Green Brexit

my talk today is going to be on green

brexit or on

green politics after brexit but what i

want to do today is

offer you three perspectives which

hopefully will

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help us to concentrate our activism on

this issue so i think my

talk it really is going to be less about

the concrete practicalities of how we

can campaign on this there are people

who are better placed to speak about

that

and more to sort of offer these

perspectives from which we can get a

better sense of what needs to be done

what things

need to be monitored where in other

words we need to pay attention

so these three perspectives are as

follows the first

sees brexit as a problem of political

attention

the second sees brexit as a problem of

international cooperation

and the third um goes a bit more into

the nitty-gritty of the uk’s current

policy landscape which again

has been made even more uncertain uh by

covid

and we’ll have time in the q a to

discuss um the talk and

any any other things you want to raise

so i suppose it might be good to think

about when we sort of just

step back a bit and think about december

2019 the um

general election uh i spent a lot of

time going to door to door

in my borough of tower hamlets in london

and

i personally found it very difficult to

persuade voters of the environment’s

relative importance of its importance

most people

you know agreed many agreed that we need

to take urgent

political action to address the climate

crisis

but leave voters especially were given

very few options at the ballot box

labor’s then uh notoriously unclear

brexit stance

was nevertheless softer than the

conservatives

whose manifesto paid comparatively less

attention to the environment as a

strategic priority despite

these kind of ad hoc pledges on plastics

farming subsidies

offshore wind power but the greens and

the lib dems of course were

unequivocally remain parties

and this created a huge problem how are

you supposed to vote if you wanted to

leave the eu but without

potentially compromising environmental

standards

in other words the election produced a

cleavage that didn’t need to be there

and which failed to accurately reflect

public opinion

the campaign group friends of the earth

whose website is worth checking out

if you’re interested in this issue

reported on opinion polls

at the time which showed that whether

you were leave or remain over 80 percent

of the

uk electorate wanted quote the same or

stronger protections for our wildlife

and environment

in a post-brexit britain those findings

were corroborated by

andy jordan professor of environmental

sciences at the university of east

anglia by the wildlife trust

and by the institute for public policy

research

all of these uh separate studies showed

that there is simply no political

appetite

with your leave or remain for lowering

environmental standards after brexit

cast your minds back to january or

february so again before kovid

complicated things still further there

were widespread reports

in the media of brexit fatigue

and i think this is an important issue

brexit’s sort of deep troubled choppy

waters

effectively drowned out other political

issues not just

within westminster in the media but

beyond that in in the eu

as well uh theresa may’s parliament was

among the most

legislatively uh inert in recent british

history

passed very few bills a mainstream news

outlets only

sporadically addressed brexit’s possible

impact on the environment

its effects however are not going to be

confined to these shores

they’re going to cascade outwards to the

eu

