Sarah Ellis and Helen Tupper The best career path isnt always a straight line TED

Transcriber:

Helen Tupper: When we met
at university 20 years ago,

we made for unlikely friends.

I’m an extrovert
who gets involved in everything

and talks to anyone,

Sarah Ellis: … and I’m
an introverted ideas person

who finds extroverts energizing
but a bit intimidating.

HT: Despite our differences, we both had
an ambition to climb the ladder

and have a successful career.

SE: We were motivated by how far
and how fast we could progress,

and we thought that our route to the top
would look something a bit like this.

And in those first few years of work,

we were all about
promotions and pay rises.

We were preoccupied by
the positions that we held

and how senior our job titles sounded.

And on the surface, everything
seemed to be on track.

But we started to get the sense

that the ladder might actually
be holding us back.

The obvious next step wasn’t always
the most appealing,

and we were both excited
about exploring opportunities

that weren’t necessarily
based on what we’d done before.

It wasn’t what we’d anticipated,

but our careers had started
to look and feel much more like this.

Squiggly.

HT: A squiggly career
is both full of uncertainty

and full of possibility.

Change is happening all of the time.

Some of it is in our control,

and some of it’s not.

Success isn’t one-size-fits-all.

Our squiggles are as individual as we are.

And for me, that’s meant a career

where I’ve moved from working on
foldable credit cards in one company –

they didn’t catch on –

to building and launching
a loyalty app for another.

And that one is still going.

SE: And I’ve moved from making magazines

to working on food waste,

from a five- to a four-day week

so I could spend more time
on personal projects and volunteering.

I’ve already had more jobs
and worked in more organizations

than my dad,

and he’s been working
for twice as long as I have.

And I’m the rule, not the exception.

HT: When we started to share the idea
of squiggly careers with people,

we were surprised by how much it stuck.

It seemed to give people something

that perhaps they didn’t even know
that they needed,

a way of describing both their experiences
and their aspirations.

Someone even told us
that they took our book,

which has a big squiggle
on the front of it,

into a job interview,

as a way of describing
their career so far.

But we underestimated one big problem:

the legacy of the ladder is all around us.

It’s in the companies that we work in
and the conversations that we have.

It sounds like being asked
in a job interview,

“Where do you see yourself
in five years' time?”

It’s the uncomfortable question
of how we reward and motivate people

who do a great job
but don’t want to be promoted.

And it’s the unfairness
of our learning being unlocked

by the level that we reach
in an organization.

SE: Career ladders were created
as a way to manage and motivate

a whole new generation of workers –

in the early 1900s.

And that world of conformity and control
from over 100 years ago

is unrecognizable today,

especially when we consider

only six percent of people in the UK
now work nine-to-five.

We can all expect to have
five different types of career.

And the World Economic Forum estimates

that 50 percent of the skills
that we have right now

won’t be relevant by 2025.

HT: Ladders are limiting.

They limit learning
and they limit opportunity,

and if organizations
don’t lose the ladder,

they will lose their people,

the people that are always adapting,

that never stop learning

and who are open to
the opportunities that come their way.

2020 disrupted the way
that all of us work,

and none of us know what will happen next.

But one thing we can be confident about

is that the ladder is a redundant
concept of careers.

SE: Losing the ladder
starts with redefining

our relationship with learning at work.

We all now have the chance
to curate our own curriculums,

and we can be really creative
about what that looks like,

whether it’s the TED Talks
that you’re watching,

the books and blogs you’re reading,

the podcasts you’re listening to.

Your learning is personal to you.

And the good news is, your development
is no longer dependent on other people.

HT: Our learning can’t be limited by
the level we reach in an organization

or only available to the fortunate few.

It’s not the responsibility
of a single department,

and it doesn’t just happen
when you go on a course.

No one has a monopoly on wisdom.

In squiggly careers,
everybody is a learner,

and everybody is a teacher.

We’ve been inspired by MVF,

a global technology and marketing company
who’ve introduced a program

called “Connected Learning.”

They blind-match their employees
so that people can learn from each other

without barriers like
what job they do or who they know

getting in the way.

Their CEO, Michael Teixeira, told us,

“Everybody is in charge
of their own learning here.

We all learn from each other
and with each other,

and we’re much better off as a result.”

SE: In squiggly careers, we need to change
our perspective on progression.

The problem with career ladders
is that they only go in one direction,

and you can only take one step at a time.

If progression purely means promotion,

we miss out on so many
of the opportunities

that are all around us.

We need to stop asking only,
“What job comes next?”

and start asking, “What career
possibilities am I curious about?”

HT: Exploring our career possibilities
increases our resilience.

It gives us more options,

and you create more connections.

We see how we can
use our strengths in new ways

and spot the skills that might
be useful for our future.

We can all start exploring
our career possibilities.

It might be an ambitious possibility
that you don’t feel ready for yet.

Or perhaps it’s a pivot
that feels interesting,

but just that bit out of reach.

Or maybe it’s a dream
that you’ve discounted.

The most important thing

is that you give yourself
the permission to explore.

