How to Become a True Agent of Change

[Music]

what will it take

to finally get out of the nightmare of

white supremacy

and patriarchy we keep having movements

and conversations and

winds to varying degrees but every time

we fix

one of the symptoms of the problem the

problem

transforms and reasserts itself and the

system

never changes and the cycle continues

so as two women who have each spent over

a decade trying to break up the good old

white boys club

in our case in media and entertainment

we keep asking ourselves

what will it take as a society to get

out of the nightmare of white supremacy

and patriarchy

in late 2017 in the wake of me too

when women finally had the world’s

attention i thought i had part of the

answer

i set out to create an organization of

leaders working towards parity in

hollywood

the plan was that we could come together

train our laser beams at the white men

in power

and change the system forever i had

charts and diagrams

illustrating how we could avoid

hierarchy when naomi called me to join i

had learned by then that predominantly

white lit organizations would be hard to

navigate as a black woman

i didn’t want the responsibility of

educating

but i said yes anyway because i was

curious in learning what a community

without a hierarchy could actually look

like

at the first meeting of this new

organization i invited the assembled

leaders to talk about

what our dreams really were for the

future of hollywood

but we were so entrenched in the

obstacles we were facing that we

couldn’t our minds couldn’t actually

imagine anything else

and the problems didn’t stop there in

our organization

formed to dismantle the existing system

we quickly adopted behaviors of our

oppressors and used them against each

other

many of us began fighting for power when

what we had said we wanted no hierarchy

some women were oppressing other women

other women were invested in

protecting the white dudes in power

every conversation seemed to be a battle

over how to achieve intersectionality

and it became clear that we were just

creating yet another

power driven system that was not

equitable for all

so after about a year of this

i call naomi and i say this isn’t

working

and i said i know then we started

talking

and we kept talking for weeks which

turned into months

and eventually nearly two years of

digging discussing

researching we we created more google

docs than i care to talk about in polite

company

asking ourselves what went wrong

why aren’t our outcomes aligning with

our intentions

so what we definitely know is that the

system has institutionalized inequities

and will will continue to unless we

change it

but also what is happening inside of

ourselves that is preventing those of us

who consciously want change

from just coming together rising up and

making that change occur

is it possible that even when we think

what we want is

change that our conditioning is leading

us to participate in upholding the

existing power structures

i’m going to repeat that for you is it

possible

then that even when what we think we

want is change

that our conditioning is leading us to

participate in upholding the existing

power structures

that’s deep after all that digging the

devastating conclusion we arrived at

was yes because we are

all shaped by this society a society

