Lessons from death row inmates David R. Dow

two weeks ago I was sitting at the

kitchen table with my wife Katya and we

were talking about what I was going to

talk about today we have an 11 year old

son his name is Lincoln he was sitting

at the same table doing his math

homework and during a pause in my

conversation with Katya I looked over at

Lincoln and I was suddenly thunderstruck

by a recollection of a client of mine my

client was a guy named Will he was from

North Texas he never knew his father

very well because his father left his

mom while she was pregnant with him and

so he was destined to be raised by a

single mom which might have been alright

except that this particular single mom

was a paranoid schizophrenic and when

will was five years old she tried to

kill him with a butcher knife she was

taken away by authorities and placed in

a psychiatric hospital and so for the

next several years will lived with his

older brother until he committed suicide

by shooting himself through the heart

and after that will bounced around from

one family member to another until by

the time he was nine years old he was

essentially living on his own that

morning that I was sitting with kotti

and Lincoln I looked at my son and I

realized that when my client will was

his age he’d been living by himself for

two years we’ll eventually joined the

gang and committed a number of very

serious crimes including most seriously

of all a horrible tragic murder and will

was ultimately executed as punishment

for that crime but I don’t want to

talk today about the morality of capital

punishment I certainly think that my

client shouldn’t have been executed but

what I would like to do today instead is

talk about the death penalty in a way

I’ve never done before

in a way that is entirely

non-controversial I think that’s

possible because there is a corner of

the death penalty debate maybe the most

important corner where everybody agrees

where the most ardent death penalty

supporters and the most vociferous

abolitionists are on exactly the same

page that’s the corner I want to explore

before I do that though I want to spend

a couple of minutes telling you how a

death penalty case unfolds and then I

want to tell you two lessons that I have

learned over the last 20 years as a

death penalty lawyer from watching well

more than a hundred cases unfolding this

way you can think of a death penalty

case as a story that has four chapters

the first chapter of every case is

exactly the same and it is tragic it

begins with the murder of an innocent

human being and it’s followed by a trial

where the murderer is convicted and sent

to death row and that death sentence is

ultimately upheld by the state appellate

court the second chapter consists of a

complicated legal proceeding known as a

state habeas corpus appeal the third

chapter is an even more complicated

legal proceeding known as a federal

habeas corpus proceeding and the fourth

chapter is one where a variety of things

can happen

the lawyers might file a clemency

petition they might initiate even more

complex litigation or they might not do

anything at all but that fourth chapter

always ends with an execution when I

started representing death row inmates

more than 20 years ago people on death

row did not have a right to a lawyer in

either the second or the fourth chapter

of this story they were on their own in

