Embracing Death Life Through A Different Lens

Transcriber: Mai Hưng
Reviewer: 한솜 이

Theresa lived every day
the best she could.

She never knocked on wood.

She loved her family to pieces
Almost as much as she loved Reese`s.

When I was teaching business management
leadership at Central College in Pella,

Iowa, my students started
calling me Dr. Death.

Now, what does that have
to do with leadership?

I probably talked about death,
dying and grief too much.

I started a research project where I
interviewed more than one hundred of

the top thought leaders, experts, gurus
in the field of leadership.

These were people, authors, experts,
practitioners, professors,

people really at the top of the field.

And what I wanted to know is how
can I prepare my students to be

the best leaders possible.

Now, there were several
themes that emerged,

but one in particular was a big surprise,

and that was I should be teaching my
students about death, dying and grief.

Now, again, what does that have
to do with leadership?

Well, this was about 2007-2008

during the financial crisis. And they
explained to me that industries are dying,

companies are disappearing and jobs are
evaporating and people are experiencing

a lot of loss and a lot of grief. And all
of these losses are like many deaths.

Now, fast forward to the pandemic and
all of this is magnified again,

the industries are dying and
companies are disappearing

and people are losing jobs again.

We’re also experiencing physical death
when we were getting death counts daily

by country, by state by city.

And again, the research says that one out
of five of us have lost someone we

love to covid. So how do
I learn, you know,

what do I do with all this information?

Well, there is evidence that people
want to know about this.

These topics, such as on The New
York Times bestseller list,

the last couple of years, books such as

Being Mortal and When
Breath Becomes Air,

both of those written by doctors
about death and dying and

the quality of life at the end of life.

Then we have Joan Didion’s book,
A Year of Magical Thinking.

Joe, did Joan Didion, a well known writer,
it was also made into a Broadway play.

And that book is about the year after
her husband who died so suddenly

and how she was processing that grief.

I also discovered in my research Ellen
Goodman, former New York Times columnist,

she created a not for profit called The
Conversation Project when her parents

were dying. She realized that there really
she didn’t have any resources,

that she wanted to have conversations.
She didn’t know how to start it.

No one wanted to talk about it.

So therefore, she created this called The
Conversation Project, and on her website,

you can even download a conversation
starter for free.

I discovered Jon Underwood in the U.K. ,
he created what he calls death cafes,

and I encourage all of you to
Google death cafes, dotcom,

because now they’re all over the world.
They’re not a therapy group.

It’s not a support group, but it’s people
who gather just to learn about death

and dying and grief from each other. I’ve
even attended a death cafe in Des Moines.

Now, the past year, they’ve been on Zoome.

But as I said, they’re
all over the world.

She also loved

her cats, if only they didn’t lie
around like big furry mats,

one of her best friends was her mother.

Theresa loved her and would
never ask for another.

So most people don’t want
to talk about death.

They don’t even want to think about it.
How am I going to teach about it?

David Brooks in his book
A Road to Character,

he talks about resuming virtues versus
eulogy virtues. resume virtues

are those things that you
would put on a resume.

They focus on doing what have you done?
What have you accomplished?

What awards have you received?
What boards are you on?

Eulogy virtues are those things that
someone might talk about at your funeral

or a celebration of life? They
focus on being your character,

what kind of person you were.

So I want to teach my students
about eulogy virtues.

so one of the things that I did is

I have them read some of my favorite
eulogies. Now I have a collection.

I collect eulogies. I mean,
doesn’t everybody?

But again, I’m known as Dr. Death,
so I have a collection.

If I go to a funeral and I like the eulogy
I asked for a copy.

I also have students watch Tim Russert
memorial service. now Tim Russert was

the face of NBC’s Meet the Press
for years and he was beloved.

In fact, people described him

as we invited him into our
living room every Sunday

because he was that familiar with them.

Tim Russert died suddenly
in two thousand eight.

And at that time, NBC had four days of
coverage of remembering Tim Russert.

