How The Corona Crisis Helped Us Find New Intergenerational Discourse

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i am in the business

of the future which for many people

sounds a little bit

weird and also probably because most

other futurists if you look around in

the world of futurology

are usually quite a bit older than me

and always keep on talking about

technology and how

artificial intelligence is going to save

all of us and so on

my interest personally more is the more

softer one i’m interested in how

society and especially generations are

adapting and communicating with one

another

and as was mentioned before the

communication between generations tends

to be very very difficult

and that’s why i thought the corona

crisis was such an interesting time to

see

how this discourse was changed and what

happened even if only for a brief moment

because as

i speak right now i think some of the

benefits and some of the experiences we

had are slowly getting lost again and

that’s why i kind of like to

recapitulate

what happened why it was good and then

the question of how we can hold it

and how it can help all of us the world

after corona

is obviously a very difficult one to see

i think this is the question that most

futurists get all the time is how will

the world

be afterwards and obviously it is very

difficult for us as individuals to put

ourselves into a

future when the crisis is so imminent

when it is

so incredibly close which is why i would

like to ask you to not look into the

future for a second

but feel back into the past

in the moment of lockdown and it came to

everyone at different times

there was a feeling of solidarity within

society that i think

we have missed for a very long time even

and i think this needs to be mentioned

at this point whilst

on facebook and other social media

platforms discussion between groups is

getting more and more difficult

because we do like fighting here and now

there was a moment during corona

where even the anti-vaccination crowd

shot up for a second

and just listened and saw what was

happening we were all in this boat

of fear to a certain extent together and

i think that was quite an

interesting experience because when we

put aside our differences and the things

we like to fight about usually

suddenly a lot was possible things that

seemed impossible in a rebellion before

that namely friday’s the future where we

asked for

um you know calm down a bit can we turn

down the economy a bit maybe consume a

bit less

that was all deemed completely

impossible and in the second

the crisis or the enemy was in front of

the gates

we managed to pull together as a society

over age groups

and kind of get it under control for

some time at least

so the central question that kind of

comes out of this

generational solidarity is was this

something we can hold

is there an intergenerational solidarity

that we can find that we can hold that

we can perpetuate

a move towards the future in you know in

a combination of different societies and

uh generations instead of everyone

always just looking out

for their own age group if you may

and i think if we look back at this

beautiful phrase i’m sure you remember

it okay boomer

that went through the internet that got

me that was a sign of when

generational discourse was not working

okay boomer basically meant okay we were

trying to discuss

the climate crisis and the future to

come and essentially

we said the younger generation said okay

boomer this is not working the

conversation we are not on the same

level

okay you do your thing we do our thing

and that’s something that i hope this

intergenerational solidarity that we

found

that we can get behind because as said

for some time

we were quite close and then this whole

okay boomer dynamic kind of is slowly

coming

up again the youth are trying to you

know go out and live again

after a few months of lockdown there’s a

will for freedom

and that is kind of leading to erosion

of this

