How to get back to work after a career break Carol Fishman Cohen

People returning to work
after a career break:

I call them relaunchers.

These are people who have taken
career breaks for elder care,

for childcare reasons,

pursuing a personal interest

or a personal health issue.

Closely related are
career transitioners of all kinds:

veterans, military spouses,

retirees coming out of retirement

or repatriating expats.

Returning to work
after a career break is hard

because of a disconnect
between the employers

and the relaunchers.

Employers can view hiring people
with a gap on their resume

as a high-risk proposition,

and individuals on career break
can have doubts about their abilities

to relaunch their careers,

especially if they’ve been out
for a long time.

This disconnect is a problem
that I’m trying to help solve.

Now, successful relaunchers
are everywhere and in every field.

This is Sami Kafala.

He’s a nuclear physicist in the UK

who took a five-year career break
to be home with his five children.

The Singapore press recently wrote
about nurses returning to work

after long career breaks.

And speaking of long career breaks,

this is Mimi Kahn.

She’s a social worker
in Orange County, California,

who returned to work
in a social services organization

after a 25-year career break.

That’s the longest career break
that I’m aware of.

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor

took a five-year career break
early in her career.

And this is Tracy Shapiro,
who took a 13-year career break.

Tracy answered a call for essays
by the Today Show

from people who were trying
to return to work

but having a difficult time of it.

Tracy wrote in that she was a mom of five
who loved her time at home,

but she had gone through a divorce
and needed to return to work,

plus she really wanted
to bring work back into her life

because she loved working.

Tracy was doing what so many of us do

when we feel like we’ve put in
a good day in the job search.

She was looking for a finance
or accounting role,

and she had just spent
the last nine months

very diligently researching
companies online

and applying for jobs with no results.

I met Tracy in June of 2011,

when the Today Show asked me
if I could work with her

to see if I could help her
turn things around.

The first thing I told Tracy
was she had to get out of the house.

I told her she had to go public
with her job search

and tell everyone she knew
about her interest in returning to work.

I also told her, “You are going
to have a lot of conversations

that don’t go anywhere.

Expect that, and don’t
be discouraged by it.

There will be a handful

that ultimately lead
to a job opportunity.”

I’ll tell you what happened
with Tracy in a little bit,

but I want to share with you
a discovery that I made

when I was returning to work

after my own career break of 11 years
out of the full-time workforce.

And that is, that people’s view of you
is frozen in time.

What I mean by this is,
when you start to get in touch with people

and you get back in touch
with those people from the past,

the people with whom you worked
or went to school,

they are going to remember you as you were

before your career break.

And that’s even if your sense of self
has diminished over time,

as happens with so many of us

the farther removed we are
from our professional identities.

So for example,
you might think of yourself

as someone who looks like this.

This is me, crazy after a day
of driving around in my minivan.

Or here I am in the kitchen.

But those people from the past,

they don’t know about any of this.

They only remember you as you were,

and it’s a great confidence boost
to be back in touch with these people

and hear their enthusiasm
about your interest in returning to work.

There’s one more thing I remember vividly
from my own career break.

And that was that I hardly kept up
with the business news.

My background is in finance,

and I hardly kept up with any news

when I was home caring
for my four young children.

So I was afraid I’d go into an interview

and start talking about a company
that didn’t exist anymore.

So I had to resubscribe
to the Wall Street Journal

and read it for a good six months
cover to cover before I felt

like I had a handle on what was going on
in the business world again.

I believe relaunchers
are a gem of the workforce,

and here’s why.

Think about our life stage:

for those of us who took career breaks
for childcare reasons,

we have fewer or no maternity leaves.

We did that already.

We have fewer spousal
or partner job relocations.

We’re in a more settled time of life.

We have great work experience.

We have a more mature perspective.

We’re not trying to find ourselves
at an employer’s expense.

Plus we have an energy,
an enthusiasm about returning to work

precisely because we’ve been
away from it for a while.

On the flip side, I speak with employers,

and here are two concerns
that employers have

about hiring relaunchers.

The first one is, employers
are worried that relaunchers

are technologically obsolete.

Now, I can tell you,

having been technologically
obsolete myself at one point,

that it’s a temporary condition.

I had done my financial analysis
so long ago that I used Lotus 1-2-3.

I don’t know if anyone
can even remember back that far,

but I had to relearn it on Excel.

It actually wasn’t that hard.
A lot of the commands are the same.

I found PowerPoint much more challenging,

but now I use PowerPoint all the time.