And over these four days, people were
talking about Tim, what Tim was like.

They mentioned something
about what he did,

but they were really talking about who Tim
was as a person, his eulogy virtues

What was he like?
What was his character?

And at the time, there was criticism like
who really gets four days of coverage

when they die on television? Unless
maybe you’re president?

But Peggy Noonan in The Wall Street
Journal wrote an article and said,

“I don’t think it’s excessive, young
people need role models.

And Tim Russert was beloved and he was a
perfect role model of a life well lived.”

I also have my students read the
book Tuesdays with Morrie.

Now, that’s a classic and professors love
that book because it’s based on

a true story where Mitch Albom discovers
that his favorite professor Morrie is

dying of ALS. So he goes to reconnect
and goes to talk with them.

And the conversation is so rich that
he decides to go back every Tuesday

and it becomes Tuesdays
with Morrie the book.

But their conversation, without
using the words resume virtues

and eulogy virtues, the conversation
really is all about life. moreas teaching

them about how to have a meaningful life.
They talk about death, dying,

They talk about marriage, love, success,
competition.

But in the end, it’s really
about the meaning of life,

and that’s really what I’m trying to
teach my students, not about death,

but about the meaning of life.

Teresa seemed to always be hungry when she
didn’t get fed, she would get cranky.

her favorite wine was edelweiss. She was
always a good person to go to for advice.

So in the process of teaching my students
about the meaning of life, Victor Frankl,

a Holocaust survivor and author of a
classic book, Man’s Search for Meaning,

talks about that the last freedom to
really be taken from us is our freedom of

choice, our attitude, how we
respond to a situation.

And so I’m trying to teach the students
that life is really about decisions

and decisions have consequences.

And all of these decisions and
consequences add up to be your life.

So I created a eulogy assignment and I
introduce it at the beginning of class.

But the students know they’re not going
to do it until the end of class.

And they’re really only two rules, one,
that it’s mandatory and two

that they know they know they’re
going to share it.

Now, I introduce it early, and when I do
introduce it, they’re like, I you know,

I understand this.
What’s the whole point?

But by the time we’ve done the eulogies
and the Tuesdays with Morrie,

they are connecting the dots.

And I relate it back to there’s a lot
of grief going on in the world

and particularly in the workplace.

And if leaders don’t understand
our own coping mechanisms,

how can we help others through these
kinds of stressful situations?

Again, I said there are no rules,
it’s just mandatory,

they have to share it because I want
to I want to create a sacred space.

a safe space for them to share
something so intimate.

There’s no right or wrong, no good
or bad. There’s no link.

There’s no word count.
it’s not a graded.

It’s very creative, it’s been very
meaningful, some put it to music,

some put it to poetry,
but it’s usually very

a touching and a very good exercise

One student came in and he had his guitar
and he started singing his eulogy to

the class. Another student,
she played basketball.

So she used basketball as her metaphor

And she talked about the four
quarters of her life and

the office that she had had along the way.

People had helped her and the
points that she had made.

Another student loved shoes. So she talked
about shoes. That was her lens.

And she talked about where she’d been,

where she was going and where
she had hoped to go.

But the one that really sticks in my mind
that I want to share with you is

It was a football player, probably two
hundred and forty pounds, six four.

The room was full and it Central College,
a classroom of 30 is full.

We were sitting in a big circle.

He stands up to give his eulogy and he
was so choked up he could not do it.

The student next to him leaned
over and said, you know,

are you OK if I would read this for you?
And he said, “that would be great.”

And she read it and you
could hear a pin drop.

I was so proud of the class, everybody
was so respectful,

but it was also a good example
of compassion and empathy

and those are also leadership skills
that I’m trying to teach.

Now, I have presented this research at
academic conferences over the years as

a research evolved and I always have
faculty members ask me now you do this

exercise with twenty to twenty two
year olds. How does that go over?

And my response is always it
goes over really well,

millennials are the purpose generation.

They want to live a life
of purpose and meaning

and I’m trying to help them find that.