that in millions of subtle

and not so subtle ways trains our brains

from childhood to understand

that the white straight cis able-bodied

man

is the standard and the modes in which

he operates are the norm

which leaves many of us believing that

the closer we twist

ourselves to be just like him and near

him

and the more we separate ourselves from

those who look least like him

the more power safety

money resources visibility

validation that we will have

and so the next question is how does

that

change how do those of us who

consciously want a different world

actually liberate our minds enough to

build it

that’s a big question that’s a huge

question

that we don’t have the answers to i’m

sorry but

after all of this digging and

researching and questioning

we do have some ideas these ideas formed

as sarah and i listen to each other’s

stories

unpacking and understanding everything

that had been programmed into each one

of us

and what we realized was pretty

surprising

that as different as our backgrounds and

experiences have been

for me growing up in bakersfield

california where i was called the n word

at five

and kkk rallies were common growing up

in a liberal

supportive very white community in

colorado where i was

eight years old before i saw a black

person in real life

our journeys through wanting to become

agents of change and trying to break

free of the white supremacist

patriarchal teachings of the culture

actually shared a lot of the same

markers

five markers in fact five stages of

growth that

on our very very different journeys we

have nevertheless

each wrestled through over and over as

we each try to heal ourselves

and decolonize our minds so

if anything we’re saying resonates with

you we’d like to offer those stages

and not because they’re definitive or

contain all of the answers

we are on this journey too but because

maybe as you travel your own journey

trying to unravel and heal all of this

in yourself

that maybe when you arrive at these

stages you’ll be able to say

oh yeah sarah naomi told me this would

happen

and that hopefully we take some of the

terror that has been placed on anything

related to dismantling race and gender

out of it and replace it with a shared

human journey

toward a better future

so let’s get into it growth stage one

accept the full scope of the problem we

assume that if you’re still listening to

this talk you’re probably not one of

those people on twitter that we have to

convince that white supremacy and

patriarchy

exist but just to make sure we’re all on

the same page here

white men are roughly 30 percent of the

us

population now if you get it down to

white straight cis

able-bodied and take into account

non-binary folk who aren’t even

accounted for here it’s it’s less than

that but just for argument’s sake let’s

say 30

that means that the rest of us are 70

of the population and yet when you look

at who controls the resources the

institutions

the most powerful industries indeed so

total has the dominance of the white man

ben

that he has reshaped almost everything

in his own image

just as a starter list we are talking

language

history anthropology religion medicine

science how we see ourselves how we

treat each other

and certainly the narratives we share

and consume

we could go on but in the spirit of

trying to understand and accept the full

