Ending the War on Cancer

Transcriber: Jim Wang
Reviewer: David DeRuwe

A cancer center.

Just looking at this building

probably makes everybody
(Whispering) just a little bit nervous.

Now, imagine that you are 37 years old,

a wife to a loving husband
with a smooth on-air radio voice

and two boisterous young boys
that you’ve adopted together,

a job that is not just your job,
but your passion,

and you are standing outside this building
for the very first time.

You’ll have many trips inside
this building over the next six years,

a few surgeries - some big ones
and some smaller ones.

Inpatient admission
is at the hospital up the street.

There were even a few years there
where everything seemed stable

and seemed like it was working.

And then nearly six years
after your diagnosis, it wasn’t anymore.

Now, I don’t have to imagine this
because I know you, and I know your story.

Your name was Tenille.

And how do I know all of this about you?

Because I was your gynecologic oncologist;

I was the cancer doctor
that diagnosed you with stage four cancer.

I operated on you more than once.

I prescribed some treatments
that worked better than expected

for a period of time and others
that just didn’t seem to work at all.

And at age 43, six years after our first
meeting in this building, you died.

And in my mind and in my heart,

Tenille didn’t lose
her battle with cancer.

She didn’t succumb to her disease.

She lived every moment on this earth
as best she could - until she didn’t.

And she impacted
tons of people along the way.

And it’s her memory,

like so many others that I carry with me

that have made me passionate
about wanting to change cancer care

for the better.

Hearing the words “you have cancer”
for the first time

is probably one of the more terrifying
things we’ll experience in our lifetime.

Often, cancer diagnosis is the first time
we are faced with our own mortality,

and the language we use in cancer,
similar to the disease itself,

is complicated and overwhelming.

So as an oncologist, I use metaphors
all the time in my practice

to simplify the complexities
that surround cancer,

making it easier to understand.

And why wouldn’t I?

Studies have shown
that physicians who use metaphors

are viewed by their patients
as the best communicators.

War metaphors have been pervasive

in cancer care since Nixon
declared the war on cancer in 1971.

Maybe you’ve heard the slogan
“Finish the Fight”

or maybe told a loved one,

“Don’t give up. You’re a fighter.
You’re going to beat this.”

after their cancer diagnosis.

War metaphors are supposed to create
a steely mentality in the indivudual

to prepare for battle,

to attack,

to fight,

to win.

Typical emotions you may have
when entering a cancer center

for the first time,

but probably not the only emotions
that you’ll experience.

As an oncologist, I hate
the war metaphors that surround cancer,

and because of this, I’m extremely
conscious of the words that I use,

day in and day out, with my patients.

Our words shape the way
we think and the way we act.

And these war metaphors are affecting
my patients, your loved ones,

and maybe even you yourself in ways
that are often more harmful than helpful.

Because what is cancer, anyway?

Cancer is simply a cell
that forgot how to die.

It made a mistake
along the dividing process,

and it continues to grow
and spread unchecked.

It’s not a foreign invader on enemy soil.

Cancer is just us.

It’s a cell in our own body gone awry.

So when we talk of cancer,

as if it’s something to fight,
as a formidable foe that we can conquer,

what are we actually fighting?

Are we just fighting ourselves?

And cancer’s not just one thing.

Cancer is a billion different mistakes
in a million different places.

The simplistic idea that it can be beaten
or cured by a single silver bullet

is unfortunately
and heartbreakingly untrue.

These war metaphors

create artificial groups
that patients are forced to fit into.

You’re healthy or sick,

strong or weak,

alive or dead.

And this creates additional unnecessary
added stress for the patients

because they’re forced
to feel like they’re one or the other.

And when you’re sick from chemo
and not feeling very well in the moment,

this can create feelings
of failure and shame and self-blame

that often go undiscussed,

as to not create any attention
to your weaknesses.

And all the while,
a fighting, coping style

isn’t actually associated
with an improved survival,

just as telling someone “Just be positive”

may actually be the worst thing
to say in the moment.

Promoting solely
a positive attitude like this

leaves little room
for the full spectrum of emotions,

especially fear,

and shock,

and sadness.

The pervasive guilt

the war analogies
create about not giving up

leads patients down roads of treatment
that are less and less effective

and more and more riddled
with side effects.

And this affects
not just their quantity of life,

but their quality of life as well.

When we are so focused
on fighting and winning,

we make it seem as if death

only comes to those who
simply didn’t try hard enough.

And what about the patients
where cure isn’t an option?

What about those that won’t beat this?

Maybe they were diagnosed
and the cancer had already spread,

or maybe they’ve tried some treatments
that worked and others that didn’t.

If all we talk about is winning the war,

how do I talk to these patients
when they’re losing?

Now, this isn’t an easy
conversation to have.

We need to remember that death
is inevitable for all of us.

Sure, as a surgeon,
I can stave it off for a while

with surgeries and treatments,
but I can’t ultimately stop it.

All of my patients,
at some point, will die.

And so will I.

And this isn’t something most of us
want to even think about,

never might talk about,

but talking about dying doesn’t mean
it’s going to happen right then and there,

just as avoiding it
doesn’t allow us to live forever.

