How the fight to end child marriage in the UK continues

[Music]

i’m

so excited to be here with paisley

mahmoud now

you are part of my tedx london family we

both spoke in 2019

we’ve kept in touch since since our

moment on this

infamous red carpet but for those who

may be unaware

what was the focus of your talk in 2019

well jamie firstly i just want to say

thank you so much for the introduction

i’m so happy to be back here with you

yes it feels like it was so long ago but

it really wasn’t

um so my talk was about some of my

personal experiences regarding

child marriage so i was married at 16

here in the uk

which the law permits and i also shared

my sister story who was also married as

a child

and the devastating experiences that we

both went through

during those years of being married and

the fact that everybody around us our

teachers the police social services

and everybody just really looked the

other way

now i did get out of my marriage however

for my sister it led to quite a tragic

end and she lost her life in a so-called

honor killing because she left her

marriage

i don’t want to give too much away about

my talk so if you haven’t watched it i

would invite you to

watch it and you’ll learn more about

this issue absolutely you can join

nearly

700 000 people who have watched your

talk since

it was taken in december 2019 now i

think what a lot of people don’t get to

see

is the process that goes on behind you

know your talk

all of the talks today it is months and

months of

just hard work and hard craft especially

in your situation where you’re showing

so much of yourself on stage so much of

your sister’s story

but what was that reaction like for you

after all of those months of hard work

what was it like to finally share that

story with the world and have

such a visceral response you know what i

want to tell you

about your first point about the hard

work that it took and

the challenges that we all went through

to actually do our talks i think

for the audience listening as you said

you may not know how much work goes into

it so

it is quite um a challenge but i think

for me it was

a very very special experience and i

have moments of reflection and i

realized the incredible support that the

team gave us which

made us be able to deliver our talks for

me to

try and put into words i think how i

felt after my talk and the reaction

it’s i can only say incredible because

if someone had told me years ago if i

shared my story i would have been shown

the support and compassion

from people that i got i would have

never believed it

i was pleasantly surprised you know from

the beginning coming off that stage

people were asking me what can we do how

can we help and

there was so much you know there was

everyone was so open

to wanting to do something about this

issue so it was it was just incredible

to being received so well

i think i remember when we watched it in

the green room it was just

a complete just silence

and i think you know you’ve spoken about

the work that goes into this but

it’s almost tenfold when you are really

you know

opening your chest up on stage and just

being incredibly vulnerable so i

want to thank you for that and i’m so

glad that people

were just receptive to that because you

know you never know what’s going to

happen but it’s been

incredible to see like i say nearly over

700 000 people watch your talk

and just prior to your talk you started

a petition didn’t you

um which is nearly reaching 200 000

signatures now do you want to just

have a little have a little chin work

about the petition what was the

kind of purpose of the petition why did

you think it was a good time to

pop it into the world well i think one

of the issues with what i’m talking

about child marriage is that

a lot of people don’t actually realize

this is an issue that is happening right

here on our doorstep

and so you know we wanted the public to

get behind this and we wanted the public

to actually

demand action from the government and

again we were pleasantly surprised so

the petition was started with several

ngos who are backing it

alongside the bill which you’ll later

