A playful exploration of gender performance Jo Michael Rezes

Transcriber: Ivana Korom
Reviewer: Camille Martínez

(Music: “La Vie en Rose”)

Cecily: Ah, well,
I feel rather frightened.

I’m so afraid he will look
just like everyone else.

(Algernon sniffs)

C: He does.

Algernon: You are my little
cousin Cecily, I’m sure.

C: You are under some grave mistake.

I’m not little.

In fact, I do believe I’m actually
more than usually tall for my age.

But I am your cousin Cecily,

and you, I see, are also here
helping Jo Michael Rezes

with their TEDx talk.

And you are my cousin Ernest,
my wicked cousin Ernest.

A: Oh! Well, I’m not really
wicked at all, cousin Cecily.

You mustn’t think that I am wicked.

C: Well, I hope you haven’t
been leading a double life,

pretending to be good
and being really wicked all the time.

That would be hypocrisy.

A: Well, of course,
I have been rather reckless.

C: I am glad to hear it.

A: But the world is good enough
for me, cousin Cecily.

C: Yes, but are you good enough for it?

A: I’m afraid I am not that.

That’s why I want you to reform me.

C: Well, I’m afraid
I have no time this afternoon.

The TED talk and all.

(Laughter)

A: Well, would you mind
my reforming myself this afternoon?

C: Oh, that’s rather quixotic of you,

but I think you should try.

A: Good. I feel better already.

C: You’re looking a little worse.

A: Well, might I have that pink rose?

C: Why?

A: Because you are
like a pink rose, cousin Cecily.

C: Well, I don’t think
it could be right for you

to talk to me like that.

A: You are the prettiest girl I ever saw.

C: But – well, I – I –

A: And, and ahem –

C: All good looks are a snare and –

A: Well, it’s a snare
that every sensible man

would like to be caught in, and …

Jo Michael Rezes: (Sighs)

I’m so sorry, I um –

I didn’t finish rehearsing.

Um, well it’s not because
I can’t walk in heels,

I’m actually really good at that,

and I can prove it to you, too,
but I really am sorry.

Hold on.

Uh, um.

No matter.

No matter.

Right.

Right, introductions.

It’s a TEDx talk. Right.

Hi, there! (Laughs) Um.

My name is Jo Michael Rezes,

and I’m a PhD student here
in theater and performance studies.

And I specialize in the study
of queer identities

as they maneuver and affect
the perceptions of time

in the performance of camp.

You know camp?

Sincerity in irony’s clothing?

Making the kitsch feel like home?

No?

The Met Gala theme from 2019

that was thoroughly misunderstood
by over 95 percent of its attendees?

(Laughter)

No? OK, anyway.

I’m also an actor-director
and theater educator at large

in the greater Boston area.

Oh, and where are my manners?

The friends I brought with me today
are Algernon and Cecily

from Oscar Wilde’s famously
well-known play,

“The Importance of Being Earnest.”

And they’ll be back, don’t worry.

I’ve only scared them off a bit.

And let’s be honest,

it wouldn’t be a TEDx talk

without things wrapping up nicely
at the end, would it?

(Laughter)

You know, I hope
that wasn’t too awful, though.

It was awkward, I know, to watch me fail.

To fail at what, exactly, though?

To play a man and a woman
at the same time?

I mean, to play a man and a woman
when I’m actually neither?

Why does it feel so awkward
when we see someone fail at gender,

and why do we care?

I mean, obviously, me screwing this up
was done on purpose.

Obviously, I had this all
perfectly memorized

and rehearsed for today, right?

Right?

(Laughter)

Well, I’m here today to talk about
gender performativity

and the ways in which I’ve used
my acting classroom

as a space to disrupt the finality
of gender performance,

to open up a looser space
for thinking about gender identity

through supportive failure,

generous mistakes
and honest communication.

We all, actors or otherwise,

can play with gender
in our everyday lives.

And I call this “gender rehearsativity.”

Now, before all of the queer theorists
and women’s studies degree holders

and Judith Butler fanatics in the audience

start to tear the half-and-half,
hyperbinary costume off of my body,

let me first explain where popular culture

has already begun to misunderstand
gender performativity,

before I move into
the rehearsativity I hold so dear.

