Why Climate Action Gets Stuck and What to do About it

Transcriber: Amanda Chu
Reviewer: Rhonda Jacobs

Welcome to the future.

I’m Matt Hoffmann.

I’ve been researching, writing,
and studying about climate change

for the last 20 years,

and I’m terrified.

So what I want you to do
first today for me

is imagine that
you’re a GO train commuter

in November of 2018,

and you pull into the parking lot
at the GO train station.

You’re on time this time,

so, you know, you’re not worried
about catching your train.

You notice out of the corner of your eye

some activity over at
the electrical charging stations.

You notice there’s some
Metrolinx workers there,

and this sparks your memory.

You say, “Man,
last month, back in October,

I heard about this UN report.

It said something like we have 12 years
to fix climate change or something.

And now look, they’re working
on the electric charging stations.

Metrolinx is really on it.

They’re really not usually fast
about anything.

And maybe I’ll get an electric vehicle.

Things seem to be moving
in that direction.”

You get on your train.
You go about your daily business.

And later on in the day,
you’re reading the CBC news.

That’s when it hits you.

Those workers weren’t there
installing electrical charging stations;

they were actually there removing them.

You dig a little further,

and you realize that
this unwinding was not alone,

that the current provincial government

has actually unwound
a number of climate policies

that were put in place previously.

The current provincial government

has removed subsidies
for electric vehicles,

it has canceled up to
750 renewable energy programs,

and it has canceled
the cap and trade program

that we had in Ontario.

Now, this kind of unwinding,
this kind of backsliding

could be viewed through the view -
or the lens of partisan politics.

That’s missing something.

That’s missing something.

This is not just a story
about partisan politics or polarization,

one government replacing
what the previous government had done.

In research that I’ve done
with a colleague of mine,

Steven Bernstein,

on political pathways to decarbonization,

we’ve studied dozens of attempts

at generating climate action
from the neighborhood level,

through cities, through nation-states,
through the global level,

and unfortunately,

what we found in this study
is this pattern that we see in Ontario,

where we make a little bit of progress,
we get some climate action started,

but then it gets stuck.

It stalls and sometimes is even reversed.

What we found across our studies
is this is a very familiar pattern.

We get stuck.

We get started on climate action,
but then we get stuck.

And if we’re going to have
the kind of transformation that we need -

and let me tell you we need
some significant transformation

to deal with, navigate,
and address climate change -

if we’re going to have
the kind of transformation that we need,

we have to get unstuck,
and we have to do so relatively quickly.

And so what I want
to talk to you about today

is why we get stuck.

Because I think it’s really important

to understand the dynamics
that get us stuck

if we want to have any hope
of pursuing that low-carbon future

and getting our climate actions unstuck.

So I’m going to talk
about three reasons why we get stuck,

and then the mirror of those,
of how we get unstuck.

First,

we get stuck because climate change
is a very hard problem.

It is perhaps the most difficult problem
that humanity has ever faced.

And the problem is, is that we have
overlapping technological forces,

political dynamics,

economic interests,

social norms,

all reinforcing the natural use
of fossil energy.

Our economies,

our transportation systems,

our energy systems,

all run on fossil energy,

and it’s reinforced.

And this reinforcement,

this lock-in, or entanglement,
with fossil energy

spans from the city level.

This is a pretty common picture
in Toronto of a traffic jam.

We’re entangled in fossil energy
at the city level

because of how cities are planned,

because of people’s
transportation choices,

because of energy policy
at the municipal level,

because of the range of technologies
available to citizens,

and it goes up to the national level.

We’re locked into - or entangled
in the use of fossil energy

at the Canadian level

because of economic policy,

because of economic interests,

because of the way
that provincial politics works.

And what makes it even more difficult

is that the lock-in that we see
at the national level

reinforces how entangled Toronto is
with the use of fossil energy,

and vice versa.

So it’s a very difficult problem,

and that’s one of
the reasons we get stuck.

But it’s also connected
to the second reason,

and that’s that everything is connected.

Now you might be wondering

why I have a picture of
relatively prosaic LED light bulbs here.

What I want to tell you a story about here
is how individual actions get stuck.

Because individual attempts
to act on climate change,

whether they be individuals
changing their light bulbs

or individual policies,

often run into that inertia
of the larger system,

and so when you can take action,
it gets pushed back down by this inertia,

and this happens with things
like changing your light bulbs.

