Making a TEDEd Lesson Creative process

Transcriber: Andrea McDonough
Reviewer: Jessica Ruby

The healthy liver cell divides only when it’s stressed.

The healthy hair cell divides frequently.

And the cancer cell divides even more frequently and recklessly.

“The first draft that I saw was, like,

four days before it was supposed to go online

or something like that,

and I hadn’t heard, you know I hadn’t heard, so, I was like,

‘Hey, guys, just wondering if you need me for anything?’

You know?

And so she floods my inbox with emails, being like,

‘Yes, we actually need you for a bunch of stuff!’

And it was great.

Like, when I first saw it,

I mean, you immediately get the whole natural versus unnatural technique.”

“Not good for you?”

“Right, yes, there you go,

good for you and not good for you.

Seeing that, actually, was really cool

because, I mean, I had no idea.

Writing the script, you have no idea

what it’s going to turn out like in the end.

But you get this, like, intuitive feel of

‘Okay, like, yeah, I get why this is a cancer cell,

and I get why this is a healthy cell.’

And, actually, I showed it to,

I showed an early draft to the professor

with whom I was fact-checking the script

who is a cancer researcher at MIT,

and he said that it was one of the best visualizations

of cancer cells that he’d ever seen.

So, that was really cool to hear as well.”

“When you get a script,

do you make a storyboard or not?”

“I guess it depends on the method

that we use to produce the piece because, for example,

things that would definitely be character-heavy,

like ‘Ladder of Inference’,

we worked with a storyboard from beginning to end

because we were dealing with character animation.

And something like that is much different

than stop-motion, for example.

But, also, I mean Biljana and I have also worked together

for, like, nearly ten years or something absurd

so we don’t need as much of a, you know,

a piece of paper to tell us what to do,

whereas, if I were working with someone new,

then I would really want to work with a storyboard,

but we kind of trust each other.”

“So, you, like, finish…

…each other’s sentences.”

“We can try that again.”

“No, we definitely shouldn’t use that, it’s too cheesy.”

“So, there was a part in the video

where we had to represent how the cells reproduce

and how chemotherapy affects it.

And it became quite complicated for me to visualize,

so I actually had to ask you

to draw little doodles for me to actually explain that.

How was that for you?

How was that experience?”

“I mean, it was pretty difficult for me to visualize, too,

so, it was interesting.

Doing the storyboard actually helped me clarify

in my head, like, how it actually works

because when you have to explain something

to someone else, with anything, obviously,

you have to, like, really figure it out yourself.

And, then, when you have to draw it,

that requires you to take an extra level

of abstraction and figure out,

like, okay, like, what are the parts of this drawing

that are really important?

What do I have to show clearly,

and how do I show it?

And, so, doing that on a legal pad,

which is, I think, how I ended up sending it to you guys,

taking a picture of myself on camera,

really helped, you know, me understand the crucial,

and that’s the crucial part

of why chemotherapy actually works.

So, it was a really interesting experience.”

“Yeah, we actually started that on a,

we had a whiteboard,

and I was trying to figure out that process.

I think we started at the beginning

from cell division and multiplying

and, you know, chemotherapy working.

But then it became so crazy

that I had to pull back and start from the end

and go in a different direction.

So, that became quite a challenge, too,

figuring it out.”

“We ended up using the visual that you gave us on the storyboard,

which is really cool to have that sort of collaboration

with the educator with whom you’re working.”

“And I can’t draw, so that should be noted.

It was a very rough storyboard.”

“It was good enough.”

“Good enough!”

抄写员:Andrea McDonough
审稿人:Jessica

Ruby 健康的肝细胞只有在受到压力时才会分裂。

健康的毛细胞经常分裂。

癌细胞分裂得更加频繁和鲁莽。

“我看到的初稿是,

在它应该上线前四天

或类似的东西

,我没听说过,你知道我没听说过,所以,我想,

‘嘿,伙计们 ,只是想知道你是否需要我做任何事?

你知道吗

?所以她在我的收件箱里塞满了电子邮件,就像是,

“是的,我们真的需要你来做一堆东西!”

它很棒。

就像,当我第一次看到它时,

我的意思是,你会立即了解整个自然与非自然的技术。

“对你不好?”

“对,是的,你去吧,

对你有好处,对你不利。

看到那个,实际上,真的很酷,

因为,我的意思是,我不知道。

写剧本,你不

知道结果会怎样 就像最后一样。

但是你会得到这种,就像,直觉的感觉,

“好吧,就像,是的,我明白为什么这是一个癌细胞

,我明白为什么这是一个健康的细胞。”

而且,实际上,我向麻省理工学院癌症研究员

的教授展示了一份早期

草稿,他说这

是他对癌细胞的最佳可视化之一。 “见过。

所以,听到这也很酷。”

“当你拿到剧本时,

你会做故事板还是不做故事板?”

“我想这取决于

我们用来制作作品的方法,因为例如,

肯定会很重角色的东西,

比如‘推理的阶梯’,

我们从头到尾都在使用故事板,

因为我们正在处理 角色动画

。例如,类似的东西与定格动画有很大

不同。

但是,另外,我的意思是 Biljana 和我也一起

工作了将近十年或一些荒谬的事情,

所以我们不需要那么多 一个,你知道,

一张纸告诉我们该做什么,

然而,如果我和一个新人一起工作,

那么我真的很想和一个故事板一起工作,

但我们有点相互信任。”

“所以,你,就像,完成

……彼此的句子。”

“我们可以再试一次。”

“不,我们绝对不应该使用它,它太俗气了。”

“所以,视频中有一部分

我们必须展示细胞如何繁殖

以及化学疗法如何影响它。

而且对我来说,想象起来变得非常复杂,

所以我实际上不得不请你

为我画一些小涂鸦。 解释一下。

那对你来说怎么

样?那次经历怎么样?

“我的意思是,我也很难想象,

所以,这很有趣。

做故事板实际上帮助我

在脑海中澄清,比如,它实际上是如何工作的,

因为当你必须向别人解释某些

事情时, 任何东西,显然,

你必须,比如,真正地自己弄清楚

。然后,当你必须画它时,

这需要你采取额外

的抽象层次,并弄清楚,

像,好吧,像,什么是 这幅画

中真正重要的部分

?我必须清楚地

展示什么,以及如何展示它?

而且,所以,在法律本上

这样做,我想,我最终是如何将它发送给你们的 ,

在相机上拍下自己的照片,

真的很有帮助,你知道,我理解了关键

,这

就是化疗真正起作用的关键部分。

所以,这是一次非常有趣的经历。”

“是的,我们实际上是在

一个白板上开始的

,我试图弄清楚这个过程。

我认为我们一开始是

从细胞分裂和增殖开始

的,你知道,化疗起作用了。

但后来它变得如此 “

我不得不退后一步,从头开始

,朝着不同的方向前进

,这太疯狂了。所以,弄清楚这件事也成了一个很大的挑战

。”

“我们最终使用了你在故事板上给我们的视觉效果,

与你一起工作的教育工作者进行这种合作真的很酷。”

“而且我不会画画,所以应该注意。

这是一个非常粗糙的故事板。”

“这已经足够好了。”

“够好了!”