Gene editing can now change an entire species forever Jennifer Kahn

So this is a talk about gene drives,

but I’m going to start
by telling you a brief story.

20 years ago, a biologist
named Anthony James

got obsessed with the idea
of making mosquitos

that didn’t transmit malaria.

It was a great idea,
and pretty much a complete failure.

For one thing, it turned out
to be really hard

to make a malaria-resistant mosquito.

James managed it, finally,
just a few years ago,

by adding some genes
that make it impossible

for the malaria parasite
to survive inside the mosquito.

But that just created another problem.

Now that you’ve got
a malaria-resistant mosquito,

how do you get it to replace
all the malaria-carrying mosquitos?

There are a couple options,

but plan A was basically to breed up

a bunch of the new
genetically-engineered mosquitos

release them into the wild

and hope that they pass on their genes.

The problem was that you’d have to release

literally 10 times the number
of native mosquitos to work.

So in a village with 10,000 mosquitos,

you release an extra 100,000.

As you might guess,

this was not a very popular strategy
with the villagers.

(Laughter)

Then, last January,
Anthony James got an email

from a biologist named Ethan Bier.

Bier said that he
and his grad student Valentino Gantz

had stumbled on a tool
that could not only guarantee

that a particular genetic trait
would be inherited,

but that it would spread
incredibly quickly.

If they were right,
it would basically solve the problem

that he and James had been
working on for 20 years.

As a test, they engineered two mosquitos
to carry the anti-malaria gene

and also this new tool, a gene drive,

which I’ll explain in a minute.

Finally, they set it up
so that any mosquitos

that had inherited the anti-malaria gene

wouldn’t have the usual white eyes,
but would instead have red eyes.

That was pretty much just for convenience

so they could tell just at a glance
which was which.

So they took their two
anti-malarial, red-eyed mosquitos

and put them in a box
with 30 ordinary white-eyed ones,

and let them breed.

In two generations, those had produced
3,800 grandchildren.

That is not the surprising part.

This is the surprising part:

given that you started
with just two red-eyed mosquitos

and 30 white-eyed ones,

you expect mostly white-eyed descendants.

Instead, when James opened the box,

all 3,800 mosquitos had red eyes.

When I asked Ethan Bier about this moment,

he became so excited that he was literally
shouting into the phone.

That’s because getting
only red-eyed mosquitos

violates a rule that is the absolute
cornerstone of biology,

Mendelian genetics.

I’ll keep this quick,

but Mendelian genetics
says when a male and a female mate,

their baby inherits half
of its DNA from each parent.

So if our original mosquito was aa
and our new mosquito is aB,

where B is the anti-malarial gene,

the babies should come out
in four permutations:

aa, aB, aa, Ba.

Instead, with the new gene drive,

they all came out aB.

Biologically, that shouldn’t
even be possible.

So what happened?

The first thing that happened

was the arrival of a gene-editing tool
known as CRISPR in 2012.

Many of you have probably
heard about CRISPR,

so I’ll just say briefly that CRISPR
is a tool that allows researchers

to edit genes very precisely,
easily and quickly.

It does this by harnessing a mechanism
that already existed in bacteria.

Basically, there’s a protein
that acts like a scissors

and cuts the DNA,

and there’s an RNA molecule
that directs the scissors

to any point on the genome you want.

The result is basically
a word processor for genes.

You can take an entire gene
out, put one in,

or even edit just a single
letter within a gene.

And you can do it in nearly any species.

OK, remember how I said that gene drives
originally had two problems?

The first was that it was hard
to engineer a mosquito

to be malaria-resistant.

That’s basically gone now,
thanks to CRISPR.

But the other problem was logistical.

How do you get your trait to spread?

This is where it gets clever.

A couple years ago, a biologist
at Harvard named Kevin Esvelt

wondered what would happen

if you made it so that
CRISPR inserted not only your new gene

but also the machinery
that does the cutting and pasting.

In other words, what if CRISPR
also copied and pasted itself.

You’d end up with a perpetual
motion machine for gene editing.

And that’s exactly what happened.

This CRISPR gene drive that Esvelt created

not only guarantees
that a trait will get passed on,

but if it’s used in the germline cells,

it will automatically copy and paste
your new gene

into both chromosomes
of every single individual.

It’s like a global search and replace,

or in science terms, it makes
a heterozygous trait homozygous.

So, what does this mean?