And I also say the real purpose of

the exercise is if that’s how
they want to be remembered.

They need to start living their
life like that right now

and the sooner they understand that,
the better.

Teresa took a nap almost every day, but
she didn’t waste her life away.

She believed naps could cure anything,
or if they didn’t,

she would just dance and sing.

She stood up for what she believed in

and knew that who she was
came from within.

You’ve just been listening to
Theresa give her own eulogy.

That she wrote in my class
when she was twenty one,

now she’s thirty two and she
has three little kids.

So when I called her to ask if I could
share her eulogy with you, she said, Oh,

absolutely. And then when I
called her again to say,

would you actually record that so that I
can share your voice with my audience?

She said, Oh, sure. And she said,
you know, naps are still important.

And she said, we if we have a bad day,
we dance the day away.

Now, as I said, my students
call me Dr. Death.

I plan my funeral the way others
plan weddings and parties.

In fact, my husband has even said, “don’t
worry, it will be a nice funeral.

You can stop planning it. OK,”

but the whole idea is if we think about
how we want to be remembered,

I think it can be a daily guide
for how we live our life now.

I encourage all of you to think
about your eulogy virtues

and even go write your eulogy and share
it with someone and ask yourself,

is that how I’m living my life?

Am I living my life in a way that
I want to be remembered?

Because when we do when we embrace death,
we see life through a different lens.

Thank you.

抄写员:Mai Hưng
审稿人:한솜 이

Theresa 每天都过着
最好的生活。

她从不敲木头。

她爱她的家人
几乎就像她爱里斯的家人一样。

当我
在爱荷华州佩拉的中央学院教授商业管理领导力时

,我的学生开始
称我为“死亡博士”。

现在,这
与领导力有什么关系?

我可能过多地谈论死亡、
垂死和悲伤。

我开始了一个研究项目,
采访了领导力领域的一百多位

顶级思想领袖、专家和大师

这些人,作者,专家,
从业者,教授

,真正处于该领域顶端的人。

我想知道的是,
我怎样才能让我的学生

成为最好的领导者。

现在,出现了几个
主题,

但特别是一个让我大吃一惊的主题

,那就是我应该教我的
学生关于死亡、垂死和悲伤的知识。

现在,再次,这
与领导力有什么关系?

嗯,这大约

是金融危机期间的 2007-2008 年。 他们
向我解释说,行业正在消亡,

公司正在消失,工作正在
消失,人们正在

经历很多损失和悲伤。
所有这些损失就像许多人死亡一样。

现在,快进到大流行,
所有这一切再次被放大

,行业正在消亡,
公司正在消失

,人们再次失去工作。

当我们每天按国家、按州按城市统计死亡人数时,我们也在经历身体上的死亡

再一次,研究表明,
我们当中有五分之一的人失去了我们所

爱的人。 那么
我该如何学习,你知道,

我该如何处理所有这些信息?

嗯,有证据表明人们
想知道这一点。

这些主题,例如最近几年在《
纽约时报》畅销书排行榜

上的书籍,例如《

成为凡人》和《当
呼吸成为空气》,

这两本书都是医生写的
关于死亡和垂死以及

临终时的生活质量的书 .

