Beth Ford What farmers need to be modern climatefriendly and profitable TED

Transcriber:

Corey Hajim: Here with me today
is Beth Ford, the CEO of Land O’Lakes,

a farming cooperative that works
across the United States

and in dozens of countries
around the world.

And she’s going to share with us
her vision about how to create

a better future for farmers

that’s both environmentally
and economically sustainable.

Hi, Beth, thank you so much
for being here.

Beth Ford: Thanks for the invitation,
I’m looking forward to the conversation.

CH: Let’s first talk
about the broadband issue.

How big of a problem is this

and how does it affect
the farming community,

both as you said,
as families and as businesses?

BF: So the estimates have been

that 18 million Americans
lack broadband access,

14 million are in rural America.

Now, having said that, the broadband –

I’m trying to remember
what the name of the organization is,

did a study and they actually say

the number is more like 42 million.

And the reason is
the mapping is inaccurate.

So what could happen is,

let’s say you have a 7-Eleven in a town

and that has Wi-Fi or broadband access
because they laid a line.

It would show up on the map

as though that community
largely has broadband

and it does not.

And so it’s a significant issue.

Think about the education
of your children.

I know you have three, I have three.

And many of them
were doing remote schooling.

Well, what’s happening on the farm,

this is legitimately what’s occurring,

is that the teacher from the town

is driving paper homework out to the farms

to give them the homework

so that they can continue to go to school.

And that’s just one example of many.

And so this is a major challenge,
because if we don’t have basic wiring,

I can say we need like a 1930s'
rural electric initiative

where we go across the country

and we make this, this should be a right,

this should be something that is a basic,
like mail delivery and electricity.

This should not be just
for those who have.

And the scale of it is,

the estimate is to be 80
to 100 billion dollars

to close this gap.

But the challenge of that
is that you get the funding

and then how is it implemented?

We all know you can’t just say –

I say, well, I don’t go in
as CEO, go to the board,

say I need 100 million dollars
for this tech platform

and then, “Approved. Here’s the return.”

And then I go in and I throw it
to the business unit heads and I’m like,

“You guys decide
who’s in charge of that,” right?

And there’s a little bit about it,

it becomes a jump ball
between the FCC and the USDA

and then the governors,

and suddenly we don’t have enough

and we’re on the couches
looking for quarters and nickels

to pay the pizza guy

so that we can finish this off,

as though it’s not a priority,
as though it’s not a priority.

As though it’s somebody else’s problem.

And it is all of our problem.

This is a national security issue.

I cannot say it more directly.

So it’s a major issue
because I’m concerned about speed here

in addition to the funding.

And the good news is
this has been bipartisan support.

Whenever I speak, I speak
for the National Governors Association,

the State Department of AG,

I mean, name it.

Name the administration
official, I’ve done it.

This isn’t a bipartisan issue.

It has to be a prioritization issue.

It has to be something that we decide
as a country is a priority.

And it means in every state.

CH: I’ve heard stories about,

“Well, you’ve put Wi-Fi”

or in some of these communities,

they’ve put Wi-Fi on the buses
and then, you know,

kids are sitting outside
the local library or the local McDonald’s

to do their homework.

And it’s just so unfair.

BF: It’s unacceptable.

CH: Unacceptable.
Unacceptable is the right word.

It also affects the businesses, right?

Farming as a business

because there’s so much
technology being used.

BF: Well, there is.

So oftentimes I’m at an event

and they’re talking
about all this cool new tech.

And listen, I just say
we use satellite technology,

we have big data, data and analytics,

John Deere’s tractors are auto-steer.

And I’m like, “Are you using that?”

“No.” “Why?”

“Well, because I lose connection.

And so I can’t I can’t utilize it.”

You know, there’s so many
exciting investments and innovation

occurring in the sector
that will make farmers more efficient,

will be better for climate
and the environment,

I’ll talk a little bit
about that in a minute,

but none of that can be used

if we don’t have the appropriate
technology access,

if we don’t have broadband.

These are data-intensive models

and they require bandwidth to do so

and to utilize them effectively.

So it’s a major issue
so that from a business perspective,

it’s an efficiency,
it’s a sustainable production issue.

And then back to the community,

again, stable operating environment.

You know, I constantly have
my mother in my ear,

like, “You’re only as happy
as your least happy child,” right?

And why is that?

Because, you know,

if you can’t feel confident
your child has the best education,

has access to a doctor,

pretty hard to be focused
on your business.

And farming is a business.

And so we have to recognize
if there’s a number of hospitals,

local hospitals have shut down,

there’s no banking,

no housing.