Now, as an educator

and as a youngish
20-something-year-old trans person,

I’m constantly hearing from my
20-something-year-old students,

friends and colleagues

that gender is “over” –

that gender is so fluid and carefree

and that society, film and television
are so inclusive of transgender people,

that it’s basically over.

Now, I don’t ascribe to the binary,
as a nonbinary person myself.

But gender definitely isn’t over.

Or, at least I don’t think it is.

And maybe, just maybe,
gender is always beginning.

This last semester,

at roughly 10:23am,

two of my acting students,

while embodying delicious caricatures
of fraternity brothers –

forgive me, I don’t remember
his or his name –

well, they rounded up the class,

and these two women in snapbacks
and baggy clothing

slacked their mouths to reveal lax jaws
and lax bro mentalities.

And, astounding as it was to watch,

these women fluctuated
between irony and satire,

the uncanny and the ruthlessly so,
pain and joy, until ultimately

they failed to be the men
they were choosing to embody.

They simply stopped talking.

Silence.

A lull hit the class,

and time seemed to be
sucked clean out of the room.

And in this moment of loud stillness,

one of the women,

still using her frat bro voice
though fully out of character,

said, nearly in a whisper,

(In frat bro voice)
“Gender is a social construct.”

(Laughter)

I’ll admit: I laughed along
with my students that morning,

partially at the comedic timing
that my student had in her delivery

but also at the fact that society
has turned gender performativity

into gender as social construct.

Now, listen to this:

I think that this idea has come
from renowned queer studies scholar

Judith Butler,

whose seminal work
in the performativity of gender

has gone on to be a staple

in undergraduate classrooms
at liberal arts institutions.

Now, this SparkNotes version
of Butler’s work

is found in the idea that gender exists
in repeated words and actions.

And these performatives create
and are created

by the bodies of real human beings.

Now, listen to this:

“Moreover, in a 1988 essay,

Butler claims that gender is an act
which has been rehearsed.

In this way,

gender through repetition
becomes a recognizable script,

which requires actors to reproduce it.”

Huh.

Much like my attempt
at “The Importance of Being Earnest.”

Ooh, I mean – look at my costume.

(In a deep voice) Why does this half
make me feel manly, masculine, suave,

(In a high voice) and this half makes me
feel girly, fabulous and feminine?

I mean, some of us even forget
that gender is there,

because it is so well-rehearsed
into our bodies.

But there’s always an ideal of gender
that we can never quite achieve.

But it’s up to us to play with it.

Now, I’ve played with gender
throughout my own career as an actor,

and in one semester
as an undergraduate student,

I was cast in two roles simultaneously:

Brad Majors in “The Rocky Horror Show,”

and Charlotte Ivanovna
in “The Cherry Orchard.”

One man, one woman and one me.

I would go from one rehearsal,

playing the manly, aggressive Brad,

only to be pulled,
moments later, into a wig

and delicately blended eyeliner
as Charlotte, a German governess.

The constant push and pull
of these identities

was not only invaluable
to my work as an actor,

attempting to span the spectrum
of gender in my work,

but it also revealed to me

that my own queer identities

are deeply indebted to embodying
the extremes of gender.

These characters held important
facets of my identities,

of my body,

my daily pain,

of my social interactions, of my memories,

and rehearsing these characters
allowed me to explore those identities,

which has opened up my need
as an acting teacher

to show the importance
of playing with gender in rehearsal.

So when I present to you all

(In a high voice) Cecily

and (In a deep voice) Algernon,

there are these parts
of these two characters that I respect,

understand implicitly,

oppressions I can relate to,
fears I can embody,

aggressive tendencies
that I try to forget.

But there are also
plenty of characteristics

with which I have no personal experience,

nothing I can draw from.

And sometimes in a flurry of rehearsal,

of reading a script,

of creating a character,

well … we make a mistake.

Algernon’s aggressive
flirtation towards Cecily

doesn’t sit well in my body,

or Cecily’s calm demeanor
as written by Oscar Wilde,

just doesn’t sit right,

and I literally trip up.

Now, this TEDx talk is a performance

in front of so many people.

And it differs quite drastically
from my classrooms in that regard.

But there is such a recognizable
pressure in our daily lives

to perform our gender,

our selves,

on a stage like this.

Quite frankly,

failure to pass as a man
or a woman effectively

is still dangerous for transgender
and gender nonconforming people.

And listen to this:

according to the 2015
US Transgender Survey,

nearly half of respondents voiced

that they had been verbally
harassed in the past year

because of their gender
identity or expression.

