You may be accidentally investing in cigarette companies Bronwyn King

In 2001, I was a brand new, shiny doctor,
planning to save the world.

My first job was working for three months
on a lung cancer unit.

Nearly all of my patients
were smokers or ex-smokers,

and most of them had started
smoking when they were children

or in their early teens.

And despite living
in a beautiful, wealthy country,

with access to the most
sophisticated medicines,

nearly every single one
of my patients died.

Everyone knows tobacco is bad,

but when you see the impact
firsthand, day-by-day,

it leaves a very deep impression.

Ten years later,
I’m a radiation oncologist,

fully aware of the suffering
caused by tobacco.

I’m sitting at the hospital cafeteria,
having my first ever meeting

with a representative
from my superannuation fund.

It was thrilling,
I’m sure you can imagine.

(Laughter)

He tells me I’m in the default option.

And I said, “Option? Does that mean
there are other options?”

He looked at me,
rolled his eyes, and said,

“Well, there is this one greenie option

for people who have a problem with
investing in mining, alcohol or tobacco.”

I said, “Did you just say tobacco?”

He said, “Yes.”

I said, “So, are you telling me
I’m currently investing in tobacco?”

And he said, “Oh, yes, everyone is.”

When you invest in a company,
you own part of that company.

You want that company to grow
and succeed and thrive.

You want that company
to attract new customers,

you want that company
to sell more of its products.

And when it comes to tobacco,

I couldn’t think of anything
that I wanted less.

Now, I know you can only see
one person standing here

on this big red dot,
on this enormous stage.

But instead, I would like you to imagine

that you’re looking
at seven million people

crammed up here beside me today.

Seven million people across the world
have died as a result of tobacco

in the past year alone.

Just imagine, if a brand new industry
were launched today,

and by the end of next June,

that industry’s products
had killed seven million people.

Would any of us invest
in that new, deadly industry?

Tobacco is one of the most
pressing global issues of our time,

and most of us are far more complicit
in the problem than we may realize.

So, the super fund representative
explained to me

that tobacco companies would be found

in the international shares portion
of my portfolio.

So I asked him, “Well,
which international shares do I have?”

He got back to me
two weeks later with this list:

my number one holding
in international shares

was British American Tobacco.

Number two, Imperial Tobacco.

Number four, Philip Morris.

And number five,
the Swedish Match company.

Four of the top five companies
were tobacco companies,

my investments, an oncologist.

And then I realized it wasn’t just me.

It was all members of my super fund.

And then I realized it wasn’t just
my super fund, it was all of them.

And then I realized,
it wasn’t just superannuation funds,

it was banks, insurers and fund managers.

And then I realized
it wasn’t just Australia.

It was the entire global finance sector,

completely tangled up
with the tobacco industry.

The industry that makes products
that kill seven million people every year.

So I started discussing the issue
with my superannuation fund,

and I’ve been discussing it ever since.

Finance leaders have many challenging
issues to deal with, these days.

So I suggest they adopt a framework

that clearly articulates
why it is reasonable

to take a strong position on tobacco.

I suggest finance leaders
ask a suite of three questions

of any company in which
they might invest our money.

Question one:

Can the product made
by the company be used safely?

“No” is the answer for tobacco companies.

Zero is the only safe number
of cigarettes for a human being.

It could not be more black and white.

Question two:

Is the problem caused by the company
so significant on a global level

that it is subject
to a UN treaty or convention?

“Yes” is the answer for tobacco.

Indeed there is a UN tobacco treaty

that has been ratified by 180 countries.

The treaty was created

because of the catastrophic
global impact of tobacco.

The current forecast
is that the world is on track

for one billion tobacco-related
deaths this century.

One billion deaths.

There’s only seven billion of us.

Question three relates
to the concept of engagement.

Many financial organizations genuinely
want to be good corporate citizens.

They want to use their shareholder power

to sit down with companies,
engage with them,

and encourage them to do better things.

So the question is:

Can engagement with the company
be an effective lever for change?

“No” is the answer for tobacco companies.

Engagement with
the tobacco industry is futile.

The only acceptable outcome would be

if tobacco companies ceased
their primary business.

