How to make a profit while making a difference Audrey Choi

I believe big institutions

have unique potential to create change,

and I believe that we as individuals

have unique power

to influence the direction
that those institutions take.

Now, these beliefs did not
come naturally to me,

because trusting big institutions,

not really part of my family legacy.

My mother escaped North Korea

when she was 10 years old.

To do so, she had to elude
every big institution in her life:

repressive governments, occupying armies

and even armed border patrols.

Later, when she decided she wanted
to emigrate to the United States,

she had to defy an entire culture

that said the girls would never
be the best and brightest.

Only because her name
happens to sound like a boy’s

was she able to finagle her way
into the government immigration exam

to come to the United States.

Because of her bravery and passion,

I’ve had all the opportunities
that she never did,

and that has made my story so different.

Instead of running away
from big institutions,

I’ve actually run toward them.

I’ve had the chance
over the course of my career

to work for The Wall Street Journal,

the White House

and now one of the largest
financial institutions in the world,

where I lead sustainable investing.

Now, these institutions are like tankers,

and working inside of them,

I’ve come to appreciate
what large wakes they can leave,

and I’ve become convinced

that the institution
of the global capital markets,

the nearly 290 trillion dollars
of stocks and bonds in the world,

that that may be one
of our most powerful forces

for positive social change
at our disposal,

if we ask it to be.

Now, I know some of you are thinking,

global capital markets,
positive social change,

not usually in the same sentence
or even the same paragraph.

I think many people think
of the capital markets

kind of like an ocean.

It’s a vast, impersonal,
uncaring force of nature

that is not affected
by our wishes or desires.

So the best that our
little savings accounts

or retirement accounts can do

is to try to catch some waves
in the good cycles

and hope that we don’t get
inundated in the turbulent ones,

but certainly our decisions on how
to steer our little retirement accounts

don’t affect the tides,

don’t change the shape or size
or direction of the waves.

But why is that?

Because actually,
one third of this ocean of capital

actually belongs to individuals like us,

and most of the rest
of the capital markets

is controlled by the institutions
that get their power and authority

and their capital from us,

as members, participants,
beneficiaries, shareholders or citizens.

So if we are the ultimate owners
of the capital markets,

why aren’t we able
to make our voices heard?

Why can’t we make some waves?

So let me ask you a different question:

did any of you buy fair trade coffee

the last time you were
at a supermarket or at Starbucks?

OK. Do any of you go to the restaurant

and order the sustainably farmed trout

instead of the miso-glazed
Chilean sea bass

that you really wish you could have?

Do any of you drive hybrid cars
or even electric cars?

So why do we do these things?

Right? One electric car doesn’t amount
to much in a fleet of 1.2 billion

combustion engine vehicles.

One fish is just one fish in the sea.

And one cup of coffee

doesn’t amount to a hill of beans
in this crazy world.

But we do these things
because we believe they matter,

that our actions add up,

that our choices might influence others

and collectively,
what an impact we can have.

So, in my bag I have a coffee mug
that I bought a couple of years ago.

It’s a reusable mug.
It has all these things printed on it.

Look at some of the things
that are on it, that it says.

“This one cup can be used
again and again.”

“This one cup may inspire others
to use one too.”

“This one cup helps save the planet.”

I had no idea this plastic cup
was so powerful.

(Laughter)

So why do we think that our choice

of a four dollar shade-grown
fair trade artisanal cup of coffee

in a reusable mug matters,

but what we do with 4,000 dollars
in our investment account

for our IRA doesn’t?

Why can’t we tell the supermarket
and the capital markets

that we care,

that we care about fair labor standards,

that we care about sustainable
production methods

and about healthy communities?

Why aren’t we voting
with our investment dollars,

but we would vote with our lattes?

So I think it has something
to do with the myths,

the fables that we all carry around
in our collective consciousness.

Do you remember the Grimm’s fairy tale
about the magic porridge pot?

If you said to the pot,
“Boil, little pot, boil,”

it would fill up with sweet porridge.

And if you said, “Stop, little pot, stop,”

it would stop.

But if you got the words wrong,
it wouldn’t listen,

and things could go terribly awry.