And still, I have to remember everybody

is going to struggle
with different aspects of this.

So I need to ask my patients,

“What are you worried about?”
and “What’s important to you?”

because it’s always different.

My job as an oncologist should be to open
this conversation and then listen.

To truly, really listen.

This is hard and cancer sucks,

but in this moment,
I’m not supposed to fix anything.

I’m supposed to listen

because it’s in these moments,
we talk most about life.

We talk about what’s important.
We talk about our values.

We talk about what we want and what we
need - maybe even what we can’t have.

We talk about hope.

We talk about living life with cancer,
not just fighting with it.

Because it’s in these moments,

my patients share with me
what living life with cancer is all about.

For one, it was important
she be home on her ranch

surrounded by her animals
and her loved ones

with the wide open spaces all around her
and the big blue sky above.

For another, it was her ticket
to her first trip abroad

to the German Christmas markets
with her youngest son.

Or maybe it’s a desire
for something as simple

as just one more cherry lollipop.

Or my dragging the ultrasound

over from labor and delivery

to allow a soon-to-be grandma,

the glimpse of her grandchild
for the very first time,

knowing she wouldn’t be around
to hold him when he was born.

Every one of my patients has had a story,

and as an oncologist, I have been gifted
to share that with them,

but I wouldn’t have had this opportunity
if I didn’t ask them what was important,

and then just listen.

Because embedded in these war analogies

is an impulse to fix the unfixable
and to deny our own mortality.

So what does it look like
when we leave the war out of cancer care?

What if instead, we just spoke plainly
about what was going on,

skipping all the metaphors
of wars and journeys,

talking directly and clearly
about everything involved

and all of the emotions:

the good, the bad, the happy,
the sad, and everything in between?

But most importantly,
what if we just listened?

Because everybody
knows someone with cancer.

Listen to your parent, your loved one,
your neighbor, your friend.

Listen and then try
not to explain it all away.

Validate them - what they say
and what they feel.

Trust yourself enough
to show that you love them.

This is hard, but it’s important

because our job with humans
is to sit with what’s hard,

feel awkward, and then stay.

Right there.

Because I promise
we will all be better for it.

Because some things in life
cannot be fixed.

They can only be carried.

(Applause)

抄写员:Jim Wang
审稿人:David

DeRuwe 癌症中心。

光是看着这座建筑,

恐怕大家
(耳语)都会有点紧张。

现在,想象一下你已经 37 岁

了,一个爱丈夫的妻子
,有着流畅的广播电台声音,

还有两个
你们一起收养的喧闹的小男孩,

这份工作不仅是你的工作,
而且是你的热情

, 你第一次站在这座大楼外面

在接下来的六年里,你将在这座大楼内进行多次旅行,

进行几次手术——一些大手术
和一些小手术。

住院病人
是在街对面的医院。

甚至有几年
,一切似乎都很稳定

,似乎正在发挥作用。

然后
在你确诊将近六年后,它不再是了。

现在,我不必想象这一点,
因为我认识你,而且我知道你的故事。

你的名字是特尼尔。

我怎么知道关于你的这一切?

因为我是你们的妇科肿瘤科医生;

我是癌症医生
,诊断出你患有第四期癌症。

我不止一次给你做过手术。

我开了一些治疗方法
,在一段时间内效果好于预期

,而另一些
似乎根本不起作用。

在我们第一次见面六年后,你 43 岁就
去世了。

在我的脑海里和心里,

Tenille 并没有输掉
与癌症的斗争。

她没有屈服于她的疾病。

她尽她所能在这个地球上的每一刻都过着
——直到她没有。


一路上影响了很多人。

正是她的记忆,

就像我随身携带的许多其他人一样

,让我
热衷于改变癌症

护理。 第一次

听到“你得了癌症”这个

词可能是
我们一生中会经历的更可怕的事情之一。

通常,癌症诊断是我们第一次
面对自己的死亡,

而我们在癌症中使用的语言,
与疾病本身相似,

是复杂而压倒性的。

因此,作为一名肿瘤学家,
我在实践中

一直使用隐喻来简化
围绕癌症的复杂性,

使其更容易理解。

我为什么不呢?

研究
表明,使用隐喻的医生

被患者
视为最好的沟通者。

自尼克松
于 1971 年向癌症宣战以来,战争隐喻在癌症治疗中无处不在。

也许你听过
“完成战斗”的口号,

或者对亲人说

“不要放弃。 你是一个战士。
你会打败这个的。”

在他们的癌症诊断后。

战争隐喻应该在个人中创造
一种钢铁般的心态,

为战斗

、进攻

、战斗

、胜利做准备。 第一次进入癌症中心时

您可能会有的典型情绪

但可能
不是您会经历的唯一情绪。

作为一名肿瘤学家,我讨厌
围绕癌症的战争隐喻,正

因为如此,我非常
清楚我

日复一日地对我的病人使用的词语。

我们的话语塑造了
我们的思维方式和行为方式。

这些战争隐喻正在影响
我的病人,你的亲人,

甚至你自己,其
方式往往弊大于利。

因为到底什么是癌症?