I tell relaunchers that employers
expect them to come to the table

with a working knowledge
of basic office management software.

And if they’re not up to speed,

then it’s their
responsibility to get there.

And they do.

The second area of concern
that employers have about relaunchers

is they’re worried that relaunchers
don’t know what they want to do.

I tell relaunchers that they need
to do the hard work

to figure out whether their interests
and skills have changed

or have not changed

while they have been on career break.

That’s not the employer’s job.

It’s the relauncher’s responsibility
to demonstrate to the employer

where they can add the most value.

Back in 2010 I started noticing something.

I had been tracking
return to work programs since 2008,

and in 2010, I started noticing

the use of a short-term
paid work opportunity,

whether it was called
an internship or not,

but an internship-like experience,

as a way for professionals
to return to work.

I saw Goldman Sachs and Sara Lee

start corporate reentry
internship programs.

I saw a returning engineer,
a nontraditional reentry candidate,

apply for an entry-level
internship program in the military,

and then get a permanent job afterward.

I saw two universities
integrate internships

into mid-career executive
education programs.

So I wrote a report
about what I was seeing,

and it became this article
for Harvard Business Review

called “The 40-Year-Old Intern.”

I have to thank the editors
there for that title,

and also for this artwork

where you can see the 40-year-old intern
in the midst of all the college interns.

And then, courtesy of Fox Business News,

they called the concept
“The 50-Year-Old Intern.”

(Laughter)

So five of the biggest
financial services companies

have reentry internship programs
for returning finance professionals.

And at this point,
hundreds of people have participated.

These internships are paid,

and the people who move on
to permanent roles

are commanding competitive salaries.

And now, seven of the biggest
engineering companies

are piloting reentry internship programs
for returning engineers

as part of an initiative
with the Society of Women Engineers.

Now, why are companies embracing
the reentry internship?

Because the internship allows the employer

to base their hiring decision
on an actual work sample

instead of a series of interviews,

and the employer does not have to make
that permanent hiring decision

until the internship period is over.

This testing out period
removes the perceived risk

that some managers attach
to hiring relaunchers,

and they are attracting
excellent candidates

who are turning into great hires.

Think about how far we have come.

Before this, most employers
were not interested

in engaging with relaunchers at all.

But now, not only
are programs being developed

specifically with relaunchers in mind,

but you can’t even apply
for these programs

unless you have a gap on your résumé.

This is the mark of real change,

of true institutional shift,

because if we can solve
this problem for relaunchers,

we can solve it for other
career transitioners too.

In fact, an employer just told me

that their veterans return to work program

is based on their reentry
internship program.

And there’s no reason why there can’t be
a retiree internship program.

Different pool, same concept.

So let me tell you
what happened with Tracy Shapiro.

Remember that she had to tell
everyone she knew

about her interest in returning to work.

Well, one critical conversation
with another parent in her community

led to a job offer for Tracy,

and it was an accounting job
in a finance department.

But it was a temp job.

The company told her
there was a possibility

it could turn into something more,
but no guarantees.

This was in the fall of 2011.

Tracy loved this company,
and she loved the people

and the office was less
than 10 minutes from her house.

So even though she had a second job offer

at another company
for a permanent full-time role,

she decided to take her chances
with this internship

and hope for the best.

Well, she ended up blowing away
all of their expectations,

and the company not only
made her a permanent offer

at the beginning of 2012,

but they made it even more
interesting and challenging,

because they knew what Tracy could handle.

Fast forward to 2015,

Tracy’s been promoted.

They’ve paid for her
to get her MBA at night.

She’s even hired another relauncher
to work for her.

Tracy’s temp job was a tryout,

just like an internship,

and it ended up being a win
for both Tracy and her employer.

Now, my goal is to bring
the reentry internship concept

to more and more employers.

But in the meantime,

if you are returning to work
after a career break,

don’t hesitate to suggest an internship
or an internship-like arrangement

to an employer that does not have
a formal reentry internship program.

Be their first success story,

and you can be the example
for more relaunchers to come.

Thank you.