talk to us about

and that petition is calling as i said

for the government to act then make sure

that children are safe

from child marriage we shouldn’t allow

this to happen

and you know we’re really really amazed

at the level of support that we’re

getting from the public

and again the talk really helped boost

that because after that talk

the signatures and to this day are still

coming in and

a lot of people do leave comments saying

that they watch the talk and it moved

them to actually take action to sign the

petition and

you know call on the government to do

something about this absolutely because

i think the reaction

you know the reaction personally for you

is really important and it’s really

great but to have to see that turn into

action

for you it just must be such an

emotional and emotional thing because

it’s

it’s your hard work but also it’s your

you know it’s your life it’s your story

it’s it’s an

issue that is impacting so many people

and all of this support and hard work

has come to fruition

with the minimum age bill being born so

for those who may not know in the uk

bills are read in the house of commons

and then a second reading which in this

case

is potentially slightly postponed but

there is there is always hope there

um tell us about the birth of this bill

tell us kind of despite its delays

despite

you know the conflama that comes with

westminster

why is it what why is it so important

for you what’s its kind of

aim so um the bill was introduced as a

private members bill by

an mp pauline latham and as you said it

went through its first reading second

reading unfortunately is

possibly postponed at the moment the

bill is

so important to me jamie because it

means that girls

like myself or like my sister or any

girl doesn’t have to go through this

and i think this is life changing that’s

one of the things that

for me out of my talk that really

touches me and makes me emotional when

people reach out to me and say that

because they watch the talk or because

they’re now aware of this issue

they’re actually able to either step

into somebody else’s life going down

that route

or themselves actually seek support so

it’s something that is so hard to put

into words because i would have never

known as a result of

sharing you know so much pain and um

difficult experiences and loss that

actually it could help

somebody else’s life and so for me every

single time somebody signs that petition

somebody reaches out somebody

you know supports us via social media or

writes to their mp all of those things

it means that you could help somebody

actually have a future

which is what we should all want for

children absolutely and i think what’s

so

lovely to see from your talk and from

the petition is the very

you know it’s a very clear process of

how

what you have said and by sharing your

story change is happening and i think a

lot of people

with moments like ted and i watching the

talks online we kind of see these

moments in

as a time stamp we see them as something

that has happened and

we don’t necessarily see them move

forward but you have had such a clear

movement through you know progress with

what’s happening

now for the audience watching you’ve got

two very simple actions that can help

but also a message

of hope and support around the build you

want to share those

now yeah thank you jamie um i think

everyone can relate to this and agree

that we are in a time where

everything just feels like bad news

everything feels so dark and so gloomy

but i just want to share with everyone

who’s watching this my little bit of

hope is that

you can actually make a difference and

it takes five seconds to sign a petition

it takes just you know five minutes to

write

an email to your mp to ask them to get

behind this

and this is something that we should

take as urgency so i would ask you

two very straightforward actions watch

my talk

share the petition actually a third one

to add

um contact your mp it’s very easy to

find out who your mp is and

it’s a really really straightforward

thing to do explain

why this is an issue and i think