as a region and also potentially to the

world beyond

eu leaders hold major summits only four

times a year

and officials and diplomats have

privately complained of brexit’s

disruptiveness

and of the gridlock in which other

priorities are currently stuck

discussions of the eu’s long-term

environmental strategy

which aims to make its member states

carbon neutral by

2050 were repeatedly

marginalized with one diplomat

complaining uh quote

that we can’t make any progress on

climate change until brexit is resolved

one way or another

alexandra maria boxer from the lsc i

hope i’m pronouncing her name right

um wrote an excellent paper on this in

which she argued that brexit

has hijacked the eu agenda and as i said

i want to be really clear about this the

relationship between brexit and green

politics

um is an important one and its effects

will cascade outwards to the region

and will even have um potentially a

global impact

emmanuel macron for example has

repeatedly criticized brexit’s role in

slowing uh the eu’s response to the

paris agreement of 2016 uh whose mission

is to limit global warming uh to two

degrees celsius above

pre-industrial levels so this is my

first point

and this isn’t going to be an important

point for us as ordinary activists and

his citizens

brexit has dominated so much of our

political attention uh since the 2016

referendum

um and we need to sort of really try

hard to uh

keep track of what’s going on despite

all of these sort of complicated

narratives contradictions

uh and the sheer scale of news that’s

being presented um

to us my second perspective and a way of

framing um activism on this issue

um is to think a little bit i don’t want

to spend too much time on this thinking

about the dynamics of international um

cooperation there’s a really really good

book

let me forget its name now uh it’s

called global green politics by

peter newell it’s a relatively recent

book and he talks a little bit about

brexit and green politics

and he makes this really really good

point that because the climate crisis

is global uh green party or green

political manifestos around the world

are often and must be often strongly

internationalist

he also says that one of the

predicaments of contemporary green

politics

is how to deal with the international

system

with the westphalian logic of nation

states

given the unprecedented challenges

global challenges

with which we’re confronted it does seem

reasonable i think to ask whether new

bodies and international structures

are required to produce effective

consistent

long-term multilateral responses to this

global crisis

brexit theoretically at least as a

regional and domestic problem

flies in the face of these requirements

it’s also worth

pointing out that the uk historically

has been a key player in the

eu’s climate policy uh landscape

the passing of the climate change act in

2008 for example

um had a knock-on effect and it spurred

other eu members uh to act

so questions are naturally going to

arise about the balance of power

within the eu after brexit we’ve already

seen some

indications of how this might go but

again i don’t want to try and

sort of say anything too concrete here

and naturally this sort of change in the

balance of power will affect the block’s

environmental policies

um and attitudes a group of researchers

from

the university of sheffield pointed out

that climate change denying governments

in central and eastern europe poland

hungary for example

may become emboldened um by the uk’s uh

withdrawal

again these dynamics are hard to assess

and predict but it’s reasonable i think

to

anticipate some negative blowback