fact it wasn’t until the late 1980

that they acquired a right to a lawyer

during the third chapter of the story so

what all of these death row inmates had

to do was rely on volunteer lawyers to

handle their legal proceedings the

problem is that there were way more guys

on death row than there were lawyers who

had both the interest and the expertise

to work on these cases and so inevitably

lawyers drifted to cases that were

already in Chapter four that makes sense

of course those are the cases that are

most urgent those are the guys who are

closest to being executed some of these

lawyers were successful they managed to

get new trials for their clients others

of them managed to extend the lives of

their clients sometimes by years

sometimes by months but the one thing

that didn’t happen was that there was

never a serious and sustained decline in

the number of annual executions in Texas

in fact as you can see from this graph

from the time that the Texas execution

apparatus got efficient in the mid to

late 1990s there have only been a couple

of years where the number of annual

executions dipped below 20 in a typical

year in Texas we’re averaging about two

people a month in some years in Texas

we’ve executed close to 40 people and

this number has never significantly

declined over the last 15 years and yet

at the same time that we continue to

execute about the same number of people

every year the number of people who were

sentencing to death on an annual basis

has dropped rather steeply so we have

this paradox which is that the number of

annual executions has remained high but

the number of new death sentences has

gone down why is that it can be

attributed to a decline in the murder

rate because the murder rate has not

declined nearly so steeply as the red

line on that graph has gone down what

has happened instead is that juries have

started to sentence more and more people

to prison for the rest of their lives

without the possibility of parole rather

than sending them to the execution

chamber why is that happened it hasn’t

happened because of a dissolution of

popular

support for the death penalty death

penalty opponents take great solace in

the fact the death penalty support in

Texas is at an all-time low do you know

what all-time low in Texas means it

means that it’s in the low 60% now

that’s really good compared to the

mid-1980s when it was in excess of 80

percent but we can’t explain the decline

in death sentences and the affinity for

life without the possibility of parole

by an erosion of support for the death

penalty because people still support the

death penalty what’s happened to cause

this phenomenon what’s happened is that

lawyers who represent death row inmates

have shifted their focus to earlier and

earlier chapters of the death penalty

story so 25 years ago they focused on

chapter four and they went from chapter

four 25 years ago to chapter three in

the late 1980s and they went from

chapter 3 in the late 1980s to chapter 2

in the mid 1990s and beginning in the

mid to late 1990s they began to focus on

chapter 1 of the story

now you might think that this decline in

death sentences and the increase in the

number of life sentences is a good thing

or a bad thing I don’t want to have a

conversation about that today all that I

want to tell you is that the reason that

this has happened is because death