It doesn’t work to have a stable
operating environment

in these farming communities.

And yes, directly, you cannot use
the new innovation and technology

that hide the data utilization
if you do not have broadband.

CH: So the technology is a challenge,

and as you said, it’s so important
for the business,

and you mentioned climate.

So I’d love to dive into that

because in addition to, sort of,
challenging market dynamics,

you also have climate volatility
and an increasing weather volatility

and technology’s helping to address that.

Can you talk a little bit
about the technology

that’s being used by farmers
to manage that volatility?

BH: Well, first of all,
what you’re helping them do

is make improved decisions
that make their farms more resilient

and that they can make
more sustainable business practices.

So what we’ve started,

we have a business called Truterra,

it’s run by Jason Weller,

who used to run in our CS
under the Obama administration.

And what this business does,
it works in multiple ways.

We work through our local
retailer, the agronomists.

They get insights from
our Truterra insights engine.

It literally is at the farm level,

acre by acre,

where they can understand
what the soil type is,

what the water situation is,
all of those things,

what kind of tractor do you use,

how many passes at the field do you make.

So, we can make improved,

sustainable production decisions.

More recently, probably just last week,
we announced our Trucarbon platform,

which is a systemic way
that we can work with farmers, databased.

This is partnered with
the Soil Health Institute,

with many environmental groups,

to create a carbon credit.

So where the farmer is making a decision
that is improving carbon capture

and at the same time is improving
their own profitability,

and then is able to monetize that.

Our first customer was Microsoft,

and they’re using this for carbon credit.

So why is this so important?

In addition to the fact
that we have validation

and this is an evolving marketplace,

carbon and carbon credits,
carbon offsets,

it’s an unstructured pricing environment.

And I think all the studies would show
that agriculture is a great way

for us to address this issue
using basic photosynthesis.

So if we if we agree that,

then we have to say,
what is that pricing environment?

One of the fundamental things
we started with is the farmer.

In fact, Secretary Vilsack more recently
said in his confirmation hearing,

we’ve got to start with the farmer

and that farmer has to be profitable
when making that decision.

It’s a virtuous circle.

So we want the farmer to take action.

But you can’t just say,
“Everybody put on cover crops.

That’s the best.”

Because then that farmer isn’t profitable,

and then how do we make sure
that we can sustain our food production

and the farm?

So we’re working with this inside engine,

with our agronomic advice,

with soil health and soil testing,

with any number of pieces of data
and process and expertise.

And that’s what differentiates,
I think, our approach,

that it goes right back to the farm level

but leverages technology.

We have a partnership with Microsoft,

their FarmBeats program, their airband.

They’re working with us

on closing this digital divide
in different communities

so we can take advantage
of these opportunities.

And at the same time, as I said,

they were our first customer
for our carbon credits.

And one of the reasons
I’m so focused on this,

not just because this is
an evolving marketplace,

and because climate change
is something we have to address

and we want to address,

and I believe farmers
are part of the solution.

They are a major part
and a major opportunity for solution.

It also is another
revenue source for farmers.

And go back to that statistic I gave you
about the “hobby” farmer,

about the fact that they’re working
off the farm to retain their farms.

And the reality is, there’s going to be
even more disruption

in the coming years in this sector.

It will be in some ways driven

by the electrification
of the transportation sector.

That means biofuel utilization

and a significant portion of the corn crop
goes into biofuels, ethanol.

And if that is no longer needed,

because we’ve gone to electric vehicles
over the next 10 years,

what happens to corn price,
to land values?

And at the same time soybeans,

some of that is used for biodiesel.

So that will be a major disruptor
to row crop farming.

So we’ve got to point farmers,
they’re pretty smart,

to the right levels
of investment they can make

for other sources of potential
revenue for their farms.

And I think that this is a great way
to think about it.

CH: Right, so you feel like

the things that farmers can do
to be more environmentally sustainable

can also help them economically?

BF: Exactly. And it must.

It must.

And that’s why this model that we have,
Truterra Insights Engine,

is iterative almost.

Hey, if I do these three things,
what happens to my profitability?

And it might be tied to a program
that’s available at the state level,

it might be tied to improve variable
rate application of your fertilizer

where you don’t put everything
on at the same time

and then have it seep into the soil.

Instead, you look and you use
your satellite technology and everything

and you say, “Oh, I’m going to
put partial on now,

and maybe I don’t need as much later.”

Every piece, every acre
on a farm is not the same

and doesn’t have the opportunity
to yield as much,

one acre to the next.

And with that then,

where do you make the right investments?

