To save the climate we have to reimagine capitalism Rebecca Henderson

Transcriber: TED Translators Admin
Reviewer: Rhonda Jacobs

I am a tree hugger.

I spent much of my childhood

on the great lower limb
of a massive copper beech,

alternately reading and looking up
at the sky through its branches.

I felt safe and cared for

and connected to something
infinitely larger than myself.

I thought the trees were immortal,
that they would always be here.

But I was wrong.

The trees are dying.

Climate change is killing
the cedars of Lebanon

and the forests of the American West.

And it’s not just the trees.

Since 1998, extreme heat
has killed more than 160,000 people,

and unchecked climate change
could kill millions more.

How did we get here?

There are many reasons, of course,

but one of the most important

is that we let capitalism
morph into something monstrous.

I’m a huge fan of capitalism at its best.

After all, I’m an economist
and a business school professor.

I think genuinely free and fair markets

are one of the great inventions
of the human race.

But here’s the catch:

markets only work their magic
when prices reflect real costs.

And right now, prices
are badly out of whack.

We’re letting the firms
who sell fossil fuels,

and indeed anyone
who emits greenhouse gases,

cause enormous damage
for which they do not have to pay.

And that is hardly fair.

Imagine for a moment

that my hands are filled
with a cloud of electrons,

10 dollars' worth
of coal-fired electricity

that could power your cell phone
for more than 10 years.

That probably sounds
like a pretty good deal.

But it’s only so cheap

because you’re not paying
for the harm that it causes.

Burning coal sends poisons
like mercury and lead into the air,

increasing healthcare costs
by billions of dollars

and causing the death

of hundreds of thousands
of people every year.

It also emits huge quantities
of carbon dioxide.

So another part of the real cost of coal

is the climate damage it will cause
and is already causing.

More than a million acres
burned in California this summer,

and massive floods put a third
of Bangladesh under water.

Hundreds of studies have tried
to put a number on these costs.

My sense of this work,

and here I’m relying on my colleagues
in the School of Public Health

and my friends in economics,

is that generating 10 dollars' worth
of coal-fired electricity

causes at least eight dollars' worth
of harm to human health

and at least another
eight dollars' worth of climate damage

and probably much more.

So the true cost
of this handful of electrons?

It’s not 10 dollars.

It’s something more like 26.

The hidden costs of doing
things like burning oil and gas

and eating beef are similarly
enormous and just as unfair.

Everyone who’s trying
to build a clean economy

has to compete with firms
that are heavily subsidized

by the destruction of our health
and the degradation of our climate.

This is not the capitalism
I signed up for.

This is not a market
that is either free or fair.

So …

What do we do?

The “easy” answer
is that governments should insist

that anyone who emits greenhouse gases
pay for the damage that they cause.

However, at the moment,

there’s not much sign
that governments are up for this,

partly because the fossil fuel companies
have spent the last 20 years

using their heavily subsidized profits

to deny the reality of climate change

and to shower the politicians,

who should be regulating them, with money.

So here’s my crazy idea.

I think business should step up.

I think business should fix capitalism.

I know.
(Laughs)

Some of you are probably
thinking, “Fat chance.”

Didn’t I just say that companies
are the ones denying the science,

distorting the market
and lobbying the politicians?

I did.

But fixing this is squarely
in the private sector’s interest.

The truth is business is screwed
if we don’t fix climate change.

It’s going to be hard to make money

when the great coastal
cities are under water

and millions of angry people
are migrating north as the harvests fail.

It’s going to be tough
to keep free enterprise alive

if most people believe
the rich and the white

are using it to trash the planet
for their own benefit.

So let me tell you
what this looks like on the ground.

My friend Erik Osmundsen
left a cushy job in private equity

to become the CEO of a garbage company.

That sounds like a slightly odd idea.

But Erik wanted to make a difference,

and changing the way that trash is handled

could reduce emissions
by billions of tons.

Right away, he ran into a massive problem:

the industry was thoroughly corrupt.

Firms were cutting costs
by dumping waste illegally,

the regulations were poorly enforced

and the fines for violation were tiny.

Erik announced he was going to run clean

and to raise prices
to cover the costs of doing so.

Many of his senior team
thought he was crazy.

Half of them quit.

So did many of his customers.

His competitors denounced him
for bringing the industry into disrepute,

and he started
to receive personal threats.

But corruption works best
when it’s hidden.

As soon as Erik went public,
people started to step up.

A few customers were willing to pay more.

His investors agreed that taking
the high road could pay off.

Those of his employees who remained
loved the idea of taking a stand

and found all kinds
of legal ways to cut costs.

Erik persuaded several of his competitors

to join him in refusing
to dispose of garbage illegally,

and it got much tougher
for regulators to stay on the sidelines.

Today, Erik’s company, Norsk Gjenvinning,

is one of the largest
recycling companies in Scandinavia.

Let me generalize.

These are the four pillars of change:

Build a business
that can set the right price

and still be profitable.

Persuade your competitors
to do the same thing.

Make sure that investors understand
there’s money to be made.

And push governments
to put the right price into law

so that bottom-feeders can’t survive.

I’m not telling you we’ve got this nailed.

Things are pretty desperate.

But there are thousands
of businesspeople like Erik,

and there are millions of people like us.

And we are customers, employees,
investors and citizens.

Instead of giving up
on capitalism, let’s fix it

by making sure that markets
are truly fair and truly free,

and that no one can dump garbage on us

and walk away without paying for it.

We have the resources and the technology
to solve climate change.

Together, we can save the trees

and each other.

Thank you.

