Obesity Hunger 1 global food issue Ellen Gustafson

I’m Ellen and I am totally obsessed with

food but I need to start out obsessed

with food I started out obsessed with

global security policy because I’ve

lived in New York during 9/11 and it was

obviously a very relevant thing and I

got from global security policy to food

because I realized when I’m hungry I’m

really pissed off and I’m assuming that

the rest of the world is - especially if

you’re hungry and your kids are hungry

and your neighbors kids are hungry and

your whole neighborhood is hungry you’re

pretty angry and actually low and behold

it looks pretty much like the areas of

the world that are hungry are also the

areas of the world that are pretty

insecure so I took a job at the United

Nations World Food Program as a way to

try to address these security issues

through food security issues and while I

was there I came across what I think is

the most brilliant of their programs

it’s called school feeding it’s a really

simple idea to sort of get in the middle

of the cycle of poverty and hunger that

continues for a lot of people around the

world and stop it by giving kids a free

school meal it gets them into school

which is obviously education the first

step out of poverty but it also gives

them the micronutrients and the

macronutrients they need to really

develop both mentally and physically

what was working at the UN I met this

girl her name is Lauren Bush and she had

this really awesome idea to sell the bag

called the feed bag which is really

beautifully ironic because you can strap

on the feed bag but if it each bag we’d

sell would provide a year’s worth of

school meals for one kid it’s so simple

and we thought you know okay it cost

between 20 and 50 bucks to provide

school feeding for a year we could sell

these bags and raise a ton of money and

a ton of awareness for the World Food

Program but of course you know at the UN

sometimes things move slowly and they

basically said no and we god this

is such a good idea and it’s gonna raise

so much money so we said screw it we’ll

just start our own company which we did

three years ago so that was kind of my

first dream was to start this company

called feed and and here’s a screenshot

of our website we did this bag and for

Haiti and we launched it just a month

after the earthquake to provide school

meals for kids in Haiti Sophie’s doing

great we’ve so far provided fifty five

million meals to kids around the world

by selling a five hundred fifty thousand

bags ton of bags lotta bags all this

time you’re really when you think about

hunger it’s a hard thing to think about

because what we think about is eating I

think about eating a lot and I really

love it and it’s a little strange about

international hunger and talking about

international issues is that most people

kind of want to know what are you doing

in America what are you doing for

America’s kids

there’s definitely

in America 49 million people in almost

16.7 million children I mean that’s

pretty dramatic for our own country

hunger definitely means something a

little bit different in America than it

does internationally but it’s incredibly

important to address hunger in our own

country but obviously the bigger problem

that we all know about is obesity and

it’s dramatic the other thing that’s

dramatic is that both hunger and obesity

have really risen in the last thirty

years

unfortunately obesity is not only an

American problem it’s actually been

spreading all around the world and

mainly through our kind of food systems

that were exporting the numbers are

pretty crazy there’s a billion people

obese or overweight and a billion people

hungry so those seem like two bifurcated

