A global culture to fight extremism Maajid Nawaz

have you ever wondered why extremism

seems to have been on the rise in

muslim-majority countries over the

course of the last decade have you ever

wondered how such a situation can be

turned around have you ever looked at

the Arab uprisings and thought how could

we have predicted that or how could we

have better prepared for that well my

personal story my personal journey what

brings me to the Ted stage here today is

a demonstration of exactly what’s been

happening in muslim-majority societies

over the course of the last two decades

at least and beyond I want to share some

of that story with you but also some of

my ideas around change and the role of

social movements in creating change in

muslim-majority societies so let me

begin by first of all giving a very very

brief history of time if I may indulge

in medieval societies they were defined

allegiances and identity was defined

primarily by religion and then we moved

on into an era in the nineteenth century

with the rise of a European nation state

when identities and allegiances were

defined by ethnicity so identity was

primarily defined by ethnicity and the

nation-state reflected that in the age

of globalization we moved on I call it

the era of citizenship where people

could be from multiracial multi-ethnic

backgrounds but all be equal as citizens

in a state you could be American Italian

you can be American Irish you could be

British Pakistani but I believe now that

we’re moving into a new age and that age

the New York Times dubbed recently as

the age of behavior how I define the age

of behavior is a period of transnational

allegiances where identities define more

so by ideas and narratives and these

ideas and narratives that bond people

across borders are increasingly

beginning to affect the way in which

people behave now this is not all

necessary good news because it’s also my

belief that hatred has gone global just

as much as love but actually it’s my

belief that the people who’ve been truly

capitalizing on this age of behavior

up until now up until recent times up

until the last six months the people who

have been capitalizing most on the age

of behavior and the transnational

allegiances using digital activism and

other sorts of of borderless

technologies those who have been

benefiting from this have been

extremists and that’s something which

I’d like to elaborate on if we look at

Islamists if we look at the phenomenon

of far-right fascists one thing they’ve

been very good at one thing that they’ve

been actually exceeding in is

communicating across borders using

technologies to organize themselves to

propagate their message and to create

truly global phenomena now I should know

because for 13 years of my life I was

involved in an extreme Islamist

organization and I was actually a potent

force in spreading ideas across borders

and I witnessed the rise of Islamist

extremism as distinct from Islam the

faith and the way in which it influenced

my co-religionists across the world and

my story my personal story is truly

evidence for the age of behavior that

I’m attempting to elaborate upon here I

was by the way I’m an Essex lad born and

raised in Essex in the UK anyone who’s

from England knows the reputation that

we have from Essex but having been born

in Essex at the age of 16 I joined an

organisation at the age of 17 I was

recruiting people from Cambridge

University to this organization at the

age of 19 I was on the National

leadership of this organisation in the

UK at the age of 21 I was co-founding

this organisation in Pakistan at the age

of 22 I was co-founding this

organisation in Denmark by the age of 24

I found myself convicted in prison in