And that number is shown
only to increase in communities of color.

Many of us now claim to view gender
on a spectrum – and that’s great –

including 60 percent
of Generation Z individuals

who reported to the Pew
Research Center in 2019

that they believe forms with boxes
for “male” or “female”

should include more gender options.

But in spite of this,

there is still latent fear
of making gender mistakes

in offices, in classrooms,

in the eyes of the government,

in romantic situations,

and for some of us,

even in the mirror
when we wake up in the morning.

But our gender mistakes
have the potential for something good.

Even in the binary,

approaching life on the stage
as a man or a woman,

we can support each other
in experimentation,

trips and stumbles,

two-hour-long meditations on

or five-second costume
changes with gender.

And failure is a key part

of Judith Butler’s theory
of performativity.

But I do believe that for most people,

like you all out there,

you might hear “performativity”
and hear “perform.”

That’s to say, performance-ready

or if not performance-ready,

perhaps performance in general
gives you anxiety.

Or the stage fright that I have
to this very day.

What we need to understand
is that failing at gender

can and should be a positive,
generative process.

The mistakes we make with gender
can only help us grow

and better understand the multitudes
of gender around us.

But we need to make space
for these mistakes.

We need to hold space for failure.

And that’s where rehearsativity
comes into play.

Now, one of the main points
I like to make with my acting students

when they’re last-minute panicking
about a monologue or a scene,

is that no one is ever actually ready.

I mean, we’re never actually
done rehearsing,

we’re just put in front of an audience.

When I taught a workshop
on gender-bending this last summer

at Somerville Arts for Youth,

I made it quite clear
to a group of middle school-aged students

that you cannot be a bully
and a good actor at the same time.

It’s impossible.

There is something
about the act of embodiment

that requires empathy to survive.

Bullying prohibits the creative process.

As these middle schoolers
moved about the room,

trying on the extremes
of binary gender presentation,

this dissolved into galumphing,

laughter,

parodying of stereotypes
they see in movies and on television,

joy in the failure to understand gender.

Even my college students,
in “Introduction to Acting,”

jumped on the opportunity
to play with gender

when I restricted their time to think.

On Halloween last year,

I asked my students
to come to class in costume

and to, well, to throw their hats
into the middle of a circle,

metaphorically and literally,

and the only rule of the game

was that they had to go
into the center of the circle,

take on a hat, pick a character,

and then switch.

No time to think.

And it wasn’t until two men in the class

noticed no one running
to the center of the circle

that they jumped into the center,

and one became

(In a deep voice) a British chauvinist,

(In a high voice) and the other,
a high-pitched, coy British lady.

Time stood still.

Laughter,

mimicry,

joy, again,

in the failure to understand gender.

That’s the potential
of gender rehearsativity.

And I challenge you all

to think of your days as mini-rehearsals.

Cultivate spaces in your life
to explore gender.

And allow other people
to explore their gender.

Fail at gender.

I wish I could give you more tangible ways
to go out and do this.

But gender is funny like that.

Gender is an act which has been rehearsed.

Some acts more rehearsed
than others. (Laughs)

But gender is far from being perfect.

And sometimes,

just like in rehearsal,

when we support each other
in times of play,

in times of joy and times of pain,

we wind up succeeding more
than if we hadn’t tried or failed at all.

A: Well, I think
that has been a great success.

I’m in love with Cecily,
and that is everything.

But I must see her before I go.

Oh, there she is.

C: Oh, I merely came back
to water the roses.

I thought we were at a TEDx talk with Jo.

A: Oh.

Well, they’ve gone to order
the dogcart for me.

C: Oh.

Are they going to take you
for a nice drive?

A: They’re going to send me away.

C: Oh.

So we have to part.

A: I’m afraid so.

It’s a very painful parting.

C: Well, the absence of old friends
one can endure with equanimity.

But even a momentary separation

from anyone whom they’ve just met

is almost unbearable.

JMR: Thank you.

