Untapped conversations with kids

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i welcome you all

to tedx aston university 2021

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imagine a world where we encourage

children to have a healthy understanding

of and relationship with their own

bodies

rather than treat them like taboos

imagine a world where we taught our

children to exercise empathy to value

not only their emotions but the feelings

perspectives realities and needs of

others

imagine a world where we taught our

children to create boundaries respect

other people’s boundaries and exercise

their right to say no without guilt or

fear

i keep thinking if we taught our

children these things at an earlier age

how different would this world be how

they view themselves their roles in

society and how they treat others

in 1993 i’m about to start high school

and my beloved grandmother hands me a

small pink pouch and she says carol

you’re a big girl now

now listen

you might have an accident while at

school but don’t worry about it use this

it will help you

now despite being a straight a student

student of the year head girl and

everything in between

i had no idea what this accident would

be

nor did i understand how personal items

packed in a pink pouch would save me and

my grandmother didn’t explain

you see i was taught to be a great

straight a student but loving

understanding and celebrating my body

that was never discussed socially or

culturally

and as i transitioned from high school

to university i would find myself in

cuba in a dorm with students from over

40 different

nationalities

and i thought i got along with everyone

except for when i was confronted with

the question so terry carrell if one of

your closest friends came out of the

closet to you

would you accept them

at that time my answer was an emphatic

no are you crazy

because you see i was taught to respect

people regardless of their color creed

race religion abilities even

socioeconomic status but sexual

orientation oh no that was a taboo topic

that was never discussed socially or

culturally

and as i transitioned from university to

the working space i recall awkward

encounters where male colleagues would

wrap their arms around the small of my

back and i would freeze uncomfortable

not knowing what to say or what to do

and afraid to offend them

you see i was taught to be opinionated

and outspoken about many other issues

but when it came to establishing clear

boundaries saying no unapologetically or

saying you are making me uncomfortable

oh no

that was never discussed

socially or culturally

fast forward to decades later i am the

mom of a daughter who i am raising in

jamaica in the caribbean for the world

her name is naimo courtney reed she’s

nine years old and of course she’s

somewhere here in the audience

i realized something i have a choice we

as parents non-parents we have a choice

we can either perpetuate the same cycles

that can potentially harm generations or

we can choose to have healthy holistic

conversations that serve as valuable

insight to empower our children so the

question is

how do we as parents as adults share

self-awareness empathy and autonomy with

our children in such a way that it helps

them to realize their fullest potential

and what does that mean for current and

future generations

for me personally tapping into the

fullest potential of my daughter means

strengthening areas outside of her

academic output her ability to learn a

hard skill or even going to the best

schools

i have to challenge some of my own

social and cultural upbringing to

fortify her self-awareness her ability

to self-lead and to expand her view of

people beyond borders

let’s talk about self-awareness in

particular period talk

culturally there are still societies and

mind included to a certain extent

that subscribes to the notion that

children should be seen but not heard

that they have no business asking

certain questions much less dignified

with certain answers

so we avoid hard but important

conversations conversations that lead to

teachable moments

in a 2018 uk study about period

education cultural taboos and girls

feelings about their bodies and their

periods it was revealed that the stigma

and shame around menstruation affects

many areas across a girl’s life

from mental health to self-esteem to

body image to the very shaping of their

behavior

participants in that study use words

like ashamed and embarrassed to describe

themselves their bodies and their

periods

sounds familiar

i did not want to pass on the cycle of

shame to my daughter so this is us take

a look

so i wanted to ask you why tampons

are called that way

shouldn’t be called

first of all

that’s a very good question

because technically yeah they really

don’t know

that

you seem to know a lot about um

sanitary feminine feminine products do

you use these feminine products

no mommy you use them okay and what do

you what do you know about them what do

you know about tampons versus sanitary

napkins well the napkins

they don’t go in