scope of the problem

let’s think about it this way imagine

that the white

supremacist patriarchy has wrapped your

head

in hundreds and hundreds of layers of

gauze

okay so that you cannot see anything

else

no light just that white gauze

and every time something happens that

forces you to see the system for what it

is

you’re peeling away a layer whether it’s

an event something that happens to you

a book you read a conversation you’re

peeling away yet another layer of that

gauze

but you can’t stop when you see your

first glimmer of light right that’s not

the full scope of the problem that’s

just like oh my god there’s a problem

if you are interested in truly breaking

free you

have to keep going always peeling

digging

educating yourself deepening your

understanding

keeping in mind that the closer you are

personally to that white male standard

the more proactive you will need to be

in peeling away those layers

because the less likely it is that

experience alone will do it for you

yes the only way out is to keep peeling

away

more and more layers of that gauze

because believe us you don’t want to

spend the rest of your life with gauze

over your eyes

growth stage two face your place

in the system so as we are continually

understanding the scope of the problem

peeling away those layers we must also

look

inward we can’t separate ourselves from

the larger hole

because we are the stuff of which that

system is made

if my goal is to transform the system i

have to ask myself in what ways

am i to participating in upholding the

existing system

i am white and a woman i have been hurt

held back and discriminated against

because of my gender

and also i have benefited from my

whiteness

and i have participated in maintaining

that standard

and i am black and a woman a member of

two of the most marginalized groups in

the world but that doesn’t mean that i

haven’t benefited from the opportunities

not always awarded

to the most marginalized among us

especially black queer and transgendered

women who are

far too often neglected and overlooked

and if we’ve participated in upholding

this system

it’s kind of likely you have to in

microaggressions

and or overt racist and sexist behavior

in believing the myths about scarcity

the fear that somehow there isn’t enough

for all of us

in reacting out of that fear to fight

with each other for position

and power in justifying inhumane

behavior

because hey after all it’s just business

right

in valuing the accumulation of wealth

and status over well-being

in internalized sexism and racism

and colorism giving in to the training

that our voices don’t matter

making ourselves smaller to validate the

lie

that their vision matters more and

turning that self-hatred on each other

because the genius thing of white

supremacy and patriarchy is that it can

exist with or without

the primary beneficiaries being present

now as you look at this you may feel

fears or tensions flare up in your body

the abyss opening up defensiveness

rejection

shame guilt all of those bad feelings

that we work so hard to avoid

but like with any feelings the more you

avoid them the more they grow up inside

you

the more power they gain so turn around

and face them with the same ongoing

rigor with which you tear that gauze

away from your eyes you must also