problems but I kind of started to think

about you know what is obesity and

hunger what are both those things about

well they’re both about food and when

you think about food the underpinning of

food in both cases is potentially

problematic agriculture and you know

agriculture is where food comes from

well agriculture in America is very

interesting it’s very consolidated and

the foods that are produced lead to the

foods that we eat well the foods that

are produced are more or less corn soy

and weed and as you can see that’s

three-quarters of the food that we’re

eating for the most part processed foods

and fast foods unfortunately in our

agricultural system we haven’t done a

good job in the last three decades of

exporting that to those technologies

around the world

so African agriculture which is the

place of most hunger in the world has

actually fallen precipitously as hunger

has risen so somehow we’re not making

the connect between exporting a good

agricultural system that will help feed

people all around the world who is

farming him that’s what I was like

wondering and so I went and stood on a

big grain bin out in the Midwest and

that really didn’t help me understand

farming but I think it’s a really cool

picture and and you know the reality is

that between between farmers in America

who actually quite frankly when I spend

time in the Midwest are pretty large in

general and their farms are also large

but but farmers and the rest of the

world are actually quite skinny and

that’s because they’re starving most

hungry people in the world are

subsistence farmers and most of those

people are women which is a totally

other topic that I won’t get on right

now but I’d love to do the feminist

thing at some point I think it’s really

interesting to look at agriculture from

these two sides there’s this large

consolidated farming that’s led to what

we eat in America and its really been

since around 1980 after the oil crisis

when you know mass consolidation mass

exodus of small farmers in this country

and then in the same time period you

know we’ve kind of left Africa’s farmers

to do their own thing

unfortunately what is farm ends up as

what we eat in America a lot of what we

eat has led to obesity and has led to a

real change in sort of what our diet is

in the last 30 years it’s crazy

1/5 of kids under to drink soda hello

you don’t put soda in bottles but people

do because it’s so cheap and so our

whole food system in the last 30 years

has really shifted I mean I think you

know it’s not just in our own country

but really we’re exporting this system

around the world and when you look at

the data of least developed countries

especially in cities which are growing

really rapidly people are eating

American processed foods and in one

generation they’re going from hunger and

all of the detrimental health effects of

hunger to obesity and things like

diabetes and heart disease in one

generation

so the problematic food system is

affecting both hunger and obesity not to

beat a dead horse but this is a global

food system where there’s a billion

people hungry and a billion people obese

I think that’s the only way to look at

it and instead of taking these two

things as bifurcated problems that are

very separate it’s really important to

look at them as one system we get a lot

of our food from all around the world

and people from all around the world are

importing our food system so it’s

incredibly relevant to start a new way

of looking at it the thing is I’ve

learned in in the technology people that

are here which I’m totally not one of

them but apparently it really takes 30

years for a lot of technologies to