okay where do they go on you

they go on me so like i if i take off

the adhesive i can just stick it to our

shoulder

well you can but that’s not where it’s

supposed to be that’s not working so

where is it supposed to go okay panty

okay so it’s on the seat of your panties

okay

do they come in different shapes and

sizes

they do but

in this in the packets

they’re all the same sizes but some in

other packets they can be big they can

and some like

why do you think some are big and

somewhere smaller because some people

are bigger

oh so you think it’s because of the size

of the person yeah or is it because of

their flow like

so

tampine versus tampon why didn’t i think

of that

so how do we accomplish this level of

dialogue i started having these kinds of

conversations with naimo since she was

three years old i created safe spaces

from the bathroom to the car she gets to

ask me any and everything with the

promise that i will be open and honest

regardless of how weird the topic might

be

i smile to welcome her curiosity and i

say things like good question to

encourage her to ask even more questions

and when i respond i communicate with

context and i use tone and body language

that signals to her that this

is what a normal healthy conversation

looks like

no judgment

no shame and for some year this might

just be period talk but i have seen how

these conversations have helped to shape

her body positive attitude her boldness

to ask questions about her body and now

the more she understands herself from

the inside out is the more she accepts

herself as a masterpiece not to be

diminished in any way and that

self-confidence is evident in other

areas of her life so imagine if we were

able to harness and nurture this type of

self-confidence and self-awareness in

our boys and our girls at younger ages

what this world could look like who they

could

become now guess which skill has been

identified as the number one skill of

the future the must-have skill of the

future according to google’s chief

innovation evangelist dr frederick fert

this skill has been googled half a

million times in the last six months in

the usa and the uk combined

it’s not creativity it’s not even

critical thinking can you guess what

skill that is

it’s empathy

and it’s on the tongue of educators and

scientists and teachers and everyone why

because of its power to transcend and

transform but what does that even mean

for children it isn’t enough for me to

tell neymar to be empathetic i we have

to teach her and show her through

language and action

language shapes how we view and

sometimes treat people and in turn

shapes their lived experiences

while growing up in jamaica and albino

or albino was called a dundus which

later on i learned meant freak someone

not up to the mark of normality

citizens with disabilities were

collectively called and members

of the hearing impaired and deaf

community were labeled as dumb

in fact anyone with a perceived

difference was usually described with

negative language

but we didn’t see it as negative we

didn’t see it as harmful it was normal

but imagine how they must have felt

you see i had to unlearn that kind of

language and make a conscious effort to

identify to address persons with respect

and dignity regardless of their

differences

and it is this mindfulness through

action that i actively teach my daughter

well let’s be real

teaching her empathetic language is just

the tip of the iceberg

i no need to put it into practice

so i intentionally create these

opportunities where she gets to interact

with different types of communities

especially underrepresented ones and for

her learning empathy could be as simple

as ordering a cup of chai latte

she orders it from her favorite coffee

house where she actively interacts with

deaf baristas

now the deaf can coffee baristas make

the best coffee in the entire world it’s

not up for debate

and to order you have to point at the

menu

write it down or you can practice or

attempt

to sign

well we practice our greetings

and we order our chai latte cold or hot

and we try to learn something new every

single time we go back

they get a kick out of seeing each other

and naimano understands the importance

of body language and eye contact when it

comes to this particular community she

respects their craft and she respects

their form of communication to the point

where she has now requested that we

patronize supermarkets that hire deaf

employees

so now she asks questions like where is

the rest of the community why don’t i

see them in more places and mom why is

it that children in wheelchairs are not

attending my school

she’s now raising the question of

inclusion

this goes to show that we can teach our

children how to make other people feel

valued and to feel seen

we can teach our children how to adjust

to accommodate and facilitate other

people whose needs are different from

ours

it’s prudi gorjakon who is a

psychoanalyst and psychiatrist who

believes in this affirmation or she

affirms that if we are supposed to have

a new generation of inspiring and