And a model like this helps you understand
where to make those investments.

We also have applied research plots,

answer plots, where we help
with our agronomists

to help improve the planting
decisions a farmer may make.

So there’s any number of variables,

and I say it makes a farm more resilient.

And let’s agree,

we’re going to get into a situation
where the financial markets

and the bankers are going to say,

you need to be making investments
that make your farm more resilient,

given the amount of disruption
we’re seeing already, right?

Climate.

Think of the fires in the west,
the freeze in the south, in Texas,

and we’re going to see these events
over the next number of years.

We have to make the farm more resilient.

That makes it more profitable
for the farmer.

It helps their ability
to make an investment

that we all know is necessary.

CH: But you mentioned
that it can also be a revenue source.

Can you give an example of how, you know,

a climate mitigation technique

also provides revenue for a farmer?

BF: Well, there’s two things.

One, I was just mentioning
more directly, this true carbon,

where you’re generating a carbon credit

because you’re able to prove

the new practices you’re putting in place
is going to reduce that.

You use that proof
for the soil test in advance,

and then a number of years later.

You may use a stabilizer, for instance,

and that would mean that you don’t have
some of your nitrogen you’re putting on

or using, kind of, seep into the soil.

That, in and of itself,

means you have less of investment
you have to make in those products

as you’re putting on fertilizer

or planting different crops.

But then more directly,
that credit that you develop,

because this market is evolving,

can be sold.

So what we’re doing with the Microsoft
partnership here and their purchases,

if you are able to prove
this tonnage reduction,

it’s like 20 dollars a met ton
for carbon credit,

so it’s a more direct line payment
for that in and of itself.

And that’s an evolving marketplace
we’re going to see.

We’re also partnered with Nori,
it’s a platform like eBay,

and they want to be the eBay
of carbon credit trading.

This is very early stage,
but it’s an exciting opportunity

because we know it’s going to take
this kind of innovation, this creation,

this technology to address climate change.

And the farmers can be in a position

where they can be part of the solution.

CH: Thanks for being here, Beth.

BF: You bet.

抄写员:

Corey Hajim:今天和我在一起的
是贝丝福特,她是 Land O’Lakes 的首席执行官,该公司是

一家
在美国

和全球数十个国家开展工作的农业合作社

她将与我们分享
她关于如何

为农民

创造环境
和经济可持续发展的更美好未来的愿景。

嗨,贝丝,非常感谢你
来到这里。

贝丝福特:谢谢你的邀请,
我很期待谈话。

CH:让我们先
谈谈宽带问题。

这是一个多大的问题

,它如何
影响农业社区,

无论是
作为家庭还是企业?

BF:所以估计

有 1800 万美国人
缺乏宽带接入,

1400 万在美国农村。

现在,话虽如此,宽带——

我试图记住
该组织的名称是什么,

做了一项研究,他们实际上说

这个数字更像是 4200 万。

原因
是映射不准确。

所以可能发生的情况是,

假设你在一个城镇有一个 7-11,

并且有 Wi-Fi 或宽带接入,
因为他们铺设了一条线路。

它会显示在地图上

,好像该社区
主要拥有宽带

,而实际上没有。

所以这是一个重要的问题。

想想
你孩子的教育。

我知道你有三个,我有三个。

他们
中的许多人都在进行远程教育。

嗯,农场上正在发生的事情,

这是合法的事情,

是镇上的老师

正在把纸质作业带到农场

,给他们做作业,

这样他们就可以继续上学了。

这只是众多例子之一。

所以这是一个重大挑战,
因为如果我们没有基本的布线,

我可以说我们需要像 1930 年代的
农村电力倡议一样

,我们在全国各地

开展这项工作,这应该是正确的,

这应该是 一些基本的东西,
比如邮递和电力。

这不应该只
适用于那些拥有的人。

它的规模是

,估计是80
到1000亿美元

来弥补这个差距。

但挑战
在于您获得资金

,然后如何实施?

我们都知道你不能只是说——

我说,好吧,我不会
以 CEO 的身份进入董事会,

说我需要 1 亿美元
用于这个技术平台

,然后,“批准。这是回报。 "

然后我进去,把它
扔给业务部门的负责人,我想,

“你们决定
谁负责,”对吗?