SE: And this is not a one-way street.

We need support from the people
that we work for

and the organizations that we work in.

And we’ve seen
how this can work in practice

at a food manufacturer called Cook.

They have something called
the “Dream Academy.”

And in this academy, their colleagues
can explore any career

that they’re intrigued by,

in or out of the organization,

and even rediscover abandoned ambitions.

It could be to try stand-up comedy,

to write their first children’s book,

to move from marketing to finance,

become the CEO.

Nothing is off the table.

One employee said,

“The Dream Academy
didn’t open doors for me.

It helped me to have the confidence
to open them for myself.”

In career ladders,

our identity can become
about the titles that we’ve held,

rather than the talents that we have.

Everyone is talented,

and we can use those talents
in many ways.

We don’t need to constrain our careers.

In the words of my favorite band,
Fleetwood Mac, “You can go your own way.”

HT: One of the things that sticks with me
from my time at Microsoft

is that I’d go into the office,
and I’d see a sign that said,

“Come as you are and do what you love.”

And this was more than just
words on a wall.

As a non-techie
with a podcast on the side,

I certainly brought something different
to the organization.

But my uniqueness was embraced,

and there was no pressure
to fit a perfect mold.

I felt like I could be open about
what I wanted to do

and where I wanted to go,

even if that was different
to everybody else.

In squiggly careers, there is room
for everybody to succeed.

And no two squiggles are the same.

The ladder has been holding us back
for far too long.

But it’s not easy to change something
that’s been around for over 100 years.

What we need now is more
than a radical rethink.

We need a radical redo,

and change comes from action.

SE: Together, we have an ambition
to make careers better for everyone.

And we’ve seen just what’s possible
when people let go of the ladder.

We see people who define their own success
and take control of their careers.

And we see organizations who benefit

from adaptable employees who are curious,
confident and continually learning.

HT: We want to ask you to become
an advocate for squiggly careers.

You might be a manager
who could help somebody to explore

their career possibilities.

Or maybe you’re a mentor and you
can give someone the confidence

to see how they can
use their talents in new ways.

And now that we’re all teachers,

let’s share what we know
so that everybody can succeed.

SE: It’s finally time for us all
to step off the ladder

and into the squiggle.

抄写员:

Helen Tupper:
20 年前我们在大学相遇时,

我们结交了不太可能的朋友。

我是一个外向的
人,会参与任何事情

并与任何人交谈,

莎拉·埃利斯:……我是
一个内向的想法的

人,发现外向的人充满活力
但有点吓人。

HT:尽管我们存在分歧,但我们都有
攀登阶梯

并拥有成功事业的雄心。

SE:我们的动力来自于
我们能进步多远和多快

,我们认为我们通往顶峰的路线
看起来有点像这样。

在最初几年的工作中,

我们都是为了
升职和加薪。

我们全神贯注于
我们所担任的职位

以及我们的职称听起来有多高级。

从表面上看,一切
似乎都在进行中。

但我们开始

感觉到梯子实际上
可能阻碍了我们。

显而易见的下一步并不
总是最吸引人的

,我们都
对探索

不一定
基于我们以前所做的机会的机会感到兴奋。

这不是我们所期望的,

但我们的职业生涯
开始看起来和感觉更像这样。

波浪形的。

HT:曲折的职业
既充满了不确定性

,也充满了可能性。

变化无时无刻不在发生。

其中一些在我们的控制范围内,

而另一些则不是。

成功不是一刀切的。

我们的曲线和我们一样独特。

对我来说,这意味着我的职业

生涯已经从
在一家公司(他们没有流行起来)开发可折叠信用卡

转变
为为另一家公司开发和推出忠诚度应用程序。

而那个还在继续。

SE:我已经从制作杂志

转向处理食物浪费,

从每周工作五天到四天,

这样我就可以将更多时间
花在个人项目和志愿服务上。

我已经拥有比我父亲更多的工作
和在更多的组织中工作

而且他的工作
时间是我的两倍。

我是规则,而不是例外。

HT:当我们开始
与人们分享曲折职业的想法时,

我们对它的坚持程度感到惊讶。

它似乎给了人们一些

他们甚至不
知道他们需要的东西,

一种描述他们的经历
和他们的愿望的方式。

甚至有人告诉我们
,他们把我们的书

(前面有一个大波浪线)

带进了面试,

作为描述
他们迄今为止职业生涯的一种方式。

但我们低估了一个大问题:

梯子的遗产就在我们身边。

这是在我们工作的公司
和我们进行的对话中。

这听起来像是
在工作面试中被问到,

“五年后你觉得自己
在哪里?”