For one thing, it means we have
a very powerful,

but also somewhat alarming new tool.

Up until now, the fact that gene drives
didn’t work very well

was actually kind of a relief.

Normally when we mess around
with an organism’s genes,

we make that thing
less evolutionarily fit.

So biologists can make
all the mutant fruit flies they want

without worrying about it.

If some escape, natural selection
just takes care of them.

What’s remarkable and powerful
and frightening about gene drives

is that that will no longer be true.

Assuming that your trait does not have
a big evolutionary handicap,

like a mosquito that can’t fly,

the CRISPR-based gene drive
will spread the change relentlessly

until it is in every single individual
in the population.

Now, it isn’t easy to make
a gene drive that works that well,

but James and Esvelt think that we can.

The good news is that this opens
the door to some remarkable things.

If you put an anti-malarial gene drive

in just 1 percent of Anopheles mosquitoes,

the species that transmits malaria,

researchers estimate that it would spread
to the entire population in a year.

So in a year, you could virtually
eliminate malaria.

In practice, we’re still a few years out
from being able to do that,

but still, a 1,000 children
a day die of malaria.

In a year, that number
could be almost zero.

The same goes for dengue fever,
chikungunya, yellow fever.

And it gets better.

Say you want to get rid
of an invasive species,

like get Asian carp
out of the Great Lakes.

All you have to do is release a gene drive

that makes the fish produce
only male offspring.

In a few generations,
there’ll be no females left, no more carp.

In theory, this means we could restore
hundreds of native species

that have been pushed to the brink.

OK, that’s the good news,

this is the bad news.

Gene drives are so effective

that even an accidental release
could change an entire species,

and often very quickly.

Anthony James took good precautions.

He bred his mosquitos
in a bio-containment lab

and he also used a species
that’s not native to the US

so that even if some did escape,

they’d just die off, there’d be nothing
for them to mate with.

But it’s also true that if a dozen
Asian carp with the all-male gene drive

accidentally got carried
from the Great Lakes back to Asia,

they could potentially wipe out
the native Asian carp population.

And that’s not so unlikely,
given how connected our world is.

In fact, it’s why we have
an invasive species problem.

And that’s fish.

Things like mosquitos and fruit flies,

there’s literally no way to contain them.

They cross borders
and oceans all the time.

OK, the other piece of bad news

is that a gene drive
might not stay confined

to what we call the target species.

That’s because of gene flow,

which is a fancy way of saying
that neighboring species

sometimes interbreed.

If that happens, it’s possible
a gene drive could cross over,

like Asian carp could infect
some other kind of carp.

That’s not so bad if your drive
just promotes a trait, like eye color.

In fact, there’s a decent
chance that we’ll see

a wave of very weird fruit flies
in the near future.

But it could be a disaster

if your drive is deigned
to eliminate the species entirely.

The last worrisome thing
is that the technology to do this,

to genetically engineer an organism
and include a gene drive,

is something that basically any lab
in the world can do.

An undergraduate can do it.

A talented high schooler
with some equipment can do it.

Now, I’m guessing
that this sounds terrifying.

(Laughter)

Interestingly though,
nearly every scientist I talk to

seemed to think that gene drives were not
actually that frightening or dangerous.

Partly because they believe
that scientists will be

very cautious and responsible
about using them.

(Laughter)

So far, that’s been true.

But gene drives also have
some actual limitations.

So for one thing, they work
only in sexually reproducing species.

So thank goodness, they can’t be used
to engineer viruses or bacteria.

Also, the trait spreads
only with each successive generation.

So changing or eliminating a population

is practical only if that species
has a fast reproductive cycle,

like insects or maybe
small vertebrates like mice or fish.

In elephants or people,
it would take centuries

for a trait to spread
widely enough to matter.

Also, even with CRISPR, it’s not that easy
to engineer a truly devastating trait.

Say you wanted to make a fruit fly

that feeds on ordinary fruit
instead of rotting fruit,

with the aim of sabotaging
American agriculture.

First, you’d have to figure out

which genes control
what the fly wants to eat,

which is already a very long
and complicated project.

Then you’d have to alter those genes
to change the fly’s behavior

to whatever you’d want it to be,

which is an even longer
and more complicated project.

And it might not even work,

because the genes
that control behavior are complex.

So if you’re a terrorist
and have to choose

between starting a grueling
basic research program

that will require years of meticulous
lab work and still might not pan out,

or just blowing stuff up?