watching my talk and actually learning

about this issue

you will learn about the devastating

effects that this can have on girls

lives and

you know we’re talking millions there

are millions of girls that are

at risk of this or that are already

victims of child marriage and

i think we can all say that you know

what we’re going through globally the

pandemic

this is only going to heighten this

issue so

i’m really urging anybody who is

watching we don’t need to wait and see

the

you know the effects of covid on this

issue we need to act

now and we need to reach out to decision

makers and take responsibility for

the girls around us the children around

us and do something about this

so that’s my call to action for you guys

who are watching at home

and i would really really appreciate

that absolutely because i think

what’s so in what’s so important and

inspirational here is that

you know you you didn’t have to do this

you know i think that’s really important

with marginalized stories is we often

feel like we have to share them

for people to listen but you have taken

your story and

taken the autonomy behind that decision

to share

that with the world what advice would

you give to people that

want to do this with their story they

want to get into a position where

you know they want to change something

like what one piece of advice would you

give those people

jeremy this is such a good question

because for 10 years

even longer after all of my experiences

i just thought sharing my story who

would want to listen and i remember in

the beginning of my talk i often felt

like this who would want to listen to my

story

so i think for anybody who has us and we

all have stories everybody has a story

for anybody who wants to share with the

world their story

don’t ever think even just for a second

that your story doesn’t matter because

it does matter and

it can change somebody’s life when i

tell you it literally

it brings me to tears when i have people

contacting me from

you know where i was born in kurdistan

from every corner of the world from

pakistan

young girls saying to me that they want

to learn more about this and they want

to engage in these conversations and

you know it just makes you realize that

even for a second when you doubt your

own truth and your own story

just remember your story matters so much

and

yes it’s scary but what isn’t and you

know just think about

actually how far you can get from

sharing or i would have never thought in

a million years that

it can have the impact and i’m so glad

that you know i

went through this experience well you

are a shiny example of that

you know you you are

an example of how that can happen so

again i’m just very happy that you’re

here to share

to share that now finally behind the

public work

behind you know the fight

and like i find this such an interesting

question but like how are you

like how what personal support do you

feel like you have

because it’s really important that you

have that and i

you know i want we want to know that

you’re okay

thank you i’m sure this is something you

can relate to i think the work that we

do

you know it can have um a lot of effects

on your mental and

you know emotional well-being so i i

think in the beginning i felt so much

responsibility to

take everything on and you know always

reply to people and

do everything i can and i do feel

responsible however

i’ve realized the importance and

actually making sure i look after myself

so

i do have incredible support around me

you know i have my life partner my close

friends

i have supporters out there who support

what i’m doing and that means a lot to

me

um so i i do make sure to take care of

myself and

you know as a result of my talk i’ve

actually

taken a huge step into the career that

i’m in now so i work with icro who are

you know doing everything they can to

support girls like me and

i’ve managed to actually take that step

so i’m doing well thank you for asking

you’re more than welcome more than

welcome and i think you’ve always got

the support of your tedx family you’ve

always got us

rallying behind you any given moment it

has been