这是一个令人不安的问题
,我们如何奖励和激励

那些工作出色
但不想升职的人。

我们在组织
中达到的水平释放了我们学习的不公平性

SE:职业阶梯是在 1900 年代初期
作为管理和

激励新一代工人

的一种方式而创建的。 100 多年前

的一致性和控制世界在

今天已经无法辨认,

尤其是当我们考虑

到现在只有 6% 的英国人朝
九晚五工作时。

我们都可以期待有
五种不同类型的职业。

世界经济论坛估计

,到 2025 年
,我们现在拥有的 50% 的技能

将不再适用。

HT:阶梯是有限的。

他们限制了学习
,他们限制了机会

,如果组织
不失去阶梯,

他们就会失去他们的人,

这些人总是在适应

,从不停止学习

,对
即将到来的机会持开放态度。

2020 年扰乱了
我们所有人的工作方式

,我们谁也不知道接下来会发生什么。

但我们可以确信的一件事

是,阶梯是一个多余
的职业概念。

SE:失去阶梯
始于重新定义

我们与工作中学习的关系。

我们现在都有
机会策划我们自己的课程

,我们可以对它的样子非常有创意

无论
是您正在观看的 TED 演讲、

您正在阅读的书籍和博客、

您正在收听的播客 到。

你的学习对你来说是个人的。

好消息是,你的
发展不再依赖于其他人。

HT:我们的学习不能受到
我们在组织中达到的水平的限制,

也不能只提供给幸运的少数人。

这不是
一个部门的责任

,也不会只发生
在你上一门课程的时候。

没有人垄断智慧。

在曲折的职业生涯中,
每个人都是学习者

,每个人都是老师。

我们受到 MVF 的启发,这是

一家全球技术和营销公司
,它推出了一个

名为“互联学习”的计划。

他们对员工进行盲目匹配,
这样人们就可以互相学习,

而不会
遇到他们从事的工作或认识的人等障碍

他们的首席执行官 Michael Teixeira 告诉我们,

“每个人都
负责自己的学习。

我们都互相学习,互相学习,

结果我们会变得更好。”

SE:在曲折的职业生涯中,我们需要改变
对进步的看法。

职业阶梯的问题
在于,它们只会朝着一个方向前进,

而且你一次只能迈出一步。

如果进步纯粹意味着提升,那么

我们就会错过

很多我们身边的机会。

我们需要停止只问
“接下来是什么工作?”

并开始问,“
我对哪些职业可能性感到好奇?”

HT:探索我们的职业可能性会
增加我们的适应力。

它为我们提供了更多选择

,您可以创建更多联系。

我们看到了如何
以新的方式利用我们的优势,

并发现
可能对我们未来有用的技能。

我们都可以开始探索
我们的职业可能性。

这可能是一个雄心勃勃的可能性
,你还没有准备好。

或者也许这是一个
感觉很有趣的支点,

但只是有点遥不可及。

或者,也许这
是你打折的梦想。

最重要的

是你
允许自己去探索。

SE:这不是一条单行道。

我们
需要我们工作的

人和我们工作的组织的支持

。我们已经
看到这

在一家名为 Cook 的食品制造商的实践中是如何发挥作用的。

他们有一个
叫做“梦想学院”的东西。

在这所学院中,他们的同事
可以探索

他们感兴趣的任何职业

,无论是在组织内部还是外部,

甚至可以重新发现被放弃的抱负。

可能是尝试单口喜剧

,写他们的第一本儿童读物

,从营销转向金融,

成为首席执行官。

什么都没有。

一位员工说:

“梦想学院
并没有为我打开大门。

它帮助我有信心
为自己打开大门。”

在职业阶梯中,

我们的身份可能
与我们所拥有的头衔有关,

而不是我们拥有的才能。

每个人都是有才华的

,我们可以
在很多方面使用这些才能。

我们不需要限制我们的职业。

用我最喜欢的乐队
Fleetwood Mac 的话来说,“你可以走自己的路。”

HT:
从我在微软的那段时间起,我一直坚持的一件事

是,我走进办公室
,我会看到一个牌子,上面写着:

“来吧,做你喜欢做的事。”

这不仅仅是
墙上的文字。

作为一个有播客的非技术人员

我当然给组织带来了一些不同
的东西。

但是我的独特性被接受了

,没有压力
去适应一个完美的模具。

我觉得我可以对
自己想做的事情

和想去的地方持开放态度,

即使这与
其他人不同。

在曲折的职业生涯中,
每个人都有成功的空间。

没有两个曲线是相同的。

梯子阻碍我们
太久了。

但是要
改变已经存在了 100 多年的东西并不容易。

我们现在需要的
不仅仅是彻底的重新思考。

我们需要彻底重做,

而改变来自行动。

SE:一起,我们有一个雄心壮志
,让每个人的职业生涯都变得更好。

我们已经看到
当人们放开梯子时会发生什么。

我们看到人们定义自己的成功
并掌控自己的职业生涯。

我们看到组织

受益于具有好奇心、
自信和不断学习的适应性强的员工。

HT:我们想请你
成为波浪形职业的倡导者。

你可能是一名经理
,可以帮助某人探索

他们的职业可能性。

或者,也许你是一名导师,你
可以给某人信心

,看看他们如何
以新的方式发挥自己的才能。

现在我们都是老师,

让我们分享我们所知道的,
以便每个人都能成功。

SE:我们终于是
时候走出阶梯

,进入曲线了。