like this now

and you can see that she has tremor

we’re now going to turn it on it’s on

just turn it on

and this works like that instantly and

the difference between shaking in this

way and not the difference between

shaking in this way and not is related

to the misbehavior of 25,000 neurons in

her subthalamic nucleus so we now know

how to define these troublemakers and

tell them gentlemen that’s enough we

want you to stop doing that and we do

that with electricity so use electricity

to dictate how they fire and we try to

block their misbehavior using

electricity so in this case we are

suppressing the activity I have normal

neurons we started using this technique

in other problems I’m going to tell you

about a fascinating problem that we

encountered a case of dystonia so

dystonia is a is a disorder affecting

children it’s a genetic disorder and

involves a twisting motion and these

children get progressively more and more

twisting until they can’t breathe that

till they get sores urinary infections

then they die so back in 1997 I was

asked to see this young boy perfectly

normal

he has this genetic form of dystonia

there are eight children in the family

five of them have dystonia so here he is

this boy is nine years old perfectly

normal until the age six and then he

started twisting his body first the

right foot from the left foot and the

right arm from the left arm then the

trunk and then by the time he arrived

within the course of one or two years

the disease onset he could no longer

walk he could no longer stand he was

crippled and indeed the natural

progression is this gets worse is for

them to become progressively twisted

progressively disabled and many of these

children do not survive so he is one of

five kids the only way he could get

around was crawling on his belly like

this he did not respond to any drugs we

did not know what to do with this boy we

did not know what operation to do where

to go in the brain but on the basis of

our results in Parkinson’s disease we

reasoned why don’t we try to suppress

the same area in the brain that we

suppress in Parkinson’s disease and

let’s see what happens so here he was we

operated on him hoping that he would get

better we did not know

so here he is now back in Israel where

he lives three months after the

procedure and here he is

on the basis of this result this is now

procedure that’s done throughout the

world and there’d been hundreds of

children that have been helped with this

kind of surgery this voice now in the

university and leads quite a normal life

this has been one of the most satisfying

cases that I’ve ever done in my entire

career to restore movement and walking

to this kind of we realize that perhaps

we could use this technology not only in

circuits that control your movement but

also circuits that control other things

and the next thing we took on was

circuits that control your mood and we

decided to take on depression and the

reason we took on depression is because

it’s so prevalent and as you know there

are many treatments for depression with

medications or psychotherapy even

electroconvulsive therapy but there are