癌症只是一个
忘记了如何死亡的细胞。

它在分裂过程中犯了一个错误

,它继续不受限制地增长
和传播。

它不是敌人领土上的外国入侵者。

癌症只是我们。

这是我们自己身体里的一个细胞出了问题。

因此,当我们谈论癌症时,

仿佛它是一种可以战斗的东西,
作为我们可以征服的强大敌人,

我们实际上在与什么战斗?

我们只是在和自己战斗吗?

癌症不仅仅是一回事。

癌症是一百万个不同地方的十亿个不同的错误

不幸的是,一个简单的想法可以
被一颗银弹打败或治愈,这


不正确的,令人心碎。

这些战争隐喻

创造
了患者被迫融入的人为群体。

你是健康的还是生病的,

强壮的还是虚弱的,

活着的还是死去的。

这给患者带来了额外的不必要的
额外压力,

因为他们
被迫觉得自己是其中之一。

当你因化疗
而生病并且此刻感觉不太好时,

这会产生
失败、羞耻和自责的感觉,这些

感觉通常不会被讨论,

因为你不会
注意到你的弱点。

一直以来
,战斗、应对

方式实际上
与提高生存率无关,

就像告诉某人“保持积极”

实际上可能是当下最糟糕的
事情。

仅仅提倡
像这样的积极态度

几乎没有
给各种情绪留下空间,

尤其是恐惧

、震惊

和悲伤。

战争类比
造成的关于不放弃的普遍内疚

导致患者走上
越来越不有效

且越来越多
的副作用的治疗道路。

这不仅会影响
他们的生活数量,

还会影响他们的生活质量。

当我们如此专注
于战斗和胜利时,

我们就好像死亡

只会降临到那些
根本没有足够努力的人身上。

那些无法治愈的患者呢?

那些打不过这个的呢?

也许他们被
诊断出癌症已经扩散,

或者他们尝试了一些有效的治疗方法
,而另一些无效。

如果我们谈论的只是赢得战争,

那么
当这些病人正在输球时,我该如何与他们交谈?

现在,这不是一个容易的
对话。

我们需要记住,死亡
对我们所有人来说都是不可避免的。

当然,作为一名外科医生,
我可以

通过手术和治疗将它推迟一段时间,
但我最终无法阻止它。

我所有的病人,
在某个时候,都会死去。

我也会。

这不是我们大多数人
都想去想的事情,

也不会谈论,

但谈论死亡并不意味着
它会立即发生,

就像避免它
不允许 我们要永远活着。

而且,我必须记住,每个

人都会在
这方面的不同方面挣扎。

所以我需要问我的病人,

“你在担心什么?”
“什么对你很重要?”

因为它总是不同的。

作为一名肿瘤学家,我的工作应该是开启
这段对话,然后倾听。

真正地,真正地听。

这很难,癌症很糟糕,

但在这一刻,
我不应该解决任何问题。

我应该倾听,

因为在这些时刻,
我们谈论的最多的是生活。

我们谈论什么是重要的。
我们谈论我们的价值观。

我们谈论我们想要什么和
需要什么——甚至可能是我们不能拥有的。

我们谈论希望。

我们谈论与癌症一起生活,
而不仅仅是与它作斗争。

因为正是在这些时刻,

我的患者与我分享
了癌症患者的生活。

一方面,重要的是
她要在她的牧场上安家,

周围是她的动物
和她所爱的人

,她周围有广阔的空地,头顶
是蔚蓝的天空。

另一方面,这是
她第一次带着小儿子出国

去德国圣诞市场的门票

或者,也许是对
简单的东西的渴望,

比如再吃一个樱桃棒棒糖。

或者我把

超声波从分娩和分娩拖

过来,让即将成为祖母的人

第一次看到她的
孙子,

知道
他出生时她不会在身边抱着他。

我的每个病人都有一个故事

,作为一名肿瘤学家,我有幸
与他们分享这个故事,


如果我不问他们什么是重要的,

然后只是倾听,我就没有这个机会。

因为嵌入在这些战争类比中的

是一种修复无法修复的事物
并否认我们自己的死亡的冲动。

那么
当我们将战争排除在癌症治疗之外时会是什么样子呢?

如果相反,我们只是简单地
谈论正在发生的事情,

跳过所有
关于战争和旅程的隐喻,

直接而清晰地
谈论所涉及的一切

和所有情绪

:好的,坏的,快乐的
,悲伤的,以及一切 介于两者之间?

但最重要的是
,如果我们只是倾听呢?

因为每个
人都认识癌症患者。

倾听你的父母、你所爱的人、
你的邻居、你的朋友。

听,然后尽量
不要解释一切。

验证他们——他们所说的话
和他们的感受。

相信自己
足以表明你爱他们。

这很难,但很重要,

因为我们与人类的工作
就是坐在困难的地方,

感到尴尬,然后留下来。

在那里。

因为我保证
我们都会因此变得更好。

因为生活中有些事情
是无法解决的。

它们只能被携带。

(掌声)