So I think when it comes to markets,

we have a little bit
of a similar fable in our heads.

We believe that the markets
is this magic pot

that obeys only one command:

make more money.

Only those words said exactly that way

will make the pot fill up with gold.

Add in some extra words
like “protect the environment,”

the spell might not work.

Put in the wrong words
like “promote social justice,”

and you might see your gold coins shrink

or even vanish entirely,
according to this fable.

So we asked people,
what do you really think?

And we actually went out and polled
a thousand individual investors,

and we found something fascinating.

Overwhelmingly,

people wanted to add
those extra words into the formula.

71 percent of people said yes,

they were interested
in sustainable investing,

which we define as taking the best
in class investment process

that you already have traditionally

and adding in the extra
information you get

when you think about the environment
and society and good governance.

71 percent wanted that.

72 percent said that they believe
that companies who did that

would actually do better financially.

So people really do believe
that you can do well by doing good.

But here was the weird thing:

54 percent of the people

still said if they put their money
in those kinds of stocks,

they thought that they
would make less money.

So is it true?

Do you get less sweet porridge
if you invest in shade-grown coffee

instead of drinking it?

Well, you know, the investors
in companies like Burt’s Bees

or Ben & Jerry’s wouldn’t say so.

Right? Both of those started out
as small, socially conscious companies

that ended up becoming
so popular with consumers

that the giants Unilever
and Clorox bought them

for hundreds of millions of dollars

each.

But here’s the important thing.

Those corporations realized

that if they wanted to protect
the value of their investments,

they had to preserve
that socially conscious mission.

If they didn’t keep adding in
those extra words

of environmentally friendly
and socially conscious,

those brands wouldn’t make more money.

But maybe this is just the exception
the proves the rule, right?

The serious companies
that fund our economy

and that fund our retirements
and that really make the world go round,

they need to stick to making more money.

So, Harvard Business School
actually researched this,

and they found something fascinating.

If you had invested a dollar 20 years ago

in a portfolio of companies

that focused narrowly on making more money

quarter by quarter,

that one dollar

would have grown
to 14 dollars and 46 cents.

That’s not bad until you consider

that if instead
you’d invested that same dollar

in a portfolio of companies

that focused on growing their business

and on the most important
environmental and social issues,

that one dollar would have grown

to 28 dollars and 36 cents.

almost twice as much sweet porridge.

Now, let’s be clear, they didn’t make
that outperformance

by giving away money
to seem like a nice corporate citizen.

They did it by focusing on the things
that matter to their business,

like wasting less energy and water

in their manufacturing processes;

like making sure the CEO contracts
had the CEOs incentivized

for the long-term results of the company
and the communities they served,

not just quarterly results;

or building a first class culture

that would have higher employee loyalty,

retention and productivity.

Now, Harvard’s not alone.

Oxford also did a research study
where they examined 120 different studies

looking at the effect
of sustainability and economic results,

and they found
time and time and time again

that the companies that cared
about these kinds of important things

actually had better
operational efficiency,

lower cost of capital

and better performance
in their stock price.

And then there’s Al Gore.

So 20 years ago, when I worked
for Al Gore in the White House,

he was one of the early pioneers
pleading with businesses and governments

to pay attention to the challenges
of climate change.

Post-White House, he opened
an investment firm called Generation,

where he baked environmental
sustainability and other things

right into the core investment process.

And at the time there was
a good bit of skepticism about his views.

Ten years later, his track record
is one more proof point

that sustainable investing done right
can be sound investing.

Far from making less sweet porridge

because he added
sustainability into the mix,

he actually significantly
outperformed the benchmark.

Now, sustainable investing,

the good news is
it doesn’t require a magic spell

and it doesn’t require
some investment secret,

and it’s not just for the elite.

It is not just about private equity
for billionaires.

It’s not just groovy-sounding investments
like clean technology

or microfinance in emerging markets

or artisanal bakeries in Brooklyn.

It’s about stocks and bonds
and Fortune 500 companies.

It’s about mutual funds.

It’s about all the things

we already see in the market today.