抄写员:TED Translators Admin
Reviewer:Rhonda Jacobs

我是个爱树的人。

我童年的大部分时间都是


巨大的铜山毛榉下肢上度过的,

时而阅读,
时而透过树枝仰望天空。

我感到安全和被关心,

并与
比我自己更大的东西联系在一起。

我以为树是不朽的
,它们会一直在这里。

但是我错了。

树木快死了。

气候变化正在杀死
黎巴嫩的雪松

和美国西部的森林。

不仅仅是树木。

自 1998 年以来,极端高温
已导致超过 160,000 人死亡

,不受控制的气候变化
可能导致数百万人死亡。

我们是怎么来到这里的?

当然,原因有很多,

但最重要的原因之一

是我们让资本主义
变成了可怕的东西。

我是最好的资本主义的忠实粉丝。

毕竟,我是经济学家
和商学院教授。

我认为真正自由和公平的市场

是人类的伟大发明
之一。

但这里有个问题:

只有
当价格反映实际成本时,市场才会发挥作用。

而现在,
价格严重失控。

我们让
出售化石燃料的公司,

甚至
任何排放温室气体的公司,

造成
了他们不必为此付出代价的巨大损失。

这并不公平。

想象一下

,我的双手
充满了电子云,

价值 10 美元
的燃煤

电可以为你的手机供电
10 年以上。

这听起来可能
是一笔不错的交易。

但它之所以如此便宜,

是因为你没有
为它造成的伤害买单。

燃烧煤炭会将
汞和铅等毒物排放到空气中,使

医疗保健成本
增加数十亿美元

,每年导致

数十万人死亡

它还排放大量
的二氧化碳。

因此,煤炭实际成本的另一部分

是它将造成
并且已经造成的气候破坏。 今年夏天,加州

有超过一百万英亩的土地
被烧毁

,大洪水使孟加拉国三分之一
的土地被淹没。

数百项研究
试图对这些成本进行统计。

我对这项工作的感觉

,在这里我依靠
公共卫生学院的同事

和我的经济学朋友

,生产价值 10 美元
的燃煤发电会对人类

造成至少 8 美元
的伤害 健康

和至少另外
8 美元的气候损失

,甚至可能更多。

那么
这少数电子的真正成本是多少?

这不是10美元。

这更像是 26。

燃烧石油和天然气

以及吃牛肉等事情的隐性成本同样
巨大,而且同样不公平。

每个
试图建立清洁经济的人

都必须与那些

因破坏我们的健康
和气候恶化而获得大量补贴的公司竞争。

这不是
我所支持的资本主义。

这不是一个
自由或公平的市场。

那么我们该怎么办?

“简单”的答案
是,政府应该坚持

让任何排放温室气体
的人为其造成的损害买单。

然而,

目前没有太多迹象
表明政府对此表示赞同,

部分原因是化石燃料
公司在过去 20 年里一直在

利用其高额补贴的利润

来否认气候变化的现实,

并让政客

们大吃一惊。 用钱监管他们。

所以这是我的疯狂想法。

我认为业务应该加强。

我认为商业应该修复资本主义。

我知道。
(笑)

你们中的一些人可能在
想,“机会很大。”

我刚才不是说公司
是否认科学、

扭曲市场
和游说政客的人吗?

我做到了。

但解决这个问题完全
符合私营部门的利益。

事实是,
如果我们不解决气候变化问题,企业就完蛋了。

当伟大的沿海
城市被淹没

并且由于收成不佳而数以百万计的愤怒的
人向北迁移时,将很难赚钱。

如果大多数人
认为富人和白人为了自己的利益

而利用它来破坏地球,那么要让自由企业保持活力将是很困难的

那么让我告诉你
这在地面上是什么样子的。

我的朋友埃里克·奥斯蒙森(Erik Osmundsen)
离开了私募

股权公司的一份轻松工作,成为一家垃圾公司的首席执行官。

这听起来有点奇怪。

但 Erik 想要有所作为

,改变垃圾处理方式可以

减少数十亿吨的排放。

马上,他遇到了一个大问题:

这个行业已经彻底腐败了。

公司
通过非法倾倒废物来削减成本

,法规执行

不力,违规罚款很少。

埃里克宣布他将干净利落

并提高价格
以支付这样做的成本。

他的许多高级团队
认为他疯了。

他们中的一半退出了。

他的许多客户也是如此。

他的竞争对手谴责他
让这个行业声名狼藉

,他
开始受到人身威胁。

但腐败
在隐藏时最有效。

埃里克一上市,
人们就开始站出来。

一些客户愿意支付更多。

他的投资者一致
认为,走高路可以获得回报。

那些留下来的员工
喜欢表明立场的想法,

并找到了
各种合法的方法来削减成本。

埃里克说服了他的几个竞争对手

加入他的行列
,拒绝非法处理垃圾,

监管机构更难袖手旁观。

今天,Erik 的公司 Norsk Gjenvinning

是斯堪的纳维亚半岛最大的
回收公司之一。

让我概括一下。

这些是变革的四大支柱:

建立
一个可以设定合适的价格

并且仍然可以盈利的企业。

说服你的
竞争对手做同样的事情。

确保投资者
明白有钱可赚。

并推动
政府将正确的价格纳入法律,

以使底层供应商无法生存。

我不是告诉你我们已经搞定了。

事情相当绝望。

但是
像埃里克这样的商人

有成千上万,像我们这样的人有数百万人。

我们是客户、员工、
投资者和公民。

与其
放弃资本主义,不如让我们

通过确保
市场真正公平和真正自由来解决这个问题

,没有人可以向我们倾倒垃圾,

然后不付钱就走开。

我们拥有
解决气候变化的资源和技术。

我们可以一起拯救树木

和彼此。

谢谢你。