Karen Eber How your brain responds to stories and why theyre crucial for leaders TED

Transcriber: Ivana Korom
Reviewer: Joanna Pietrulewicz

Maria walked into the elevator at work.

She went to press the button
when her phone fell out of her hand.

It bounced on the floor and –

went straight down that little opening
between the elevator and the floor.

And she realized it wasn’t just her phone,

it was her phone wallet
that had her driver’s license,

her credit card, her whole life.

She went to the front desk
to talk to Ray, the security guard.

Ray was really happy to see her.

Maria is one of the few people

that actually stops
and says hello to him each day.

In fact, she’s one of these people
that knows your birthday

and your favorite food,
and your last vacation,

not because she’s weird,

she just genuinely likes people
and likes them to feel seen.

She tells Ray what happened,

and he said it’s going to cost
at least 500 dollars

to get her phone back

and he goes to get a quote
while she goes back to her desk.

Twenty minutes later,
he calls her and he says, “Maria,

I was looking at the inspection
certificate in the elevator.

It’s actually due for its annual
inspection next month.

I’m going to go ahead
and call that in today

and we’ll be able to get your phone back
and it won’t cost you anything.”

The same day this happened,

I read an article about the CEO
of Charles Schwab, Walter Bettinger.

He’s describing his straight-A
career at university

going in to his last exam
expecting to ace it,

when the professor gives one question:

“What is the name of the person
that cleans this room?”

And he failed the exam.

He had seen her,
but he had never met her before.

Her name was Dottie
and he made a vow that day

to always know the Dotties in his life

because both Walter and Maria

understand this power
of helping people feel seen,

especially as a leader.

I used that story back when I worked
at General Electric.

I was responsible for shaping culture
in a business of 90,000 employees

in 150 countries.

And I found that stories
were such a great way

to connect with people

and have them think,

“What would I do in this situation?

Would I have known Dottie

or who are the Dotties
I need to know in my life?”

I found that no matter people’s gender
or their generation

or their geography in the world,

the stories resonated and worked.

But in my work with leaders,

I’ve also found they tend
to be allergic to telling stories.

They’re not sure where to find them,

or they’re not sure how to tell them,

or they think they have to present data

and that there’s just
not room to tell a story.

And that’s where I want to focus today.

Because storytelling and data
is actually not this either-or.

It’s an “and,” they actually
create this power ballad

that connects you
to information differently.

To understand how,

we have to first understand
what happens neurologically

when you’re listening to a story and data.

So as you’re in a lecture
or you’re in a meeting,

two small parts of your brain
are activated,

Wernicke and Broca’s area.

This is where you’re
processing information,

and it’s also why you tend
to forget 50 percent of it

right after you hear it.

When you listen to a story,

your entire brain starts to light up.

Each of your lobes will light up

as your senses and your
emotions are engaged.

As I talk about a phone falling
and hitting the ground with a thud

your occipital and your temporal
lobes are lighting up

as though you are actually
seeing that falling phone

and hearing it hit with a thud.

There’s this term, neural coupling,

which says, as the listener,

your brain will light up exactly as mine

as the storyteller.

It mirrors this activity

as though you are actually
experiencing these things.

Storytelling gives you
this artificial reality.

If I talked to you about, like,
walking through the snow

and with each step,

the snow is crunching under my shoes,

and big, wet flakes
are falling on my cheeks,

your brains are now lighting up

as though you are walking through the snow
and experiencing these things.

It’s why you can sit in an action movie

and not be moving,

but your heart is racing
as though you’re the star on-screen

because this neural coupling
has your brain lighting up

as though you are having that activity.

As you listen to stories,

you automatically gain empathy
for the storyteller.

The more empathy you experience,

the more oxytocin
is released in your brain.

Oxytocin is the feel-good chemical

and the more oxytocin you have,

the more trustworthy
you actually view the speaker.

This is why storytelling
is such a critical skill for a leader

because the very act of telling a story

makes people trust you more.

As you begin to listen to data,
some different things happen.

There are some misconceptions
to understand.

And the first is that data
doesn’t change our behavior,

emotions do.

If data changed our behavior,

we would all sleep eight hours
and exercise and floss daily

and drink eight glasses of water.

But that’s not how we actually decide.

Neuroscientists have studied
decision-making,

and it starts in our amygdala.

This is our emotional epicenter

where we have the ability
to experience emotions

and it’s here at a subconscious level
where we begin to decide.