有一点关于它,

它变成
了 FCC 和 USDA 之间的跳球

,然后是州长

,突然间我们没有足够的钱

,我们在沙发上
寻找宿舍和五分

钱来付钱给比萨人

所以 我们可以完成这件事,

好像它不是优先事项,
好像它不是优先事项。

好像是别人的问题。

这都是我们的问题。

这是一个国家安全问题。

我不能更直接地说。

所以这是一个主要问题,
因为除了资金之外,我还关心这里的速度

好消息是
这得到了两党的支持。

每当我发言时,我都
代表全国州长协会、

美国国务院发言,

我的意思是,说出它的名字。

说出行政
官员的名字,我已经做到了。

这不是两党的问题。

它必须是一个优先级问题。

这必须是我们
作为一个国家优先考虑的事情。

这意味着在每个州。

CH:我听说过这样的故事,

“嗯,你已经安装了 Wi-Fi”,

或者在其中一些社区,

他们已经在公共汽车上安装了 Wi-Fi
,然后,你知道,

孩子们坐在
当地图书馆外 或当地的

麦当劳做功课。

这太不公平了。

BF:这是不可接受的。

陈:不可接受。
不可接受是正确的词。

它也会影响企业,对吗?

农业作为一项业务,

因为使用了如此多的
技术。

BF:嗯,有。

所以我经常参加一个活动

,他们
谈论所有这些很酷的新技术。

听着,我只是说
我们使用卫星技术,

我们有大数据、数据和分析,

约翰迪尔的拖拉机是自动转向的。

我想,“你在用那个吗?”

“不。” “为什么?”

“嗯,因为我失去了联系

。所以我不能我不能使用它。”

你知道,这个行业发生了许多
令人兴奋的投资和创新,这些投资和创新

将使农民更有效率,

对气候
和环境更有好处,

我稍后会谈
一点,

但这些都不能用

如果我们没有适当的
技术接入,

如果我们没有宽带。

这些是数据密集型模型

,它们需要带宽才能做到这一点

并有效地利用它们。

所以这是一个重大
问题,从商业角度来看,

这是一个效率问题
,是一个可持续生产问题。

再回到社区,

再次稳定运行环境。

你知道吗,我经常让
妈妈在我耳边

说,“你只有
最不快乐的孩子才会快乐”,对吧?

为什么是这样?

因为,你知道,

如果你对
你的孩子接受最好的教育

、看医生没有信心,就

很难专注
于你的事业。

农业是一门生意。

所以我们必须认识到
是否有许多医院,

当地医院已经关闭,

没有银行,

没有住房。

在这些农业社区中拥有稳定的
运营环境

是行不通的。

是的,直接而言,如果您没有宽带,您将无法使用隐藏数据利用率
的新创新和技术

CH:所以技术是一个挑战

,正如你所说,它对企业非常重要

,你提到了气候。

所以我很想深入探讨这个问题,

因为除了
具有挑战性的市场动态之外

,还有气候波动
和日益增加的天气波动,

而技术有助于解决这个问题。

你能谈谈

农民
用来管理这种波动性的技术吗?

BH:嗯,首先,
你帮助他们做的

是做出改进的决策
,使他们的农场更有弹性

,他们可以做出
更可持续的商业实践。

所以我们开始了,

我们有一家名为 Truterra 的公司,

它由 Jason Weller 经营,

他曾在奥巴马政府时期在我们的 CS
部门工作。

而这项业务
的运作方式有多种。

我们通过当地的
零售商农艺师开展工作。

他们从
我们的 Truterra 洞察引擎中获得洞察。

从字面上看,它是在农场一级,

逐英亩地,

在那里他们可以
了解土壤类型是

什么,水的情况是什么,
所有这些,

你用什么样的拖拉机,

你在田里做了多少次 .

因此,我们可以做出改进的、

可持续的生产决策。

最近,可能就在上周,
我们宣布了我们的 Trucarbon 平台,

这是一种系统化的方式
,我们可以与农民合作,数据库化。


与土壤健康研究所

以及许多环保组织合作,

以创建碳信用。

因此,农民做出的决定
是改善碳捕获

,同时提高
自己的盈利能力,

然后能够将其货币化。

我们的第一个客户是微软

,他们将其用于碳信用。

那么为什么这如此重要呢?

除了我们有验证

,这是一个不断发展的市场、

碳和碳信用、
碳补偿之外,

它还是一个非结构化的定价环境。

我认为所有的研究都会表明
,农业

是我们
使用基本光合作用解决这个问题的好方法。

因此,如果我们同意这一点,

那么我们不得不说,
定价环境是什么?

我们开始的基本事物之一
是农民。

事实上,维尔萨克部长
最近在他的确认听证会上说,

我们必须从农民开始

,在做出决定时农民必须是有利可图的

这是一个良性循环。

所以我们希望农民采取行动。

但你不能只说,
“每个人都种上覆盖作物。

那是最好的。”

因为那个农民没有盈利

,那么我们如何
确保我们能够维持我们的粮食生产

和农场?