solidarity that we had and i think at

this point it would also be interesting

to mention

that the boomer generation the baby

boomer generation which has this divide

to the younger generation now

i think me as a person of the younger

generation should maybe say this

you did a great job you rebuilt the

world after the second world

war you brought individualization and

tolerance to

most of at least western society and

that is a

really good thing but what has happened

through the

basically this communication between

these two groups or the underlying you

know not always completely bubbling over

conflicts

was that a new quite funny if you ask me

type of generation or

generational mean as okay boomer was as

well was born and those are the

so-called doomers

so quite funnily you know the gen z is

the youngest generation they’re the

digital

crazies as they call them and they were

called zoomers

for a long time like zooming around you

know you always said they had very bad

attention spans and so on so you know

very unfocused and so on

and now because the situation for the

younger generations to a certain extent

looks so dire especially if we look at

the job market and the economy and the

outlook of global growth

they have changed from the zoomers to

the doomers and it’s quite funny you can

go online and find

doomer music playlists for instance

which are just very sad guitar music

with people mumbling over it

it’s absolutely fantastic i can only

recommend it but you see if the if the

world is divided into boomers and

doomers i don’t think we’re gonna get

very far in this entire thing and i

think there are two main

main efforts that we need to take in

order to bridge this gap properly

so the one thing us younger people need

i’m afraid to say this

is something i would call historic

empathy so

right now in the discussion between

boomers and younger

generations there’s somehow this divide

where where we think they you know they

did a terrible job and they’re to blame

for the world ending and climate crisis

consuming all of us

but if we look back into the history of

what they did and what they accomplished

they actually did a really good job at

what they did

and now suddenly ironically we have very

similar values to them but

just because generational cliches are

fun and it’s always fun to tell the

younger generation they’re

stupid i mean everyone has this instinct

to a certain extent

um that that is eroding this so i think

if we look back in history we can see

that they actually did a pretty good job

of bringing things like equality

progress even ecology i’d like to remind

you the 70s hippie revolution that was

them and they were super into ecology

so there’s actually a lot more

synergistic potential here than i think

we believe and on the other hand and i

think this is something that

some of you here might have already felt

is the younger generation was looking

for something to rebel against and it’s

very

hard to rebel against individualist

parents you know they

accept you they think you’re going your

own way is a great thing

i can totally get that i tried i tried

so hard to rebel against my father and

my mother

i played in a heavy metal band for

instance they were like cool go at it

yeah so

you see the the problem kind of is

there’s nothing really individual

to rebel against and i think the

rebellion which was friday’s for future

in this case

one of many there are more to come i

think the the central

movement and the mechanism behind that

was that they were or we were if i may

say so

rebelling against a structure against

institutions that were built but not our

parents

as individuals and it’s always easier to

rebel

against individuals and i think that to

a certain extent is where this conflict

is coming from because

the rebellion is against the structures

and systems that now need an overhaul

but the feeling that the boomer

generation gets is they’re criticizing

us in our entirety

in our existence and that is not the