Egypt being blacklisted from three

countries in the world for attempting to

overthrow their governments being

subjected to torture in Egyptian jails

and sentenced to five years as a

prisoner of conscience now that journey

and what took me from Essex all the way

across the world by the way we were

laughing at democratic activists we felt

they were there from the age of

yesteryear we

that they were out of date I learned how

to use emails from the extremist

organization that I used I learned how

to effectively communicate across

borders without being detected

eventually I was detected of course in

Egypt but the way in which I learnt to

use technology to my advantage was

because I was within an extremist

organization that was forced to think

beyond the confines of the nation-state

the age of behavior where ideas and

narratives were increasingly defining

behavior and identity and allegiances so

as I said we looked to the status quo

and ridiculed it and it’s not just

Islamist extremists that did this but

even if you look across the mood music

in Europe of late far-right fascism is

also on the rise a form of anti Islam

rhetoric is also on the rise and it’s

transnational and the consequence is

that this is having is that is affecting

the political climate across Europe

what’s actually happening is that what

were previously localized parochialism

x' individual or groupings of extremists

who are isolated from one another have

become interconnected in a globalized

way and have thus become or are becoming

mainstream because the internet and

connection technologies are connecting

them across the world if you look at the

rise of far-right fascism across Europe

of late you will see some things that

are happening that are influencing

domestic politics yet the phenomenon is

transnational in certain countries

mosque minarets are being banned in

others head scarves are being banned in

others kosher and halal meat are being

banned as we speak and on the flip side

we have transnational Islamist

extremists doing the same thing across

their own societies and so they are

pockets of parochialism that are being

connected in a way that makes them feel

like they are mainstream now that never

would have been possible before they

would have felt isolated until these

sorts of technologies came around and

connected them in a way that made them

feel part of a larger phenomenon where

does that leave democracy aspirants well

I believe they’re getting left far

behind and I’ll give you an example here

at this stage if any of you remembers

the Christmas Day bomber

plot there’s a man called Anwar Awlaki

is an American citizen ethnically a

Yemeni in hiding currently in Yemen who

inspired a Nigerian son of the head of

the Nigeria’s National Bank this

Nigerian students studied in London

trained in Yemen born in a flight in

Amsterdam to attack America in the

meanwhile the old mentality with a

capital o was represented by his father

the head of the Nigerian bank warning

the CIA that his own son was about to

attack and this warning fell on deaf

ears the old mentality with a capital o

as represented by the nation-state not

yet fully into the age of behavior not

recognizing the power of transnational

social movements got left behind and the

kiss Christmas Day bomber almost

succeeded in attacking the United States

of America again with the example of the

far right that we find ironically

xenophobic xenophobic nationalists are

utilizing the benefits of globalization

so why are they succeeding and why our

democracy aspirants falling behind well

we need to understand the power of a

social movement to understand this and a

social movement is comprised in my view

it’s comprised of four main