因此,我们正在使用这个内部引擎

、我们的农艺建议

、土壤健康和土壤测试,

以及任意数量的数据
、流程和专业知识。

我认为,这就是我们方法的不同之处

,它直接回到农场层面,

但利用了技术。

我们与微软、

他们的 FarmBeats 计划、他们的空中乐队建立了合作伙伴关系。

他们正在与我们

合作,缩小
不同社区的数字鸿沟,

以便我们能够
利用这些机会。

同时,正如我所说,

他们
是我们碳信用额度的第一个客户。

我如此关注这一点的原因之一,

不仅仅是因为这是
一个不断发展的市场,

还因为气候变化
是我们必须解决

并且我们想要解决的问题

,我相信农民
是解决方案的一部分。

它们是解决问题的主要部分
和主要机会。


也是农民的另一个收入来源。

回到我给你的
关于“爱好”农民的统计数据,

关于他们
在农场工作以保留他们的农场的事实。

现实情况是,

未来几年该领域将出现更多混乱。

这将在某些方面

受到
运输部门电气化的推动。

这意味着生物燃料的利用

和很大一部分玉米
作物用于生物燃料乙醇。

如果这不再需要,

因为我们
在未来 10 年已经转向电动汽车,

那么玉米价格和土地价值会发生什么变化

同时大豆,

其中一些用于生物柴油。

因此,这将成为
行作物耕作的主要破坏者。

所以我们必须指出农民,
他们非常聪明,

他们可以

为农场的其他潜在收入来源进行适当的投资

我认为这是一个很好的
思考方式。

CH:是的,所以你

觉得农民可以做的更环保的事情也可以在

经济上帮助他们?

BF:没错。 它必须。

它必须。

这就是为什么我们拥有的这个模型,
Truterra Insights Engine,

几乎是迭代的。

嘿,如果我做这三件事,
我的盈利能力会怎样?

它可能与
州一级可用的程序相关联,

它可能与改善
肥料的可变速率施用相关联,在这种情况

下,您不会同时将所有东西都投入

,然后让它渗入土壤。

相反,你看,你使用
你的卫星技术和一切

,你说,“哦,我现在要
放一部分

,也许以后我不需要那么多。” 农场上的

每一块土地,每一英亩
都不一样

,没有
机会产出那么多,

一英亩到下一英亩。

那么,

您在哪里进行正确的投资?

像这样的模型可以帮助您了解
在哪里进行这些投资。

我们也有应用研究地块、

答案地块,我们
帮助我们的

农艺师帮助改进
农民可能做出的种植决策。

所以有任何数量的变量

,我说它使农场更具弹性。

让我们同意,

我们将进入这样一种情况
,金融市场

和银行家会说,鉴于我们已经看到的破坏程度,

你需要进行投资
,使你的农场更具弹性

?

气候。

想想西部的大火,
南部,德克萨斯州的冰冻

,我们将
在接下来的几年里看到这些事件。

我们必须让农场更有弹性。

这使得它对农民来说更有利可图

这有助于他们
进行

我们都知道是必要的投资的能力。

CH:但你
提到它也可以成为收入来源。

你能举个例子,你知道

,气候缓解技术如何

也为农民提供收入吗?

BF:嗯,有两件事。

一,我只是
更直接地提到,这种真正的碳

,你正在产生碳信用,

因为你能够证明

你正在实施的新做法
会减少这种情况。

您提前使用该证明
进行土壤测试,

然后在几年后使用。

例如,你可以使用稳定剂

,这意味着你没有
一些你正在

使用或使用的氮渗入土壤。

就其本身而言,这

意味着

您在投入肥料

或种植不同作物时必须对这些产品进行更少的投资。

但更直接的
是,您开发的信用,

因为这个市场正在发展,

可以出售。

所以我们在这里与微软的
合作伙伴关系以及他们的购买所做的事情,

如果你能够证明
这种吨位减少,

它就像每吨 20 美元
的碳信用额度,

所以它本身就是一种更直接的
支付方式。

这是我们将看到的不断发展的市场

我们还与 Nori 合作,
它是一个类似 eBay 的平台

,他们希望
成为碳信用交易的 eBay。

这是非常早期的阶段,
但这是一个令人兴奋的机会,

因为我们知道它将采用
这种创新、这种创造、

这种技术来应对气候变化。

农民

可以成为解决方案的一部分。

CH:谢谢你来到这里,贝丝。

BF:你打赌。