So here’s why I’m convinced

that we collectively have the power

to make sustainable investing
the new normal.

First, the proof points
are coming out all the time

that sustainable investing done right,

preserving all the same
good principles of investing,

the traditional sphere, can pay.

It makes sense.

Secondly,

the biggest obstacle standing in our way

may actually just be in our heads.

We just need to let go of that myth

that if you add your values
into your investment thinking,

that you get less sweet porridge.

And once you get rid of the fable,

you can actually start appreciating
those facts we’ve been talking about.

And third, the future is already here.

Sustainable investment today
is a 20 trillion dollar market

and it’s the fastest-growing segment
of the investment industry.

In the United States,
it has grown enormously, as you can see.

It now represents
one out of every six dollars

under professional management
in the United States.

So what are we waiting for?

For me, it goes back to the inspiration
that I received from my mother.

She knew that she wanted a life

where she would have the freedom
to make her own choices

and to have her voice heard
and write her own story.

She was passionate about that goal

and she was clear that she would let
no army, no obstacle,

no big institution stand in her way.

She made it to the States,

and she became a teacher,

an award-winning author

and a mother,

and ended up sending
her daughters to Harvard.

And these days, you can tell
that she is amply comfortable

holding court in the most powerful
institutions in the world.

It seems almost too prophetic

that her name in Korean means

“passionate clarity.”

Passionate clarity:

that’s what I think we need
to drive change.

Passion about the change
we want to see in the world,

and clarity that we are able
to help chart the course.

We have more opportunity today
than ever before

to make choices.

We have more power than ever before
to make our voices heard.

So change your perspective.

Vote with your small change.

Invest in the change
you want to see in the world.

Change the fables

and change the markets.

Thank you.

(Applause)

我相信大型机构

具有创造变革的独特潜力,

而且我相信作为个人的我们

拥有独特的力量

来影响
这些机构所采取的方向。

现在,这些信念
对我来说并不是自然而然的,

因为信任大机构,

并不是我家族遗产的一部分。

我母亲 10 岁时逃离了朝鲜

为此,她必须避开
她生命中的每一个大机构:

专制政府、占领军

,甚至武装边境巡逻队。

后来,当她决定
要移民到美国时,

她不得不反抗整个文化

,这种文化认为女孩永远
不会是最好的和最聪明的。

只是因为她的名字
听起来像男孩的

名字,她才能够
通过政府移民考试

来美国。

由于她的勇敢和热情,

我拥有了她从未有过的所有机会

,这让我的故事如此不同。

实际上
,我没有逃离大型机构,

而是奔向它们。

在我的职业生涯中,我有

机会为华尔街日报

、白宫

以及现在世界上最大的
金融机构之一工作,

在那里我领导可持续投资。

现在,这些机构就像油轮,

在它们里面工作,

我开始体会
到它们能留下多大的尾迹

,我已经

相信,
全球资本市场的机构

,近 290 万亿美元
的股票和 如果我们要求的话

,这可能
是我们可以支配

的积极社会变革的最强大力量之一

现在,我知道你们中的一些人在想,

全球资本市场,
积极的社会变革,

通常不在同一个句子
甚至同一个段落中。

我想很多人
认为资本市场

有点像海洋。

它是一种巨大的、客观的、
冷漠的自然力量,

不受我们的愿望或欲望的影响。

因此,我们的
小储蓄账户

或退休账户所能做的最好的事情

就是尝试
在良好的周期中捕捉一些浪潮,

并希望我们不会
被动荡的浪潮淹没,

但当然是我们关于
如何引导我们的小退休账户的决定

不要影响潮汐,

不要改变波浪的形状、大小
或方向。

但这是为什么呢?

因为实际上,
这片资本海洋的三分之一

实际上属于像我们这样的个人,

而其余
大部分资本

市场则由从我们
那里获得权力和权威的机构控制

作为成员,参与者,
受益者, 股东或公民。

那么,如果我们是资本市场的最终所有者

为什么我们
不能发出我们的声音呢?

为什么我们不能掀起波澜?

所以让我问你一个不同的问题:你们有

没有

人在上次去
超市或星巴克时买过公平贸易咖啡?