continually interrogate your own beliefs

values and ideas always

questioning the source where does this

come from

if you truly want something new you have

to be willing to risk

and let go of every facet of the old

values around

money and history culture the stories we

tell ourselves about ourselves

if you truly want something new

you have to be willing to do the work of

becoming your own

human being what we’re asking is hard

and it’s going to bring grief growth

stage 3

grieve and release i grieve

a torturous feeling of having to break

apart and destroy the toxicity that

remained in my mind

about the times i failed to show up for

myself and for my community

about how i bought into lies and

narratives designed to limit and hurt me

i’ve been angry angry at the system yes

but even

angrier at myself the years of my life

that i fell into this trap

growing up wanting straight hair or fair

skin so that i could be accepted or more

desirable to survive

while trying to live up to a standard

that was never my own

there is a grief i spent decades

avoiding

the grief of looking directly at the

fact that every moment of my entire life

has been easier because i am white

i and people who look like me have gone

to unspeakable

lengths to avoid that simple truth

i have wept for that too tears that are

infinitesimal in scale in comparison to

the suffering caused by

our avoidance i have grieved to stop

avoiding

grieve to my own oppression anger and

indignation at the lies i was told as a

child on repeat

that women can do anything reach for the

stars girl power

without ever having anyone explain to me

why those things were necessary to say

in the first place we’re not just

healing our own pain

we are also healing the trauma of

generations

centuries of trauma inflicted by white

supremacy and patriarchy

as octavia butler said in order to rise

from its own ashes

a phoenix first must burn

so burn release let it go

growth stage four heal don’t worry

we’re not going to leave you there on

your knees alongside the grief in order

to heal

our society we must find a way to heal

ourselves how you go about finding that

healing will be deeply personal

i have found healing and meditation i in

kundalini yoga

and reiki in the ugly cries in therapy

in spirituality and creativity in

community

and ritual you’re gonna have to discover

where that healing can happen for you

based on who you are and where you what

you have access to

ensuring access to healing practices for

all is going to be required for our

collective recovery

like with all of this there are no one

and done quick fixes

but the good news is we know human

transformation is possible

if you’ve ever broken a habit or healed

from a trauma of any kind this work is

really not so different from that

work and the exciting part is as you

heal you get to put yourself

back together accepting and integrating

a new

probably messier understanding of

yourself

but this time with the integrity of

truth

and love growth stage five

build a different dream now what we are

definitely not saying is that you must

cease all external action for change

until you go into a cave

fix yourself and come out pure and ready

to do the work

the external systems that

institutionalize oppression are real

and we must be impatient in our demands

for them to change