We make choices to pursue pleasure

or to avoid risk,

all before we become aware of it.

At the point we become aware,

where it comes to the conscious level,

we start to apply
rationalization and logic,

which is why we think we’re making
these rationally-based decisions,

not realizing that they were
already decided in our subconscious.

Antonio Damasio is a neuroscientist

that started to study patients
that had damage to their amygdala.

Fully functioning in every way,

except they could not experience emotions.

And as a result,
they could not make decisions.

Something as simple as
“do I go this way or this way”

they were incapable of doing,

because they could not
experience emotions.

These were people
that were wildly successful

before they had the damage
to their amygdala

and now they couldn’t complete
any of their projects

and their careers took big hits,

all because they couldn’t experience
emotions where we decide.

Another data misconception.

Data never speaks for itself.

Our brains love to anticipate

and as we anticipate,

we fill in the gaps
on what we’re seeing or hearing

with our own knowledge and experience

and our own bias.

Which means my understanding of data
is going to differ from yours,

and it’s going to differ from yours,

because we’re all going to have
our own interpretation

if there isn’t a way to guide us through.

Now I’m not suggesting
that data is bad and story is good.

They both play a key role.

And to understand how,

you have to see what makes a great story.

It’s going to answer three questions.

The first is:

What is the context?

Meaning, what’s the setting,
who is involved,

why should I even care?

What is the conflict,

where is that moment
where everything changes?

And what is the outcome?

Where is it different,
what is the takeaway?

A good story also has three attributes,

the first being it is going to build
and release tension.

So because our brains love to anticipate,

a great story builds tension
by making you wonder:

“Where is she going with this?”

“What’s happening next,” right?

A good story keeps you,
keeps your attention going.

And it releases it
by sharing something unexpected

and it does this over and over
throughout the story.

A great story also builds an idea.

It helps you see something
that you can no longer unsee,

leaving you changed,

because stories actually
do leave you changed.

And a great story communicates value.

Stanford has done research
on one of the best ways

to shape organizational culture,

and it is storytelling,

because it’s going to demonstrate
what you value and encourage

or what you don’t value
and what you discourage.

As you start to write your power ballad,

most people want to start with the data.

They want to dig in,

because we often have piles of data.

But there’s a common mistake
we make when we do that.

I was working with a CEO.

She came to me to prepare
for her annual company-wide meeting

and she had 45 slides of data

for a 45-minute presentation.

A recipe for a boring, unmemorable talk.

And this is what most people do,

they come armed with all of this data

and they try to sort their way through

without a big picture

and then they lose their way.

We actually put the data aside
and I asked her,

“What’s the problem
you’re trying to solve?

What do you want people
to think and feel different

and what do you want people
to do different at the end of this?”

That is where you start
with data and storytelling.

You come up with this framework
to guide the way through

both the story and the data.

In her case,

she wants her company
to be able to break into new markets,

to remain competitive.

She ended up telling a story
about her daughter,

who’s a gymnast who’s competing
for a scholarship,

and she had to learn new routines
with increasing difficulty

to be competitive.

This is one of your choices.

Do you tell a story about the data itself

or do you tell a parallel story,

where you pull out points from the story
to reinforce the data?

As you begin this ballad,

this melody and harmony of data
and storytelling come together

in a way that will stay
with you long after.

Briana was a college adviser.

And she was asked to present
to her university leadership

when she realized that a large population
of their students with autism

were not graduating.

She came to me because
her leaders kept saying,

“Present the data, focus on the data,”

but she felt like university officials
already had the data.

She was trying to figure out
how to help them connect with it.

So we worked together to help her
tell the story about Michelle.

Michelle was a straight-A
student in high school

who had these dreams
of going to university.

Michelle was also a student with autism

who was terrified about how
she would be able to navigate

the changes of university.

Her worst fears came true
on her first phone call

with her adviser,

when he asked her questions like,

“Where do you see yourself in five years?”

and “What are your career aspirations?”

Questions that are hard for anybody.

But for a person with autism

to have to respond to verbally?

Paralyzing.

She got off the phone,
was ready to drop out,

until her parents sat down with her

and helped her write an email
to her adviser.

She told him that she was
a student with autism,

which was really hard for her to share

because she felt like there was a stigma
associated just by sharing that.

She told him that she preferred
to communicate in writing,

if he could send her questions in advance,

she would be able
to send replies back to him

before they got on the phone
to have a different conversation.