millions of people and there are still

10 or 20% of patients with depression

that do not respond and it is these

patients that we want to help and let’s

see if we can use this technique to help

these patients with depression so the

first thing we did was we compared

what’s different in the brain of someone

with depression and someone who is

normal and what we did was PET scans to

look at the blood flow of the brain and

what we noticed is that in patients with

depression compared to normals areas of

the brain are shut down and those are

the areas in blue so here you really

have the blues and the areas in blue our

areas that are involved in motivation

and drive and decision-making and indeed

if you’re severely depressed as these

patients were those are impaired you

lack motivation and drive the other

thing we discovered was an area that was

overactive area 25 seen there in red and

area 25 is the sadness center of the

brain if I take make any of you sad for

example I make you remember the last

time you saw your parent before they

died or a friend before they died this

area of the brain lights up it is the

sadness center of the brain and so

patients with depression have

hyperactivity the area of the brain for

sadness is on red hot it’s the

thermostat is set at a hundred degrees

and the other is the brain involved in

driving motivation are shut down so we

wondered can we place electrodes in this

area of sadness and see if we can turn

down the thermostat can we turn down the

activity and what will be the

consequence of that so we went ahead and

implanted electrodes

in patients with depression this is work

done with my colleague Helen May bird

from Emory and we placed electrodes in

area 25 and on the top scan you see

before the operation area 25 the sadness

areas red hot and the frontal lobes are

shut down and blue and then after three

months of continuous stimulation 24

hours a day or six months of continued

simulation we have a complete reversal

of this we’re able to drive down area 25

down to a more normal level and were

able to turn back on line the frontal

lobes of the brain and indeed we’re

seeing very striking results in these

patients with severe depression so now

we are in clinical trials in our phase 3

clinical trials and this may become a

new procedure if it’s safe and we find

that it’s effective to treat patients

with severe depression I’ve shown you

that we can use deep brain stimulation

to treat the motor system in cases of

Parkinson’s disease in dystonia I’ve

shown you that we can use it to treat a

mood circuit in cases of depression can

we use deep brain stimulation to make

you smarter anybody interested in that

of course we can’t write so what we

decided to do is we’re going to try to

turbocharge the memory circuits in the

brain we’re going to place electrodes

within the circuits that regulate your

memory and cognitive function to see if

we can turn up their activity now we’re

not going to do this in normal people

we’re gonna do this in people that have

cognitive deficits and we’ve chosen to

treat patients with Alzheimer’s disease

who have cognitive and memory deficits