行。 你们有谁去

餐厅点了可持续养殖的鳟鱼,

而不是你真正希望拥有的味噌釉面
智利鲈鱼

吗?

你们中有人驾驶混合动力汽车
甚至电动汽车吗?

那么我们为什么要做这些事情呢?

对?
在拥有 12 亿辆内燃机汽车的车队中,一辆电动汽车的数量并不多

一条鱼只是海里的一条鱼。

在这个疯狂的世界里,一杯咖啡并不等于一堆豆子。

但是我们做这些事情
是因为我们相信它们很重要

,我们的行动加起来

,我们的选择可能会影响他人,

以及
我们可以产生的集体影响。

所以,我的包里有
一个几年前买的咖啡杯。

这是一个可重复使用的杯子。
它上面印有所有这些东西。

看看上面的一些东西
,它说。

“这一杯可以反复使用
。”

“这一杯可能会激发其他
人也使用它。”

“这一杯有助于拯救地球。”

没想到这个塑料
杯这么厉害。

(笑声)

那么,为什么我们认为我们在可重复使用的杯子里

选择一杯 4 美元的遮荫种植的
公平贸易手工咖啡

很重要,


我们在

IRA 的投资账户中用 4,000 美元做什么却不重要?

为什么我们不能告诉超市
和资本

市场我们关心

、我们关心公平的劳工标准

、我们关心可持续的
生产方法

和健康的社区?

为什么我们不用
我们的投资美元

投票,但我们会用拿铁投票?

所以我认为
这与神话

有关,我们都
在集体意识中携带的寓言。

你还记得格林童话
里的神奇粥锅吗?

如果你对着锅说:
“煮,小锅,煮开”,

它就会装满甜粥。

如果你说,“停止,小锅,停止,”

它会停止。

但如果你用错了词,
它就不会听

,事情可能会变得非常糟糕。

所以我认为,当谈到市场时,

我们
脑海中会有一些类似的寓言。

我们相信市场

一个只服从一个命令的魔罐:

赚更多的钱。

只有这样说出来的话,

才能让锅里装满金子。

加上一些额外的词,
比如“保护环境”,

这个咒语可能不起作用。 根据这个

寓言,输入
“促进社会正义”之类的错误词

,您可能会看到您的金币缩小

甚至完全消失

所以我们问人们,
你的真实想法是什么?

我们实际上去调查
了一千名个人投资者

,我们发现了一些令人着迷的东西。

绝大多数

人都想将
这些额外的词添加到公式中。

71% 的人说是的,

他们
对可持续投资感兴趣

,我们将其定义为采用

您传统上已有的一流投资流程,

并在

您考虑环境
、社会和良好治理时添加您获得的额外信息。

71% 的人想要那个。

72% 的人表示,
他们相信这样做的公司

实际上会在财务上做得更好。

所以人们真的
相信你可以通过做好事来做好事。

但奇怪的是:

54% 的人

仍然表示,如果他们把钱投
在这类股票上,

他们认为自己
会赚到更少的钱。

这是真的吗?

如果您投资于遮荫种植的咖啡

而不是喝它,您会得到更少的甜粥吗?

嗯,你知道,
像 Burt’s Bees

或 Ben & Jerry’s 这样的公司的投资者不会这么说。

对? 这两家公司最初都是
具有社会意识的小型公司

,最终在
消费者中如此受欢迎,

以至于巨头联合利华
和高乐氏

以数亿美元的价格收购了

它们。

但这是重要的事情。

这些公司意识到

,如果他们想保护
其投资的价值,

就必须保持
具有社会意识的使命。

如果他们不继续添加
那些额外

的环保
和社会意识的话,

这些品牌就不会赚更多的钱。

但也许这只是
证明规则的例外,对吧?