He followed her lead

and within a few weeks,

they found all of these things
they have in common,

like a love for Japanese anime.

After three semesters,

Michelle is a straight-A student
thriving in the university.

At this point, Briana starts
to share some of the data

that less than 20 percent
of the students with autism

are graduating.

And it’s not because
they can’t handle the coursework.

It’s because they can’t figure out

how to navigate the university,

the very thing an adviser
is supposed to be able to help you do.

That over the course of a lifetime

the earning potential of someone
with a college degree

over a high school degree

is a million dollars.

Which is a big amount.

But for a person with autism

that wants to be able
to live independent from their family

it’s life changing.

She closed with,

“We say our whole passion and purpose

is to help people be their best,

to help them be successful.

But we’re hardly giving our best service

by applying this
one-size-fits-all approach

and just letting people
fall through the cracks.

We can and we should do better.

There are more Michelles out there,

and I know because
Michelle is my daughter.”

And in that moment,
the jaws in the room went –

And someone even wiped away tears,

because she had done it,

she had connected them
to information differently,

she helped them see something
they couldn’t unsee.

Could she have done that with data alone?

Maybe, but the things is,
they already had the data.

They didn’t have a reason
not to overlook the data this time.

That is the power
of storytelling and data.

That together, they come
together in this way

to help build ideas,

to help you see things you can’t unsee.

To help communicate what’s valued

and to help tap into
that emotional way that we all decide.

As you all move forward,

shaping the passion and purpose
of others as leaders,

don’t just use data.

Use stories.

And don’t wait for the perfect story.

Take your story and make it perfect.

Thank you.

(Applause)

抄写员:Ivana Korom
审稿人:Joanna Pietrulewicz

Maria 在工作中走进电梯。

当她的手机从她手中滑落时,她去按下按钮。

它在地板上弹了起来,然后——

直接从电梯和地板之间的那个小洞口掉了下来

她意识到这不仅仅是她的手机,还有

她的手机钱包
,里面有她的驾照,

她的信用卡,她的一生。

她去
前台和保安雷说话。

雷看到她真的很开心。

玛丽亚是少数

每天都会停下来和他打招呼的人之一。

事实上,她是这些人中的一员
,知道你的生日

、你最喜欢的食物
、你的最后一个假期,

并不是因为她很奇怪,

她只是真的喜欢人们
,喜欢让他们感到被看到。

她告诉雷发生了什么事

,他说

要拿回她的电话至少要花 500 美元,

当她回到她的办公桌时,他去拿报价。

二十分钟后,
他打电话给她,他说:“玛丽亚,

我在看电梯的检验
证书,

实际上是
下个月的年检。


今天继续打电话给

我们,我们” 可以拿回你的手机
,而且不会花你任何钱。”

发生这种情况的同一天,

我读到了一篇
关于嘉信理财首席执行官沃尔特·贝廷格的文章。

他正在描述他在大学的全优
职业生涯,

进入他的最后一次考试,
希望能取得好成绩,

这时教授提出了一个问题:

“打扫这个房间的人叫什么名字
?”

而且他考试不及格。

他见过她,
但从未见过她。

她的名字叫多蒂
,那天他发誓

要永远了解他生命中的多蒂,

因为沃尔特和玛丽亚都

明白
这种帮助人们感到被关注的力量,

尤其是作为领导者。

当我在通用电气工作时,我用过这个故事

我负责在 150 个国家/地区
拥有 90,000 名员工的企业塑造文化

我发现故事
是一种很好

的与人们联系的方式

,让他们思考,

“在这种情况下我会怎么做

?我会认识

Dottie 或者
我一生中需要认识的 Dottie 吗?”