penalty lawyers have understood that the

earlier you intervene in a case the

greater the likelihood that you’re going

to save your clients life that’s the

first thing I’ve learned here’s the

second thing I learned my client will

was not the exception to the rule

he was the rule I sometimes say if you

tell me the name of a death row inmate

doesn’t matter what state he’s in

doesn’t matter if I’ve ever met him

before I’ll write his biography for you

and eight out of ten times the details

of that biography will be more or less

accurate and the reason for that is that

80% of the people on death row are

people who came from the same sort of

dysfunctional family that will did 80%

of the people on death row are people

who had exposure to the juvenile justice

system that’s the second lesson that

I’ve learned

now we’re right on the cusp of that

corner where everybody is going to agree

people in this room might disagree about

whether will should have been executed

but I think everybody would agree that

the best best possible version of his

story would be a story where no murder

ever occurs how do we do that when our

son Lincoln was working on that math

problem two weeks ago it was a big

gnarly problem and he was learning how

when you have a big old gnarly problem

sometimes the solution is to slice it

into smaller problems that’s what we do

for most problems in math and physics

even in Social Policy we slice them into

smaller more manageable problems but

every once in a while as Dwight

Eisenhower said the way you solve a

problem is to make it bigger the way we

solve this problem is to make the issue

of the death penalty bigger we have to

say all right we have these four

chapters of a death penalty story but

what happens before that story begins

how can we intervene in the life of a

murderer before he’s a murderer what

options do we have to nudge that person

off of the path that is going to lead to

a result that everybody death penalty

supporters and death penalty opponents

still think is a bad result the murder

of an innocent human being you know

sometimes people say that something

isn’t rocket science and by that what

they mean is rocket science is really

complicated and this problem that we’re

talking about now is really simple well

that’s rocket science that’s the

mathematical expression for the thrust

created by a rocket what we’re talking

about today is just as complicated what

we’re talking about today is also rocket

science my client will and 80%

of the people on death row had five

chapters in their lives that came before

the four chapters of the death penalty

story I think of these five chapters as

points of intervention places in their

lives when our society could have

intervened in their lives and nudged

them off of the path that they were on

that created a consequence that we all

death penalty supporters or death

penalty opponents say was a bad result

now during each of these five chapters

when his mother was pregnant with him in

his early childhood years when he was in

elementary school when he was middle

school and then high school and when he

was in the juvenile justice system

during each of those five chapters there

were a wide variety of things that

society could have done in fact if we

just imagine that there are five

different modes of intervention the way

that society could intervene in each of