characteristics it’s comprised of ideas

and narratives and symbols and leaders

I’ll talk you through one example and

that’s the example that everyone here

will become aware of and that’s the

example of al-qaeda if I ask you to

think of the ideas of al-qaeda that’s

something that comes to your mind

immediately if I ask you to think of

their narratives the West being a war

with Islam the need to defend Islam

against the West these narratives they

come to your mind immediately

incidentally the difference between

ideas and narratives the idea is the

cause that one believes in and the

narrative is the way to sell that course

the propaganda if you like of the course

so the ideas and the narratives of

al-qaeda come to your mind immediately

if I ask you to think of their symbols

and their leaders they come to your mind

immediately one of the leaders was just

killed in Pakistan recently so these

symbols and these leaders come to your

mind immediately and that’s the power of

social movements they’re transnational

and they bond around these ideas and

narratives and these symbols and these

leaders however

if I ask your minds to focus currently

on Pakistan and if I ask you to think of

the symbols and the leaders for

democracy in Pakistan today you will be

hard-pressed to think beyond perhaps the

assassination of Benazir Bhutto which

means by definition that particular

leader no longer exists one of the

problems we’re facing is in my view that

there are no globalized youth-led

grassroots social movements advocating

for democratic culture across Muslim

majority societies there is no

equivalent of the al-qaeda without the

terrorism for democracy across Muslim

majority societies there are no ideas

and narratives and leaders and symbols

advocating the democratic culture on the

ground so that begs the next question

why is it that extremist organizations

whether of the far-right or of the

Islamist extremism Islamism meaning

those who wish to impose one version of

Islam over the rest of society why is it

that they are succeeding in organizing

in a globalized way whereas those who

aspire to democratic culture are falling

behind and I believe that’s for four

reasons I believe number one its

complacency because those who aspire to

democratic culture are in power or have

societies that are leading globalized

powerful societies powerful countries

and that level of complacency means they

don’t feel the need to advocate for that

culture the second I believe is

political correctness that we have a

hesitation in espousing the universality

of democratic culture because we

associate that we associate believing in

the universality of our values with

extremists yet actually whenever we talk

about human rights we do say that human

rights are reverse Universal but

actually going out to propagate that

view is associated with either

neoconservative ISM or with Islamist

extremism to go around saying that I

believe democratic culture is the best

that we’ve arrived at as a form of

political organizing is associated with

extremism and the third Democratic

choice in muslim-majority societies has

been relegated to a political choice

meaning political parties in many of

these societies ask people to vote for

them as the Democratic Party but then

the other parties ask them to vote for

them as the military party wanting to

rule by military dictatorship and then

you have a third party saying vote for

us we will establish a theocracy so

democracy has become merely one

political choice among many other forms

of political choices available in those

societies and what happens as a result

of this is when those parties are

elected and inevitably they fail or

inevitably they make political mistakes

