We need to reset democracy

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everyone

i want to talk to you today about

democracy

about the struggles that it’s

experiencing

and the fact that all of us together in

this room

might be the solution but before i get

on to that

i want to take a little detour into the

past

this is a picture from athens or more

specifically

it’s a picture of a place called the

pinnix which is where about two and a

half thousand years ago

the ancient greeks the ancient athenians

gathered to take all their major

political decisions

together i say the ancient athenians

in fact it was only the men uh actually

it was only the

three resident property owning men

but with all those failings it was still

a revolutionary idea that ordinary

people

were capable of dealing with the biggest

issues of the time

and didn’t need to rely on a single

supposedly superior ruler

it was you know it was a way of doing

things it was a

political system it was you could say a

democratic technology

appropriate to the time

fast forward to the 19th century when

democracy was having another flourishing

moment

and the democratic technology that they

were using then

was representative democracy the idea

that you have to

elect a bunch of people gentlemen

in the picture here all gentlemen at the

time of course

you had to elect them to look after your

best interests

and if you think about the conditions of

the time the fact that it was impossible

to gather everybody together physically

and of course they didn’t have the means

to gather everyone together virtually it

was again a kind of democratic

technology

appropriate to the time

fast forward again to the 21st century

and we’re living through

what’s internationally known as the

crisis of democracy

what i would call the crisis of

representative democracy

the sense that people are falling out of

love with us as a way of getting things

done

that it’s not fundamentally working

and we see this crisis take many forms

in many different countries so

in the uk you see a country that now at

times looks almost ungovernable

in places like hungary and turkey you

see very frighteningly authoritarian

leaders being elected

in places like new zealand we see it in

the nearly 1 million people who could

have voted

at the last general election but who

chose not to

now these kinds of struggles these sort

of crises of democracy

have many roots of course but for me one

of the biggest ones is that we haven’t

upgraded

our democratic technology we’re still

far too reliant

on the systems that we inherited from

the 19th and from the 20th century and

we know this because in survey after

survey

people tell us they say we don’t think

that we’re getting a fair share

of decision-making power decisions

happen somewhere else

they say we don’t think the current

systems allow government to genuinely

deliver on the common good

the interest that we share as citizens

they say we’re much less deferential

than ever before

and we expect more than ever before and

we want more than ever before to be

engaged in the big political decisions

that affect us and they know

that our systems of democracy have just

not kept pace

with either the expectations or the

potential

of the 21st century

and for me what that suggests is that we

need a really significant

upgrade of our systems of democracy

that doesn’t mean we throw out

everything that’s working about the

current system because we’ll always need

representatives to carry out some of the

complex work of running the modern world

but it does mean a bit more athens

and a bit less victorian england and it

also means

a big shift towards what’s generally

called

everyday democracy and it gets this name

because it’s about finding ways of

bringing democracy

closer to people giving us more

meaningful opportunities to be involved

in it

giving us a sense that we’re not just

part of government on one day every few