as you know this is the main symptoms of

early onset Alzheimer’s disease so we’ve

placed electrodes within the circuit in

an area of the brain called the fornix

which is a highway in and out of this

memory circuit with the idea to see if

we can turn on this memory circuit and

whether that can in turn help these

patients with Alzheimer’s disease now it

turns out that in Alzheimer’s disease

there’s a huge deficit in glucose

utilization in the brain the brain is a

bit of a hog when it comes to using

glucose it uses 20% of all year even

though it only weighs 2% it uses ten

times more glucose than it should based

on its weight 20% of all glucose in your

body is used by the brain and as you go

from being normal to having mild

cognitive impairment which is a

precursor of Alzheimer’s all the way to

Alzheimer’s disease then there are areas

of the brain that’s stopped using

glucose they shut down they turn off and

indeed what we see is that these areas

in red around the outside ribbon of the

brain are progressively getting more and

more blue until they cut down completely

this is analogous to having a power

failure in an area of the brain a

regional power failure so the lights are

out in parts of the brain in patients

with Alzheimer’s disease and the

question is are the lights out forever

or can we turn the lights back on can we

get those areas of the brain to use

glucose once again so this is what we

did we implanted electrodes in the

fornix of patients with Alzheimer’s

disease we turned it on and we looked at

what happens to glucose use in the brain

and indeed at the top you’ll see before

the surgery the areas in blue are the

areas that use less glucose than normal

predominantly the parietal and temporal

lobes these areas of the brain are shut

down

the lights are out in these areas of the

brain we then put in the DBS electrodes

that we wait for a month or a year and

the areas in red represent the air is

where we increase glucose utilization

and indeed we are able to get these

errors of the brain that were not using

glucose to use glucose once again so the

message here is that in Alzheimer’s

disease the lights are out but there is

someone home and we’re able to turn the

power back on to these areas of the

brain and as we do so we expect that

their functions will return so this is

now in clinical trials we are going to

operate on 50 patients with early

Alzheimer’s disease to see whether this

is safe and effective whether we can

improve their neurologic function so the

message I want to leave you with today

is that indeed there are several

circuits in the brain that are

malfunctioning across various disease

states whether we’re talking about

Parkinson’s disease depression

schizophrenia Alzheimer’s we are now

learning to understand what are the

circuits what are the areas of the brain

that are responsible for the clinical

signs and symptoms of those diseases we

can now reach those circuits we can

introduce electrodes within those

circuits we can graduate the activity of

the circuits we can turn them down if

they are overactive if they’re causing

trouble trouble that is fell throughout

the brain or we can turn them up if they