我发现,无论人们的性别
、他们的世代

或他们在世界上的地理位置,

这些故事都会引起共鸣并奏效。

但在我与领导者的合作中,

我也发现他们
往往对讲故事过敏。

他们不确定在哪里可以找到他们,

或者他们不确定如何告诉他们,

或者他们认为他们必须提供数据

并且
没有空间来讲述故事。

这就是我今天要重点关注的地方。

因为讲故事和
数据实际上不是这个非此即彼的。

这是一个“和”,他们实际上
创造了这首以不同

方式将您与信息联系起来的力量民谣

要了解如何,

我们必须首先
了解当你听故事和数据时神经系统会发生什么

所以当你在演讲
或开会时,

你大脑的两个小部分
被激活,

Wernicke 和 Broca 区域。

这是你
处理信息的地方

,这也是为什么你在听到
它后往往会忘记 50% 的信息

当你听一个故事时,

你的整个大脑开始发光。

当你的感官和
情绪投入其中时,你的每个肺叶都会亮起来。

当我谈到手机掉下来
并砰地一声撞到地上时,

你的枕骨和颞
叶会亮起来

,就好像你真的
看到那部坠落的手机

并听到它砰地一声击中一样。

有一个术语,神经耦合,

它说,作为听众,

你的大脑会

像讲故事的人一样发光。

它反映了这种活动

,就好像您实际上正在
经历这些事情一样。

讲故事给你
这个人造的现实。

如果我和你谈起,比如,
在雪地里行走

,每走一步

,雪在我的鞋底下嘎吱作响

,大而潮湿的
雪花落在我的脸颊上,

你的大脑现在亮起来

,就好像你在穿过雪地一样 雪
和经历这些事情。

这就是为什么你可以坐在动作片中一

动不动,

但你的心脏在跳动,
就好像你是银幕上的明星一样,

因为这种神经耦合
让你的大脑亮起来

,就好像你在进行那种活动一样。

当你听故事时,

你会自然而然地
对讲故事的人产生同理心。

您体验到的同理心越多

,大脑中释放的催产素就越多。

催产素是一种让人感觉良好的化学物质

,你拥有的催产素

越多,
你对演讲者的看法就越值得信赖。

这就是为什么讲故事
对于领导者来说是一项如此重要的技能,

因为讲故事的行为

会让人们更加信任你。

当您开始收听数据时,
会发生一些不同的事情。

有一些误解
需要理解。

首先是数据
不会改变我们的行为,

情绪会。

如果数据改变了我们的行为,

我们都会睡八小时
,每天锻炼,使用牙线

,喝八杯水。

但这不是我们实际决定的方式。

神经科学家研究了
决策

,它始于我们的杏仁核。

这是我们的情绪中心

,我们有
能力体验情绪

,它是在潜意识
层面开始决定的。

我们做出选择是为了追求快乐

还是为了避免风险,

这一切都在我们意识到之前。

当我们意识到,

在意识层面,

我们开始应用
合理化和逻辑,

这就是为什么我们认为我们正在做出
这些基于理性的决定,

而没有意识到它们
已经在我们的潜意识中决定了。

Antonio Damasio 是一位神经科学家

,他开始研究
杏仁核受损的患者。 除了他们无法体验情感之外

,在各个方面都充分发挥作用

结果,
他们无法做出决定。


“我要走这条路还是这条路”这样简单

的事情

他们是做不到的,因为他们无法
体验情绪。

这些
人在杏仁核

受损之前取得了巨大的成功

,现在他们无法完成
任何项目

,他们的职业生涯受到重创,

这一切都是因为他们无法
在我们决定的地方体验情绪。

另一个数据误解。

数据永远不会为自己说话。

我们的大脑喜欢预测

,正如我们所预料的那样,

我们

用我们自己的知识和经验

以及我们自己的偏见来填补我们所看到或听到的内容的空白。

这意味着我对数据的理解
将与你的不同

,它也会与你的不同,

因为如果没有办法指导我们,我们都会有
自己的解释

现在我并不是
说数据不好而故事好。

他们都发挥着关键作用。

为了理解如何,

你必须看看是什么造就了一个伟大的故事。

它将回答三个问题。

第一个是:

上下文是什么?

意思是,设置是什么,
涉及谁,

我为什么还要关心?

冲突是什么

,一切都改变的那一刻在哪里?

结果是什么?

有什么不同,有
什么收获?

一个好故事也有三个属性

,第一是它会建立
和释放紧张感。

所以因为我们的大脑喜欢预测,

一个伟大的故事会
通过让你想知道:

“她要去哪里?”

“接下来会发生什么,”对吧?