years when we vote

but we’re part of it every other day of

the year

now that everyday democracy has two key

qualities

that i’ve seen prove their worth time

and again in the research that i’ve done

the first is participation because it’s

only if we as citizens

as much as possible get involved

in the decisions that affect us that

will actually get

the kind of politics that we need that

will actually get our common good

served the second important quality

is deliberation and that’s just a fancy

way of saying high quality public

discussion

because all very well people

participating

but it’s only when we come together and

we listen to each other

we engage with the evidence and reflect

on our own views

that we genuinely bring to the surface

the wisdom and the ideas that would

otherwise remain scattered

and isolated amongst us as a group

it’s only then that the crowd really

becomes smarter than the individual

so if we ask what could this abstract

idea this everyday democracy actually

look like in practice

the great thing is we don’t even have to

use our imaginations

because these things are already

happening in pockets around the world

one of my favorite quotes comes from the

science fiction writer william gibson

who once said the future’s already here

it’s just unevenly spread

so what i want to do is share with you

three things from this unevenly spread

future that i’m really excited about

in terms of upgrading the systems of

democracy that we work with

three components of that potential

democratic

upgrade and the first of them

is the citizens assembly and the idea

here is that

a polling company is contracted by

government

to draw up say 100

citizens who are perfectly

representative of the country as a whole

so perfectly represented in terms of age

gender ethnicity income level and so on

and these people are brought together

over a period of weekends

or a week paid for their time and asked

to

discuss an issue of crucial public

importance

they’re given training on how to discuss

issues well with each other

which we’ll all know of course from our

experiences of arguing online if nowhere

else

is not an ability that we’re all born

with innately most the pity

in the citizens assembly people are also

put in front of evidence and the experts

and they’re given time to discuss the

issue deeply

with their fellow citizens and come to a

set of consensus recommendations

so these kinds of assemblies have been

used in places like canada

where they were used to draw up a new

national action plan

on mental health for the whole country

a citizens assembly was used recently in

melbourne

to basically lay the foundation of a new

10-year

financial plan for the whole city so

these assemblies can have real teeth

real weight the second key element

of the democratic upgrade participatory

budgeting

the idea here is that a local council or

a city council

takes its budget for spending on new

buildings

new services and says we’re going to put

a chunk of this up

for the public to decide but only after

you’ve argued the issues over carefully

with each other and so the process

starts at the neighborhood level

you have people meeting together in

community halls

in basketball courts making the

trade-offs

saying well are we going to spend that

money on a new health centre

or are we going to spend it on safety

improvements to a local road

people using their expertise in their

own lives

those discussions are then pushed up to

the suburb or ward level

and then again to the city level

and in full view of the public the

public themselves

makes the final allocation of that

budget and in the city where this all

originated

puerto rigre and brazil are placed with

about a million inhabitants

as many as 50 000 people get engaged in

that process every year

the third element of the upgrade

online consensus forming

in taiwan a few years ago when uber

arrived on their shores

the government immediately launched an