In fact, engagement
with the tobacco industry

has never led to less human death.

When we consider that framework,
three simple questions,

we can see that is reasonable
and defensible

to take a strong position and exclude
investment in the tobacco industry.

In addition to the UN tobacco treaty,

there is, in fact, another global treaty
that demands that we act on tobacco.

In 2015, the UN adopted
the Sustainable Development Goals.

Now, we’re talking about tobacco,

and I know you’re going to jump
straight to number three:

good health and well-being.

And indeed, ramping up
tobacco control regulation

is essential if we’re going
to achieve that goal.

However, look a bit more deeply,

and you will find that 13
of the 17 goals cannot be achieved

unless there is a major shake-up
of the tobacco industry.

Personally, my favorite goal is number 17:

partnerships for the goals.

At present, we have the entire global
health sector doing everything it can

to help the tidal wave of patients
suffering as a result of tobacco.

But that said, in the past year alone,
seven million people have died,

so clearly, that is not enough.

We also have governments
aligned on tobacco, 180 of them,

busily trying to implement
the provisions of the UN tobacco treaty.

But that, too, is not enough.

If the global finance sector continues
to lend money to tobacco companies,

to invest in tobacco companies,

and to strive to profit
from tobacco companies,

we are working against each other.

Now, if we are going to disrupt

what doctors call
“the global tobacco epidemic,”

we need every sector of society
to stand side by side

and be part of the solution.

So I call on finance leaders

to implement a framework
to deal with sensitive issues.

And I call on them to uphold
global conventions.

But in addition, there are business risks.

Pure financial risks, associated with
being invested in the tobacco industry

over the long term,

and I ask finance leaders
to consider them.

The first risk is that fewer
and fewer people will smoke,

as a result of increasing
tobacco regulation.

When these warnings were put
on cigarette packets in Canada,

[Tobacco can make you impotent]

the first response of smokers was
to give them right back to the salespeople

and say, “Could you please just give me
the ones that say they’ll kill me?”

(Laughter)

Regulation gets noticed,
regulation reduces consumption,

and we have 180 countries
committed to more regulation.

Let’s talk about litigation
and the risk that presents.

At present, it’s the business model
of the tobacco industry

that is being challenged.

Currently, the tobacco industry
externalizes all of the health costs

associated with tobacco.

Governments pay,
communities pay, you pay, I pay.

The tobacco industry
externalizes all those costs,

with an estimated one trillion
US dollars per year.

Yet they internalize
and privatize the profits.

In 2015, in Quebec province,

the courts determined
that the tobacco industry

was indeed responsible
for those health costs,

and ordered them to pay
15 billion US dollars.

That case is under appeal.

But it begs the question,
why should any of us, in any country,

be paying for the costs
of the tobacco industry?

Let’s move on to supply chain
and the risk there.

It is not well known

that the tobacco industry
significantly relies on child labor.

In March 2017, the International
Labour Organization

issued a report which stated:

“In tobacco-growing communities,
child labor is rampant.”

The US Department of Labor

currently lists 16 countries
that use children to produce tobacco leaf.

Scrutiny of supply chains is intensifying,

and that cannot continue
to escape public attention.

Finally, there is also
reputation risk to consider

for individuals and organizations
that continue to maintain an affiliation

with the tobacco industry.

In countless surveys,

the tobacco industry ranks
as the world’s least reputable industry.

Let’s just look at the impact on children.

Globally, every single day,

it is estimated that
100,000 children start smoking.

That’s enough children to fit
inside the Melbourne Cricket Ground.

And most of those children
are from the poorest communities on earth.

Here in Australia, the average age
that people start smoking

is 16 years and two months.

They look pretty young to me,
but the worst thing here

is that while we don’t have
data from every country on earth,

we believe that is the oldest age.

Everywhere else is younger.

Now for the good news.

Things are changing.

The finance sector is coming to the party.

After around 2,000 meetings
with finance leaders,

primarily in the cafés
of Melbourne and Sydney

and London and Paris and New York
and all across the globe,

momentum, moving away from investment
in the tobacco industry,

is starting to snowball.

Finance leaders are alarmed
when they’re presented with the facts,

and overwhelmingly,
they want to be part of the solution.