You’ll probably choose the later.

This is especially true
because at least in theory,

it should be pretty easy
to build what’s called a reversal drive.

That’s one that basically overwrites
the change made by the first gene drive.

So if you don’t like
the effects of a change,

you can just release a second drive
that will cancel it out,

at least in theory.

OK, so where does this leave us?

We now have the ability
to change entire species at will.

Should we?

Are we gods now?

I’m not sure I’d say that.

But I would say this:

first, some very smart people

are even now debating
how to regulate gene drives.

At the same time,
some other very smart people

are working hard to create safeguards,

like gene drives that self-regulate
or peter out after a few generations.

That’s great.

But this technology still requires
a conversation.

And given the nature of gene drives,

that conversation has to be global.

What if Kenya wants to use a drive
but Tanzania doesn’t?

Who decides whether to release
a gene drive that can fly?

I don’t have the answer to that question.

All we can do going forward, I think,

is talk honestly
about the risks and benefits

and take responsibility for our choices.

By that I mean, not just the choice
to use a gene drive,

but also the choice not to use one.

Humans have a tendency to assume
that the safest option

is to preserve the status quo.

But that’s not always the case.

Gene drives have risks,
and those need to be discussed,

but malaria exists now
and kills 1,000 people a day.

To combat it, we spray pesticides
that do grave damage to other species,

including amphibians and birds.

So when you hear about gene drives
in the coming months,

and trust me, you will
be hearing about them,

remember that.

It can be frightening to act,

but sometimes, not acting is worse.

(Applause)

所以这是一个关于基因驱动的讨论,

但我将
首先告诉你一个简短的故事。

20 年前,一位
名叫安东尼詹姆斯的

生物学家痴迷于
制造

不会传播疟疾的蚊子的想法。

这是一个好主意,但
几乎完全失败了。

一方面,事实证明

,制造抗疟疾的蚊子真的很困难。 就在几年前

,詹姆斯终于做到了,他

添加了一些基因

使疟原虫
无法在蚊子体内生存。

但这又产生了另一个问题。

既然你已经
有了抗疟疾的蚊子,

你如何让它来取代
所有携带疟疾的蚊子?

有几个选择,

但 A 计划基本上是培育出

一群新的
基因工程蚊子,

将它们释放到野外,

并希望它们传递自己的基因。

问题是你必须

释放 10 倍于
本地蚊子的数量才能工作。

所以在一个有 10,000 只蚊子的村庄里,

你释放了额外的 100,000 只。

正如您可能猜到的那样,

这在村民中并不是一个非常受欢迎的
策略。

(笑声)

然后,去年一月,
安东尼詹姆斯收到了一封

来自一位名叫伊桑比尔的生物学家的电子邮件。

Bier 说,他
和他的研究生 Valentino

Gantz 偶然发现了一种工具,该工具
不仅可以

保证特定的遗传特征
会被遗传,

而且会以
惊人的速度传播。

如果他们是对的,
这将基本上

解决他和詹姆斯
已经研究了 20 年的问题。

作为一项测试,他们设计了两只蚊子
来携带抗疟疾基因

以及这种新工具,一种基因驱动

,我稍后会解释。

最后,他们进行了设置,
使任何

遗传了抗疟疾基因

的蚊子都不会有通常的白眼睛,
而是红眼睛。

这几乎只是为了方便,

所以他们一眼就知道
哪个是哪个。

于是他们把他们的两只
抗疟红眼

蚊子放在一个盒子里
,里面装着30只普通的白眼蚊子

,让它们繁殖。

在两代人中,这些人产生了
3,800 名孙子孙女。

这不是令人惊讶的部分。

这是令人惊讶的部分:

鉴于您开始
时只有两只红眼蚊子

和 30 只白眼蚊子,

您预计大多数是白眼蚊子的后代。

相反,当詹姆斯打开盒子时,

所有 3800 只蚊子的眼睛都红了。

当我向 Ethan Bier 询问这一刻时,

他变得非常兴奋,以至于他简直
对着电话大喊大叫。

那是因为
只得到红眼蚊子

违反了
作为生物学绝对基石的规则,即

孟德尔遗传学。

我会保持快速,

但孟德尔遗传学
说,当男性和女性交配时,

他们的孩子从父母双方那里继承了
一半的 DNA。

因此,如果我们原来的蚊子是 aa,
而我们的新蚊子是 aB,

其中 B 是抗疟疾基因,

那么婴儿应该
以四种排列形式出现:

aa、aB、aa、Ba。

相反,有了新的基因驱动,

它们都出现了aB。

从生物学上讲,这
甚至是不可能的。

所以发生了什么事?