So you’re a good environmentalist.

You’ve heard that
LED light bulbs save energy,

and not only do they save energy,
they save money as well,

and so you change
all of your light bulbs in your house.

Unfortunately, or fortunately,

you save 100 dollars, right?

over a year, let’s say, for round numbers.

You’re also a good environmentalist,

so you don’t take that 100 dollars
and spend it on a big screen TV;

you put it in the bank.

Well, here’s where things get complicated.

As a couple of economists
and political scientists

Walker and Willoughby have shown,

the problem is

the bank takes your 100 dollars

and turns it into
a 1000-dollar investment.

This is called leveraged lending.

You see where I’m going?

Your 100 dollars,

saving money and saving the environment
by switching to LED light bulbs,

just turned into a 1000-dollar investment

in the tar sands.

Individual actions, individual policies,

when they’re done alone, out of context,

can be pushed back
by the inertia of the system.

That’s the second reason we get stuck.

Some of our solutions,
some of our climate actions

are not actually solutions.

And so what we see here

is the carbon footprint
of various fuels for producing energy.

What you see here
is coal is towards the bottom -

coal has relatively
high carbon footprint -

and up at the top is natural gas.

And so what we see here

is that switching from coal to natural gas
to producing electricity

will generate emissions reductions,

and emissions reductions is a good thing

because it’s emissions
that are causing global warming.

But this is only getting
at the symptoms of those problems.

This is only getting at the symptoms

rather than the underlying dependence

on fossil energy.

And the problem
with bridge fuels like this -

so-called bridge fuels -

is that there are interests
involved in producing natural gas.

Economic interest,
political interest, infrastructure

is all going to be developed
around natural gas,

and they won’t necessarily want to change.

They won’t want to be
a bridge to somewhere else.

They want to be the end.

And this is actually what people have seen
in places like Colorado,

where colleagues of mine,
Betzel and Stevis,

did a really fascinating study

looking at how politicians
and policy makers in Colorado

tried to develop the new energy economy.

They really wanted to get coal
out of their energy systems

and really wanted to promote
renewable energy,

but the fracking revolution
really dropped the price of natural gas,

and they ended up redefining
what counted as the new energy economy

to include significant
dependence on natural gas.

They haven’t transformed
away from dependence on fossil energy,

because they chose a solution
that got at the symptoms,

got at emissions,

but did not get at the underlying
cause of climate change:

dependence on fossil energy.

So, those seem like
three relatively large problems.

And so I’m going to ask you

as I often do my students at this point
in a class or a semester:

Should we just give up?

Should we just go to the beach
and enjoy our last days of global warming?

And it’s a tempting option,
but the answer is obviously no,

or else I wouldn’t be here giving a talk,

for one thing.

And so one of the things
that we have to do

is now do that mirror image.

If those are the reasons we get stuck,
how do we get unstuck?

And how do we use our knowledge
of why we get stuck to undo some of that?

Essentially, we’re really good
at getting here,

at getting started,

at putting something in place

and having a pilot project

and having a new policy

and changing our behavior,

but the politics and the energy
involved in getting to here

is different than moving this up,

than scaling up,

than getting to broader transformation.

And understanding why we get stuck

leads us to some lessons
about how we might get unstuck.

And really, it’s the mirror image.

So if it’s a really hard problem
and everything’s connected,

well, one of the things
that you have to do

with your solutions
and your climate actions

is think in terms of ecosystems of action,

think in terms of multiple policies.

So here what we have is coming back
to that electrical vehicle.

Example:

To really decarbonize
our transportation system, right?

we need to have a whole suite
of policies in place -

we have to have charging stations
so people don’t have range anxiety,

we have to have finance

that brings the cost of electric vehicles
and gas vehicles into relative parity,

we have to have marketing

so that people feel like
driving an electric vehicle

is something they really want to do.

All of these are have to do
to drive up demand for electric vehicles

so that voters and auto companies

don’t think that
they’re just a niche market

that we’re spending
a bunch of resources on.

This sounds hard, but it’s not impossible.

In fact,

56 percent of Norway’s new cars last year

were electric,

and Norway is on a path
to developing a decarbonized auto sector

precisely because they take
an ecosystem approach.