Here, in Australia, we now have

10,636,101 superannuation accounts

that are tobacco-free.

That one is mine, by the way.

(Applause)

There is still a lot of work to be done,

but I’ve watched the conversation go
from “Should we go tobacco-free?”

to “Why haven’t we done it yet?”

In the past year alone,

major tobacco-free moves have been made
by leading financial organizations

in eight different countries.

In Australia, New Zealand,
the Netherlands, Sweden,

Denmark, France, Ireland and the USA.

By sovereign wealth funds,
fund managers, pension funds,

banks, insurers and reinsurers.

Since tobacco-free portfolios began,

more than six billion dollars
has been redirected

away from investment
in the tobacco industry.

The case study is well and truly proven.

When making the tobacco-free
announcement in March this year,

the CEO of AMP Capital said,

“We are not prepared to deliver
investment returns

at any cost to society.”

And that is the question
we need to ask ourselves.

Is there no baseline standard
below which we will not sink

to make profit?

Along the way, I’ve had a lot of help
and incredible support.

Now, if you’re trying to do something,

I highly recommend that you have
a princess on your team.

Her Royal Highness, Princess Dina Mired,

is the global ambassador for this work.

We also have a lord,
a knight, a former premier,

a former federal minister
and a stack of CEOs.

But the capacity to change things

does not rest exclusively
with these highly influential people.

The power to do that is with all of us.

Everyone here can be part of the solution.

In fact, everyone here must be
part of the solution.

Most people in this room own companies

via their superannuation funds,
their banks and their insurers.

And it is time for us to ask them:

Are they investing our money
in companies that make products

that kill seven million people every year?

It’s your money.

It’s my money, it’s our money.

And that is a very reasonable question.

Pretty cramped up here,

with seven million people beside me today.

But if we don’t act now, and act together,

we’ll need to make way
for one billion people

before the end of this century.

And this is a very big stage.

But there is no more room.

Thank you.

(Applause)

2001年,我是一个崭新的、闪亮的医生,
计划拯救世界。

我的第一份工作是
在一个肺癌部门工作了三个月。

几乎我所有的患者
都是吸烟者或前吸烟者,

他们中的大多数人

在孩提时代或十几岁时就开始吸烟。

尽管生活
在一个美丽、富裕的国家

,可以获得最
先进的药物,但

几乎
我的每一位病人都死了。

每个人都知道烟草不好,

但是当你亲眼看到它的影响时
,每天

都会留下非常深刻的印象。

十年后,
我成为一名放射肿瘤学家,

充分意识到
烟草带来的痛苦。

我坐在医院的自助餐厅里
,第一次见到

我的退休基金代表。

这很激动人心,
我相信你可以想象。

(笑声)

他告诉我我在默认选项中。

我说:“选项?这是否意味着
还有其他选项?”

他看着我,
翻了个白眼说:

“嗯,

对于那些在
投资采矿、酒精或烟草方面有问题的人来说,这是一个绿色的选择。”

我说:“你刚才说的是烟草吗?”

他说:“是的。”

我说:“那么,你是在告诉我
我目前正在投资烟草吗?”

他说,“哦,是的,每个人都是。”

当您投资一家公司时,
您就拥有该公司的一部分。

你希望那家公司成长
、成功和繁荣。

您希望该
公司吸引新客户,

您希望该
公司销售更多产品。

说到烟草,

我想不出
任何我想要的东西。

现在,我知道你只能看到
一个人

站在这个大红点上,
在这个巨大的舞台上。

但相反,我想让

你想象一下,

今天有七百万人挤在我身边。 仅在过去一年

,全世界就有 700 万人
死于烟草

试想一下,如果今天推出一个全新的行业

,到明年 6 月底,

该行业的产品
已经杀死了 700 万人。

我们中的任何人会投资
于那个新的、致命的行业吗?