those five chapters and we could mix and

match them any way we want there are

3,000 more than 3,000 possible

strategies that we could embrace in

order to nudge kids like will off of the

path that they’re on so I’m not standing

here today with the solution but the

fact that we still have a lot to learn

that doesn’t mean that we don’t know a

lot already we know from experience in

other states that there are a wide

variety of modes of intervention that we

could be using in Texas and in every

other state that isn’t using them in

order to prevent a consequence that we

all agree is bad I’ll just mention a few

I won’t talk today about reforming the

legal system that’s probably a topic

that’s best reserved for a room full of

lawyers and judges instead let me talk

about a couple of modes of intervention

that we can all help accomplish because

they are modes of intervention that will

come about when legislators and

policymakers when taxpayers and citizens

agree that that’s what we ought to be

doing and that’s how we ought to be

spending our money we could be providing

early childhood care for economically

disadvantaged and otherwise troubled

kids and we could be doing it

free and we could be nudging kids like

will off of the path that we’re on there

are other states that do that but we

don’t we could be providing special

schools at both the high school level

and the middle school level but even in

K through five the target economically

and otherwise disadvantaged kids and

particularly kids who have had exposure

to the juvenile justice system there are

a handful of states that do that Texas

doesn’t there’s one other thing we can

be doing well they’re a bunch of other

things we can be doing there’s one other

thing that we could be doing that I’m

going to mention and this is going to be

the only controversial thing that I say

today we could be intervening much more

aggressively into dangerously

dysfunctional homes and getting kids out

of them before their moms pick up

butcher knives and threaten to kill them

if we’re gonna do that we need a place

to put them even if we do all of those

things some kids are gonna fall through

the cracks and they’re going to end up

in that last chapter before the murder

story begins they’re gonna end up in the

juvenile justice system and even if that

happens it’s not yet too late there’s

still time to nudge them if we think

about nudging them rather than just

punishing them there are two professors

in the Northeast one at Yale and one at

Maryland they set up a school that is

attached to a juvenile prison and the

kids are in prison but they go to school

from 8:00 in the morning until 4:00 in

the afternoon now it was logistically

difficult they had to recruit teachers

who wanted to teach inside a prison they

had to establish strict separation

between the people who work at the

school and the prison authorities and

most dauntingly of all they needed to

invent a new curriculum because you know

what people don’t come into and out of

prison on a semester basis

but they did all those things now what

do all of these things have in common

what all of these things have in common

is that they cost money some of the

people in the room might be old enough

to remember the guy on the old oil

filter commercial he used to say well

you can pay me now or you can pay me

later what we’re doing in the death

penalty system is we’re paying later but