They’re not thinking about single policies

that can be pushed back
by the inertia of the system;

they’re thinking about
how all of that system needs to change.

Second, you have to think
about disruption and transformation,

not just emissions reduction.

What we see here is just a simple graph

that basically says we have to entirely
change our energy production system

within the next 30 years.

It’s a simple graph with a scary result.

But what this means

is that simply focusing
on emissions reduction

rather than thinking
about how your climate actions,

your climate policies

can disrupt the dependence
on fossil energy,

how it can disrupt
our lock-in around fossil energy,

means that you’re likely to get stuck.

You have to think about transformation,
not just emissions reduction.

And finally -

and this is my absolute favorite picture
from the recent climate strikes,

the idea of babies for climate justice

just brings a smile
to my face every time -

we have to think about
what kind of broad support we need

to go from those initial policies
to broad transformation.

Because make no mistake,

we are talking about broad transformation

of our societies, of our economies,
of our energy systems.

This will take support.

This is going to take political support.

And what that means

is that people have to see themselves

living the good life
in the low-carbon future.

They have to see themselves
living in a society that’s better,

not just trying to avoid one
that’s catastrophic.

And this means that climate actions
cannot just be about technology.

Climate actions cannot just be
about shifting emissions around

and changing energy sources.

They have to have a place for justice.

They have to have a place for equity.

Because it’s only when we build justice
and equity into our climate actions

that we can build the kind
of broad-based support that we need

to really move forward on transformation.

And so thinking about Vision 2020,

one of the things
that I like to think about

and want to leave you with

is the notion that we can’t achieve
a more just society,

a more equitable society

without dealing with climate change,

because climate change
is our reality right now,

and it is going to have impacts

that are going to affect
justice and equity.

But we also can’t address climate change
in any sort of politically feasible way

without dealing and without
incorporating justice and equity

so that we can have a low-carbon world
that’s good for all of us.

Thank you so much.

(Applause) (Cheers)

抄写员:Amanda Chu
审稿人:Rhonda Jacobs

欢迎来到未来。

我是马特霍夫曼。 在过去的 20 年里,

我一直在研究、写作
和研究气候

变化,

我很害怕。

所以今天我想让你
首先为我做的

就是想象
你是 2018 年 11 月的 GO 火车通勤者

,你把车停
在 GO 火车站的停车场。

这次你准时,

所以,你知道,你不
担心赶上你的火车。

您从眼角注意到

充电站的一些活动。

你注意到那里有一些
Metrolinx 工作人员

,这激发了你的记忆。

你说,“伙计,
上个月,早在 10 月,

我听说了这份联合国报告。

它说我们有 12 年时间
来解决气候变化或其他问题

。现在看,他们正在
研究充电站

。Metrolinx 真的很重要。

他们通常对任何事情都不是很快

。也许我会买一辆电动汽车。

事情似乎正
朝着这个方向发展。

你上火车。
你去做你的日常事务。

当天晚些时候,
您正在阅读 CBC 新闻。

那就是它击中你的时候。

那些工人没有在那里
安装充电站;

他们实际上在那里删除它们。

你再深入一点

,你就会意识到
这种放松并不是唯一的

,现任

省政府实际上已经取消
了之前实施的一些气候政策

目前的省政府

已经取消了
对电动汽车的补贴

,取消了多达
750 个可再生能源计划,

并且取消
了我们在安大略省的限额与交易计划

现在,这种放松,
这种倒退

可以通过观点 -
或党派政治的镜头来看待。

那是缺少一些东西。

那是缺少一些东西。

这不仅仅是一个
关于党派政治或两极分化的故事,

一个政府取代
了前任政府所做的事情。

在我
与我的同事

史蒂文·伯恩斯坦(Steven Bernstein)