become really endemic to to us like the

mouse and and and the internet and

Windows you know there’s 30 year cycles

I think 2010 can be a really interesting

year because it is the end of a 30-year

cycle and it’s the birthday of the

global food system so that’s the first

birthday I want to talk about you know I

think if we really think that this is

something that’s happened in the last 30

years there’s hope in that it’s the 30th

anniversary of GMO crops of the big gulp

Chicken McNuggets high fructose corn

syrup the farm crisis in America and the

change in how we’ve addressed

agriculture internationally so there’s a

lot of reasons to take this 30 year time

period as as sort of the creation of

this new food system I’m not the only

one who’s obsessed with this whole

thirty year thing the icons like Michael

Pollan and Jamie Oliver in his TED Prize

wish both addressed this like last three

decades time period is incredibly rare

for food system change well I really

care about 1980 because it’s also the

30th anniversary of me this year and so

in my lifetime a lot of what’s happened

in the world and being a person obsessed

with food a lot of this has really

changed so my second dream is that I

think we can look to the next 30 years

as a time to change the food system

again and we know what’s happened in the

past so if we start now and we look at

technologies and improvements to the

food system long term we might be able

to recreate the food system so when I

give my next talk and I’m 60 years old

I’ll be able to say that’s been a

success so I’m announcing today the

start of a new organization our new fund

within the feed foundation called the 30

project and the 30 project is really

focused on these long-term ideas for

food system change and I think by

aligning international advocates that

are addressing hunger and domestic

advocates that are addressing obesity we

might actually look for long-term

solutions that will make the food system

better for everyone we all tend to think

that these systems are quite different

and people argue whether or not organic

can feed the world but if we take a

30-year view there’s more hope in

collaborative ideas so I’m hoping that

by connecting really disparate

organizations like the one campaign and

slow food which don’t seem right now to

have much in common we can talk about

holistic long-term systemic solutions

that will improve food for everyone some

ideas I’ve had is like look the reality

is kids in the South Bronx need apples

and carrots and so do kids in Botswana

and how are we gonna get those kids

those nutritious foods

another thing that’s become incredibly

global is production of meat and fish

understanding how to produce protein in

a way that’s healthy for the environment

and healthy for people will be

incredibly important to address things

like climate change and and you know how

we use petrochemical fertilizers and you

know these are really relevant topics

that are long-term and important for

both people in in in Africa who are

small farmers and people in America who

are farmers and eaters and I also think

that thinking about processed foods in a

new way where we actually price the

negative externalities like

petrochemicals and like fertilizer

runoff into the price of a bag of chips

well if that bag of chips then becomes

sort of inherently more expensive than

an apple then maybe it’s time for a

different sense of personal

responsibility and food choice because

the choices are actually choices instead

of three-quarters of the products being

made

from corn soy and wheat the 30 project

org is launched and I’ve gathered a

coalition of a few organizations to

start and it’ll be growing over the next