然后是琼·迪迪翁(Joan Didion)的书
《神奇思维的一年》。

乔,著名作家琼·迪迪翁(Joan Didion),
也被拍成百老汇戏剧。

那本书是关于
她丈夫突然去世的第二年

,以及她如何处理这种悲伤。

我还在我的研究中发现
,前纽约时报专栏作家艾伦·古德曼 (Ellen Goodman) 在

她父母去世时创建了一个名为 The
Conversation Project 的非营利组织

。 她意识到
她真的没有任何资源

,她想进行对话。
她不知道如何开始。

没有人愿意谈论它。

因此,她创建了这个名为 The
Conversation Project 的项目,在她的网站上,

您甚至可以免费下载对话
启动器。

我在英国发现了 Jon Underwood,
他创建了他所谓的死亡咖啡馆

,我鼓励你们所有人
谷歌死亡咖啡馆,dotcom,

因为现在它们遍布世界各地。
他们不是一个治疗组。

这不是一个支持小组,而是
人们聚集在一起,只是为了了解

彼此的死亡、垂死和悲伤。 我
什至去过得梅因的一家死亡咖啡馆。

现在,在过去的一年里,他们一直在 Zoome 上。

但正如我所说,它们
遍布世界各地。

她也很爱

她的猫,只要它们
不像毛茸茸的大垫子那样躺着

,她最好的朋友之一就是她的母亲。

特蕾莎爱她,
永远不会要求另一个。

所以大多数人
不想谈论死亡。

他们甚至不想去想。
我要怎么教呢?

大卫布鲁克斯在他的《
性格之路》一书中

谈到了恢复美德与
悼词美德。 简历美德

是那些你
会放在简历上的东西。

他们专注于做你做了什么?
你完成了什么?

你获得了哪些奖项?
你在什么板上?

悼词美德是
有人可能在你的葬礼

或生命庆典上谈论的那些事情? 他们
专注于成为你的角色,

你是什么样的人。

所以我想教我的学生
关于悼词美德。

所以我做的一件事就是

让他们读一些我最喜欢的
悼词。 现在我有一个收藏。

我收集悼词。 我的意思是,
不是每个人吗?

但同样,我被称为死亡博士,
所以我有一个收藏。

如果我去参加葬礼,并且我喜欢悼词,
我会索要一份。

我也让学生观看蒂姆·拉塞特的
追悼会。 现在蒂姆·拉塞特多年来一直

是 NBC 的 Meet the Press 的代言人
,他深受喜爱。

事实上,

当我们每周日邀请他到我们的
客厅时,人们形容他是

因为他对他们非常熟悉。

蒂姆·拉塞特在 2008 年突然去世

那时,NBC 进行了四天
的纪念蒂姆·拉塞特的报道。

在这四天里,人们都
在谈论蒂姆,蒂姆是什么样的。

他们提到了一些
关于他所做的事情,

但他们实际上是在谈论
蒂姆作为一个人,他的悼词美德

他是什么样的?
他的性格是什么?

当时,有人批评说
,当他们死在电视上时,谁真正得到了四天的报道


除非你是总统?

但《华尔街日报》的佩吉·努南(Peggy Noonan)
写了一篇文章说:

“我认为这并不过分,
年轻人需要榜样。

Tim Russert 深受喜爱,他
是美好生活的完美榜样。”

我也让我的学生在
星期二和莫里一起阅读这本书。

现在,这是一本经典之作,教授们喜欢
这本书,因为它基于

一个真实的故事,米奇·阿尔博姆
发现他最喜欢的莫里教授

死于 ALS。 所以他去重新连接
并与他们交谈。

谈话内容如此丰富,以至于
他决定每周二回去

,然后就变成了周二
和莫里的书。

但他们的谈话,
不用简历美德

和悼词美德的话,谈话
真的是关于生活的。 更重要的是教

他们如何过上有意义的生活。
他们谈论死亡,死亡,

他们谈论婚姻,爱情,成功,
竞争。

但归根结底,这真的是
关于生命的意义

,这就是我真正想
教给我的学生的东西,不是关于死亡,

而是关于生命的意义。

特蕾莎似乎总是在没吃饱的时候很饿
,她会变得暴躁。

她最喜欢的酒是雪绒花。 她
总是一个很好的人去寻求建议。

因此,在向我的学生传授
生命意义的过程中,

大屠杀幸存者、
经典著作《人类寻找意义》的作者维克多·弗兰克尔

谈到,
真正被剥夺的最后一个自由是我们的

选择自由, 我们的态度,我们如何
应对情况。

所以我试图告诉学生
,生活真的是关于决定

,决定会产生后果。

所有这些决定和
后果加起来就是你的生活。

所以我创建了一个悼词作业,并
在课程开始时介绍它。

但是学生们知道他们要
等到下课后才会这样做。

它们实际上只有两条规则,一条
是强制性的,两条

是他们知道他们知道他们
会分享它。

现在,我提前介绍了它,当我
介绍它时,他们就像,我知道,

我明白这一点。
重点是什么?