烟草是
我们这个时代最紧迫的全球问题

之一,我们大多数人
在这个问题上的同谋远比我们可能意识到的要多。

因此,超级基金代表
向我解释

说,烟草公司会出现在

我投资组合的国际股票部分。

所以我问他,“那么,
我有哪些国际股票?” 两周后,

他给了我
这份名单:

我持有的国际股票排名第一的

是英美烟草公司。

第二,帝国烟草。

第四,菲利普莫里斯。

第五
,瑞典火柴公司。

前五名公司中有四家
是烟草公司,

我的投资,一位肿瘤学家。

然后我意识到这不仅仅是我。

都是我的超级基金的成员。

然后我意识到这不仅仅是
我的超级基金,它们都是。

然后我意识到
,不仅仅是养老基金,还有

银行、保险公司和基金经理。

然后我意识到
这不仅仅是澳大利亚。

这是整个全球金融部门,

完全
与烟草业纠缠在一起。

生产
每年杀死 700 万人的产品的行业。

所以我开始
和我的养老基金讨论这个问题,

从那以后我一直在讨论这个问题。

如今,财务领导者需要处理许多具有挑战性
的问题。

所以我建议他们采用一个框架

,清楚地阐明
为什么

对烟草采取强硬立场是合理的。

我建议财务主管

任何
可能投资我们资金的公司提出三个问题。

问题一:

公司生产的产品能安全使用吗?

“不”是烟草公司的答案。

零是人类唯一安全
的香烟数量。

它不能更黑白。

问题二

:公司造成的问题
在全球范围内是否如此严重,

以至于
受联合国条约或公约的约束?

“是”是烟草的答案。

事实上,联合国烟草

条约已得到 180 个国家的批准。

该条约的制定是

因为烟草对全球造成的灾难性
影响。

目前的预测
是,本世纪全球将

有 10 亿人因烟草而
死亡。

十亿人死亡。

我们只有七十亿人。

问题三与
参与的概念有关。

许多金融机构真正
想成为优秀的企业公民。

他们想利用股东权力

与公司坐下来,
与他们互动,

并鼓励他们做更好的事情。

所以问题是:

与公司的接触能否
成为变革的有效杠杆?

“不”是烟草公司的答案。

与烟草业的接触是徒劳的。

唯一可接受的结果

是烟草公司停止
其主要业务。

事实上,
与烟草业的接触

从未减少过人类死亡。

当我们考虑该框架时,
三个简单的问题,

我们可以看到

采取强有力的立场并排除
对烟草业的投资是合理和合理的。

除了联合国烟草条约

之外,事实上还有另一项全球条约
要求我们对烟草采取行动。

2015年,联合国通过
了可持续发展目标。

现在,我们谈论的是烟草

,我知道你会
直接跳到第三位:

身体健康。

事实上,

如果我们
要实现这一目标,加强烟草控制监管至关重要。

但是,再深入一点

,你会发现,除非烟草行业发生重大变革,否则
17 个目标中有 13 个是无法实现的

就个人而言,我最喜欢的目标是第 17

个目标:为目标建立伙伴关系。

目前,我们让整个全球
卫生部门

尽其所能帮助
因烟草而遭受痛苦的潮汐患者。

但话虽如此,仅在过去一年,就有
700 万人死亡

,显然,这还不够。

我们还让政府
在烟草问题上保持一致,其中 180 个政府

正忙于实施
联合国烟草条约的规定。

但这也是不够的。

如果全球金融部门继续
向烟草公司放贷

,投资烟草公司,

并努力
从烟草公司中获利,

我们就是在互相对抗。

现在,如果我们要

破坏医生所说的
“全球烟草流行”,

我们需要社会的各个部门
并肩作战

,成为解决方案的一部分。

因此,我呼吁财务

领导人实施一个框架
来处理敏感问题。

我呼吁他们维护
全球公约。

但除此之外,还有商业风险。

与长期投资烟草行业相关的纯财务风险

,我要求财务领导
者考虑这些风险。

第一个风险是
越来越少的人会吸烟,

因为
烟草监管的加强。

当这些警告被
贴在加拿大的烟盒上时,

[烟草会使你阳痿]

吸烟者的第一反应是
直接把它们还给销售人员

并说,“你能不能
把那些说他们会杀人的东西给我 我?”