are underperforming and in so doing we

think that we may be able to help the

overall function of the brain the

implications of this of course is that

we may be able to modify the symptoms of

disease but I haven’t told you but

there’s also some evidence that we can

might be able to help the repair of

damaged areas of brain using electricity

and this is something for the future to

see if indeed we’d not only change the

activity but also some of the reparative

functions the brain can be harvested so

I envisage that we’re going to see a

great expansion of indications of this

technique we’re going to see electrons

being placed for many disorders on the

brain one of the most exciting things

about this is that indeed it involves

multidisciplinary work it involves the

work of engineers of imaging scientists

of basic scientists of neurologists

psychiatrists neurosurgeons and

certainly at the interface of these

multiple disciplines that there’s the

excitement

and I think that we will see that indeed

we will be able to chase more of these

evil spirits out from the brain as time

goes on and the consequence of that of

course will be that we will be able to

help many more patients thank you very

much

从一开始就确定的一件事是,并非所有

神经外科医生都穿牛仔靴

正在调整

大脑回路中的刻度盘

能够进入大脑的任何位置 并向

上或向下转动大脑区域以

帮助我们的患者 所以正如我所说的

神经外科来自于一个悠久的传统

它在中美洲已经存在了大约 7000 年

曾经有

神经外科,还有你们这些

神经外科医生,我曾经治疗病人

,他们正在努力,他们

知道大脑与神经

和精神疾病有关,他们不

知道自己在做什么,并没有太大

的改变。 但是

他们认为如果你患有

神经或精神疾病,那

一定是因为你被邪灵附身,

所以如果你

被邪灵附身 如果出现神经或

精神问题,那么

治疗这个问题的方法当然是

在你的头骨上打一个洞,让邪恶的灵魂

逃脱,所以这是当时的想法

,这些人做了这些洞,

有时病人有点

不愿意去 通过这个,因为你

可以看出这些洞是部分制造的

,然后我想你知道

有一些恐惧,他们很快就离开了

,这只是一个部分的

洞,所以我们知道这些他们在

这些程序中幸存下来,但这很常见,而且

有 一些地方 1%

的头骨 AB 有这些洞 所以你可以

看到神经和精神

疾病很常见 而且在

大约 7000 年前也很常见

现在随着时间的推移我们开始

意识到 大脑做

不同的事情,所以他们的

大脑区域专门用于控制

你的运动、你的视力、你的

记忆或你的食欲等等,

当事情进展顺利时, 他的神经

系统运作良好,一切都很

良心,但

有时事情并不顺利,

这些电路出现问题,并且有一些流氓

神经元失灵并造成

麻烦,或者有时它们处于不

活跃状态,但它们不是 非常

有效,因为它们现在应该发挥作用,

这种表现取决于

这些神经元在大脑中的位置,所以

当这些神经元在运动

回路中时,您会在

运动系统中出现功能障碍,

当故障出现在回路中时,您会患上帕金森病等疾病

调节你的情绪

你会得到像抑郁这样的东西,当

它处于控制你的

记忆和认知功能的电路中时,你

就会得到像阿尔茨海默病这样的

东西,所以我们能够做的是

查明这些干扰

在大脑中的位置,我们 已经能够

在大脑中的这些电路中进行干预

,将它们调高或

调低,所以这非常类似于在大脑中

选择正确的电台

收音机拨号一旦您选择了正确的

电台,无论是爵士乐还是歌剧,

然后我们的情况就是运动或情绪,

我们可以将拨号盘放在那里,然后我们

可以使用第二个按钮来调节

音量以将其调高或调低,所以

我要告诉你的是

使用大脑的电路来

植入电极

并上下转动大脑区域,看看我们是否可以

帮助我们的病人,这是

使用这种设备完成的

,这被称为深度 大脑

刺激,所以我们正在做的是

将这些电极放置在整个

大脑中,这些又是我们

在头骨上打洞,大约一角钱大小,

将电极放入,然后

这个电极完全在

皮肤下面,一直到心脏中的起搏器

胸部和遥控器

非常像电视遥控器 我们

可以调整我们

向大脑的这些区域输送多少电力 我们

可以打开或关闭它 现在

大约有十万患者

世界已经接受了深部脑

刺激,我将向你展示

一些使用深部脑

刺激治疗

运动障碍、情绪障碍

和认知障碍的例子,所以让我们

看看当它在大脑中时,你

会看到电极在移动 通过头骨

进入大脑并在那里休息,

我们可以把它放在

大脑的任何

地方 我要给

你看一个帕金森

病患者,这位女士患有帕金森

病,她的大脑里有这些电极

,我要给你看

当电极关闭时她的样子

,她有帕金森的

症状 然后我们要打开它,

所以现在看起来像这样

,你可以看到她有颤抖

我们现在要打开它打开

它就打开它

,这就像 那瞬间以及

以这种

方式

摇动与以这种方式摇动与不以这种方式摇动之间的区别

与她的丘脑底核中 25,000 个神经元的不当行为有关,

因此我们现在知道

如何定义这些麻烦制造者并

告诉他们先生们,我们想要的就足够了

你停止这样做,我们

用电来做,所以用电

来决定他们如何发射,我们试图

用电来阻止他们的不当行为,

所以在这种情况下,我们正在

抑制活动我有正常的

神经元我们开始

在其他问题中使用这种技术我 ‘我要告诉

你一个有趣的问题,我们

遇到了一个肌张力障碍病例,所以

肌张力障碍是一种影响

儿童的疾病,它是一种遗传疾病,

涉及扭转运动,这些

孩子逐渐变得越来越

扭曲,直到他们无法呼吸

直到他们得了尿路感染疮

然后他们死了所以早在 1997 年我被

要求看看这个小男孩完全

正常

他 患有这种遗传形式的肌张力障碍

家里有 8 个孩子,其中

5 人患有肌张力障碍,所以他就是