democracy takes the blame for their

political mistakes and then people say

we’ve tried democracy doesn’t really

work let’s bring the military back again

and the fourth reason I believe is what

I’ve labeled here on the slide is the

ideology of resistance what I mean by

that is if the world superpower today

was a communist it would be much easier

for democracy activists to use democracy

activism as a form of resistance against

colonialism than it is today with a

world superpower being America occupying

certain lands and also espousing

democratic ideals

so roughly these four reasons make it a

lot more difficult for democratic

culture to spread as a civilizational

choice not merely as a political choice

when talking about those reasons let’s

break down certain preconceptions is it

just about grievances is it just about a

lack of education while statistically

the majority of those who join extremist

organizations are highly educated

statistically they are educated on

average above the education levels of

Western society anecdotally we can

demonstrate that if poverty was the only

factor or bin Laden is from one of the

richest families in Saudi Arabia his

deputy Manas wari was a pediatrician not

an ill educated man international aid

and development has been going on for

years but extremism in those societies

and many of those societies being on the

rise

and what I believe is missing is genuine

grassroots activism on the ground in

addition to international aid in

addition to education in a dish

to health not exclusive to these things

but in addition to them is propagating a

genuine demand for democracy on the

ground and this is where I believe

neoconservative ISM had it upside down

near conservativism had the philosophy

that you go in with a supply led

approach to impose democratic values

from the top-down

whereas Islamist and far-right

organizations for decades have been

building demand for their ideology on

the grassroots they’ve been building

civilizational demand for their values

on the grassroots and we’ve been seeing

those societies slowly transition to

societies that are increasingly asking

for a form of Islamism mass movements in

Pakistan have been represented after the

Arab uprisings mainly by organizations

claiming for some form of theocracy

rather than for a democratic uprising

because since pre partition they’ve been

building demand for their ideology on

the ground and what’s needed is a

genuine transnational youth-led movement

that works to actively advocate for the

democratic culture which is necessarily

more than just elections but without

freedom of speech you can’t have free

and fair elections without human rights

you don’t have the protection granted to

you to campaign without freedom of

belief you don’t have the right to join

organizations so what’s needed is those

organizations on the ground advocating

for the democratic culture itself to

create the demand on the ground for this

culture what that will do is avoid the

problem I was talking about earlier

where currently we have political

parties presenting democracy as a merely

a political choice in those societies

alongside other choices such as military

rule and theocracy whereas if we start

building this demand on the ground on a

civilizational level rather than merely

on a political level a level above

politics movements that are not

political parties but are rather

creating this civilizational demand for

this democratic democratic culture what

will have in the end is this ideal that

you see on the slide here the ideal that

people should vote in an existing

democracy not for a democracy but to get

to that stage where democracy builds the

fabric of society and the political