the thing is that for every fifteen

thousand dollars that we spend

intervening in the lives of economically

and otherwise disadvantaged kids in

those earlier chapters we save eighty

thousand dollars in crime related costs

down the road even if you don’t agree

that there’s a moral imperative that we

do it it just makes economic sense I

want to tell you about the last

conversation that I had with will it was

the day that he was going to be executed

and we were just talking there was

nothing left to do in his case and we

were talking about his life and he was

talking first about his dad who he

hardly knew who had died and then about

his mom who he did know who was still

alive

and I said to him I know the story I’ve

read the records I know that she tried

to kill you I said but I’ve always

wondered whether you really actually

remember that I said I don’t remember

anything from when I was five years old

maybe you just remember somebody telling

you and he looked at me and he leaned

forward and he said professor he’d known

me for 12 years he still called me

professor

he said professor I don’t mean any

disrespect by this but when your mama

picks up a butcher knife that looks

bigger than you are and chases you

through the house screaming she’s gonna

kill you and you have to lock yourself

in the bathroom and lean against the

door and holler for help until the

police get

there he looked at me and he said that’s

something you don’t forget

I hope there’s one thing you won’t

forget in between the time you arrived

here this morning and the time we break

for lunch they’re going to be four

homicides in the United States we’re

going to devote enormous social

resources to punishing the people who

commit those crimes and that’s

appropriate because we should punish

people who do bad things but three of

those crimes are preventable if we make

the picture bigger and devote our

attention to the earlier chapters then

we’re never going to write the first

sentence that begins the death penalty

story thank you

you

两周前,我

和我的妻子 Katya 坐在厨房的桌子旁,我们

正在谈论我

今天要谈的内容 我们有一个 11 岁的

儿子,他的名字叫林肯,他正

坐在同一张桌子旁做数学

作业, 在我

与 Katya 谈话的暂停期间,我看着

林肯,突然

想起我的一个客户,我的

客户是一个名叫威尔的人,他来自

德克萨斯州北部,他从来不了解他的父亲,

因为他的父亲离开了他的父亲。

怀着他的妈妈,

所以他注定要由一个

单亲妈妈

抚养长大 她

被当局带走并送往

精神病院,因此在

接下来的几年里,她将与他的哥哥住在一起,

直到他

开枪自杀

并在 t 后自杀。 帽子会从

一个家庭成员跳到另一个家庭成员,

直到他九岁时

,那天早上我和科蒂和林肯坐在一起时,他基本上是一个人生活。

我看着我的儿子,我

意识到当我的客户将

他的年龄他已经独自生活了

两年,我们最终会加入该

团伙并犯下许多非常

严重的罪行,其中最严重

的是一场可怕的悲惨谋杀,最终将

作为

对那次罪行的惩罚而被处决,但我没有

今天不想谈论死刑的道德问题

我当然认为我的

委托人不应该被处决,但

我今天想做的

是以一种

我以前从未

做过的方式谈论死刑 这完全

没有争议,我认为这是

可能的,因为

死刑辩论的一个角落可能是

每个人都同意的最重要的角落,

其中最热心的死刑

支持者和 m ost 声嘶力竭的

废奴主义者与

我想在此之前探索的角落完全相同

,尽管我想

花几分钟告诉你

死刑案件是如何展开的,然后我

想告诉你我

学到的两个教训 在过去的20年里,作为一名

死刑律师,通过观看

一百多个这样展开的案件,

你可以把一个死刑

案件想象成一个有四章的故事,

每一个案件的第一章都是

一模一样的,很悲惨 它

从谋杀一个无辜的

人开始,然后是审判

,凶手被定罪并被

送入死囚牢房,死刑

最终由州上诉

法院维持第二章包括一个

复杂的法律程序,称为

州人身保护令上诉第三

章是一个更复杂的

法律程序,称为联邦

人身保护令程序,第四

章是一个

可能会发生

的事情 律师可能会提出宽大

请求,他们可能会发起更

复杂的诉讼,或者他们可能根本不做

任何事情,但当我 20 多年前开始代表死刑犯时,第四章

总是以处决结束

row 在故事

的第二章或第四章

都没有聘请律师的权利,事实上,直到 1980 年末

,他们才

在故事的第三章获得了聘请律师的权利

所以所有这些死囚所

要做的就是依靠志愿律师来

处理他们的法律诉讼

问题是

死囚的人比

有兴趣和专业知识

来处理这些案件的律师要多得多 因此,不可避免地,

律师会转向

已经在第四章

中的案件,这当然是有道理的,那些是最紧迫的案件,

那些是

最接近e的人 这些

律师中的一些成功了 他们设法

为他们的客户进行了新的审判 他们中的

其他人设法将

他们的客户的生命有时延长了几年

有时几个月但

没有发生的一件事是

从来没有一个严肃的和

事实上,从这张图表中可以看出,德克萨斯州的年度处决数量持续下降,

从 1990 年代中后期德克萨斯处决

机构开始