但是当我们
和莫里一起完成悼词和星期二的时候,

他们正在把这些点联系起来。

我将其与世界上发生的很多悲伤联系起来

,尤其是在工作场所。

如果领导者不了解
我们自己的应对机制,

我们如何帮助他人度过
这些压力情境?

再次,我说没有规则
,只是强制性的,

他们必须分享它,因为我
想我想创造一个神圣的空间。

一个安全的空间让他们分享
如此亲密的事物。

没有对与错,没有
好坏之分。 没有链接。

没有字数。
这不是分级的。

很有创意,
很有意义,有人把它放在音乐上,

有人把它放在诗歌里,
但这通常

是一个非常感人的很好的练习

一个学生进来了,他拿着吉他
,开始为全班唱悼词

. 另一个学生,
她打篮球。

所以她用篮球作为她的

比喻,她谈到
了她生命中的四个季度和

她一路走来的办公室。

人们帮助了她和
她提出的观点。

另一个学生喜欢鞋子。 所以她
谈到了鞋子。 那是她的镜头。

她谈到了她去过的

地方,她要去的地方以及
她希望去的地方。


我想与你分享的真正让我印象深刻的是

这是一名足球运动员,可能是
240 磅 6 4 磅。

房间满了,它是中央学院,
一个30人的教室已经满了。

我们坐在一个大圈子里。

他站起来致悼词,他
被噎住了,无法做到。

他旁边的学生
俯身说,你知道,

如果我给你读这个,你可以吗?
他说,“那太好了。”

她读了它,你
可以听到一根针掉下来的声音。

我为这门课感到非常自豪,每个人
都非常尊重,

但这也是
同情和同理心的一个很好的例子

,这些也是
我正在努力教授的领导技能。

现在,随着研究的发展,多年来我在学术会议上介绍了这项研究,

我总是有
教职员工问我现在你

对 20 到 22
岁的孩子做这个练习。 那怎么过去?

我的回答总是
非常顺利,

千禧一代是有目标的一代。

他们想要过有
目的和有意义的生活

,我正在努力帮助他们找到这一点。

我还说练习的真正目的

是如果
他们希望这样被记住。

他们现在就需要开始这样的生活

,他们越早明白这
一点越好。

特蕾莎几乎每天都打盹,但
她并没有浪费生命。

她相信小睡可以治愈任何事情,
或者如果他们没有,

她会跳舞和唱歌。

她坚持自己的信仰,

并且知道她是谁
来自内心。

你刚才一直在听
特蕾莎给她自己的悼词。

她二十一岁时在我班上写的

现在她三十二岁了,她
有三个小孩。

所以当我打电话给她问我是否可以
和你分享她的悼词时,她说,哦,

当然。 然后当我
再次打电话给她说

,你真的会记录下来,以便我
可以与我的听众分享你的声音吗?

她说,哦,当然。 她说,
你知道,小睡仍然很重要。

她说,如果我们有糟糕的一天,
我们会跳舞。

现在,正如我所说,我的学生
称我为死亡博士。

我计划我的葬礼就像其他人
计划婚礼和派对一样。

事实上,我丈夫甚至说,“别
担心,这将是一场美好的葬礼。

你可以停止计划。 好的,”

但整个想法是,如果我们考虑
我们希望如何被记住,

我认为它可以成为
我们现在如何生活的日常指南。

我鼓励大家
思考自己的悼词美德

,甚至去写悼词并
与他人分享并问自己

,这就是我的生活吗?

我是否以一种我想要被记住的方式过着我的生活

因为当我们拥抱死亡时,
我们会通过不同的视角看待生命。

谢谢你。