case and i think this is a this is

something that we need to

communicate properly you know thanks for

all the work you did now let’s

move the system in a way that it doesn’t

collapse

but that it can go forward into the

future so i think these are the two

dynamics that both age groups

if i may should try to get into

another interesting dynamic that

happened during corona was what i’d like

to call the acceleration

of deceleration so when we were all

locked down and stuck within our own

four walls we all suddenly had to slow

down there was just a complete

standstill of

life as we knew it and these

acceleration trends

that you know for instance minimalism or

digital detox all these kind of trends

that try to get out of the

perpetual cycle of consumption that kept

on running all the time

those got amplified we were all forced

into them to a certain extent and i

think this could

have quite a cathartic effect on us for

instance many

of the deceleration movements example

again minimalism

they don’t do it because it’s also fun

and so moral but because you actually

increase life quality

through it if you just slow down a bit

calm down a bit and focus on what’s

actually necessary

for you to be happy and i think this was

an experience that many people

had to have forced upon them to realize

the actual benefits of it and i think

that is something

that will be with us for some time now

because if we now say okay we need to

calm down

consumption a bit maybe slow down or

change the economy a bit

you won’t be able to say oh that’s

impossible we’ve never done that because

we all did it together at one point and

it worked

so i think the acceleration of

deceleration to a certain extent is

going to be part of the success story we

will be more willing

to change our over accelerated maybe

over capitalist if you want to

behaviors because we’ve experienced the

benefits of actually doing that

once in a while so i think that’s

something that could also help us

quite a bit now i’d like to get to the

term

prosperity which is something because

if i’m if i can be honest i’ve been

looking for a new motto for the future

how can we move towards a future that is

not only focused on growth growth growth

growth because i think that

is a paradigm that has led to some of

the communicational difficulties that we

have right now

and prosperity is something we always

hope for and wish for

you know live well and prosper but it

has this effect of

going or turning itself around thriving

growing more and more and more

and i think prosperity is not the

correct word or not the correct

feeling that we should look for when we

move towards the future which

in my opinion the next big crisis ahead

of us is clearly climate change and

prosperity might not be

the right mechanism to go around that

even though we will always keep on

wishing this

onto each other i think and this is a

very nice

similar english word which has a quite a

bit different though

is posterity i don’t know if you’ve

heard of the word posterity it

sounds very similar to prosperity but

it’s not the same

to be in a sense posterious means that

you realize that all or you do something

for the generations after you and i’m

talking way after you yeah i have this

slightly basic simple old greek proverb

in here

a society grows great when old people

plant trees whose shade they know they

shall never sit in

but this is essentially what posterity

is it means

you do something for the next

generations and that has a value

within itself and in order to not or not

get the boomers say to me oh you’re just

doing this from europe the perspective

of your generation

i think this should apply to everyone so

to a certain extent i think

my mission at the moment to get the you

know the communication between

generations working again

is to bring this term into the public to

say

to do something for posterity is

actually

something worth doing so in a certain

sense because this word has not