就脱碳的政治途径进行的

研究中,我们研究了数十种

从社区层面

、城市、民族国家
、全球层面产生气候行动的尝试

,不幸的是,

我们在这项研究中发现的
是我们在安大略省看到的这种模式,在

那里我们取得了一点进展,
我们开始了一些气候行动,

但随后就陷入了困境。

它停滞不前,有时甚至逆转。

我们在研究中发现
这是一个非常熟悉的模式。

我们被卡住了。

我们开始采取气候行动,
但后来我们陷入了困境。

如果我们要进行
我们需要的转型

——让我告诉你,我们需要
一些重大的转型

来应对、驾驭
和应对气候变化——

如果我们要进行我们需要
的转型 需要,

我们必须摆脱困境,
而且我们必须相对较快地做到这一点。

所以我
今天想和你谈谈的

是我们为什么会陷入困境。

因为我认为,

如果我们想要
追求低碳未来

并让我们的气候行动摆脱困境,那么了解让我们陷入困境的动力非常重要。

所以我要
谈谈我们被卡住的三个原因,

然后是这些原因的镜子,
我们是如何摆脱困境的。

首先,

我们陷入困境,因为气候变化
是一个非常棘手的问题。

这也许是人类曾经面临的最困难的问题

问题是,我们拥有
重叠的技术力量、

政治动态、

经济利益、

社会规范,

所有这些都加强了化石能源的自然利用

我们的经济、

我们的交通系统、

我们的能源系统,

都以化石能源为基础,

并且得到了加强。

这种强化,

这种锁定或纠缠,
与化石能源的关系

跨越了城市层面。


是多伦多交通拥堵的常见照片。

我们在城市层面纠缠于化石能源

,因为城市的规划方式、

人们的
交通选择、

市政层面的能源政策、

公民可用的技术范围,

而且它上升到国家层面 等级。

由于经济政策,

由于经济利益,

由于
省级政治的运作方式,我们被锁定或纠缠在加拿大一级使用化石能源。

更困难的

是,我们在国家层面看到的锁定

强化了多伦多
与化石能源使用的纠缠,

反之亦然。

所以这是一个非常困难的问题

,这也是
我们陷入困境的原因之一。

但这也
与第二个原因有关

,那就是一切都是相互联系的。

现在你可能想知道

为什么我这里有一张
相对平淡无奇的 LED 灯泡的照片。

我想告诉你一个关于
个人行为如何被卡住的故事。

因为个人试图
对气候变化采取行动,

无论是个人
更换灯泡

还是个人政策,

经常会遇到
更大系统的惯性

,所以当你可以采取行动时,
它会被这种惯性推倒

,这 发生在
更换灯泡之类的事情上。

所以你是一个优秀的环保主义者。

您听说过
LED 灯泡

节能,它们不仅节能,
而且还省钱

,因此您更换
了家里所有的灯泡。

不幸的是,或者幸运的是,

你节省了 100 美元,对吧?

比方说,一年多的整数。

你也是一个优秀的环保主义者,

所以你不会把那 100
美元花在大屏幕电视上;

你把它放在银行里。

好吧,这就是事情变得复杂的地方。

正如几位经济学家
和政治学家

沃克和威洛比所表明的那样

,问题

在于银行拿走你的 100 美元

并将其
变成 1000 美元的投资。

这称为杠杆借贷。

你看到我要去哪里了吗?

您的 100 美元,

通过改用 LED 灯泡来节省资金和保护环境,

只是变成了 1000

美元的焦油砂投资。

单独的行动、单独的政策,

当它们单独完成时,脱离上下文,

可能会
被系统的惯性推回。

这是我们陷入困境的第二个原因。

我们的一些解决方案,我们的
一些气候行动

实际上并不是解决方案。

所以我们在这里看到的


用于生产能源的各种燃料的碳足迹。

你在这里看到的
是煤炭在底部——

煤炭的
碳足迹相对较高——

而在顶部是天然气。

所以我们在这里看到的

是,从煤炭转向天然气
到发电

将产生减排

,减排是一件好事,

因为
它是导致全球变暖的排放。

但这只是
解决这些问题的症状。

这只是针对症状,

而不是

对化石能源的潜在依赖。

这样的桥梁燃料——所谓的桥梁燃料——

的问题
在于生产天然气涉及利益。

经济利益、
政治利益、基础

设施都将
围绕天然气发展

,他们不一定想要改变。

他们不想成为
通往其他地方的桥梁。

他们想成为终结者。

这实际上是人们
在科罗拉多等地看到的

情况,我的同事 Betzel 和 Stevis 在那里

做了一项非常有趣的研究,研究

科罗拉多州的政治家和政策制定者如何

试图发展新能源经济。

他们真的想把煤炭
从他们的能源系统中剔除

,真的想推广
可再生能源,

但水力压裂革命
确实降低了天然气的价格

,他们最终重新
定义了新能源经济

,包括
对天然气的严重依赖 .