(Applause)

职业中断后重返工作岗位的人

我称他们为重新启动者。

这些人因
照顾老人、育儿、

追求个人兴趣

或个人健康问题而中断职业生涯。

密切相关的是
各种职业过渡者:

退伍军人、军人配偶、

退休后的退休人员

或遣返的外籍人士。

由于
雇主

和重新启动者之间的脱节,职业中断后重返工作岗位很困难。

雇主可以将招聘
简历上存在差距的人

视为高风险提议,

而职业中断的个人
可能会怀疑他们

重新开始职业生涯的能力,

尤其是如果他们已经离开
了很长时间。

这种断开连接
是我试图帮助解决的一个问题。

现在,成功的重新启动
者无处不在,遍及各个领域。

这是萨米卡法拉。

他是英国的一名核物理学家,

他休了五年的职业生涯
,回家照顾他的五个孩子。

新加坡媒体最近
报道了护士

在长时间的职业生涯中断后重返工作岗位。

说到长期的职业生涯中断,

这是咪咪卡恩。

她是
加利福尼亚州奥兰治县的一名社会工作者,在

中断 25 年的职业生涯后重返社会服务组织工作。

这是我所知道的最长的职业生涯中断

最高法院大法官 Sandra Day O’Connor

在她职业生涯的早期中断了五年的职业
生涯。

这是特蕾西·夏皮罗(Tracy Shapiro),
他中断了 13 年的职业生涯。

特蕾西
回应了《今日秀》的征文邀请,这些


试图重返工作岗位,

但遇到了困难。

特蕾西写道,她是一个五个孩子的妈妈,
她很喜欢在家的时光,

但她经历了离婚
,需要重返工作岗位,

而且她真的很想
把工作带回她的生活,

因为她喜欢工作。

当我们觉得自己
在求职中度过了美好的一天时,特蕾西正在做我们许多人所做的事情。

她正在寻找一个财务
或会计职位,

并且
在过去的九个月里,她

非常勤奋地在
网上研究公司

并申请了没有结果的工作。

我在 2011 年 6 月遇到了特蕾西,

当时《今日秀》问
我是否可以和她一起工作,

看看我是否可以帮助她
扭转局面。

我告诉特蕾西的第一件事
是她必须离开家。

我告诉她,她必须
公开她的求职,

并告诉她认识的每个人
她有兴趣重返工作岗位。

我还告诉她,“你
将有很多对话

无处可去。

期待这一点,不要因此
而气馁。

会有

一些最终会
带来工作机会。”

我稍后会告诉你
特蕾西发生了什么,

但我想与你分享
一个

我在离开全职工作岗位 11 年后重返工作岗位时的发现

也就是说,人们对你的看法
被时间冻结了。

我的意思是,
当你开始与人接触

并与过去

的人、与你一起工作
或上学的人恢复联系时,

他们会像以前一样记住你

你的职业生涯中断。

即使你的自我意识
随着时间的推移而减弱,

就像我们中的许多人一样,

我们离职业身份越远。

例如,
您可能会认为自己

是这样的人。

这就是我,
在我的小型货车里兜了一天之后,我很疯狂。

或者我在厨房里。

但那些过去的人,

他们对这一切一无所知。

他们只记得你

原来的样子
,与这些人重新联系

并听到他们
对你有兴趣重返工作岗位的热情是极大的信心提升。

在我自己的职业生涯中断中,我还清楚地记得另一件事。

那就是我几乎没有
跟上商业新闻。

我的背景是金融,

当我在家
照顾四个年幼的孩子时,我几乎没有收到任何消息。

所以我害怕我会去面试

并开始谈论
一家不再存在的公司。

因此,我不得不重新
订阅《华尔街日报》

并阅读了整整六个月的
封面,然后

我才觉得自己再次掌握了商业世界正在发生的事情

我相信重新启动者
是劳动力的瑰宝

,这就是原因。

想想我们的人生阶段:

对于我们这些因育儿原因而中断职业生涯的人来说

我们的产假更少或没有。

我们已经这样做了。

我们的配偶
或伴侣工作调动较少。

我们正处于一个更加安定的生活时期。

我们有很好的工作经验。

我们有更成熟的视角。

我们并不是要
以雇主为代价来寻找自己。

另外,我们有一种精力,
一种对重返工作岗位的热情,

正是因为我们已经
离开了一段时间。

另一方面,我与雇主交谈,雇主

对雇用重新启动者有两个担忧。

第一个是,
雇主担心重新启动

在技术上已经过时。

现在,我可以告诉你,我

自己曾经在技术上
过时

,这是一种暂时的情况。

我很久以前就做过财务分析,
所以我使用了 Lotus 1-2-3。

我不知道是否有人
能记得那么远,

但我不得不在 Excel 上重新学习。

其实没那么难。
很多命令都是一样的。

我发现 PowerPoint 更具挑战性,

但现在我一直在使用 PowerPoint。

我告诉重新启动者,雇主
希望他们能够

掌握基本办公管理软件的工作知识。

如果他们没有跟上速度,

那么他们有
责任到达那里。

他们做到了。

雇主对重新启动者的第二个担忧

是他们担心重新启动
者不知道他们想做什么。

我告诉重新启动者,他们需要

努力弄清楚他们的兴趣
和技能

在职业生涯中断期间是否发生了变化。

那不是雇主的工作。

重新启动者有责任
向雇主

展示他们可以在哪些方面增加最大价值。

早在 2010 年,我就开始注意到一些事情。

自 2008 年以来,我一直在跟踪重返工作计划,

并在 2010 年开始

注意到使用短期
带薪工作机会,

无论它
是否称为实习,

而是类似实习的经历,

作为专业人士的一种方式
重返工作岗位。

我看到高盛和 Sara Lee

开始了企业再入
实习计划。

我看到一个归来的工程师,
一个非传统的再入职候选人,在军队

申请了一个入门级的
实习项目,

然后得到了一份长期的工作。

我看到两所大学
将实习

融入到职业中期的高管
教育项目中。

所以我写了一篇
关于我所看到的报告

,它成为
了哈佛商业评论的这篇文章,

名为“40岁的实习生”。

我要感谢那里的编辑
给这个标题

,也感谢这幅作品

,你可以
在所有大学实习生中看到这位 40 岁的实习生。

然后,在 Fox Business News 的帮助下,

他们将这个概念称为
“50 岁的实习生”。

(笑声)

因此,五家最大的
金融服务公司

为回国的金融专业人士提供了再入实习计划。

而此时,
已有数百人参与。

这些实习是有偿的,


转为长期职位的人将获得

有竞争力的薪水。

现在,作为女性工程师协会倡议的一部分,七家最大的
工程公司

正在为返回的工程师试行再入实习计划

现在,为什么公司要
接受再入实习?

因为实习允许雇主

根据实际工作样本

而不是一系列面试

来做出
雇用决定

,并且在实习期结束之前,雇主不必做出永久雇用决定。

这个测试期
消除了

一些经理
对招聘重新启动者的感知风险

,他们正在吸引
优秀的候选人

,这些候选人正在变成优秀的员工。

想想我们已经走了多远。

在此之前,大多数
雇主根本没有

兴趣与重新启动者合作。

但是现在,不仅

专门针对重新启动者开发的程序,

而且

除非您的简历上有空白,否则您甚至不能申请这些程序。

这是真正变革

、真正制度转变的标志,

因为如果我们能够
为重新启动者解决这个问题,

我们也可以为其他
职业转型者解决这个问题。

事实上,一位雇主刚刚告诉我

,他们的退伍军人重返工作计划

是基于他们的再入
实习计划。

而且没有理由不能
有退休人员实习计划。

不同的游泳池,相同的概念。

所以让我告诉
你特雷西夏皮罗发生了什么。

请记住,她必须告诉
她认识的每个人

她对重返工作岗位的兴趣。

好吧,
与她所在社区的另一位家长的一次重要对话

导致了 Tracy 的工作机会

,这
是财务部门的会计工作。

但这是一份临时工作。

该公司告诉她

它有可能变成更多东西,
但不能保证。

那是在 2011 年秋天

。Tracy 很喜欢这家公司,
也很喜欢这里的人

,而且办公室
离她家不到 10 分钟的路程。

因此,即使她

在另一家公司
获得了一份永久全职职位的第二份工作

机会,她还是决定抓住
这次实习的机会,

并希望取得最好的成绩。

好吧,她最终打破
了他们的所有期望

,公司不仅在 2012 年初
向她提供了一份永久聘用

而且还让她变得更加
有趣和具有挑战性,

因为他们知道 Tracy 可以处理什么。

快进到 2015 年,

特蕾西升职了。

他们已经
付钱让她在晚上获得 MBA 学位。

她甚至聘请了另一位重新启动
者为她工作。

特蕾西的临时工作

就像实习一样

是一次试训,最终
对特蕾西和她的雇主都有利。

现在,我的目标是
将再入实习的概念

带给越来越多的雇主。

但与此同时,

如果您
在职业中断后重返工作岗位,

请不要犹豫,向没有正式再入实习计划的雇主建议实习
或类似实习的安排

成为他们的第一个成功故事

,您可以
成为更多重新启动者的榜样。

谢谢你。

(掌声)