那些为我们的

经济提供资金、为我们的退休提供资金
、真正让世界运转的严肃公司,

他们需要坚持赚更多的钱。

所以,哈佛商学院
实际上对此进行了研究

,他们发现了一些令人着迷的东西。

如果你在 20 年前将 1 美元投资

于一个

专注于按季度赚取更多钱的公司的投资组合

那 1 美元

将增长
到 14 美元和 46 美分。

这还不错,直到您考虑

到如果
您将相同的

美元投资于

专注于发展业务

以及最重要的
环境和社会问题的公司投资组合,

那一美元将增长

到 28 美元和 36 美分。

几乎两倍的甜粥。

现在,让我们明确一点,他们并没有

通过捐钱
来看起来像一个优秀的企业公民来取得如此优异的表现。

他们通过专注于
对他们的业务重要的事情来做到这一点,

比如在制造过程中浪费更少的能源和水

比如确保 CEO 合同
能够激励 CEO

关注公司
和他们所服务社区的长期业绩,

而不仅仅是季度业绩;

或建立

具有更高员工忠诚度、

保留率和生产力的一流文化。

现在,哈佛并不孤单。

牛津大学还进行了一项研究
,他们检查了 120 项不同的研究,

着眼于
可持续性和经济结果的影响

,他们
一次又一次地

发现,
关心这些重要事情的公司

实际上拥有更好的
运营效率和

更低的成本 资本

和更好
的股价表现。

然后是阿尔·戈尔。

所以 20 年前,当我
在白宫为戈尔工作时,

他是早期的先驱之一,
呼吁企业和

政府关注
气候变化的挑战。 入主

白宫后,他开设
了一家名为 Generation 的投资公司,

在那里他将环境
可持续性和其他事情

直接纳入核心投资流程。

当时人们
对他的观点持怀疑态度。

十年后,他的业绩
记录再次

证明了正确的可持续投资
可以是合理的投资。

远非

因为他
在混合物中添加了可持续性而减少了甜粥,

他实际上大大
超过了基准。

现在,可持续投资

,好消息是
它不需要魔法

,也不需要
一些投资秘诀,

而且不只是为精英人士准备的。

这不仅仅是
亿万富翁的私募股权。

这不仅仅是
像清洁技术

或新兴市场的小额信贷

或布鲁克林的手工面包店等听起来很时髦的投资。

它是关于股票和债券
以及财富 500 强公司的。

这是关于共同基金的。

这是关于

我们今天在市场上已经看到的所有东西。

所以这就是为什么我

相信我们共同有

能力让可持续投资
成为新常态。

首先,证据

表明可持续投资是正确的,

保留了所有相同的
良好投资原则,

即传统领域,可以支付。

这说得通。

其次,

阻碍我们前进的最大障碍

实际上可能就在我们的脑海中。

我们只需要放弃这样的神话

,即如果您将自己的价值观添加
到您的投资思维中,

那么您会得到不那么甜的粥。

一旦你摆脱了寓言,

你就可以真正开始欣赏
我们一直在谈论的那些事实。

第三,未来已经到来。

今天的可持续投资
是一个 20 万亿美元的市场

,是投资行业中增长最快的部分

正如你所看到的,在美国,它已经大幅增长。

现在,在美国专业管理下
,它占每 6 美元中的 1 美元

那么我们还在等什么?

对我来说,这可以追溯到
我从母亲那里得到的灵感。

她知道她想要一种生活

,她可以自由
地做出自己的选择

,让她的声音被听到,
并写下她自己的故事。

她对这个目标充满热情

,她很清楚她不会让
任何军队、任何障碍、

任何大机构阻碍她。

她到了美国

,成为了一名教师

、获奖作家

和母亲,

并最终将
她的女儿送到了哈佛。

这些天来,你可以
看出她

在世界上最强大的机构中很舒服。

她的名字在韩语中的意思是

“充满激情的清晰”,这似乎太有预见性了。

充满激情的清晰性:

我认为这就是我们
推动变革所需要的。


我们希望在世界上看到的变化充满热情,

以及我们
能够帮助制定路线的清晰性。

我们今天
比以往任何时候都有更多的

机会做出选择。

我们比以往任何时候都更有
能力让我们的声音被听到。

所以改变你的观点。

用你的小零钱投票。

投资于
你想在世界上看到的改变。

改变寓言

,改变市场。

谢谢你。

(掌声)