few months but I really hope that you

will all think of ways that you can look

long-term at things like the food system

and make change

you

我是艾伦,我完全沉迷于

食物,但我需要从沉迷

于食物开始我开始沉迷于

全球安全政策,因为我

在 9/11 期间住在纽约,这

显然是一件非常相关的事情,我

从全球安全政策转向食品,

因为我意识到当我饿的时候我

真的很生气,我

假设世界其他地方也一样——尤其是如果

你饿了,你的孩子饿了,

而你邻居的孩子也饿了 饿了,

的整个社区都饿了

世界粮食计划署作为

尝试通过粮食安全问题解决这些安全问题的一种方式

,当我

在那里时,我遇到了我

认为他们最出色的计划,

它被称为学校供餐,这是一个非常

简单的想法 中

摆脱贫困和饥饿的循环,

世界各地的许多人都在继续,并通过为孩子们提供免费的

校餐来阻止它,这让他们进入学校

,这显然是教育

摆脱贫困的第一步,但它也为

他们提供了微量营养素 以及

他们真正

发展身心

所需的大量营养素 在联合国工作 我遇到了这个

女孩,她的名字叫劳伦布什,她

有一个非常棒的想法来卖掉一个

叫做饲料袋的袋子,这真的很

讽刺,因为你可以 系

在饲料袋上,但如果我们

出售的每个袋子都能

为一个孩子提供一年的学校膳食,那就太简单了

,我们认为你知道,

提供一年的学校膳食需要 20 到 50 美元,

我们可以 卖掉

这些袋子,

为世界粮食计划署筹集大量资金和大量意识,

但你当然知道在联合国

有时事情进展缓慢,他们

基本上说不,我们操上帝,这

就是这样 一个好主意,它会筹集

这么多钱,所以我们说,去他妈的,我们

将创办自己的公司,这是我们

三年前做的,所以我的

第一个梦想是创办一家

名为 feed 的公司,这是一个

截图 我们的网站我们为海地制作了这个包

,我们在地震后仅一个月就推出了它,为

海地的孩子们提供学校膳食 索菲做得

很好,到目前为止,我们已经通过出售五百只包

为世界各地的孩子提供了五千五百万份餐食

五万

袋 吨袋 这么多袋 一直

以来,你真的是 当你想到

饥饿时,这是一件很难想到的事情,

因为我们想到的是吃,我

想到吃很多,我真的很

喜欢它,这有点奇怪 关于

国际饥饿和谈论

国际问题是大多数

人都想知道你

在美国做什么你在为

美国的孩子

做什么

在美国肯定有 4900 万人在近

16.7 英里 十多个孩子 我的意思是这

对我们自己的国家来说是非常戏剧性的

饥饿

美国和国际上的

意义肯定有些不同,但是解决我们自己国家的饥饿问题非常重要,

显然我们都知道的更大的问题是肥胖,

它是 戏剧性的另一件戏剧性的事情

是,饥饿和肥胖症

在过去 30 年中确实有所增加,

不幸的是,肥胖症不仅是

美国的问题,它实际上已经

蔓延到世界各地,

主要是通过我们

出口这些数字的食品系统。

非常疯狂,有 10 亿人

肥胖或超重,10 亿人

饥饿,所以这些似乎是两个分叉的

问题,但我开始

思考你知道什么是肥胖和

饥饿,这两者是什么,

它们都是关于食物和 当

您考虑

食物时,两种情况下食物的基础都可能是

有问题的农业 你知道

农业是食物的来源

美国的农业非常

有趣,它非常整合,

生产的

食物导致我们吃得好的

食物生产的食物或多或少是玉米大豆

和杂草,就像你 可以看到,这

是我们所吃食物的四分之三,

大部分是加工

食品和快餐,不幸的是,在我们的

农业系统

中,在过去的三年中

,我们在向世界各地的这些技术出口这些技术方面做得并不好

所以

作为世界上最饥饿的地方的非洲农业

实际上随着饥饿的增加而急剧下降

所以不知何故,我们没有

在出口一个好的农业系统之间建立联系,

这将有助于养活

世界各地正在

种植他的人 我想

知道什么,所以我

站在中西部的一个大粮仓上,

这真的没有帮助我了解

农业,但我认为这真的是一个共同点 ol

图片,你知道现实情况是

坦率地说,当我在中西部度过的时候,美国农民之间实际上相当

大,他们的农场也很大

,但农民和世界其他地方

实际上都很瘦

那是因为他们在挨饿

世界上大多数饥饿的人都是

自给自足的农民,其中大多数

人是女性,这是一个完全

不同的话题,我现在不会讨论,

但我愿意在某些地方做女权主义的

事情 点我认为

从这两个方面看农业真的很有趣

有这种大规模的

联合农业导致了

我们在美国吃的东西,实际上是

在石油危机之后的 1980 年左右,

当时你知道大规模合并

小农的大规模外流 国家

然后在同一时期你

知道我们有点让非洲的

农民去做他们自己的事情

不幸的是什么是农场最终

我们在美国吃什么很多什么 我们

吃的东西导致了肥胖,并导致了过去 30 年

我们的饮食方式发生了真正的变化

1/5 以下的孩子喝苏打水太疯狂了 你好,

你不要把苏打水放在瓶子里,但人们

会这样做,因为它是 如此便宜,所以

过去 30 年

我们的整个食品系统确实

发生了变化 国家,

特别是在发展

非常迅速的城市,人们正在吃

美国加工食品,在

一代人的时间里,他们从饥饿和

饥饿到肥胖的所有有害健康影响以及

糖尿病和心脏病等疾病,在一代

人的时间里摆脱了有问题的食物 系统正在

影响饥饿和肥胖,不要

打死马,但这是一个全球

粮食系统,有十亿

人饥饿和十亿人肥胖,

我认为这是看待它的唯一方法

d 将这两个

问题视为非常独立的分叉问题,

将它们视为一个系统

非常重要 与开始一种新

的看待它的方式有关,事情是我

在技术人员那里学到

的,我完全不是

他们中的一员,但显然很多技术真的需要 30

才能真正流行起来 对我们来说就像

鼠标和互联网和

Windows 你知道有 30 年的周期

我认为 2010 年可能是非常有趣的

一年,因为它是一个 30 年周期的结束,它是

全球食品系统的生日所以那就是 第一个

生日我想谈谈你知道我

想如果我们

真的认为这是过去 30 年发生的事情,

那么希望这

是大口麦乐鸡高的转基因作物 30 周年

果糖玉米

糖浆 美国的农场危机

以及我们在国际上解决农业问题的方式的变化,

因此有

很多理由将这 30 年的

时间视为创建

这种新食品系统的

一种方式,我不是唯一一个 谁痴迷于这整整

三十年的事情,像迈克尔·

波伦和杰米·奥利弗这样的偶像在他的 TED 奖中

都希望像过去三年一样解决这个问题,这

对于食品系统的变化来说非常罕见,我真的很

关心 1980 年,因为这也是

30 周年 我今年,所以

在我的一生中,世界上发生了很多事情

,作为一个痴迷

于食物的人,很多事情都

发生了变化,所以我的第二个梦想是,我

认为我们可以展望未来 30

年 再次改变食物系统

,我们知道过去发生了什么,

所以如果我们现在开始,我们从长远来看食物系统的

技术和改进,

我们可能

能够重建食物系统,所以当我

进行下一次演讲,我已经 60 岁了,

我可以说这是

成功的,所以我今天宣布

成立一个新组织,我们

在饲料基金会内的新基金称为 30

项目,而 30 项目是 真正

关注

粮食系统变革的这些长期想法,我认为通过

协调

解决饥饿问题的国际倡导者和

解决肥胖问题的国内倡导者,我们

实际上可能会寻找长期

解决方案,让我们所有人的食物系统

变得更好 倾向于

认为这些系统是完全不同的

,人们争论有机是否

可以养活世界,但如果我们从

30 年的角度来看,协作想法更有希望,

所以我希望

通过连接真正不同的

组织,比如一个活动 和

慢食,现在似乎

没有太多

共同点 现实情况

是,南布朗克斯的孩子需要苹果

和胡萝卜,博茨瓦纳的孩子

也需要,我们如何让这些孩子获得

那些营养丰富的食物

另一个变得令人难以置信的

全球化的事情是肉类和鱼类的生产

了解如何以

一种方式生产蛋白质 对环境

和人类的健康对于

解决气候变化等问题非常重要,而且您知道

我们如何使用石化肥料,您

知道这些确实是相关的话题

对非洲的两个人来说都是长期和重要的 是

小农和美国

的农民和食客,我也

认为以一种

新的方式思考加工食品,我们实际上将

石化产品和化肥

径流等负面外部性定价为一袋薯片的价格

芯片然后变得

比苹果更贵

然后也许是时候换一种

不同的个人感觉了

责任和食物选择,

因为选择实际上是选择,而

不是四分之三的产品

由玉米大豆

和小麦制成 在接下来的

几个月里,但我真的

希望你们都能想出一些方法来

长期关注食品系统等问题

并做出改变