(Applause)

抄写员:Ivana Korom
审稿人:Camille Martínez

(音乐:“La Vie en Rose”)

Cecily:啊,好吧,
我觉得很害怕。

我很害怕他看起来
和其他人一样。

(Algernon 吸了吸鼻子)

C:他有。

阿尔杰农:你是我的小
表妹塞西莉,我敢肯定。

C: 你犯了一个严重的错误。

我不小。

事实上,我确实相信我实际上
比我这个年龄的通常高。

但我是你的表妹 Cecily

,我知道你也在
帮助 Jo Michael Rezes

的 TEDx 演讲。

而你是我的堂兄欧内斯特,
我邪恶的堂兄欧内斯特。

  • 答:哦! 好吧,塞西莉堂兄,我一点也不
    坏。

你不要以为我是坏人。

C:嗯,我希望你
没有过着双重生活,

一直装好
,真的很坏。

那将是虚伪。

A:嗯,当然,
我是相当鲁莽的。

C:我很高兴听到这个消息。

A: 但是这个世界
对我来说已经足够好了,Cecily 表妹。

C: 是的,但你足够好了吗?

A:恐怕我不是这样的。

这就是为什么我要你改造我。

C:嗯,恐怕
我今天下午没时间。

TED演讲等等。

(笑声)

A:嗯,你
介意我今天下午改头换面吗?

C: 哦,你这话有点不切实际,

但我认为你应该试试。

一个好的。 我已经感觉好多了。

C:你看起来更糟了。

A:嗯,我可以要那朵粉红玫瑰吗?

C:为什么?

A:因为你
就像一朵粉红玫瑰,塞西莉表妹。

C:嗯,我认为
你不应该

这样跟我说话。

A:你是我见过的最漂亮的女孩。

C: 但是——嗯,我——我——

A: 而且,咳咳——

C: 所有漂亮的外表都是一个圈套而且——

A: 嗯,这是一个
每个明智的

人都想陷入的圈套, 还有……

Jo Michael Rezes:(叹气)

我很抱歉,我,嗯——

我没有完成排练。

嗯,这不是因为
我不能穿高跟鞋,

我实际上很擅长

,我也可以向你证明这一点,
但我真的很抱歉。

坚持,稍等。

嗯,嗯。

不管。

不管。

对。

对了,介绍。

这是一个 TEDx 演讲。 对。

你好呀! (笑)嗯。

我的名字是 Jo Michael Rezes

,我
是戏剧和表演研究的博士生。

我专注于
研究酷儿身份,

因为他们在营地表演中操纵和影响
对时间的感知

你知道营地吗?

讽刺装扮的真诚?

让媚俗有家的感觉?

不? 超过 95% 的与会者完全误解

了 2019 年的 Met Gala 主题

(笑声)

不是吗? 好吧,无论如何。

我也是大波士顿地区的一名演员兼导演
和戏剧教育家

哦,我的礼貌呢?

我今天带来的朋友

是奥斯卡王尔德
著名戏剧

“认真的重要性”中的阿尔杰农和塞西莉。

他们会回来的,别担心。

我只是把他们吓跑了一点。

老实说,

如果最后没有

很好
地结束,这不会是一场 TEDx 演讲,不是吗?

(笑声)

你知道,不过我希望
那不是太糟糕。

我知道,看着我失败是很尴尬的。

但是,究竟要在什么方面失败?

同时扮演一个男人和一个女人

我的意思是,
在我实际上都不是的时候扮演一个男人和一个女人?

为什么
当我们看到有人在性别上失败时会感到如此尴尬,我们

为什么要关心?

我的意思是,显然,我把这件事搞砸
是故意的。

显然,我今天已经
完美地记住

和排练了这一切,对吧?

对?

(笑声)