他们并没有
摆脱对化石能源的依赖,

因为他们选择了一种解决
方案,解决了症状,解决

了排放问题,

但没有解决
气候变化的根本原因:

对化石能源的依赖。

因此,这些似乎是
三个相对较大的问题。

所以我要问你,

就像我在一个班级或一个学期的这个时候经常问我的学生一样

我们应该放弃吗?

我们应该去
海滩享受全球变暖的最后几天吗?

这是一个诱人的选择,
但答案显然是否定的

,否则我就不会在这里发表演讲

所以
我们

现在要做的一件事就是做那个镜像。

如果这些是我们卡住的原因,
我们如何摆脱卡住?

以及我们如何利用
我们对为什么会陷入困境的知识来撤消其中的一些?

从本质上讲,我们真的很
擅长到达这里,

开始着手

,把东西落实到位

,进行试点项目

,制定新政策

并改变我们的行为,

但是到达这里所涉及的政治和精力

与搬家不同 这是扩大,而

不是扩大规模,而

不是进行更广泛的转型。

理解我们为什么会被卡住

会让我们学到一些
关于我们如何摆脱困境的教训。

真的,这是镜像。

因此,如果这是一个非常困难的问题,
并且一切都相互关联,

那么
,你必须对

你的解决方案
和气候行动做的一件事

就是从行动生态系统的

角度思考,从多重政策的角度思考。

所以在这里,我们所拥有的是
回到那辆电动汽车。

示例:

要真正使
我们的交通系统脱碳,对吗?

我们需要
制定一整套政策——

我们必须有充电站,
这样人们就不会担心里程焦虑,

我们必须有资金

让电动汽车
和燃气汽车的成本达到相对平等,

我们必须有 营销,

让人们觉得
驾驶电动汽车

是他们真正想做的事情。

所有这些都必须
推动对电动汽车的需求,

这样选民和汽车公司

就不会认为
它们只是一个

我们正在投入
大量资源的利基市场。

这听起来很难,但并非不可能。

事实上,

去年挪威 56% 的新车

是电动汽车,

而挪威正走
在发展脱碳汽车行业的道路上,

正是因为他们采用
了生态系统方法。

他们考虑的

不是可以被
系统惯性推倒的单一政策;

他们正在考虑
如何改变所有的系统。

其次,您必须
考虑颠覆和转型,

而不仅仅是减排。

我们在这里看到的只是一个简单的图表

,它基本上表明我们必须在未来 30 年内彻底
改变我们的能源生产系统

这是一个带有可怕结果的简单图表。

但这

意味着,仅仅
关注减排

而不是
考虑你的气候行动、

你的气候政策

如何破坏
对化石能源的依赖、

它如何破坏
我们对化石能源的锁定,

意味着你可能会 卡住了。

你必须考虑转型,
而不仅仅是减排。

最后

——这是最近气候袭击中我最喜欢的照片

,婴儿为气候正义而生的想法

每次都会让我微笑——

我们必须考虑从最初的那些开始
我们需要什么样的广泛支持

广泛转型的政策。

因为毫无疑问,

我们正在谈论

我们的社会、经济
和能源系统的广泛转型。

这将需要支持。

这将需要政治支持。

意味着人们必须看到自己在低碳未来

过上美好的生活

他们必须看到自己
生活在一个更好的社会中,

而不仅仅是试图避免
一个灾难性的社会。

这意味着气候
行动不仅仅与技术有关。

气候行动
不仅仅是转移排放

和改变能源。

他们必须有一个伸张正义的地方。

他们必须有一个公平的地方。

因为只有当
我们在气候行动中建立正义和公平时

,我们才能建立
我们真正推进转型所需的基础广泛的支持

因此,考虑到 2020 年愿景

,我想思考

并想留给大家的一件事

是,如果不应对气候变化,我们就无法实现
一个更公正、

更公平的社会,

因为气候变化
是我们现在的现实

,它将产生影响

正义和公平的影响。

但是,我们也不能
以任何政治上可行的方式应对气候变化,

而不进行处理,不
纳入正义和公平,

这样我们就可以拥有一个
对我们所有人都有好处的低碳世界。

太感谢了。

(掌声)(欢呼)