transformative leaders then we must

teach them empathy

and finally

autonomy of all my teachable moments in

life this one goes against everything

that i have learned

one day i was in the car with naima and

her friend and her friend says to her

let me your doll to which naima said i’m

using her but i’ll i’ll give it to you

afterwards

naima you have to share you must share

auntie terry tell naima to share

i looked at her and i said well actually

she doesn’t

what

her eyes her mouth popped open

but auntie terry sharing is

caring

i said yeah but let me ask you a couple

of questions does neymar readily share

her dolls with you yeah and out of ten

how many times does naima share her

dolls with you

eight to nine so do you think it’s fair

that she is within her right to choose

not to share her doll at this moment in

time

yeah

she gave me a shaky yes i knew she was

not convinced

so in my attempt to not look like

maleficent i said listen of course

sharing is caring and of course we make

people feel good when we share with them

however

sharing and giving off oneself is not an

automatic entitlement neither is it

mandatory it is a choice that we

exercise with discretion even amongst

fears

we all reserve the right to say no and

to use self-determination without guilt

so i told her that naimah has that right

to say no and as her friend she should

respect that

you see i have taught my daughter that

having to say no or saying no is a

fundamental right and it sits in the

center of creating boundaries consent

and extends to self-care which becomes

more important as we grow as adults

inversely i have taught naima that

consent goes both ways she’s to

understand from early that she won’t

always get what she wants when she wants

it even from her friends and will it

hurt a little and that’s okay

but don’t take it personally because

there no deserves the same amount of

respect as yours

and no saying no doesn’t mean that

you’re a bad person neither does it mean

that you are diminished in any way

boundaries don’t mean that you care or

love less

and a person with character will respect

them

and you know what that applies across

the board from toys to food to time to

your very body

parenting expert avery mccready said it

best that when you allow children to

share in their time it teaches them

three terrific life skills number one it

teaches them assertiveness to create

boundaries

number two it creates true generosity

because now they share because they want

to share not because they are told to

share

and number three it teaches the other

child the other person who is weighting

the importance of impulse control

now listen i want naima to be smart and

intellectual but it is more important to

me that she is empathetic and confident

that she’s socially conscious aware of

differences but cognizant of

commonalities respectful of people’s

choices and willing to take

responsibility for her actions and no i

don’t think she’s too young in fact i

think the younger the better

i am proud of her ability to reason and

her willingness to love but her

development and worldview hers and those

of children rely largely on us the

conversations we have with them and the

examples that we set

we

are the anchors we

are the points of references the parents

the uncles the aunts the cousins the

friends the co-workers the neighbors

ultimately we must lead by example

and yes it takes time to unlearn the

conscious and unconscious biases that we

carry

and yes it requires that we think speak

and act with intention so that children

can model the kind of behavior that will

positively impact their lives and those

around them now and in the future

a confident child who is comfortable in

self and thoughtful respectful of others

is a powerful leader

employer co-worker

partner

fellow human in the making

that’s potential we don’t want to leave

untapped thank you so very much

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thank you so very much

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想象一个我们鼓励

孩子们对自己的身体有健康的

理解和关系

而不是像对待禁忌一样对待他们

的世界想象一个我们教我们自己的身体的世界

孩子们锻炼同理心 不仅要重视

他们的情绪,还要重视感受

观点 他人的现实和需求

想象一个我们教

孩子创造界限的世界

在更早的时候教我们的孩子这些东西

这个世界会有多么不同

他们如何看待自己在

社会中的角色以及他们如何对待

他人 1993 年我即将上高中

,我心爱的祖母递给我一个

粉红色的小袋子,她 卡罗尔说,

你现在是个大女孩了,

现在听着,

你在学校可能会出事,

但别担心,现在用这个

对你有帮助

尽管我是一名直截了当的

学生,但

我不知道这次事故会是什么,

也不知道

装在粉红色袋子里的个人物品如何能救我,

我的祖母没有解释

你看我 被教导要成为一个优秀的

直学生,但热爱

理解和庆祝我

从未在社会或文化上讨论过的身体

,当我从高中过渡

到大学时,我会发现自己在

古巴的宿舍里和来自

40 多个不同

国家的学生在一起

,我 以为我和每个人都相处

得很好,除了当我遇到这个问题时,特里卡瑞尔如果

你最亲密的朋友之一从

壁橱里出来,

你会接受他们

当时我的回答是一个强调

不,你疯了吗,

因为你看到 我被教导要尊重

人,无论他们的肤色、

种族、宗教能力如何,甚至

社会经济地位如何,但

性取向如何,哦,不,这是一个禁忌

话题 从来没有在社会或文化上讨论过它

,当我从大学过渡

到工作空间时,我回忆起尴尬的

遭遇,男同事会

用胳膊搂着我的

后背,我会冻僵不舒服,

不知道该说什么或该做什么,

而且害怕 冒犯他们,

你看我被教导要

对许多其他问题持固执己见和直言不讳,

但是当谈到建立明确的

界限时,毫无歉意地

说不,或者说你让我不舒服

哦,不

,这在社会或文化上从未被讨论过,

快进几十年后,我 我是

我在加勒比海牙买加为全世界抚养的女儿的妈妈

她的名字叫奈莫·考特妮·里德 她今年

9 岁,当然她

在观众席的某个地方

我意识到我有一个选择 我们

作为父母 非父母 我们有一个选择,

我们可以使可能伤害几代人的相同周期永久存在,

或者

我们可以选择拥有健康的整体

对话是

赋予孩子权力的宝贵见解,所以

问题是

,作为成年人的父母,我们如何与孩子分享

自我意识的同理心和自主权,以

帮助

他们发挥最大的潜力

,这对孩子意味着什么?