好吧,我今天来这里是为了谈论
性别表演

以及我如何利用
我的表演课堂

作为一个空间来破坏
性别表演的最终性,

为思考性别认同开辟一个更宽松的空间

支持性的失败、

慷慨的错误
和诚实的沟通。

我们所有人,无论是演员还是其他人,

都可以
在日常生活中玩弄性别。

我称之为“性别排练”。

现在,在所有酷儿理论家
和女性研究学位持有者

以及观众中的朱迪思·巴特勒狂热者

开始撕下我身上的半对半、
超二元服装之前,

让我先解释一下流行文化

已经开始误解
性别的地方 表演性,

在我进入
我非常珍视的排练之前。

现在,作为一名教育工作者

和一个年轻的
20 多岁的跨性别者,

我经常听到我
20 多岁的学生、

朋友和同事

说性别已经“结束”了

——性别是如此 流动和无忧无虑

,社会、电影和
电视如此包容跨性别者

,它基本上结束了。

现在,
作为一个非二进制的人,我不认为是二进制。

但性别绝对没有结束。

或者,至少我不这么认为。

也许,只是也许,
性别总是开始。

这最后一个学期

,大约上午 10 点 23 分,

我的两个表演系学生,

一边表现
着兄弟会兄弟的美味漫画——请

原谅我,我不记得
他或他的名字了——

好吧,他们围观了全班

,这两个 穿着snapbacks
和宽松衣服的女性

张开嘴,露出松弛的下巴
和松弛的兄弟心态。

而且,令人震惊的是,

这些女性
在讽刺和讽刺

、离奇和无情、
痛苦和快乐之间摇摆不定,直到最终

她们未能成为
她们选择的男人。

他们干脆不说话了。

安静。

全班安静

下来,时间似乎被
吸出了房间。

在这喧嚣的寂静时刻,

其中一位女性,尽管完全不合时宜,但

仍在使用她兄弟会的声音

,几乎是低声说,

(以兄弟会的声音)
“性别是一种社会结构。”

(笑声)

我承认:
那天早上我和我的学生们一起笑了,

部分原因
是我的学生在她的演讲中的喜剧时机,

但也因为社会
已经将性别表演

变成了作为社会建构的性别这一事实。

现在,听听这个:

我认为这个想法
来自著名的酷儿研究学者

朱迪思·巴特勒(Judith Butler),


在性别表演性

方面的开创性工作已经成为

文科院校本科生课堂的主要内容。

现在,
巴特勒作品的这个 SparkNotes 版本

发现了性别存在
于重复的言行中的想法。

而这些表演性的创造

并被真实人类的身体所创造。

现在,听听这个:

“此外,巴特勒在 1988 年的一篇文章中

声称,性别是
一种已经排练过的行为

。这样,

通过重复,性别
成为一个可识别的剧本,

这需要演员来重现它。”

嗯。

就像我
尝试“认真的重要性”一样。

哦,我的意思是——看看我的服装。

(低声)为什么这一半
让我觉得有男子气概、阳刚、温文尔雅,

(高声)而这一半让我
觉得少女、神话般和女性化?

我的意思是,我们中的一些人甚至忘记
了性别的存在,

因为它在我们的身体中已经被很好地排练过

但总有
一个我们永远无法完全实现的性别理想。

但这取决于我们玩它。

现在,
在我作为演员的整个职业生涯中,我一直在研究性别问题

,在
本科生的一个学期里,

我同时扮演了两个角色:

《洛基恐怖秀》中的布拉德·梅杰斯


《樱桃》中的夏洛特·伊万诺夫娜 果园。”

一个男人,一个女人,一个我。

我会从一次排练中走出来,

扮演有男子气概、咄咄逼人的布拉德

,但
片刻之后,我却被拉成一顶假发

和精致混合的眼线
,扮演德国家庭教师夏洛特。

这些身份的不断推动和拉动

不仅
对我作为演员的工作是无价的,

试图
在我的作品中跨越性别范围,

但它也向我揭示了

我自己的酷儿

身份深深地归功于体现
性别的极端 .

这些角色
包含了我的身份

、我的身体、

我的日常痛苦

、我的社交互动、我的记忆的重要方面

,排练这些角色
让我能够探索这些身份,

这开启了我
作为一名表演老师的需要,

向我展示
在排练中玩性别的重要性。

所以当我向大家介绍

(高声)塞西莉

和(低声)阿尔杰农时

,我尊重这两个角色的这些部分,

含蓄地理解,

我可以理解的压迫,
我可以体现的恐惧,

侵略性
我试图忘记的倾向。

但也有
很多

我没有亲身经历的特征,我

没有什么可以借鉴的。

有时在排练

、阅读剧本

、创造角色的过程中,

嗯……我们犯了一个错误。

阿尔杰农对塞西莉的咄咄逼人的

调情在我的身体中并不合适,

或者
奥斯卡王尔德所写的塞西莉的平静举止,

只是不合适

,我真的绊倒了。

现在,这个 TEDx 演讲是

在这么多人面前的一场表演。 在

这方面,它与
我的课堂截然不同。

但是,
在我们的日常生活中,有如此明显的压力要在这样的舞台

上表演我们的性别

、我们自己

坦率地说,

未能有效地以男性或女性身份通过

对跨性别者和性别不合格者来说仍然是危险的

听听这个:

根据 2015 年
美国跨性别调查,

近一半的受访者表示

,他们
在过去一年中

因为性别
认同或性别表达受到过言语骚扰。

而这个数字
只会在有色人种社区中增加。

我们中的许多人现在声称
在一个范围内看待性别——这很好——

包括 60%
的 Z 一代人,他们

在 2019 年向皮尤研究中心报告

,他们认为带有
“男性”或“女性”框的表格

应该包括 更多性别选择。

但尽管如此,

在办公室、教室

、政府眼中

、浪漫情境

中,甚至我们中的一些人,

甚至
早上醒来的镜子里,仍然存在对性别错误的潜在恐惧。

但是我们的性别错误
有可能带来一些好处。

即使在二元中,

以男人或女人的身份接近舞台上的生活,

我们也可以
在实验、

旅行和绊倒、

两小时的冥想

或五秒的服装
变化中相互支持。

失败

是朱迪思·巴特勒的
表演理论的关键部分。

但我确实相信,对于大多数人来说,

就像你们一样,

你可能会听到“表演”和“表演
”。

也就是说,性能准备好

或者如果没有性能准备好,

也许一般的性能
会让你感到焦虑。

或者我
到今天为止的怯场。

我们需要了解的
是,在性别方面的失败

可以而且应该是一个积极的、
产生性的过程。

我们在性别方面所犯的错误
只会帮助我们成长

并更好地了解
我们周围的众多性别。

但我们需要
为这些错误腾出空间。

我们需要为失败留出空间。

这就是
排练发挥作用的地方。

现在,当
我的表演

学生在最后一刻对独白或场景感到恐慌时,我想与他们提出的主要观点

之一是,没有人真正准备好。

我的意思是,我们实际上从来没有
完成排练,

我们只是被放在观众面前。 去年夏天,

当我在萨默维尔青年艺术学院教授一个
关于性别弯曲的研讨会时

我向一群中学生明确

表示,你不能同时成为一个恶霸
和一个好演员。

不可能。

体现的行为有些

东西需要同理心才能生存。

欺凌阻碍了创作过程。

当这些中学生
在房间里走来走去,

尝试
二元性别呈现的极端时,

这变成了装腔作势、

大笑、


他们在电影和电视上看到的刻板印象的模仿,以及

对无法理解性别的喜悦。

甚至我的大学生,
在“表演入门”中

当我限制他们思考的时间时,也抓住了玩性别的机会。

去年的万圣节,

我让我的学生
们穿着服装来上课,

然后,嗯,把他们的帽子
扔进一个圆圈的中间,

比喻和字面意思

,唯一的游戏规则

是他们必须
进入 圆圈的中心

,戴上帽子,选择一个角色,

然后切换。

没时间思考。

直到班上的两个人

注意到没有人
跑到圆圈

的中心,他们才跳到了中心

,一个

(低声)成为英国沙文主义者,

(高声)另一个 ,
一位高亢、腼腆的英国女士。

时间暂停。

笑声,

模仿,

喜悦,再次,

在未能理解性别。

这就是
性别排练的潜力。

我挑战你们所有人

,把你们的日子想象成小型排练。

在你的生活中培养空间
来探索性别。

并允许其他
人探索他们的性别。

在性别上失败。

我希望我能给你更多切实可行的方式
来做这件事。

但是性别就是这样有趣。

性别是一种已经排练过的行为。

有些行为比其他行为更排练
。 (笑)

但是性别远非完美。

有时,

就像在排练中一样,

当我们
在玩耍时、

在快乐时和痛苦时相互支持时,

我们最终会
比没有尝试或失败时更成功。

A:嗯,我认为
这是一个巨大的成功。

我爱上了塞西莉
,这就是一切。

但我必须在走之前见到她。

哦,她来了。

C:哦,我只是回来
给玫瑰浇水。

我以为我们正在和 Jo 进行一次 TEDx 谈话。

答:哦。

好吧,他们已经
为我订购了狗车。

C:哦。

他们会
带你去兜风吗?

A:他们要把我送走。

C:哦。

所以我们必须分开。

答:恐怕是这样。

这是一个非常痛苦的离别。

C: 好吧,老朋友不在,
我们可以平静地忍受。

但即使是

与刚认识的人的短暂分离

也几乎无法忍受。

JMR:谢谢。

(掌声)