what we are saying is that you cannot

neglect the internal work and

only focus on the external work yes

because they are connected which means

that as you continue your journey

of accepting the scope of the problem

facing your place in that problem

grieving and healing you’re going to

have to simultaneously continue taking

actions to dismantle the system that

exists

a system that will inevitably push back

it’s going to be messy this is an

ongoing practice and we

are going to oscillate you can’t take it

on all at once

like healing any deep wound you’re going

to have to tend to it

every day and you’re going to get it

wrong sometimes

remember to extend forgiveness to

yourself and hey

have some forgiveness and compassion for

others on their journeys too

we are attempting a mass transformation

of human consciousness

we are never all going to be in the same

stage of that transformation at the same

time

but the other good news is this current

reality

these current systems started somewhere

humans began

them we were taught them which means we

can unlearn them

and we can change our reality in fact

we don’t even need everyone to get there

according to erika chenoweth’s research

you only need about

3.5 percent of a population to activate

and dismantle a system so come view part

of that 3.5 percent

we’re not saying it’s going to be easy

we feel overwhelmed a lot

but from our own process we can honestly

say that it can be joyful

also i’ve had a really good time doing

this work with you

same i’ve learned so much we’ve learned

a lot

and we’ve laughed a lot and looking back

we’ve realized that that organization we

formed back in 2017

may have actually been a success it

forced us into conflict

which forced us into growth and growth

is actually the whole point

in fact it is only through growth that

we will finally wake up from this

nightmare that has always been someone

else’s dream yes

and finally begin to build our own

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最终摆脱

白人至上主义

和父权制的噩梦需要什么我们不断地进行不同程度的运动

、对话和

风吹草动,但每次

我们解决

问题的症状之一时,

问题都会

转变并重新确立自身和

系统

永远不会改变,并且循环继续,

所以两个女人都花

了十多年的时间试图打破

我们在媒体和娱乐领域的好老白人男孩俱乐部,

我们一直在问自己

,作为一个社会要

摆脱困境需要什么 2017 年底白人至上

和父权制

的噩梦也在我身后,

当时女性终于得到了全世界的

关注

可以一起

训练我们的激光束对白人

掌权

并永远改变系统我有

图表

说明我们如何避免

等级制度 内奥米叫我加入我

当时已经了解到,

作为一个黑人女性,以白人为主的组织很难驾驭

我不想承担教育的责任,

但我还是答应了,因为我

很想知道一个

没有等级制度的社区是什么 实际上可能看起来

在这个新组织的第一次会议上,

我邀请到场的

领导人谈论

我们

对好莱坞未来的真正梦想,

但我们是如此根深蒂固地

面临着我们所面临的障碍,以至于

我们无法思考。 实际上

,我们无法想象其他任何事情,而且我们的组织中的问题并没有就此止步,

我们的

组织旨在拆除现有的体系

等级制度

一些女性在压迫其他女性

其他女性则致力于

保护当权的白人

每次谈话似乎都是一场战斗

关于如何实现交叉性

,很明显我们只是在

创建另一个

不公平的动力驱动系统,

所以大约一年后,

我打电话给 naomi,我说这不起作用

,我说我知道那时我们 开始

交谈

,我们持续交谈了数周,

最终变成了数月,最终将近两年的

挖掘讨论

研究我们创建的谷歌

文档比我在礼貌的公司中谈论的要多,

问自己出了什么问题,

为什么我们的结果与

我们的不一致 意图,

所以我们绝对知道的是,该

系统已经将不平等制度化,

并且除非我们改变它,否则它将继续存在,

而且我们内部正在发生的

事情正在阻止我们

这些有意识地想要改变

的人团结起来并

做出改变

是否有可能发生,即使我们认为

我们想要的是

改变,但我们的条件反射导致

我们参与维护

现有的权力结构

我要对你重复一遍

,即使我们认为我们

想要的是改变

,我们的条件反射也会导致我们

参与维护现有的

权力结构

,这在挖掘

毁灭性结论之后很深 我们得出的

结论是肯定的,因为我们都被这个社会塑造了一个社会,这个社会以数百万种微妙

而不是那么微妙的方式从小训练我们的大脑,让我们

明白白人异性恋强者

是他的标准和模式

操作是常态

,这让我们中的许多人相信,

我们越是扭曲

自己,越接近

,越接近他,我们越将自己与

那些看起来最不像他

的人分开,我们将拥有更多的电力安全

资金资源可见性

验证,

并且 所以下一个问题是

将如何改变我们这些

有意识地想要一个不同的世界的人

实际上如何解放我们的思想以

建立 这

是一个很大的问题,这是一个很大的

问题

,很抱歉,我们没有答案,

在所有这些挖掘、

研究和质疑之后,

我们确实有一些想法,这些想法形成

为莎拉,我听着彼此的

故事

拆包 并了解我们

每个人都被编程的一切,