对我个人而言,现在和未来的几代人要

充分发挥我女儿的潜力,这意味着要

加强她的学术成果之外的领域,

她学习

硬技能的能力,甚至去最好的

学校。

我必须挑战我自己的一些

社会和文化成长经历

加强她的自我意识她的

自我领导能力和超越国界扩展她对

人的看法

让我们谈谈特定时期的自我意识在

文化上谈论仍然

存在一定程度的社会和

思想,它们赞同

儿童应该 被看到但没有听到

,他们没有资格提出

某些问题,更不用说

对某些答案有尊严了,

所以 w e 避免艰难但重要的

对话

2018 年英国一项关于经期

教育文化禁忌和女孩

对自己的身体和

经期的感受的研究中,对话会导致可教的时刻

从健康到自尊到

身体形象到塑造他们的

行为

在那项研究中的参与者使用

羞愧和尴尬等词来描述

自己他们的身体和他们的

时期

听起来很熟悉

我不想将羞耻的循环传递

给我的女儿所以 这是我们

来看看

所以我想问你为什么卫生棉条

被称为这种方式

首先不应该被称为

这是一个很好的问题

因为从技术上讲是的他们真的

不知道

你似乎对嗯卫生很了解

女性女性用品

你用过这些女性用品

吗 没有妈妈 你用过好吗

你对它们了解多少 你知道

什么 哦,卫生棉条和

卫生巾很好,

它们不进去的卫生巾

好吧,它们在你身上去哪里,

它们在我身上,就像我一样,如果我

取下粘合剂,我可以把它粘在我们的

肩膀上,

你可以,但那不是地方

应该是那不起作用

所以它应该去

哪里好吧 有些在

其他数据包中,它们可以很大,它们可以

,有些喜欢

为什么你认为有些大而

有些小,因为有些

人更大

哦,所以你认为这是因为人的

大小,是的,还是因为

他们的流动像

这样

tampine 与 tampon 为什么我没有

想到这一点,

那么我们如何完成这种级别

的对话我从

naimo 三岁起就开始与她进行此类对话

我创造了

从浴室到汽车的安全空间 她会

问我 任何和前夕 承诺

无论话题多么奇怪

我都会坦诚

相待

使用语气和肢体

语言向她发出信号,这

是正常健康的谈话

看起来

没有判断力

没有羞耻,并且在某些年份这可能

只是一段时期的谈话,但我已经看到

这些谈话如何帮助塑造

她的身体积极态度她的大胆

询问关于她身体的问题,现在

从内到外对自己的了解越多,她就越认为

自己是杰作,不会

以任何方式被削弱,而

自信在她生活的其他方面也很明显,

所以想象一下,如果我们

能够利用和培养

我们的男孩和女孩在年轻时的

这种自信和自我意识,这个世界会是什么样子他们可以成为什么样的人

现在猜猜哪个技能已被

确定为未来的第一技能

根据谷歌首席

创新布道师弗雷德里克·费尔特博士的说法,未来的必备技能在过去的六个月里,

这项技能在美国被谷歌搜索了 50

万次

, 英国结合起来,

这不是创造力,甚至不是

批判性思维,你能猜出

它是什么技能吗?它是

教育工作者、

科学家和教师以及每个人的语言,

因为它具有超越和

转变的力量,但这对孩子来说意味着什么?