发挥作用开始,只有

几年的年度处决数量有所

下降 在得克萨斯州的典型

年份中,我们平均

每月执行约两个人 在得克萨斯州的某些年份,

我们已经处决了近 40 人,而且

这个数字

在过去 15 年中从未显着下降,

但与此同时,我们 每年继续

执行大约相同

数量的人每年被

判处死刑的

人数急剧下降,所以我们有

这个悖论

每年处决的数量仍然很高,但

新的死刑判决数量

已经下降 为什么这可以

归因于谋杀率的下降,

因为谋杀率并没有

像该图上的红线那样急剧下降

已经下降

发生的事情是陪审团已经

开始判处越来越多的

人终身监禁

,不得假释,而

不是将他们送到执行

室,为什么会发生这种情况并没有

发生,因为

对死刑的民众支持的消散

死刑反对者

在德克萨斯州的死刑支持处于历史最低点这一事实中获得了极大的安慰

知道德克萨斯州的历史最低点

意味着它处于 60 的低点吗 % 现在

1980 年代中期超过 80

% 相比确实不错,但我们无法解释

死刑判决的减少以及在

没有假释可能性的情况下对生命的亲和力 e

由于人们仍然支持死刑,因此对

死刑的支持受到侵蚀 导致

这种现象的原因是,

代表死囚的律师

已经将注意力转移到死刑故事的更早和

更早的章节,

所以 25 年 以前他们专注于

第 4 章,从

25 年前的第 4 章

到 1980 年代后期的

第 3 章,从 1980 年代后期的第 3 章

到 1990 年代中期的第 2 章,从 1990

年代中后期开始,他们开始 现在关注

故事的第 1 章,

你可能会认为

死刑判决的减少和

无期徒刑数量的增加是好事

还是坏事我

今天不想谈论这一切,我

只想 告诉你,

发生这种情况的原因是因为

死刑律师已经明白,

你越早介入案件

,你拯救的可能性就越大

你的客户的生活这是

我在这里学到的第一件事是我学到的

第二件事我的客户

将不是规则的例外

他是我有时会说的规则

在我为你写他的传记之前,我是否见过他并不重要,

而且十分之八

的传记细节或多或少是

准确的,原因是

80% 死囚

牢房的人来自同一个

功能失调的家庭,80%

的死囚牢房都是

接触过少年司法

系统的人

就在那个角落的风口浪尖上

,每个人都会同意

这个房间里的人可能会不同意

是否应该执行遗嘱,

但我认为每个人都会同意,

他的故事最好的最好版本

将是一个从未发生过谋杀的故事

如何 当我们的

儿子林肯两周前在研究那个数学

问题时,我们会这样做吗,这是一个大而

棘手的问题,他正在学习

当你遇到一个大而老的棘手问题时,

有时解决方案是将它

分成更小的问题,这就是我们所做的

对于数学和物理中的大多数问题,

即使在社会政策中,我们也会将它们分成

更小更易于管理的问题,但

每隔一段时间,正如德怀特

艾森豪威尔所说,你解决问题的方式

是让它变得更大,我们

解决这个问题的方式就是让

死刑问题 更大 我们不得不

说 好吧 我们

有死刑故事的这四个章节 但是

在故事开始之前会发生什么

我们如何在凶手成为凶手之前干预凶手的生活

我们必须推动哪些选择 那个

偏离道路的人将

导致每个死刑

支持者和死刑反对者

仍然认为是一个糟糕的结果

你知道谋杀一个无辜的

人 有时人们会说某些东西

不是火箭科学,

他们的意思是火箭科学真的很

复杂,而我们

现在谈论的这个问题非常简单

,那就是火箭科学,它是火箭产生

的推力的数学表达式

我们

今天谈论的同样复杂

我们今天谈论的也是火箭

科学,我的客户将和 80%

的死囚牢房中的人在死刑的

四章之前经历过五章

故事 我认为这五个章节

是他们生活中的干预点,

当我们的社会本可以

干预他们的生活并推动

他们离开他们所走的道路时,

这造成了我们所有

死刑支持者或

死刑反对者所说的后果

现在在这五个章节中的每一章中都是一个糟糕的结果,

当时他的母亲在他的童年时期怀上了他,

当时他还在上

小学,当时他 e 是

中学,然后是高中,当他

这五个章节中的每一章中的少年司法系统中时,

如果我们

只是想象有五种

不同的干预模式,社会实际上可以做各种各样的事情

社会可以干预

这五个章节中的每一章的方式,我们可以

以任何我们想要的方式混合和匹配它们 我们可以采用

3,000 多 3,000 种可能的

策略,

以便像意志一样推动孩子们离开

他们所走的道路 所以我

今天站在这里的不是解决方案,但

事实上我们还有很多东西要学

,但这并不意味着

我们已经知道很多,我们从

其他州的经验中知道有

各种各样的 我们

可以在德克萨斯州和

其他没有使用它们的州使用的干预模式,

以防止出现

我们都认为不好的

后果 系统 这可能是一个

最好保留给一屋子

律师和法官的话题,让我谈谈

我们都可以帮助完成的几种干预模式,因为

它们是

立法者和

政策制定者当纳税人和政策制定者时会出现的干预模式。 公民

同意这是我们应该

做的,也是

我们应该花钱的

方式 在我们正在走的道路上,

还有其他州这样做,但我们不这样做,

我们可以

在高中

和初中提供特殊学校,但即使在

K 到 5 岁的目标经济

和其他处于不利地位的孩子

尤其是

接触过少年司法系统的孩子,有

少数几个州这样做得克萨斯州

没有,还有另一个州 兴我们

可以做得很好他们是一堆

我们可以做的其他事情还有

一件我们可以做的事情我

要提到这将是

我今天说的唯一有争议的事情

我们可以 更

积极地干预危险的

功能失调的家庭

,并在他们的妈妈拿起

屠刀并威胁要杀死他们之前让孩子离开他们,

如果我们要这样做,我们需要一个地方

来放置他们,即使我们做了所有这些

事情 孩子们会

从裂缝中掉下来,他们将

在谋杀故事开始之前进入最后一章,

他们将最终进入

少年司法系统,即使

发生这种情况还为时不晚,

还有时间轻推 如果我们

考虑轻推他们而不是仅仅

惩罚他们

,那么东北部有两位教授,一位在耶鲁大学,一位在

马里兰大学

从早上 8:00 到下午 4:00 上学

现在

他们不得不招募

想在监狱里教书的老师,他们

不得不

在学校工作的人

与监狱当局之间建立严格的分离,这在后勤上很困难

最令人生畏的是,他们需要

发明一门新课程,因为你

知道人们不会

在一个学期内进出监狱,

但他们现在

做了所有这些事情 所有这些事情有

什么共同点 所有这些 共同点

是他们花钱

在死刑系统中所做的事情

是我们稍后再付款,

但问题是,在前面的章节中

,我们每花一万五千美元

干预经济

和其他处于不利地位的孩子的生活,

我们就可以节省 ei

即使您不

同意我们这样做在道德上的

必要性,但在未来与犯罪相关的成本也会高达一万美元,这只是

在经济上有意义 他将被处决

,我们只是在谈论

他的案子没有什么可做的,我们

在谈论他的生活,他

首先谈论的是他

几乎不知道谁死了的父亲,然后是

他所做的母亲 知道谁还活着

,我对他说我知道这个故事我

读过记录我知道她

想杀了你我说过但我一直

想知道你是否真的

记得我说过我什么都不记得

了 从我五岁开始,

也许你只记得有人告诉过

你,他看着我,身体

前倾,他说教授,他认识

我 12 年了,他仍然称我为

教授,

他说教授我没有任何

不尊重的意思 通过这个但是当你妈妈

拿起一把看起来

比你还大的屠刀

在房子里追着你尖叫着她会

杀了你你必须把自己锁

在浴室里靠在

门上大声呼救直到

警察

到达他看着我然后 他说那

是你不会忘记的事情

我希望

在你

今天早上到达这里和我们休息

吃午饭之间有一件事你不会忘记他们将是

美国的四起凶杀案我们是

将投入巨大的社会

资源来惩罚

犯下这些罪行的人,这是

适当的,因为我们应该惩罚

做坏事的人,但

如果

我们把画面放大并将

注意力集中在前面的章节中,那么其中三种罪行是可以预防

的 我永远不会写

开始死刑

故事的第一句话谢谢你