brexit then naturally raises questions

about the importance of multilateral

mechanisms and international cooperation

as neil puts it very succinctly the

debate

about europe and brexit in the united

kingdom is revealing of the dilemmas

greens face

in navigating this difficult space

between internationalism on the one hand

the need for a coordinated international

response

and localism on the other as i said my

campaigning on this very much falls

within the latter um

focusing on green issues within my

borough

wild brexit doesn’t necessarily signal

uh the uk’s retreat into itself

uh the concert and if you remember the

conservatives uh

had this disingenuous and not to mention

ambiguous

slogan of global britain with which they

tried to counteract this fear

but brexit certainly does make stat sort

of divergence

possible with a clear knock-on effect

for regional politics

it is really conceivable that those

divergences

um will negatively affect the uk’s

environmental policies but it might also

give us room to improve them

you know and it’s worth thinking about

that it’s worth pointing out that greens

and green activists have repeatedly

criticized what they see is the eu’s

environmentally costly and negligent

neo-liberalism

and there is a long history of green

descent within europe uh

sweden in the early to mid 1990s

is a good example of this

this brings me to my sort of third um

and final perspective um with which to

frame

uh green activism after brexit and

that’s the nitty-gritty of uk policy

brexit must be seen in a regional

european context in a global context but

it is

also perhaps even fundamentally a

domestic phenomenon

its environmental impact will be

determined almost exclusively i think

by our political leaders and their

appetites whose equivocations

make it difficult to know where to

concentrate our activism

uh house of laws committee concluded i

think this is from 2017

quite definitively that the eu is the

source of and a vehicle for

most of our environmental legislation

and protection

that goes from things like regulatory

standards to governance structures

to enforcement while alyssa gilbert and

maria carvalho from

the grantham foundation at lse have

anticipated what they say is

going to be a lack of sanctions and

enforcement of environmental regulation

once the uk leaves the eu the current

government of course

insists otherwise its latest update from

january 2020

again covert has sort of slowed the rate

of response on this

uh claims that the uk government and the

devolved administrations

are firmly committed to carbon pricing

as an effective tool

for achieving our carbon emissions

reductions targets for net zero

any future system they say will be at

least as ambitious

as the european union emissions trading

system

and that leaving the eu will not affect

our statutory commitments under the uk’s

climate change act which is after all

domestic

legislation the government also insists

that

the uk will remain a party to

international climate change agreements

including the paris agreement and that

its commitment to those agreements will

remain as strong as ever and will be

unaffected by leaving

the eu but observe as much

uh sort of more sharply uh much sharper

and more experienced than i have pointed

out that there are some

conspicuous silences in the government’s

um statements

the climate change act aside there are

currently no safeguards legal or

political for over 150 eu directives and

1

100 pieces of legislation which address

amongst other things things like water

quality

animal welfare emissions trading waste

disposal

many eu rules have not been translated