发生的第一件事

是 2012 年出现了一种称为 CRISPR 的基因编辑工具
。你们中的

许多人可能
听说过 CRISPR,

所以我简单说一下,CRISPR
是一种允许研究人员

非常精确地编辑基因的工具,
轻松快速。

它通过利用一种
已经存在于细菌中的机制来做到这一点。

基本上,有一种蛋白质
可以像剪刀一样

切割 DNA,

还有一种 RNA 分子
可以将剪刀引导

到你想要的基因组上的任何点。

结果基本上
是一个基因的文字处理器。

您可以取出整个
基因,放入一个基因,

甚至只编辑
基因中的一个字母。

你几乎可以在任何物种中做到这一点。

好吧,还记得我说过基因驱动
最初有两个问题吗?

首先是
很难设计

出具有抗疟疾能力的蚊子。 多亏了 CRISPR

,现在这种情况基本上已经消失了

但另一个问题是后勤问题。

你如何让你的特质传播开来?

这就是它变得聪明的地方。

几年前,
哈佛大学的一位名叫 Kevin Esvelt 的生物学家

想知道,

如果你让
CRISPR 不仅插入你的新基因,而且插入

进行剪切和粘贴的机器,会发生什么。

换句话说,如果 CRISPR
也复制和粘贴自己会怎样。

你最终会得到一
台用于基因编辑的永动机。

这正是发生的事情。

Esvelt 创造的这种 CRISPR 基因驱动器

不仅保证
了一种性状的遗传,

而且如果它用于生殖系细胞,

它会自动将
您的新基因复制并粘贴


每个个体的两条染色体中。

这就像全局搜索和替换,

或者用科学术语来说,它
使杂合性状成为纯合子。

那么这是什么意思?