my absolute pleasure to have you here

thank you so much

to paisymamood now make sure that you

check out

all of the bits and bobs on our social

so you can get behind

the campaign and the bill thank you so

much

you

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很高兴能和佩斯利·马哈茂德一起来到这里

你在 2019 年演讲的重点是什么,

首先我只想说

非常感谢你的介绍,

我很高兴能和你一起回到这里,

是的,感觉就像很久以前,

但真的不是

嗯,所以我的演讲是关于我

在童婚方面的一些个人经历,

所以我

在法律允许的情况下在英国 16 岁结婚,我还分享了

我妹妹的故事,她也是小时候结婚的,

以及我们俩经历的毁灭性经历

在结婚的那些年里,

我们周围的每个人,我们的

老师,警察社会服务机构

和每个人都只是真的看不顺眼,

现在我确实离开了我的婚姻,但是

对于我姐姐来说,这导致了一个相当悲惨的

结局,她输了 她的一生 在所谓的

荣誉谋杀中,因为她离开了她

的婚姻 您可以加入

2019 年 12 月以来

观看您

的演讲的近 700 000 人的行列 是数

的辛勤工作和艰苦的技艺,尤其是

在你的情况下,你

在舞台上展示了如此多的自己,如此多的

你姐姐的故事,

但是

在所有这些月的辛勤工作之后,你的反应是

什么? 我想最终

与世界分享这个故事并得到

如此发自内心的回应你知道我

想告诉你

关于你的第一点关于

它所花费的辛勤工作以及

我们所有人

在实际进行谈话时所经历的挑战我想

为观众李 正如你所说的,

你可能不知道需要做多少工作

,所以

这是一个相当大的挑战,但我认为

对我来说这是

一次非常非常特别的经历,我

有反思的时刻,我

意识到

团队给了我们难以置信的支持 这

使我们能够为

我进行演讲并

尝试用语言表达我想

我演讲后的感受和

反应我只能说令人难以置信,因为

如果几年前有人告诉我如果我

分享我的故事我会 我得到

了人们的支持和同情

,我

永远不会相信,

我很惊喜你从

一开始就知道从舞台上走下来

人们问我我们能做什么我们

能提供什么帮助,

你知道的太多了 是不是

每个人都愿意

为这个问题做点什么,

所以

收到这么好的评价

真是

难以置信 你知道你已经

谈到了这方面的工作,但是

当你真的

知道

在舞台上敞开胸膛

并且非常脆弱时,这几乎是十倍,所以我

要感谢你,我很

高兴人们

只是接受了这一点,因为你

知道你永远不知道会发生什么,

令人难以置信的是,我说近

700 000 人观看了你的演讲,

而就在你的演讲之前,你开始

了请愿,不是吗,

嗯,这几乎是 达到 200 000 个

签名现在你

想稍微有点下巴

关于请愿书的工作吗 请愿书

的目的是什么 为什么

你认为现在是把

它推向世界的好时机 我认为其中

一个 我所说

的童婚问题是

,很多人实际上并没有意识到

这是一个

正在我们家门口发生的问题

,所以你知道我们希望

公众支持这件事,我们希望 公开

给一个 实际上

要求政府采取行动,

我们再次感到惊喜,

所以请愿书是由几个

非政府组织开始的

确保孩子们

免受童婚的伤害,我们不应该允许

这种情况发生

,你知道我们真的很

惊讶我们从公众那里得到的支持水平,

而且这次谈话真的帮助推动了

这一点,因为在那之后

谈论签名,直到今天仍然

有很多人发表评论

说他们观看了谈话,这让

他们真正采取行动签署

请愿书,

你知道绝对呼吁政府

对此做点什么 因为

我认为

你自己知道的反应对你

来说真的很重要而且真的

很棒但是必须看到它变成

你的行动它必须是这样

的 动感和情感的事情,因为

这是您的辛勤工作,但也是

您自己的事情

为那些可能

不知道英国法案的人

而生

尽管

您知道威斯敏斯特附带的conflama,但我们还是有点延迟,

为什么它为什么

对您如此重要,它的目标是什么,

所以该法案是

由国会议员

保罗·莱瑟姆(pauline latham)作为私人成员法案引入的 说它

通过了它的一读二

读不幸的是

可能在此刻推迟该

法案

对我来说如此重要杰米因为这

意味着女孩

喜欢我自己或喜欢我的妹妹或任何

gi rl 不必经历这些

,我认为这是改变生活

的事情

或者因为

他们现在意识到了这个问题,

他们实际上能够

沿着这条路走进别人的生活

或者他们自己实际上寻求支持,

所以这很难

用语言表达,因为我永远不会

知道

分享的结果你知道这么多痛苦和

困难的经历和损失,

实际上它可以帮助

别人的生活,所以对我来说,

每次有人签署请愿书

有人伸出手

你认识的人通过社交媒体支持我们或

写信给他们的国会议员 在这些事情中,

这意味着你可以帮助某人

真正拥有一个未来

,这绝对是我们都应该为

孩子们想要的,我认为

从你的谈话和 p 中看到的东西真是太可爱

了 etition 是

你所知道的,这是一个非常清晰的过程,

你所说的内容以及通过分享你的

故事正在发生变化,我认为

很多人

都有像 ted 和我

这样的时刻在网上观看谈话,我们将这些

时刻

视为 时间戳 我们将它们视为

已经发生的事情,

我们不一定会看到它们

向前发展,但是您已经有了如此清晰的

运动,因为您知道现在正在

发生的事情的进展

让观众观看您有

两个非常简单的动作 可以提供帮助,

但也可以

传达希望和支持的信息,您现在

想分享这些信息

是的,谢谢杰米,嗯,我认为

每个人都可以理解这一点,并

同意我们正处于一个

一切都感觉像是坏消息的时代,

一切都感觉如此黑暗 如此悲观,

但我只想与

所有观看此视频的人分享我的一点

希望是

您实际上可以有所作为

,签署请愿书需要五秒钟,而

您只需要五分钟就知道

你应该给你的议员写一封电子邮件,要求他们

支持这

件事,这是我们

应该紧急处理的事情,所以我会问你

两个非常直接的行动,看

我的谈话

分享请愿书,实际上是第三

个添加,

嗯,联系你的议员 很容易

找出你的议员是谁,

这是一件非常简单的

事情,可以解释

为什么这是一个问题,我认为

观看我的演讲并实际

了解这个问题,

你会了解

这可能对女孩造成的破坏性影响

生活,

你知道我们在谈论数百万

有数百万的女孩

面临这种风险,或者已经

成为童婚的受害者,

我想我们都可以说你

知道我们在全球范围内正在经历什么

大流行

这只是 将加剧这个

问题,所以

我真的敦促任何正在

观看的人我们不需要等待,看看

你知道covid对这个问题的影响,

我们需要立即采取

行动,我们需要做出决定

制造商并对

我们周围的女孩和我们周围的孩子负责,

并为此做点什么,

这是我对在家观看的你们的号召

,我真的非常感激

,因为我认为

什么是如此重要和

鼓舞人心的是

你知道你不必这样做

你知道我认为

边缘化的故事真的很重要我们经常

觉得我们必须分享它们

让人们听但是你已经接受了

你的故事并

采取了背后的自主权 与世界

分享的决定

你会给那些

想用他们的故事做这件事的人什么建议他们

想要进入一个

你知道他们想要改变的位置

比如你

会给这些人什么建议

杰里米 这是一个很好的问题,

因为

在我经历了所有经历之后的 10 年甚至更长的时间里,

我只是想分享我的故事,

谁会想听,我记得

在一开始 在我的演讲中,我经常有这样的感觉

,谁会想听我的

故事,

所以我想对于任何拥有我们的人,我们

都有故事,每个人都有一个故事,

对于任何想与

世界分享他们的故事的

人,从来没有想过 即使只是一秒钟

,你的故事并不重要,因为

它确实很重要,

它可以改变某人的生活,当我

从字面上告诉你

时,当我有人从你那里联系我时,它让我

流泪 来自

巴基斯坦的

年轻女孩的世界一角对我说她们想

更多地了解这件事,她们

想参与这些对话,而

你知道这只会让你意识到,

即使在你怀疑

自己的真相和自己的故事的一秒钟内

记住你的故事很重要

是的,这很可怕,但什么不是,你

知道的,想想

你能从

分享中走多远,否则一百万年后我永远不会想到

它会产生影响,我 很

高兴你知道我

很好地经历

了这段经历 在你背后的

公共工作

背后知道这场斗争

,就像我觉得这是一个非常有趣的

问题,但是你觉得你有

什么样的个人支持,

因为你拥有它真的很重要

,而且

我知道我想要我们想要 知道

你没事,

谢谢,我相信这是你

可以联系到的

事情 一开始我觉得

承担一切的责任很大,你知道,我总是

回复别人,

尽我所能,我确实感到有

责任,但是

我意识到了重要性,

并确保我照顾好自己,

所以

我确实得到了难以置信的支持 阿罗 和我,

你知道我有我的生活伴侣,我的亲密

朋友,

我有支持者支持

我正在做的事情,这对我来说意义重大,

嗯,所以我一定要照顾好

自己,

你知道,因为我的 说话我

实际上

已经在我现在的职业生涯中迈出了一大步,所以我与你知道的 icro 合作,尽其所能

支持像我这样的女孩,

我已经成功地迈出了这一步,

所以我 做得好谢谢你问

你比受欢迎更

受欢迎而且我认为你总是得到

你的 tedx 家人的支持你

总是让我们

在任何时候

都支持你我非常高兴有你 在这里非常

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