yet into british law and this

as we’re beginning to realize is a vast

and complex undertaking and it’s going

to happen at such speed

that it’s going to be very difficult for

us to effectively scrutinize them

the government really promises and

promises there are no guarantees that

the uk will maintain its environmental

standards let alone increase them

precisely because we’ll soon be outside

the eu emissions trading system

the fuel quality directive the renewable

energy directive to name just a few it

also remains to be seen how the fierce

competition for trade deals

uh not to mention the final form of

brexit uh perhaps the greatest variables

of all

it remains to be seen how these would

affect standards over time

michael gove who is a useful person to

talk about here because he’s an

ex-environment minister

and minister ex-minister for no deal

preparation

gov wants us to believe that our

standards will increase under this

proposed office

for environmental protection which at

any rate won’t open for a significant

while and covid again has delayed that

but it is sort of difficult to seriously

believe him

uh he’s been a long-standing critic of

the eu’s environmental standards

and the current environment uh secretary

george eustis

has shown in the way he’s voted that

it’s not easy to pursue a free trade

deal with trump’s america

whilst protecting food standards the

political appetite

for protecting standards i just don’t

think it’s there at the moment

one last thing then i’m done before we

can move on to the q a if you’re really

looking for

something to sort of hold on to here i

want to know more and i want to sort of

keep track of this keep track on the

government’s website

and in the media there are various

outlets reporting on this on the current

environment bill

that’s before parliament it’s a huge

piece of legislation um

it’s the most important piece of

legislation we could talk about

um its committee um has been suspended

until i think september because of kovid

but the bill is important because it’s

intended to effectively replace the

directives i i rattled off earlier

but on closer inspection it does no such

thing the new standards on air for

example which really affects my borrower

in particular and this is something i’m

really passionate about

won’t come into effect until 2022 and

there’ll be plenty of opportunities to

backslide before then the standards are

also demonstrably lower than the eu’s

as the environmental journalist fiona

harvey pointed out clause 81 of the bill

gives the secretary of state powers to

weaken targets for the chemical status

of water

and this is just one example of the

bill’s constructive or rather

destructive ambiguity

and i think the real challenge of

activists will be to keep track of this

bill

to unpack that constructive destructive

ambiguity

and to form coordinated responses uh

consistently over time

我今天的演讲将是关于绿色

英国脱欧或英国退欧

后的绿色政治,但我

今天想做的是

为您提供三个观点,

希望

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帮助我们将我们的行动主义集中在

这个问题上,所以我认为我的

演讲真的 将更少关注

我们

如何在这方面开展运动的具体实用性,有些

人更适合谈论

这一点

,更多的是提供这些

观点,我们可以从中

更好地了解需要做

什么 事情

需要监控,

换句话说,我们需要关注,

所以这三个观点

如下:第一个

认为英国脱欧是一个政治

关注

的问题,第二个认为英国脱欧是一个国际合作的问题

,第三个嗯更多地涉及

英国当前

政策格局的本质再次

因新冠病毒而变得更加不确定

,我们将有时间在质量保证中

讨论嗯谈话和

任何其他问题 你想提高,

所以我

想想想当我们

稍微退后一点,想想

2019 年 12 月的嗯

大选,嗯,我花了很多

时间

挨家挨户去我的塔楼 伦敦的小村庄

我个人发现很难

说服选民相信环境的

相对重要性

你认识的大多数人都同意许多人同意我们

需要采取紧急的

政治行动来解决气候

危机,

但特别是让选民

几乎没有选择 在投票箱中,

工党当时臭名昭著的

英国脱欧立场

比保守派

更温和 民主党当然是

明确的政党

,这造成了一个巨大的问题,

你应该如何投票 如果你想

离开欧盟但

又不影响环境

标准

,换句话说,选举产生了一个

不需要存在的裂痕,

并且未能准确反映

公众舆论

地球之友的竞选团体,

其网站值得一试

如果你对这个问题感兴趣,