online discussion process

using a piece of software called polis

which is also

coincidentally or not coincidentally

what the ancient athenians call

themselves when they were making their

collective decisions

and the way polus works is it groups

people together

and then using machine learning and a

bunch of other techniques it encourages

good discussion

amongst those participating it allows

them to put up

proposals which are then discussed

knocked back

refined until they reach something like

80 percent consensus

and in the taiwanese case within about

four weeks

this process had yielded six

recommendations for how people wanted to

see uber regulated

and those almost all of them were

immediately picked up

by the government and accepted by uber

now i find these examples really

inspiring

people sometimes ask me why i’m an

optimist and

a large part of the answer is these

kinds of innovations

because i think they you know they

really show us that

we can have a kind of politics which is

deeply responsive

to our needs as citizens but which

avoids

the peril of the threats to human

liberties the threats to civil liberties

that authoritarian

populism descends into they show us that

even though we live in what looks like

quite a dark time

there are things that act a bit like

emergency lighting

guiding us towards something better

and although these are all ideas from

the western tradition

they can also be combined with adapted

by

indigenous traditions that also value

turn taking in speech

and consensus decision making

and the thread that binds all these

traditions together

is essentially a faith in other people a

faith in people’s ability

to handle difficult decisions a faith in

people’s ability to come together

and make political decisions

intelligently

in the polis example we see that

government can be agile

and nimble in the face of tech

disruption

in the participatory budgeting we see

that we can build systems that are

disproportionately used by poor people

and which deliver infrastructure that is

of better quality than the traditional

systems

in citizens assemblies the experts who

observe them

time and again say that in those good

conditions

people’s ability to listen to others to

engage with the evidence

and to shift from their entrenched views

is consistently

astounding and that’s a really

really hopeful finding because you know

i think we live at a time

where you see right around the world

huge suspicion of other people of other

citizens

huge doubts about whether people are

really able to bear the burden of

decision making

that democracy places on them

but if you’re worried for instance about

whether

a lot of people out there you know are

misinformed

or fallen prey to online propaganda

what better way to push back against

that

than by ensuring that they’re placed in

forums

forums like the new england town hall

meetings shown here

forums where they have to come face to

face with other people or at least be in

close virtual contact

where they have to justify their

opinions have to deal

with the evidence and are encouraged to

step away

from their prejudices

the canadian philosopher joseph heath

says

that rationality our ability to make

good decisions

isn’t something that we achieve as

individuals if we achieve it at all

as something we achieve in groups our

best hope of rationality

is each other or to put the thing

a different way the problem with

democracy

is not other people it’s not other

citizens

the problem is the situations in which

they

in which we all have been asked to do

our democratic work

the problem is the outdated democratic

technology that we’ve all been forced to

use

and so what these examples show to me

the reason i find them

inspiring is that i think they

demonstrate that if you get the

situations right

if you get the technology upgraded then

actually the things that we do

when we come together as citizens can be

astounding