一方面,这意味着我们拥有
一个非常强大

但也有些令人担忧的新工具。

直到现在,基因驱动
并不能很好地发挥作用这一事实

实际上是一种解脱。

通常,当我们
弄乱一个有机体的基因时,

我们会让那个东西
在进化上变得不那么适合。

因此生物学家可以制作
他们想要的所有突变果蝇,

而不用担心。

如果有些人逃脱了,自然选择
只会照顾他们。

基因驱动的显着、强大
和可怕之处

在于,这将不再是真的。

假设你的特征
没有很大的进化障碍,

就像一只不会飞的蚊子,

那么基于 CRISPR 的基因驱动
将无情地传播这种变化,

直到它在种群中的每个个体
中传播。

现在,要制造
出如此有效的基因驱动器并不容易,

但詹姆斯和埃斯维尔特认为我们可以。

好消息是,这
为一些非凡的事情打开了大门。

如果你

只在 1% 的按蚊(

这种传播疟疾的物种)中植入抗疟疾基因驱动,

研究人员估计它会
在一年内传播到整个人群。

因此,在一年内,您几乎可以
消除疟疾。

实际上,我们
距离实现这一目标还有几年的时间,

但每天仍有 1,000 名
儿童死于疟疾。

一年后,这个数字
可能几乎为零。

登革热、
基孔肯雅热、黄热病也是如此。

它会变得更好。

假设您想
摆脱入侵物种,

例如将亚洲鲤鱼
赶出五大湖。

你所要做的就是释放一种基因驱动

,使鱼
只产生雄性后代。

再过几代,
就没有雌性了,没有鲤鱼了。

从理论上讲,这意味着我们可以恢复
数百种

被推到边缘的本土物种。

好吧,这是好消息,

这是坏消息。

基因驱动非常有效

,即使是意外释放
也可能改变整个物种,

而且通常非常迅速。

安东尼詹姆斯采取了很好的预防措施。


在生物控制实验室培育了蚊子

,他还使用了
一种非美国本土的蚊子,

这样即使有些蚊子逃跑了,

它们也会死掉,
没有什么可以交配的。

但是,如果一
打全雄性基因驱动的亚洲鲤鱼

意外地
从五大湖带回亚洲,

它们可能会消灭
亚洲本土鲤鱼种群,这也是事实。

考虑到我们的世界是多么紧密相连,这并不是那么不可能。

事实上,这就是我们
遇到入侵物种问题的原因。

那就是鱼。

像蚊子和果蝇

这样的东西,实际上没有办法控制它们。

他们
无时无刻不在跨越国界和海洋。

好的,另一个坏消息

是基因驱动
可能不会

局限于我们所说的目标物种。

那是因为基因流动,

这是一种奇特的说法
,即相邻物种

有时会杂交。

如果发生这种情况,
基因驱动可能会跨越,

就像亚洲鲤鱼可以感染
其他种类的鲤鱼一样。

如果您的驱动器
只是促进一种特征,例如眼睛颜色,那还不错。

事实上,我们很有
可能在不久的将来看到

一波非常奇怪的果蝇

但是,

如果您的驱动力
旨在完全消除该物种,那可能是一场灾难。

最后一个令人担忧的事情
是,实现这一目标的技术,

对生物体进行基因工程
并包含基因驱动

,基本上
是世界上任何实验室都可以做到的。

本科生可以。

一个有一些设备的有才华的高中生
可以做到这一点。

现在,我猜
这听起来很可怕。

(笑声)

有趣的是,
几乎所有与我交谈过的科学家

似乎都认为基因驱动实际上并没有
那么可怕或危险。

部分原因是他们
相信科学家在使用它们时会

非常谨慎和负责

(笑声)

到目前为止,这是真的。

但是基因驱动也有
一些实际的局限性。

因此,一方面,它们
仅在有性繁殖物种中起作用。

所以谢天谢地,它们不能被
用来改造病毒或细菌。

此外,该特征
仅在每一代之后传播。

因此,

只有当该物种
具有快速的繁殖周期(

如昆虫或可能
是老鼠或鱼等小型脊椎动物)时,改变或消除种群才是切实可行的。

在大象或人身上
,一个特征需要几个世纪

才能传播
到足以引起重视的程度。

此外,即使使用 CRISPR,
要设计出真正具有破坏性的特征也不是那么容易。

假设你想制造一种

以普通水果
而不是腐烂水果为食的果蝇

,目的是破坏
美国农业。

首先,你必须弄清楚

哪些基因控制
着苍蝇想吃什么,

这已经是一个非常漫长
而复杂的项目。

然后你必须改变这些基因
,将苍蝇的行为

改变成你想要的样子,

这是一个更长
、更复杂的项目。

它甚至可能不起作用,

因为控制行为的基因很复杂。

因此,如果您是恐怖分子,
并且必须

在启动

一项需要多年细致的
实验室工作但仍可能无法成功的艰苦基础研究计划

或只是把东西炸毁之间做出选择?

你可能会选择后者。

尤其如此,
因为至少在理论上,

构建所谓的反转驱动器应该很容易。

这基本上覆盖
了第一个基因驱动所做的改变。

因此,如果您不喜欢
更改的效果,

您只需释放第二个驱动器即可
取消它,

至少在理论上是这样。

好的,那么这会给我们带来什么?

我们现在有能力随意
改变整个物种。

我们应该吗?

我们现在是神了吗?

我不确定我会这么说。

但我想说的是:

首先,一些非常聪明的

人甚至现在还在争论
如何调节基因驱动。

与此同时,
其他一些非常聪明的人

正在努力创造保护措施,

例如自我调节
或几代后逐渐消失的基因驱动。

那太棒了。

但这项技术仍然
需要对话。

鉴于基因驱动的性质,

这种对话必须是全球性的。

如果肯尼亚想使用驱动器,
但坦桑尼亚不这样做怎么办?

谁决定是否释放
可以飞行的基因驱动器?

我没有那个问题的答案。

我认为,我们今后所能做的

就是诚实地
谈论风险和收益

,并对我们的选择负责。

我的意思是,不仅仅是
使用基因驱动

的选择,还有不使用基因驱动的选择。

人类倾向于
认为最安全的选择

是保持现状。

但情况并非总是如此。

基因驱动有风险
,需要讨论,

但疟疾现在存在
,每天有 1000 人死亡。

为了对抗它,我们喷洒的杀虫剂
会对其他物种造成严重损害,

包括两栖动物和鸟类。

所以当你
在接下来的几个月里听说基因驱动时

,相信我,你
会听到的,

记住这一点。

行动可能很可怕,

但有时,不行动会更糟。

(掌声)