当时的民意调查显示,无论

你是离开还是留在英国,超过 80%

英国选民希望在英国脱欧后

对我们的野生动物

和环境提供

相同或更强的保护

东英吉利大学环境科学教授安迪乔丹证实

了野生动物信托基金

和公共政策研究所

所有这些单独的研究表明

,你离开或留下根本没有政治兴趣降低

环境 brexit 后的标准让

你的想法回到 1 月或

2 月 kovid

使事情进一步复杂化

媒体广泛报道了英国退欧疲劳

,我认为这是一个重要问题

brexit 的那种深陷困境的波涛汹涌的

水域

有效地淹没了其他政治

问题,不仅

是威斯敏斯特在媒体上,

而且在欧盟之外

嗯,特蕾莎·梅的议会也是英国近代史上立法最迟钝的议会

之一,

通过的法案很少,主流新闻

媒体只是

偶尔提到英国退欧可能

对环境

造成的影响,但不会

局限于

他们要去的这些海岸 向外级联到

欧盟

作为一个地区,也有可能向欧盟

以外的世界级联

领导人每年仅举行四次重要峰会

,官员和外交官

私下抱怨英国脱欧的

破坏性

和其他

优先事项目前陷入的

僵局

旨在实现这一目标的欧盟长期环境战略

到 2050 年,碳中和的成员国

一再被

边缘化,一位

外交官抱怨

说,在

英国脱欧以某种方式解决之前,我们无法在气候变化方面取得任何进展

嗯,她为此写了一篇出色的论文,

其中她认为英国退欧

已经劫持了欧盟议程,正如我所说,

我想非常清楚这一点,

英国退欧与绿色政治之间的关系

是一个重要的关系,其影响

将向外级联到

例如,伊曼纽尔·

马克龙(Emmanuel Macron)一再批评英国脱欧在

减缓欧盟

对 2016 年《巴黎协定》的反应方面所起的

作用 这是我的

第一点

,这对我们来说不是一个重要的

点,因为普通的活动家和

他的公民

英国退欧已经占据了如此多的 自 2016 年公投以来,我们的

政治关注,

嗯,我们需要真正

努力,嗯,

跟踪正在发生的事情,尽管

所有这些复杂的

叙述,矛盾,

嗯,以及向我们展示的新闻的绝对规模

我的第二个观点和

在这个问题上构建 um 激进主义的一种方式 嗯,

不想花太多时间

思考国际 um 合作的动态

有一本非常好的

让我忘记它 现在起名字,呃,它

被彼得纽厄尔称为全球绿色政治,

这是一本相对较新的

书,他谈到了一些关于

英国退欧和绿色政治的内容

,他提出了这个非常好的

观点,因为气候危机

是全球呃绿色政党或绿色

政治宣言 世界

经常而且必须经常是强烈的

国际主义者,

他还说,

当代绿色政治的困境之一

是如何应对

考虑到我们面临的前所未有的挑战

全球挑战,

具有民族国家威斯特伐利亚逻辑的国际体系,

我认为询问是否需要新的

机构和国际

结构来对这场全球危机产生有效、

一致

的长期多边反应似乎是合理的

理论上,英国脱欧至少是一个

区域和国内问题

,面对这些要求

,还值得

指出的是,英国在历史

上一直是

欧盟气候政策的关键角色,例如 2008 年

气候变化法案的通过

产生了连锁反应,它促使

其他欧盟成员国采取行动,

所以在英国脱欧后自然会

出现关于欧盟内部力量平衡的问题,

我们已经

看到了一些

迹象表明这可能会如何发展,

但我还是没有 想在这里尝试

说一些过于具体的东西

,自然而然地,这种

权力平衡的变化将 影响街区的

环境政策

嗯和态度

谢菲尔德大学的一组研究人员指出

,气候变化否认

中欧和东欧国家的政府,

例如波兰匈牙利

可能会因为英国的 uh 再次退出而变得更加胆大妄为

,这些动态很难评估

和 预测,但我认为

预期一些负面的

退欧是合理的,然后自然会引发

关于多边机制和国际合作的重要性的问题,

因为尼尔非常简洁地指出,

关于欧洲和英国脱欧的辩论

揭示了绿党在航行中面临的困境

一方面国际主义之间存在困难空间,

另一方面需要协调一致的国际

反应

和地方主义,正如我所说,我

在这方面的竞选活动很大程度上

属于后者

英国撤退到我 本身

呃音乐会,如果你还记得

保守派呃

有这个不诚实的,更不用说

全球英国的模棱两可的口号了,他们试图用它

来抵消这种恐惧,

但英国脱欧确实使统计数据

的分歧成为

可能,并对地区产生明显的连锁反应

政治

确实可以想象,这些

分歧会对英国的环境政策产生负面影响,

但它也可能

给我们改进的空间,

你知道,值得思考的是

,值得指出的是,绿色

和绿色活动家一再

批评他们所看到的是 欧盟的

环境代价高昂和疏忽大意的

新自由主义

以及欧洲内部的绿色血统历史悠久,

瑞典在 1990 年代初到中期

就是一个很好的例子,

这让我想到了我的第三个

嗯也是最后一个观点

在英国脱欧后框架呃绿色激进主义,

这就是英国

脱欧政策的本质,必须在地区性的环境中看到

全球背景下的欧洲背景,但

它甚至可能从根本上说是一种

国内现象,

我认为它对环境的影响几乎完全取决于

我们的政治领导人和他们的

胃口,他们的模棱两可

使得我们很难知道将

我们的行动集中在哪里

呃 法律委员会 结论 我

认为这是从 2017 年开始

,欧盟

是我们大多数环境立法

和保护的来源和工具

,从监管

标准到治理结构

再到执法,而来自格兰瑟姆基金会的 alyssa gilbert 和

maria carvalho

LSE 已经

预料到,一旦英国离开欧盟,他们所说的

将是缺乏制裁和

执行环境监管

,现任

政府当然

坚持,否则其

2020 年 1 月的最新更新

再次隐蔽地减缓

了对此的回应速度

呃声称英国政府和

德 参与的

政府坚定地致力于将碳定价

作为实现我们

的净零碳减排目标的有效工具,

他们认为任何未来的系统都将至少

与欧盟排放交易系统一样雄心勃勃,

并且离开欧盟不会影响

我们的法定 根据英国《

气候变化法案》做出的承诺,毕竟这是

国内

立法,政府还坚持

认为,英国将继续是

包括《巴黎协定》在内的国际气候变化协议的缔约方,并且

其对这些协议的承诺将

一如既往地坚定,不会

受到影响 通过

离开欧盟,但观察到

比我指出的更尖锐、更尖锐和更有经验

在政府的 um 声明中有一些明显的沉默

除了气候变化法案之外,

目前没有任何法律或

政治保障措施 150 条欧盟指令和

1100 条立法

除其他事项外,诸如水质

动物福利排放交易废物

处理

许多欧盟规则

尚未转化为英国法律,

正如我们开始意识到的那样,这是一项

艰巨而复杂的工作,而且它将

以如此之快的速度发生,

以至于 我们将

很难有效地审查

它们政府真的承诺并

承诺

英国将保持其环境

标准并不能保证更不用说提高它们

正是因为我们很快就会被排除

在欧盟排放交易

体系燃料质量指令之外 可再生

能源指令仅举几例

还有待观察

贸易协议的激烈竞争

呃更不用说英国

脱欧

的最终

形式

迈克尔戈夫是一个有用的人在

这里谈论,因为他是

前环境部长

和部长 r 前无交易

准备

部长政府希望我们相信,

在这个提议的环境保护办公室下,我们的标准将提高,无论如何,该

办公室

不会在很长一段

时间内开放,而且 covid 再次推迟了

这一点,但很难做到 认真

相信他,

呃,他一直是

欧盟环境标准

和当前环境的长期批评者,呃,

乔治·尤斯蒂斯部长

在他的投票方式中表明

,在保护食品标准的同时,与特朗普的美国达成自由贸易协议并不容易。

对保护标准的兴趣我只是认为目前还没有

最后一件事,然后我就完成了,然后我们

可以继续进行质量检查,如果您真的

在寻找可以

坚持的东西我

想知道 更多,我想

在政府的网站上跟踪这一点

,在媒体上,有各种

媒体报道了当前的

环境

法案 在议会之前,这是一项巨大

的立法,嗯,

这是我们可以谈论的最重要的

立法,

嗯,它的委员会已经暂停,

直到我认为是 9 月,因为 kovid,

但该法案很重要,因为它

旨在有效地取代

指令 ii 嘎嘎作响 早些时候

但仔细检查它并没有这样的

事情,例如新的空气标准,

它确实特别影响了我的借款人

,这是我

真正热衷的事情,

直到 2022 年才会生效,并且

会有很多机会 在此

之前倒退标准

也明显低于欧盟,

因为环境记者

菲奥娜哈维指出,该法案的第 81 条

赋予国务卿

削弱水化学状态目标的权力

,这只是该

法案的一个例子 建设性或相当

破坏性的模棱两可

,我认为活动家的真正挑战

将是跟踪这一点

法案

来解开这种建设性的破坏性

模糊性,

随着时间的推移形成协调一致的反应