disappeared it’s just not used very much

anymore

i think it’s my job or i’ll at least

attempt to

make posterity cool again and with that

i say

thank you very much you

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我从事

的是未来的业务,这对很多人来说

听起来

有点奇怪,也可能是因为

如果你

环顾未来学世界,大多数其他未来学家

通常比我大一点,

而且总是保持 关于谈论

技术以及

人工智能将如何拯救

我们所有人等等,

我个人的兴趣越多,

我对

社会,特别是几代人如何

适应和相互交流感兴趣

,正如之前提到的

几代人之间的交流

往往非常非常困难

,这就是为什么我认为新冠

危机是一个如此有趣的时刻,可以

看到这种话语是如何改变的以及发生了什么,

即使只是很短的时间,

因为正如

我现在所说的那样,我认为一些

好处和我们所

拥有的一些经验又慢慢地迷失了,

这就是为什么我有点想

重述

发生的事情为什么它是好的,

然后 关于我们如何保持它

以及它如何

在电晕之后

帮助我们所有人的问题显然是一个非常难以理解

的问题

当危机

如此迫在眉睫时,我们个人很难将

自己置身于

未来

在封锁的那一刻,

每个人在不同的时间

都有一种社会团结的感觉

,我认为

我们已经错过了很长时间

,我认为此时需要

在 Facebook 和其他社交媒体上提及这一点 媒体

平台团体之间的讨论

变得越来越困难,

因为我们确实喜欢在这里打架,

现在在电晕期间有一段时间

,即使是反疫苗接种的人群也

站了一秒钟,

然后只是听 内德并看到正在

发生的事情,我们在某种程度上都在这艘

恐惧的船上,

我认为这是一次非常

有趣的经历,因为当我们

抛开我们的分歧和

我们喜欢争吵的事情时,

突然间很多事情都是可能的

在那之前的叛乱中这似乎是不可能的

,即星期五的未来,我们

要求

你知道,冷静一点,我们可以

把经济调低一点,或者减少消费

一点

,这一切都被认为是完全

不可能的,第二

次危机或 敌人就在门口

是否存在我们可以发现的代际团结

,我们可以坚持

我们可以

在不同社会和

嗯,几代人,而不是每个人,

如果可以的话,总是只寻找自己的年龄组

,我想,如果我们回顾一下这个

美丽的短语,我相信你还记得

它,好吧,婴儿潮一代

通过互联网得到了

我,这是一个标志 当代

际话语不起作用时,

好吧,婴儿潮一代基本上意味着好吧,我们

试图

讨论气候危机和未来的

未来,基本上

我们说年轻一代说好吧,

婴儿潮一代这不起作用

对话我们不在同一

水平,

好吧你做 你的事情我们做我们

的事情,这就是我

希望我们

发现我们可以落后的代际团结,因为正如所说

的一段时间,

我们非常接近,然后整个

好的婴儿潮一代的动态类型正在慢慢

地再次出现 试图让你

知道,

经过几个月的封锁后

,出去重新生活吧 广告,我认为在

这一点

提到婴儿

潮一代与年轻一代有这种分歧

现在也很有趣

在二

战后重建了世界你给

至少西方社会的大多数人带来了个性化和宽容,

这是一件

非常好的事情,但是

通过这两个群体

之间的基本上这种交流

或你所知道的潜在因素

并不总是完全冒泡而发生的事情 过度

冲突

是,如果你问我

是一代人的类型还是

一代人的意思,那么一个新的很有趣,因为婴儿潮一代

也出生了,那些就是

所谓的末日者,

所以很有趣,你知道 z

世代是最年轻的一代,他们是

他们称他们为数码疯子,他们被

称为

变焦者很长一段时间,比如四处变焦,你

知道你总是说他们

注意力不集中 跨度等等,所以你知道

非常不专注等等

,现在因为

年轻一代的情况在一定程度上

看起来如此可怕,特别是如果我们

看看就业市场和经济以及

全球增长前景,

他们已经从 zoomers to

the doomers,这很有趣,你

可以上网找到

doomer 音乐播放列表,例如

,它们只是非常悲伤的吉他音乐

,人们对它喃喃自语,

这绝对太棒了,我只能

推荐它,但你看看如果

世界分为 婴儿潮一代和

末日一代我认为我们

在这整个事情上不会走得太远,我

认为我们需要采取两个主要的努力

来适当地弥合这一差距,

所以我们年轻人需要一件事

我不敢说这

是我称之为历史

同理心的东西,所以

现在在

婴儿潮一代和年轻

一代之间的讨论中,不知何故存在这种分歧

,我们认为他们你知道他们

做得很糟糕 这份工作,他们应该

为世界末日和

消耗我们所有人的气候危机负责,

但如果我们回顾

他们所做的事情和取得的成就的历史,

他们实际上在所做的事情上做得非常好

,现在突然具有讽刺意味的是 我们

与他们有非常相似的价值观,但

只是因为世代相传的陈词滥调很

有趣,告诉

年轻一代他们很

愚蠢总是很有趣我的意思是每个人在某种程度上都有这种

本能,

嗯,这正在侵蚀这一点,所以我想

如果我们回顾一下 在历史上,我们可以

看到他们实际上在

带来平等

进步甚至生态方面

做得很好 比我认为

我们相信的要多,另一方面,我

认为

在座的一些人可能已经

感觉到,年轻一代正在

寻找一些东西来反抗 d

很难反抗个人主义的

父母 你知道他们

接受你 他们认为你走

自己的路是一件很棒的事情

我完全可以理解 我试过了 我

非常努力地反抗我的父亲和

我的母亲

我在 例如,重金属乐队

他们很酷,

是的,所以

你看到问题是

没有什么真正的个人

可以反抗,我认为在这种情况下

,周五的反叛是未来的反叛

之一,还有更多的事情要来 我

认为中央

运动和其背后的机制

是,如果我可以这么说的话,他们或我们曾经是

反抗一个结构,反对

建立的机构,而不是我们的

父母

作为个人,反抗个人总是更容易

,我认为

在某种程度上是这场冲突

的根源,

因为叛乱是针对

现在需要彻底改革的结构和系统,

但婴儿潮一代得到的感觉是

我 s 他们

在我们的存在中全面批评我们,但

事实并非

如此,我认为

这是我们需要

正确沟通的事情你知道感谢

你现在所做的所有工作让我们

以某种方式移动系统 它不会

崩溃,

但它可以进入

未来,所以我认为这是

两个年龄段的两个动力,

如果我可能应该尝试进入

在电晕期间发生的另一个有趣的动力,我

想称之为

减速的加速,所以当我们都被

锁定并被困在自己的

四堵墙内时,我们都突然不得不放慢速度

就像我们所知道的那样,生活完全停滞,这些

加速趋势

,例如极简主义或

数字排毒 所有

这些试图摆脱

不断运行的永久消费循环的趋势,这些趋势

被放大了,我们都

在一定程度上被迫陷入其中,我

认为这

可能 对我们有很大的宣泄作用,

例如,

许多减速运动

又是极简主义的例子,

他们不这样做是因为它也很有趣

,也很道德,但因为

如果你放慢一点,你实际上可以通过它提高生活质量,

冷静一点, 专注于让你快乐的

真正必要

的事情,我认为这是

许多人

不得不强迫他们意识到它

的实际好处的经历,我认为

这将伴随我们一段时间,

因为如果 我们现在说好吧,我们需要

让消费平静下来,

也许放慢脚步或

改变经济,

你不能说哦,那是

不可能的

所以我认为在

一定程度上加速减速

将成为成功故事的一部分,如果你想要行为,我们

将更

愿意改变我们的过度加速,也许是

资本主义,

因为我们已经体验过 确实

偶尔这样做的好处,所以我认为这对

我们也有

很大帮助,现在我想用

繁荣一词来形容,因为

如果我是诚实的,我 一直

在为未来寻找新的座右铭

我们如何才能走向一个

不仅关注增长增长增长

增长的未来,因为我认为这

是一种范式,导致

了我们现在面临的一些沟通困难

和繁荣 是我们一直

希望并希望

你知道的事情,生活得很好,繁荣昌盛,但它

有这样的效果,即

不断发展或扭转自身,

越来越

繁荣,我认为繁荣不是

正确的词,也不

是我们应该的正确感觉 寻找我们何时

迈向未来,

在我看来,我们面前的下一个重大危机

显然是气候变化和

繁荣可能不是解决

这个问题的正确机制,

即使我们将始终保持

希望

我认为这是一个

非常好的

相似的英语单词,它有很大的

不同,虽然

是后裔我不知道你是否

听说过后世这个词,它

听起来与繁荣非常相似,但

它不是

从某种意义上说,后继意味着

您意识到所有或您

为您之后的几代人做某事,而我在

说您之后的方式是的,我在这里

有一条略显简单的古希腊谚语,当老人种植时,社会会变得更好

他们知道他们永远不会坐在树荫下的树,

但这本质上就是

后代,这意味着

你为下一代做一些事情,这

本身就有价值,为了

不让婴儿潮一代对我说,哦,你是 只是

从欧洲做这件事从

你们这一代的角度来看,

我认为这应该适用于每个人,所以

在某种程度上,我认为

我目前的使命是让你们

知道几代人之间的沟通

再次工作

是为了 b 把这个词公之于众,

为子孙后代做某事

实际上

在某种意义上是值得这样做的,

因为这个词并没有

消失,它只是不再使用太多

我认为这是我的工作,或者我至少会

尝试

做 后人再次酷,

我说

非常感谢你