choices within that

fabrica left-wing or right-wing but are

certainly not theocratic and military

dictatorship are you voting in a

democracy in an existing democracy and

that democracy is not nearly one of the

choices at the ballot box to get to that

stage we genuinely need to start

building demand in those societies on

the ground now to conclude how does that

happen well Egypt is a good starting

point the outter uprisings have

demonstrated that this is already

beginning but what happened in the Arab

uprisings in what happened in Egypt was

particularly cathartic for me what

happened there was a political coalition

gathered together for a political goal

and that was to remove the leader we

need to move one step beyond that now we

need to see how we can help those

societies move from political

coalition’s loosely based political

coalition’s to civilizational

coalition’s that are working for the

ideals and narratives of the democratic

culture on the ground because it’s not

enough to remove a leader or a ruler or

a dictator that doesn’t guarantee the

what comes next will be society built on

democratic values but generally the

trends that starts in Egypt have

historically spread across the meno

region the Middle East in North Africa

region

so when Arab socialism starting in Egypt

it spread across the region in the 80s

and 90s when Islamism started in the

region it spread across the ameno region

as a whole and the aspiration that we

have at the moment as young Arabs are

proving today and instantly rebranding

themselves as being prepared to die for

more than just terrorism is that there

is a chance the democratic culture can

start in the region and spread across to

the rest of the countries that are

surrounding that but that will require

helping these societies transition from

having merely political coalition’s to

building genuinely grassroots based

social movements that advocate for the

democratic culture and we’ve made a

start for that in Pakistan with a

movement called hoody where we are

working on the ground to to to encourage

the youth to create genuine Byam for the

democratic culture and it’s with that

thought that I’ll end and my time is up

and thank you for your time

you

你有没有想过为什么在过去十年中极端主义

似乎在

穆斯林占多数的国家呈上升趋势

你有没有

想过如何扭转这种局面

我的

个人故事 我的个人旅程

让我今天来到 Ted 舞台

的原因是过去二十年来穆斯林占多数的社会正在发生

的事情 至少,除此之外,我想

与你们分享一些故事,以及

我关于变革的一些想法,以及

社会运动在

穆斯林占多数的社会中创造变革的作用,所以让我

首先给出一个非常非常

简短的历史 时间如果我可以沉迷

于中世纪社会,他们被定义为

忠诚,身份

主要由宗教定义,然后我们

进入了 19 世纪的时代

当身份和效忠

由种族定义时,欧洲民族国家的兴起,因此身份

主要由种族定义,

民族国家反映了在

全球化时代,我们继续前进,我

称之为公民时代,人们

可以来自多种族 多种族

背景,但在一个州作为公民都是平等的,

你可以是美国意大利人,

你可以是美国爱尔兰人,你可以是

英国巴基斯坦人,但我相信现在

我们正在进入一个新时代,也

就是纽约时报最近称为的那个时代

我如何定义行为时代

并不是所有

必要的好消息,因为我也

相信仇恨

和爱一样已经全球化,但实际上我

相信 直到现在 直到最近 直到最近六个月 一直在真正

利用这个行为时代

的人

一直在

利用数字行动主义和

其他形式的行为时代和跨国效忠最多的人 无国界

技术 那些

从中受益的人都是

极端分子

他们

实际上已经超越的是

使用

技术进行跨境交流来组织自己来

传播他们的信息并创造

真正的全球现象现在我应该知道,

因为在我生命的 13 年里,我

参与了一个极端伊斯兰

组织,我实际上是 一种

跨越国界传播思想的强大力量

,我目睹了伊斯兰极端主义的崛起,

这与伊斯兰教不同,

我的信仰和方式 它影响了

我在世界各地的宗教信仰者和

我的

故事 在英国,任何

来自英格兰的人都知道

我们在埃塞克斯的声誉,但

在 16 岁时出生在埃塞克斯 我在 17 岁时加入了一个

组织 我在 19 岁时

从剑桥大学招募人员

到这个组织

我 21 岁时

在英国担任该组织的国家领导职务

在 22 岁时在巴基斯坦与

人共同创立了该组织 我在 24 岁时在丹麦与人共同创立了该

组织

我发现自己被判有罪 埃及监狱

因试图

推翻他们的政府而被世界三个国家列入黑名单

在埃及监狱中遭受酷刑

并被判处五年

良心犯

我来自埃塞克斯 一直

到世界各地 通过我们

嘲笑民主活动家的方式 我们觉得

他们从去年就在

那里 我们

认为他们已经过时 我学会了

如何使用我使用的极端主义

组织的电子邮件 我学会了 如何

不被发现的情况下有效地进行

跨境交流我当然是在埃及被发现的,

但我学会

利用技术为自己谋利的方式是

因为我身处一个极端主义

组织中,被迫

超越国家范围进行思考—— 陈述

行为的时代,思想和

叙述越来越多地定义

行为、身份和忠诚,所以

正如我所说,我们关注现状

并嘲笑它,不仅仅是

伊斯兰极端分子这样做,

即使你看看欧洲的情绪

音乐 晚期极右翼法西斯主义

也在兴起 一种形式的反伊斯兰

言论也在兴起,它是

跨国的,其后果是

这种情况正在影响

整个欧洲的政治气候

实际发生的

是以前本地化的狭隘主义

x' 彼此孤立的个人或极端分子团体

已经

以全球化的方式相互联系,

因此已经或正在成为

主流,因为互联网和

连接技术正在将

它们连接到世界

各地 尖塔在

其他地方被禁止 头巾在其他地方被禁止

犹太洁食和清真肉类在