对我来说,

告诉内马尔要有同理心是不够的,我必须

通过语言和行动来教她并展示给她看

语言塑造了我们如何看待和

有时对待他人,进而

塑造了他们

在牙买加和白化病中长大的生活经历,

或者 白化病被称为dundus,

后来我了解到这意味着怪胎的人

达不到正常人的标准,

残疾公民被

统称为re 迟到,

听力受损和聋人

社区的成员被贴上哑巴的标签

事实上,任何有感知

差异的人通常都被描述为

负面语言,

但我们并不认为它是负面的,我们

不认为它是有害的,这是正常的,

但想象一下 他们一定觉得

你看到我必须忘掉那种

语言,并有意识地努力

识别以尊重

和尊严的方式与人交谈,不管他们的差异如何

,正是这种通过

行动的正念,我积极地教给我的女儿,

让我们成为真正的

教学 她善解人意的语言

只是冰山一角,

我不需要付诸实践,

所以我特意创造了这些

机会,让她可以

与不同类型的社区(

尤其是代表性不足的社区)进行互动,而对于

她来说,学习同理心

就像点一杯一样简单

她从她最喜欢的咖啡

馆点了拿铁咖啡,在那里她与聋人咖啡师积极互动,

现在聋人可以喝咖啡了 咖啡师制作

世界上最好的咖啡

无需争论

,点菜时,您必须指着

菜单

写下来,或者您可以练习或

尝试

签名 我们练习我们的问候

,我们点我们的 chai latte 冷的或热的

每次回去时,我们都会尝试学习新的东西,

他们从见面中得到

乐趣,奈曼诺理解

肢体语言和眼神交流的重要性,当

涉及到这个特定的社区时,她

尊重他们的手艺,她尊重

他们的形式 沟通

到她现在要求我们

光顾雇用聋哑员工的超市,

所以现在她问这样的问题,比如

社区的其他人在哪里,为什么我

不在更多的地方看到他们,妈妈

为什么坐轮椅的孩子 没有

上我的学校

她现在提出了包容性的问题

这表明我们可以教我们的

孩子如何让其他人感到被

重视并感到被看到

我们可以教 我们的孩子如何调整

以适应和帮助其他

需要与我们不同

的人 普鲁迪·戈雅康 (prudi gorjakon) 是一位

精神分析学家和精神病学家,她

相信这一肯定,或者她

肯定如果我们应该

拥有新一代鼓舞人心和

变革性的领导者,那么 我们必须

教他们同理心

,最后

让我在生活中所有可教的时刻都学会自主

这与

我所学到的一切

背道而驰 有一天我和奈玛和

她的朋友在车里,她的朋友对她说,

让我你的娃娃,奈玛说 我正在

使用她,但我会在之后给你

naima 你必须分享 你必须分享

auntie terry 告诉 naima 分享

我看着她,我说好吧其实

不喜欢

她的眼睛 她的嘴巴弹出 开放,

但阿姨特里分享很

关心

我说是的,但让我问你

几个问题,内马尔是否愿意

与你分享她的洋娃娃是的,10

次中奈玛分享她的

洋娃娃有多少次 八点到九点和你在一起

,所以你

认为她有权

在这个时候选择不分享

她的洋娃娃是公平的

就像

恶意我说的,当然,

分享是关怀,当然,

当我们与他们分享时,我们会让人们感觉良好,

但是

分享和放弃自己并不是一种

自动的权利,也不是

强制性的,它是一种选择,

即使在恐惧中我们也要谨慎行事

我们都保留说不的权利

和使用自决而不内疚的权利,

所以我告诉她,奈玛

有权说不,作为她的朋友,她应该

尊重

你看到我教我的女儿

不得不说不或说 不是一项

基本权利,它

位于创造

界限的

中心 从一开始就明白,即使是从她的朋友那里,她也不会

总是得到她想要的东西

,并且会

受到一点伤害,这没关系,

但不要个人认为,因为

没有人值得

像你一样受到尊重

,没有

说不并不意味着你是个坏人

从玩具到食物到时间到

你的身体的董事会

育儿专家艾弗里·麦克格雷迪说得

最好

慷慨

是因为现在他们分享是因为他们

想要分享,而不是因为他们被告知要

分享

,第三,它教会了另一个

孩子另一个正在

权衡冲动控制重要性的人

现在听着,我希望奈玛聪明而有智慧,

但对我来说更重要的

是她有同理心和自信

,她有社会意识,意识到

差异,但认识到

共同点,尊重人们的

选择,愿意

为自己的行为承担责任,我

不 不要认为她太年轻事实上我

认为越年轻

越好 我们设定的

我们

是锚 我们

是参考点

父母 叔叔 阿姨 堂兄弟

朋友 同事 邻居

最终我们必须以身作则

,是的,我们需要时间来

消除我们所携带的有意识和无意识的偏见

是的,它要求我们

有意识地思考说话和行动,这样孩子们

才能模仿那些

会对他们的生活产生积极影响的行为。 ives 和他们

周围的人现在和将来

一个自信的孩子,对自己感到

自在,体贴尊重他人,

是一个强大的领导者

雇主 同事

伙伴

人类同胞 正在

创造潜力 我们不想留下

未开发的机会 谢谢你 非常

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