(笑声)

监管受到关注,
监管减少了消费

,我们有 180 个国家
承诺加强监管。

让我们谈谈诉讼
及其带来的风险。

目前,

受到挑战的是烟草行业的商业模式。

目前,烟草业
将与烟草相关的所有健康成本外部化

政府付钱,
社区付钱,你付钱,我付钱。

烟草业将
所有这些成本外部化

,估计每年花费 1 万亿
美元。

然而,他们
将利润内部化和私有化。

2015年,魁北克

省法院
认定烟草

业确实
应对这些健康费用负责,

并责令其支付
150亿美元。

该案正在上诉中。

但它引出了一个问题,
为什么我们任何人,在任何国家,

都要为烟草业的成本买单

让我们继续讨论供应链
和那里的风险。

众所周知

,烟草业
严重依赖童工。

2017年3月,国际劳工组织

发布报告称:

“在烟草种植社区,
童工现象十分猖獗。”

美国劳工部

目前列出了 16
个使用儿童生产烟叶的国家。

对供应链的审查正在加强

,这不能
继续逃避公众的关注。

最后,对于

继续与烟草行业保持联系的个人和组织,还需要考虑声誉风险

在无数的调查中

,烟草业被
列为世界上声誉最差的行业。

让我们看看对孩子的影响。

在全球范围内

,每天估计有
100,000 名儿童开始吸烟。

这足以容纳
墨尔本板球场内的孩子。

这些孩子
中的大多数来自地球上最贫穷的社区。

在澳大利亚,人们开始吸烟的平均年龄

是 16 岁零两个月。

在我看来,他们看起来很年轻,
但最糟糕的

是,虽然我们没有
来自地球上每个国家的数据,

但我们认为这是最古老的年龄。

其他地方都更年轻。

现在是好消息。

事情正在发生变化。

金融界来了。

在与金融领袖举行了大约 2,000 次会议后

主要是在
墨尔本、悉尼

、伦敦、巴黎和纽约
以及全球各地的咖啡馆

,从
投资烟草业转移

的势头开始滚雪球。 当

财务领导
者看到事实时会惊慌失措,

并且绝大多数人
都希望成为解决方案的一部分。

在澳大利亚,我们现在有

10,636,101 个无烟退休金账户

顺便说一句,那个是我的。

(掌声)

还有很多工作要做,

但我看到谈话
从“我们应该戒烟吗?”开始。

到“为什么我们还没有这样做?”

仅在过去的一年里,八个不同国家的主要金融机构就

采取了重大的无烟行动

在澳大利亚、新西兰
、荷兰、瑞典、

丹麦、法国、爱尔兰和美国。

由主权财富基金、
基金经理、养老基金、

银行、保险公司和再保险公司提供。

自无烟投资组合开始以来,已将

超过 60 亿美元


烟草行业的投资中转移出去。

案例研究得到了很好的证明。 AMP Capital 首席执行官

在今年 3 月发布无烟公告时

表示,

“我们不准备

不惜一切代价为社会提供投资回报。”

这就是
我们需要问自己的问题。

是不是没有基准标准,
低于我们就不会

为了盈利而下沉?

一路走来,我得到了很多帮助
和难以置信的支持。

现在,如果你想做某事,

我强烈建议
你的团队中有一位公主。

迪娜·米瑞德公主殿下

是这项工作的全球大使。

我们还有一位领主、
一位骑士、一位前总理、

一位前联邦部长
和一堆首席执行官。

但改变事物的能力

并不仅仅取决于
这些极具影响力的人。

做到这一点的力量在于我们所有人。

这里的每个人都可以成为解决方案的一部分。

事实上,这里的每个人都必须
成为解决方案的一部分。

这个房间里的大多数人都

通过他们的退休基金
、银行和保险公司拥有公司。

现在是我们问他们的时候了:

他们是否将我们的
钱投资于那些制造

每年杀死 700 万人的产品的公司?

是你的钱。

这是我的钱,是我们的钱。

这是一个非常合理的问题。

这里非常拥挤,

今天有七百万人在我身边。

但如果我们现在不采取行动,一起行动,

我们将需要

在本世纪末之前为 10 亿人让路。

这是一个非常大的阶段。

但是没有更多的空间了。

谢谢你。

(掌声)