and together we really can build a form

of democracy that’s genuinely fit for

the 21st century

thank you very much

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今天我想和大家谈谈

民主

正在经历的斗争

以及我们所有人在

这个房间里

可能是解决方案的事实,但在我开始之前,

我想先谈谈 绕道

过去

这是一张来自雅典的照片,或者更

具体地说,

这是一张名为 pinnix 的地方的照片

古代雅典

人实际上只有男人 呃

实际上只有

三个居民财产拥有男人

但是尽管有所有这些失败,但

普通人能够处理当时最大的

问题仍然是一个革命性的

想法 需要依靠一个

所谓的上级统治者

你知道这是一种

做事方式 这是一个

政治制度 你可以说是一种适当的

民主技术

时间

快进到 19 世纪,当时

民主正处于另一个繁荣

时期

,他们当时使用的民主技术

是代议制民主

,你必须

选举一群人

,照片中的先生们,当时的所有先生们

当然,

您必须选择他们来照顾您的

最大利益

,如果您考虑

当时的情况,不可能

将所有人聚集在一起

,当然他们也没有办法

将所有人虚拟地聚集在一起。

又是一种适合时代的民主

技术

又快进到 21 世纪

,我们正在经历

国际上所谓

的民主

危机 我称之为

代议制民主

的危机 人们正在失去

爱的感觉 我们作为一种

完成工作的方式

,它从根本上不起作用

,我们看到这场危机

在m中以多种形式出现 任何不同的国家,所以

在英国,你会看到一个现在在

匈牙利和土耳其这样的地方看起来几乎无法治理的国家,你会

看到在新西兰这样的地方选举出非常可怕的威权

领导人,

我们

在近 100 万本

可以投票的人中看到这一点

在上次大选中,但现在谁

选择不参加

这种斗争这些

民主危机

当然有很多根源,但对我来说

,最大的根源之一是我们还没有

升级

我们的民主技术,我们仍然

太远了 依赖

于我们

从 19 世纪和 20 世纪继承的系统,

我们知道这一点,因为在一次又一次的

调查中

人们告诉我们,他们说我们认为我们没有

获得公平份额

的决策权决策

发生在某个地方 否则

他们说我们不认为当前的

系统允许政府真正

实现

我们作为公民所共有的利益

他们说我们没有那么

恭顺 前所未有

,我们比以往任何时候都期望更多,

我们比以往任何时候都更希望

参与影响我们的重大政治决策

,他们

知道我们的民主制度没有

跟上人们的期望或

潜力 21 世纪

,对我来说,这表明我们

需要

对我们的民主制度进行真正重大的升级,

这并不意味着我们抛弃

所有对当前制度起作用的东西,

因为我们总是需要

代表来执行一些

复杂的 管理现代世界的工作,

但它确实意味着更多的雅典

和更少的维多利亚时代的英格兰,这

也意味着

向通常所说的日常民主的重大转变

,它之所以得名,

是因为它是关于寻找

使民主

更接近人们给予的方法 让我们有更多

有意义的机会

参与其中,

让我们有一种感觉,我们不只是

每隔几年的一天当我们投票时就成为政府的一员

但是我们一年中每隔一天都参与其中,

因为日常民主有两个关键

品质

,我已经

在我所做的研究中一次又一次地证明了它们的价值

第一个是参与,因为

只有当我们 由于公民

尽可能多地

参与影响我们的决策,这

将真正获得

我们需要的那种政治,这

将真正为我们的共同利益

服务 第二个重要品质

是审议,这只是

说高质量公众的一种奇特方式

讨论,

因为所有参与的人都非常好,

但只有当我们走到一起,

我们互相倾听时,

我们才会接触证据并

反思我们自己的观点

,我们才能真正将

智慧和想法浮出水面,否则这些智慧和想法将

保持分散

和孤立 在我们作为一个群体

中,只有到那时,人群才真正

变得比个人更聪明,

所以如果我们问这个抽象的

想法,这个日常民主交流会带来什么? 最终

看起来在实践

中最棒的事情是我们甚至不必

使用我们的想象力,

因为这些事情已经

在世界各地的口袋里发生

了我最喜欢的一句话来自

科幻作家威廉·吉布森

,他曾经说过未来已经在这里

它只是分布不均,

所以我想做的是与您分享

这个分布不均的

未来中的

三件事

其中一个

是公民大会,这里的想法

是,

一家民意调查公司与政府签约,

以起草 100

名完全

代表整个国家的公民,

在年龄

性别种族收入水平等方面完美代表

, 这些人

在一个周末

或一周的时间里聚集在一起,并被要求

讨论一个重要的公共问题

重要的是,

他们接受了如何

与彼此很好地

讨论问题

的培训 集会人员也被

置于证据和专家面前

,他们有时间与同胞深入讨论该

问题

并达成

一系列共识建议,

因此此类集会已

在加拿大等地使用

过 用于制定新的

全国精神健康国家行动计划

最近在墨尔本举行了一次公民大会

,基本上为全市新的

10 年

财务计划奠定了基础,因此

这些大会可以有真正的牙齿

真正的重量

民主升级参与式

预算

的第二个关键要素 这里的想法是地方议会

或市议会

将其预算用于新

建筑的支出

n 新服务并说我们将把

其中的一部分

交给公众来决定,但只有在

你们彼此仔细讨论了这些问题之后

,这个过程才

从社区层面开始,

你让人们在

社区中聚会

篮球场的大厅进行

权衡取舍

说得好,我们是将

这笔钱花在一个新的健康中心

还是我们将把它花在

改善当地道路的安全上

人们在自己的生活中利用他们的专业知识

然后推动这些讨论

直到郊区或区一级

,然后再到城市一级

,在公众

面前,公众自己做出预算的最终分配,在这一切都起源于里格雷港和巴西的城市里,

大约有一百万居民

每年有多达 50,000 人参与该过程

是几年前 uber 登陆台湾时在线升级共识的第三个要素

政府立即

使用一款名为 polis 的软件启动了在线讨论流程,

这也是

巧合或非

巧合的是古代雅典

人在做出

集体决定

时自称的方式,polus 的工作方式是将

人们聚集在一起

,然后使用机器学习 和

许多其他技术它鼓励

参与者之间进行良好的讨论它允许

他们提出

建议,然后讨论这些建议,然后再进行讨论,

直到他们达成

80% 的共识

,在台湾的情况下,这个过程在大约

四个星期内

产生了六项

建议 对于人们如何希望

看到 uber 受到监管,

并且几乎所有这些人都

立即

被政府选中并被 uber 接受,

现在我发现这些例子真的很

鼓舞人心,

人们有时会问我为什么我是一个

乐观主义者

,很大一部分答案是

这些创新,

因为我认为他们你知道 现在它们

确实向我们表明,

我们可以拥有一种政治,它对

我们作为公民的需求做出深刻的反应,但又

避免

了对人类

自由的威胁的危险。威权民粹主义对公民自由的威胁,

它们向我们表明,

即使我们 生活在一个看起来

相当黑暗的时代

,有些东西有点像

应急照明,

引导我们走向更好的东西

,虽然这些都是

来自西方传统的想法,但

它们也可以与

同样重视轮换的本土传统相结合

言论

和共识决策

以及将所有这些

传统联系在一起

的主线本质上是对他人的

信念,对人们

处理困难决定的能力的信念,对

人们团结起来

并明智地做出政治决策的能力的信念,在

我们看到的城邦例子中,

面对

参与式 b 中的技术中断,政府可以灵活敏捷 估计我们看到

,我们可以建立

穷人不成比例地使用的系统,

并提供

公民大会中的传统系统质量更好的基础设施。观察它们的专家

一次又一次地表示,在那些良好的

条件下,

人们倾听的能力 其他人

接触证据

并改变他们根深蒂固的

观点一直

令人震惊,这真的是一个非常

有希望的发现,因为你知道

我认为我们生活在

一个你看到世界各地对其

他人的巨大怀疑对其他

公民的

巨大怀疑 关于人们是否

真的能够承担民主赋予他们的决策负担,

但是如果您担心,例如

,您认识的很多人是否被

误导

或成为在线宣传的牺牲品,有

什么更好的方法来反击 反对

一点,而不是确保将它们放置在

新英格兰市政厅之类的论坛中

在这里展示的

论坛 他们必须

与其他人面对面或至少进行

密切的虚拟

接触 他们必须证明自己的

观点的正当性 必须

处理证据并被鼓励

摆脱他们的

偏见 加拿大哲学家约瑟夫·希思

说理性我们做出正确

决定

的能力不是我们作为个人所获得的,

如果我们完全实现它

作为我们在群体中实现的东西我们

对理性的最大希望

是彼此或

以不同的方式来看待民主的问题

不是其他人 不是其他

公民 问题

是我们都被要求进行

民主工作的情况 对我来说

,我觉得它们

鼓舞人心的原因是,我认为它们

证明了如果你把

情况做好了,

如果你升级了技术,

那么 事实上,

当我们作为公民走到一起时所做的事情可能

令人震惊

,我们真的可以建立

一种真正适合 21 世纪的民主形式,

非常感谢你们

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