我们说话时被禁止,另一方面,

我们有跨国伊斯兰

极端分子在

他们自己的社会做同样的事情,所以他们

是狭隘主义的口袋

以一种让他们

感觉自己是主要的方式进行联系 现在

让他们感到孤立,直到

这些技术出现并

以一种让他们感受到更大现象的一部分的方式将他们联系起来,这对

民主有抱负的人有什么好处

我相信他们正在离开 远远

落后,

如果你们中的任何人还

记得圣诞节炸弹袭击的

阴谋,我会在这个阶段给你们举个例子,有一个叫安瓦尔·奥拉基的人,

是一名美国公民,属于

也门人,目前躲在也门,他

启发了一个尼日利亚人的儿子

尼日利亚国家银行的这位

在伦敦学习的尼日利亚学生

在也门接受培训,在阿姆斯特丹的一次飞行中出生

于攻击美国,

同时以

大写字母o的旧心态由他的

父亲代表尼日利亚银行的负责人

警告中央情报局,他自己的 儿子即将

进攻,这个警告被

置若罔闻 以民族国家为代表的大写o的旧心态

尚未完全进入时代 不

承认跨国

社会运动力量的行为被抛在后面,

圣诞节之吻炸弹袭击者几乎

以极右翼的例子再次成功袭击了美利坚合众国

,我们发现具有讽刺意味的是,

排外的仇外民族主义者正在

利用全球化的好处,

所以 他们为什么成功,为什么我们的

民主追求者落后了

我们需要了解

社会运动的力量才能理解这一点,

在我看来,社会运动

由四个主要

特征组成 它由思想

、叙述、符号和领导者组成

我将通过一个例子告诉你,

这就是这里的每个人

都会意识到的

例子,如果我让你

思考一下基地组织的想法,这就是基地组织的例子

让你想想

他们的叙述 西方是

与伊斯兰教的战争 需要保卫伊斯兰教

对抗我们 st 这些叙述它们

会立即浮现在您的脑海中

想法和叙述之间的区别 想法是

人们所信仰的事业,而

叙述是推销该课程

的方式 如果您喜欢该课程的宣传,

那么这些想法和叙述

如果我让你想一想他们的象征

和他们的领袖,你会立即想到基地组织 他们会立即出现在你的脑海中

一位领导人

最近在巴基斯坦被杀,所以这些

象征和这些领袖会立即出现在你的

脑海中,那就是

社会运动的力量 他们是跨国的

,他们围绕着这些想法和

叙述,这些象征和这些

领导人,但是

如果我让你的注意力目前

集中在巴基斯坦,如果我让你想想巴基斯坦民主

的象征和领导人

今天,你将

很难去想可能超越

贝娜齐尔·布托被暗杀的

事情,这意味着根据定义,那个特定的

领导人不再存在 sts

我们面临的问题之一是,在我看来,

没有全球化的青年领导的

草根社会运动

在穆斯林

多数社会中

倡导民主文化

没有任何想法

、叙述、领导人和象征

在当地倡导民主文化,

因此引出了下一个问题,

为什么极端主义组织

无论是极右翼还是

伊斯兰极端主义伊斯兰主义意味着

那些希望强加一种版本的

伊斯兰教优于社会其他人

为什么他们成功

地以全球化的方式组织起来,而那些

渴望民主文化的人却

落后了,我认为这是出于四个

原因,我认为这是

自满的第一大原因,因为那些渴望

民主文化的人是 掌权或

拥有引领全球化

强大社会的社会 强大的国家

和 自满程度意味着他们

不觉得有必要倡导这种

文化 第二我认为是

政治正确 我们

在支持民主文化的普遍性方面犹豫不决,

因为

我们将相信

我们价值观的普遍性与

极端分子联系在一起 但实际上,每当我们

谈论人权时,我们确实会说

人权是逆普遍的,但

实际上传播这种

观点与

新保守主义 ISM 或伊斯兰

极端主义有关,到处说我

相信民主文化是我们最好的

” 作为一种

政治组织形式与极端主义有关,

穆斯林占多数的社会中的第三个民主选择已

被降级为政治选择,

这意味着这些社会中的许多政党

要求人们

以民主党的身份投票给他们,但随后

其他政党要求他们投票支持

他们作为军事政党

想要通过 军事独裁,然后

您有第三方说投票给

我们,我们将建立一个神权政治,因此

民主已成为这些社会

中许多其他形式

的政治选择中的一种政治选择,

结果是当这些政党

elected and inevitably they fail or

inevitably they make political mistakes

democracy takes the blame for their

political mistakes and then people say

we’ve tried democracy doesn’t really

work let’s bring the military back again

and the fourth reason I believe is what

I’ve 幻灯片上标注的

是抵抗意识形态 我的意思是

,如果今天的世界超级大国

是共产主义者,那么

民主活动家使用民主

活动作为抵抗

殖民主义的一种形式要比今天

世界上的世界容易得多 超级大国是美国占领

某些土地并且还拥护

民主理想,

所以大致这四个原因使它变得

更加d 民主

文化很难作为一种文明选择传播,

而不仅仅是作为一种政治选择

在谈论这些原因时让我们

打破某些先入为主的观念

是否只是关于不满是否只是

缺乏教育而统计

上大多数加入极端主义

组织的人是 受过高等教育的

统计 他们的

平均教育水平高于西方社会的教育水平

有趣的是,我们可以

证明,如果贫困是唯一的

因素,或者本拉登来自

沙特阿拉伯最富有的家庭之一,他的

副手 Manas Wari 是一名儿科医生而不是

受过不良教育 人类国际援助

和发展已经进行了

多年,但这些社会中的极端主义

和其中许多社会正在

上升

,我认为缺少的是真正的

基层激进主义,

除了国际援助

和教育之外

健康不仅限于这些东西,

而且除它们之外是公关 反对

实地对民主的真正需求

,这就是我认为

新保守主义ISM将其颠倒过来

接近保守主义的哲学

,即你以供应为主导的

方法从上到下强加民主价值观

而伊斯兰主义和极右翼

几十年来,组织一直

在基层建立对其意识形态的需求,他们一直在基层

建立对其价值观的文明需求

,我们已经看到

这些社会慢慢过渡

到越来越多地

要求某种形式的伊斯兰群众运动的社会。

在阿拉伯起义之后,巴基斯坦的代表

主要是

声称某种形式的神权

而非民主起义的组织,

因为自从分治前,他们一直

在实地建立对其意识形态的需求,

而需要的是一场

真正的跨国青年领导的运动

积极倡导

民主文化

不只是选举,但没有

言论自由

没有人权,

就无法进行自由公正

的选举

那些

在当地

倡导民主文化本身的组织是否会

在当地创造对这种文化的需求,这样

做会避免

我之前谈到的问题

,目前我们有

政党将民主仅仅作为

一种政治选择 这些社会

与军事

统治和神权政治等其他选择一起,而如果我们开始

文明层面而不是仅仅

在政治层面上建立这种需求,那么在

政治运动之上的层面上,不是

政党而是

创造这种文明的需求

这种民主民主的文化,

最终会有的就是

你在sl上看到的这个理想 在这里理解一个理想,即

人们应该在现有的

民主中投票,而不是支持民主,而是要

达到民主建立

社会结构和在该结构中

的左翼或右翼政治选择的阶段,但

肯定不是神权政治和军事

独裁统治你是

在一个现有民主国家

中投票吗?民主几乎不是投票箱上的选择之一,

以达到那个

阶段我们现在真正需要开始

在这些社会中建立需求,

以得出结论这是如何

发生的 埃及是一个很好的

起点,外部起义

表明这已经

开始了,但是在阿拉伯

起义中发生的事情在埃及发生的事情

对我来说特别宣泄了

发生的事情有一个政治联盟

为了一个政治目标而聚集在一起

,那就是 要罢免领导人,我们

需要更进一步,现在我们

需要看看我们如何帮助这些

社会摆脱政治

政治联盟的基础松散的政治

联盟到文明

联盟,它们正在为实地

民主文化的理想和叙述而努力,

因为

仅仅罢免不能保证未来将是社会的领导人或统治者

或独裁者是不够的

建立在

民主价值观的基础上,但总体而言

,始于埃及的趋势在

历史上一直蔓延到

中东地区和北非

地区,

因此当阿拉伯社会主义在埃及开始时,

它在 80 年代和 90 年代在该地区开始传播时,它在整个地区蔓延。

传播到整个阿梅诺地区

我们现在作为年轻的阿拉伯人正在

证明并立即将自己重新塑造

为准备为

不仅仅是恐怖主义而死的愿望是,

民主文化有

可能在 地区并蔓延到

周围的其他国家,但这需要

帮助 这些社会

从单纯的政治联盟转变为

建立真正以草根为基础的

社会运动,倡导

民主文化

为民主文化创造真正的比亚姆,

怀着这样的

想法,我会结束,我的时间到了

,谢谢你的时间