一个好的故事可以让你
保持注意力,让你的注意力持续下去。


通过分享一些意想不到的东西来释放

它,并且在整个故事中一遍又一遍地这样做

一个伟大的故事也建立一个想法。

它可以帮助你看到一些你再也看不到的
东西,

让你改变,

因为故事
确实让你改变了。

一个伟大的故事传达了价值。

斯坦福大学研究
了塑造组织文化的最佳方法之一

,那就是讲故事,

因为它会展示
你重视和鼓励

什么,或者你不
重视什么以及不鼓励什么。

当你开始写你的力量民谣时,

大多数人都想从数据开始。

他们想深入挖掘,

因为我们经常有成堆的数据。

但是
当我们这样做时,我们会犯一个常见的错误。

我和一位CEO一起工作。

她来找我
为她的年度全公司会议做准备

,她有 45 张数据幻灯片

用于 45 分钟的演示。

无聊、难忘的谈话的秘诀。

这就是大多数人所做的,

他们拥有所有这些数据

,他们试图在

没有大局的情况下进行分类

,然后他们就迷失了方向。

我们实际上把数据放在一边
,我问她,


你想解决

什么问题?你希望人们
有什么不同的想法和感受

,最后你希望
人们做些什么不同的事情?”

这就是您
从数据和讲故事开始的地方。

您提出这个框架
来指导

故事和数据的方式。

就她而言,

她希望她的公司
能够打入新市场

,保持竞争力。

她最后讲了一个
关于她女儿的故事,

她是一名体操运动员,正在
争夺奖学金

,她不得不学习新的套路
,难度越来越大,

以保持竞争力。

这是您的选择之一。

你是讲一个关于数据本身的

故事,还是讲一个平行的故事,

从故事中提取要点
来强化数据?

当您开始这首民谣时,

这种旋律与数据
和讲故事的和谐

以一种将在
很久之后与您同在的方式结合在一起。

布里安娜是一名大学顾问。

当她意识到他们的大量自闭症学生没有毕业时,她被要求
向她的大学领导介绍

她来找我是因为
她的领导一直在说,

“展示数据,专注于数据”,

但她觉得大学官员
已经掌握了数据。

她试图弄清楚
如何帮助他们与之建立联系。

所以我们一起帮助她
讲述了关于米歇尔的故事。

米歇尔是一名高中生

,有着
上大学的梦想。

米歇尔也是一名患有自闭症的学生,

她害怕自己如何应对

大学的变化。

在她与顾问的第一次电话中,她最担心的事情发生

了,

当时他问她这样的问题,

“五年后你觉得自己在哪里?”

和“你的职业抱负是什么?”

对任何人来说都很难的问题。

但是对于一个患有自闭症的人来说,

必须口头回应吗?

瘫痪。

她挂断电话
,准备退学,

直到她的父母坐下

来帮她写一封电子邮件
给她的顾问。

她告诉他,她是
一名患有自闭症的学生,

这对她来说真的很难分享,

因为她觉得
仅仅分享它就有一种耻辱感。

她告诉他,她更
喜欢书面交流,

如果他能提前给她发问题,

她就可以

在他们打电话之前
给他回信,进行不同的谈话。

他跟随她的脚步

,在几周内,

他们发现了所有这些
共同点,

比如对日本动漫的热爱。

三个学期后,

米歇尔是一名
在大学里茁壮成长的全优生。

此时,Briana
开始分享一些数据

,即只有不到 20%
的自闭症

学生毕业。

这并不是因为
他们无法处理课程作业。

这是因为他们不知道

如何驾驭大学,


顾问应该能够帮助你做的事情。

在一生的过程中,一个

拥有大学学位

超过高中学位的人的收入潜力

是一百万美元。

这是一个很大的数额。

但对于一个

希望能够
独立于家人生活的自闭症患者

来说,生活正在改变。

最后说:“我们说我们的全部热情和目的

是帮助人们做到最好

,帮助他们取得成功。

但我们并没有

通过应用这种
一刀切的方法来提供最好的服务

,只是让人们
从裂缝中掉下来。

我们可以而且我们应该做得更好。

那里有更多的米歇尔

,我知道,因为
米歇尔是我的女儿。

在那一刻,
房间里的下巴都

掉了——有人甚至擦去了眼泪,

因为她做到了,


以不同的方式将他们与信息联系起来,

她帮助他们看到了
他们无法忽视的东西。

她能单独用数据做到这一点吗?

也许吧,但事实是,
他们已经有了数据。 这次

他们没有理由
不忽略数据。

这就是
讲故事和数据的力量。

他们
一起,以这种方式聚集在一起,

帮助建立想法

,帮助你看到你看不到的东西。

帮助传达有价值的东西,

并帮助利用
我们都决定的那种情感方式。

当你们都向前迈进时,

塑造
他人作为领导者的热情和目标,

不要只使用数据。

使用故事。

不要等待完美的故事。

让你的故事变得完美。

谢谢你。

(掌声)