我们意识到的事情非常

令人惊讶

,因为我们的背景和

经历

对我

来说是不同的 我在科罗拉多

州一个自由

支持的白人社区长大,

在我

八岁之前,我

在现实生活中

看到了一个黑人 有很多相同的

标记

五个标记实际上是五个

成长阶段,

在我们非常不同的旅程中,我们

从未有过 ss

每个人都在一遍又一遍地挣扎,因为

我们每个人都试图治愈自己

并让我们的思想去殖民化,所以

如果我们所说的任何事情引起了

你的共鸣,我们愿意提供这些阶段,

而不是因为它们是确定的或

包含我们所有的

答案 也在这段旅程中,但是因为

也许当你在自己的旅程中

试图解开和治愈你自己的所有

这些时,也许当你到达这些

阶段时,你会说

哦,是的,莎拉娜奥米告诉我这会

发生

,那 希望我们能从

与消除种族和性别有关

的任何事情中消除一些恐惧,并用人类共同的

通往更美好未来的旅程取而代之,

所以让我们进入成长阶段一,

接受我们所面临的问题的全部范围

假设如果你还在听

这个演讲,你可能不是

推特上的那些人之一,我们必须

说服白人至上和

父权制

存在,但只是为了确保我们都

在同一个页面上 h 现在

白人大约占美国人口的 30%,

如果你把它归结为

白人直

顺式身体健全,并考虑到这里甚至没有考虑到的

非二元人群

,那就比

这还少,但只是为了争论

假设 30

这意味着我们其他人是人口中的

70 人,但是当您

查看谁控制资源时,这些

机构最强大的行业确实如此

总体上拥有白人本的主导地位,

以至于他几乎重塑

了他的一切 自己的形象

只是作为一个入门列表我们正在谈论

语言

历史人类学宗教医学

科学我们如何看待自己我们如何

对待

彼此当然我们分享和消费的叙述

我们可以继续但本着

试图理解和接受全部

范围的精神 问题

根源让我们这样想 看不到其他任何

东西

没有光 只是那

白纱 每次发生的事情都

迫使你看到系统的本质

你正在剥去一层 无论它是

一个事件 发生在你身上

的事情 一本书 你读了一段对话 你 重新

剥掉另一层

纱布

,但当你看到你的第一道微光时,你就停不下来,

这不是

问题的全部范围,

就像哦,我的上帝,

如果你有兴趣真正

挣脱你,那就有问题了

必须不断地去剥皮

挖掘

教育自己 加深你的

理解 请

记住,你

个人越接近那个白人男性

标准,你就越需要积极主动

地剥去这些层,

因为

单独的经验就越不可能 对你来说

是的,唯一的出路是不断

剥掉越来越多的纱布,

因为相信我们,你不想

用纱布度过

余生 看你的眼睛

成长第二阶段 面对你

在系统中的位置 所以我们不断地

了解问题的范围

剥去那些层 我们也必须

向内看 我们不能将自己

与更大的洞分开

因为我们是其中的东西

如果我的目标是改变系统,那么系统是建立的 我

必须问自己,我以什么方式

参与维护

现有系统

受益于我的

白人身份,我参与了维持这一标准,我是黑人,是世界上

两个最边缘化群体

的女性,但这并不意味着我

没有从并不总是获得的机会中受益

对于我们当中最边缘化的人,

尤其是黑人酷儿和变性

女性,她们

经常被忽视和忽视

,如果我们参与了维护

这个制度,

那就是 很可能你不得不在

微侵略

和/或公开的种族主义和性别歧视行为

中相信关于稀缺的神话

恐惧以某种方式

我们所有人

都不足以出于这种恐惧

而相互争夺地位

和权力来为不人道辩护

行为,

因为嘿毕竟

在内部化的性别歧视和种族主义

和肤色歧视中,重视财富和地位的积累是正确的商业行为

,让我们的声音无关紧要的培训

让自己变得更小,以

验证他们的愿景的谎言 更重要的是,

将自我仇恨转嫁到彼此

身上,因为白人至上和父权制的天才之处在于,无论主要受益人是否在场,它都可以存在

深渊打开防御

拒绝

羞耻所有

那些我们努力避免

但喜欢任何感觉的坏感觉 你

越是避开他们,他们越是在你的内心成长,

他们获得的力量就越多,所以

转身面对他们,

就像你把纱布

从你的眼睛上撕下来一样,你必须

不断地审视自己的信仰

价值观和想法

质疑来源

如果你真的想要新的东西 你

必须愿意冒险

并放弃

围绕

金钱和历史文化的旧价值观的

方方面面

如果你真的想要新的东西,我们会告诉自己关于自己的故事

必须愿意做自己的工作,

成为自己的

人 我们所要求的很困难

,它会带来悲伤 成长

阶段 3

悲伤和释放 我悲伤

一种痛苦的感觉,不得不

分开并摧毁残留在体内的毒性

想起了我未能为

自己和我的社区露面的时候

关于我如何接受

旨在限制和伤害我的谎言和叙述

我一直很生气 系统 是的,

更生我的气 我生命中的岁月

我陷入了这个陷阱

长大后想要直发或白皙的

皮肤,这样我就可以被接受或更

渴望生存,

同时努力达到一个

从来都不是我的标准 自己

有一种悲痛,我花了几十年的时间

避免悲痛,

因为我是白人,所以我一生中的每一刻都变得更轻松

我们的

逃避所造成的痛苦相比,

泪水的规模是微不足道的

对于

星星女孩的力量,

没有任何人向我解释

为什么这些事情是必须首先说

出来的,我们不仅在

治愈我们自己的痛苦,

我们也在治愈 g 的创伤

几个世纪以来,白人

至上主义和父权制

所造成的创伤,正如奥克塔维亚巴特勒所说,为了

从自己的灰烬中复活,

凤凰首先必须燃烧,

所以燃烧释放让它去

成长阶段四治愈别担心,

我们不会把你留在那里

与悲伤并肩跪下

为了治愈

我们的社会 我们必须找到治愈

自己的方法 你如何去发现

治愈将是非常个人化的

我在昆达里尼瑜伽中找到了治愈和冥想

在治疗中的丑陋哭声中找到了灵气

社区

和仪式中的灵性和创造力 你将不得不

根据你是谁以及你在

哪里可以访问什么来发现可以为你

进行治疗的地方 确保

我们的集体康复将需要为所有人提供治疗实践

就像所有这一切一样,没有

人可以快速修复,

但好消息是我们知道,

如果你曾经打破习惯或

从创伤中痊愈,人类的转变是可能的 f任何类型的这项工作

与那项工作并没有太大的不同,

令人兴奋的部分是当你

痊愈时,你可以让自己

重新振作起来,接受并整合

对自己的新的可能更混乱的理解,

但这次是诚实

和爱的成长阶段 五个

现在建立一个不同的梦想 我们

绝对不是说你必须

停止所有外部行动来改变,

直到你进入洞穴

修复自己并出来纯洁并

准备好工作

将压迫制度化的外部系统

是真实的

,我们 必须迫不及待地

要求他们改变

我们所说的是你不能

忽视内部工作而

只关注外部工作是的,

因为它们是相互联系的,这

意味着当你

继续接受所面临问题的范围时

你在悲伤和治愈问题中的位置

你将

不得不同时继续采取

行动来拆除现有的系统

一个不可避免地会推迟

它的系统 它将变得混乱 这是一个

持续的实践,

我们将摇摆不定,你不能

一下子接受它,

就像治愈任何你每天都必须照顾的深层伤口一样

有时你会

弄错

同时发生了这种转变,

但另一个好消息是当前的

现实

这些当前的系统开始于

人类开始的地方

根据 erika chenoweth 的研究,

你只需要大约

3.5% 的人口来激活

和拆除一个系统,所以来看看

这 3.5% 的一部分,

我们并不是说它正在运行 为了简单起见,

我们感到不知所措,

但从我们自己的过程中,我们可以诚实地

说,这可能是快乐的,

我和你一起做这项工作真的很开心,

我学到了很多,我们学到

了很多

, 我们笑了很多,回首往事,

我们意识到我们

在 2017 年成立的那个组织

实际上可能是成功的,它

迫使我们陷入冲突

,迫使我们成长,而

增长实际上是重点

,事实上它只是通过 成长,

我们最终会从

这个一直是

别人梦想的噩梦中醒来,是的

,最终开始建立我们自己的