这个男孩,

直到 6 岁,他才 9 岁,完全正常,然后他

开始从左脚开始扭动他的身体

右臂从左臂,然后是

躯干,然后到他

在一两年内

到达时,疾病发作,他再也不能

走路了,他再也无法站立

是为了让

他们逐渐扭曲

逐渐残疾,这些

孩子中的许多人无法生存,所以他是

五个孩子之一,他能绕过的唯一方法

就是像这样趴着爬行

他对任何药物都没有反应,我们

不知道是什么 与这个男孩做手术 我们

不知道在大脑的哪个部位做什么手术,

但根据

我们在帕金森病中的结果,我们

推断为什么我们不尝试抑制

大脑中的同一区域 我们

抑制帕金森病,

让我们看看会发生什么,所以他在这里我们

对他进行了手术,希望他会

好起来我们不知道,

所以他现在回到以色列,手术

后三个月他住在以色列

,现在他

在 这个结果的基础 这是现在

在世界范围内完成的程序,

已经有数百名

儿童接受了

这种手术的帮助 这个声音现在在

大学里,过着相当正常的生活

这是最

我在整个

职业生涯中做过的令人满意的案例来恢复运动和行走

到这种状态 我们意识到也许

我们不仅可以在

控制你的运动的电路中使用这项技术,

还可以在控制其他事物的电路中使用这项技术,

以及我们接下来要做的事情 接受的是

控制你情绪的电路,我们

决定接受抑郁症,

我们接受抑郁症的原因是因为

它非常普遍,而且你知道

有很多治疗抑郁症的方法 用

药物或心理治疗,甚至

电休克治疗,但仍有

数百万人,仍有

10% 或 20% 的抑郁症患者

没有反应

,我们想要帮助的正是这些患者,让

我们看看是否可以使用这种技术 帮助

这些抑郁症患者,所以

我们做的第一件事就是比较

抑郁症患者和

正常人的大脑有什么不同,我们所做的是 PET 扫描来

观察大脑的血流,

我们注意到的是 与正常人相比,

抑郁症患者

的大脑区域被关闭,那些

是蓝色区域,所以在这里你真的

有忧郁症和蓝色

区域 我们与动机

、驱动力和决策有关的区域,事实上,

如果你 ‘严重抑郁,因为这些

患者是受损的,你

缺乏动力和驱动力

我们发现的另一件事是

过度活跃的区域 25 区域以红色显示

区域 25 是大脑的悲伤中心,

如果我拿让你们中的任何一个人感到悲伤,

例如,我让你记得

你在他们死前最后一次见到你的父母

或朋友在他们

死前是什么时候。

大脑的悲伤中心,因此

抑郁症患者

过度活跃 大脑中

悲伤的区域处于炽热状态 它的

恒温器设置在一百度

,另一个是参与

驾驶动机的大脑被关闭,所以我们

想知道我们能不能 将电极放置在

悲伤的区域,看看我们是否可以

关闭恒温器 我们可以关闭

活动吗?这样做会产生什么

后果?所以我们继续

在抑郁症患者身上植入电极 这是

我的同事 Helen May 完成的工作

来自埃默里的鸟,我们在区域 25 放置了电极

,在顶部扫描中,您可以看到

手术区域 25 之前的悲伤

区域红热,额叶

关闭并呈蓝色,然后在三

数月的连续刺激

一天 24 小时或 6 个月的连续

模拟 我们完全扭转

了这种情况 我们能够将区域 25

降低到更正常的水平并

能够重新回到

大脑额叶的线上 事实上,我们

在这些患有严重抑郁症的患者身上看到了非常显着的结果,

所以现在

我们正在进行 3 期

临床试验的临床试验,

如果它是安全的,并且我们

发现它对治疗

严重抑郁症患者有效,这可能会成为一种新程序 我已经向您展示

了我们可以使用深部脑刺激

来治疗

肌张力障碍中的帕金森病患者的运动系统 我已经

向您展示了我们可以使用它来治疗

抑郁症患者的情绪回路

我们可以使用深部脑刺激来治疗 让

你更聪明 任何对此感兴趣

的人当然不能写所以我们

决定做的是我们将尝试对大脑中

的记忆电路进行涡轮增压

我们将在大脑中

放置电极 调节你的

记忆和认知功能的因素 看看

我们现在是否可以提高他们的活动 我们

不会在正常人身上

这样做 我们会在有认知缺陷的人身上这样做

我们选择

治疗患有

患有认知和记忆缺陷的阿尔茨海默病,

正如您所知,这是

早发性阿尔茨海默病的主要症状,因此我们

在电路中放置了电极,位于

称为穹窿的大脑区域,

它是进出该

记忆回路的高速公路 想看看

我们是否可以打开这个记忆回路,以及这

是否能反过来帮助这些

患有阿尔茨海默病的

患者 猪在使用

葡萄糖时,它使用了全年的 20%,

即使它只有 2% 的重量,它使用的

葡萄糖是它应该使用的葡萄糖的 10 倍,

基于它的体重你体内所有葡萄糖的 20%

被 t 使用 他的大脑,当你

从正常到有轻度

认知障碍,这

是阿尔茨海默病的前兆,一直到

阿尔茨海默病,然后

大脑中的某些区域停止使用

葡萄糖,它们关闭它们关闭,

实际上我们看到的是 大脑

外带周围的这些红色

区域逐渐变得

越来越蓝,直到它们完全消失,

这类似于

大脑某个

区域出现电源故障,区域性电源故障,因此部分区域的灯

熄灭了

阿尔茨海默病患者的大脑,

问题是灯是永远熄灭

还是我们可以重新打开灯我们

可以让大脑的这些区域再次使用

葡萄糖所以这就是我们

所做的 我们在患者的穹窿中植入了电极

对于阿尔茨海默

病,我们打开了它,我们观察

了大脑中葡萄糖使用会发生什么变化

,实际上在顶部你会在

手术前看到蓝色区域是

ar 使用葡萄糖比正常少的 EA

主要是顶叶和颞

叶 大脑的这些区域被关闭 大脑

这些区域的灯熄灭了,

然后我们放入 DBS 电极

,等待一个月或一年,

这些区域 红色代表空气

是我们增加葡萄糖利用率的地方

,实际上我们能够让

大脑的这些错误不再使用

葡萄糖来再次使用葡萄糖,所以

这里的信息是,在阿尔茨海默

病中,灯熄灭了,但

有人 回到家,我们能够

重新打开大脑这些区域的电源

,我们希望

它们的功能会恢复,所以现在这是

在临床试验中,我们将对

50 名早期

阿尔茨海默病患者进行手术,以 看看这

是否安全有效,我们是否可以

改善他们的神经功能所以

我今天想给你的信息

是,大脑中确实有几个

回路出现

故障 跨越各种疾病

状态 无论我们谈论的是

帕金森氏病 抑郁症

精神分裂症 阿尔茨海默氏症 我们现在正在

学习了解

什么是回路

负责

这些疾病临床症状和体征的大脑区域是什么 我们

现在可以到达这些回路 我们可以

在这些

电路中引入电极 我们可以对这些电路的活动进行分级

如果

它们过度活跃 如果它们引起

麻烦

我们可以关闭它们 如果它们引起了整个大脑的麻烦 或者如果它们表现不佳我们可以将它们打开

等等 我们

认为我们可能能够帮助

大脑的整体功能,

这当然意味着

我们可能能够改变疾病的症状,

但我没有告诉你,但

也有一些证据表明我们

可以 能够用电来帮助修复

受损的大脑区域

,这是未来的事情,

看看我们是否真的不仅会改变

活动 生命力,还有

大脑可以获取的一些修复功能,所以

我设想我们将看到

这种技术的适应症得到很大扩展,

我们将看到电子

被放置在

大脑中的许多疾病中 令人兴奋的

事情是它确实涉及

多学科工作它涉及

成像科学家的工程师

神经学家

精神病学家神经外科医生的工作,

当然在这些

多学科的交汇处,有

令人兴奋的

事情,我认为我们会看到,确实

我们

随着时间的推移,将能够从大脑中驱逐更多的这些恶灵

,结果

当然是我们将能够

帮助更多的患者,非常感谢