Hire the hackers Misha Glenny

now this is a very unlike thing to do

but let’s kick off the afternoon with a

message from a mystery sponsor dear fox

news it has come to our unfortunate

attention that both the name and nature

of anonymous has been ravished anonymous

ladies and gentlemen a sophisticated

group of politically motivated hackers

who have emerged in 2011 and they’re

pretty scary you never know when they’re

going to attack next who or what the

consequences will be but interestingly

they have a sense of humor these guys

hacked into Fox News’s Twitter account

to announce President Obama’s

assassination now you can imagine the

panic that would have generated in the

news room at Fox what do we do now put

on a black armband or crack open the

champagne and of course

who could who could escape the irony of

a member of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp

being a victim of hacking for a change

sometimes sometimes you know you turn on

the news and you say is there anyone

left to hack Sony PlayStation Network

done the government of Turkey tick

Britain’s Serious Organised Crime Agency

a breeze the CIA falling off a log in

fact a friend of mine from the security

industry told me the other day that

there are two types of companies in the

world those that know they’ve been

hacked and those that don’t I mean three

companies providing cybersecurity

services to the FBI have been hacked

I mean it is nothing sacred anymore for

heaven’s sake anyway

this mysterious group Anonymous and they

would say this themselves they are

providing a service by demonstrating how

useless companies are at protecting our

data but there is also a very serious

aspect to anonymous they are

ideologically driven they claim that

they are battling a dastardly conspiracy

they say that governments are trying to

take over the Internet and control it

and that they anonymous are the

authentic voice of resistance be it

against middle-eastern dictatorships

against global media corporations or

against intelligence agencies or whoever

it is and their politics are not

entirely unattractive okay they’re a

little inchoate and there’s a there’s a

strong whiff of sort of half-baked

anarchism about them but one thing is

true we are at the beginning of a mighty

struggle for control of the internet the

web links everything and very soon it

will mediate most human activity because

the Internet has fashioned a new and

complicated environment for an old age

dilemma that pits the demands of

purity with the desire for freedom now

this is a very complicated struggle and

unfortunately for mortals like you and

me we probably can’t understand it very

well nonetheless in an unexpected attack

of hubris a couple of years ago I

decided I would try and do that and I

sought I sort of get it

these were the various things that I was

looking at as I was trying to understand

it but in order to try and explain the

whole thing I would need another 18

minutes or so to do it so you’re just

gonna have to take it on trust for me on

this occasion and let me assure you that

all of these issues are involved in

cyber security and control of the

Internet one way or the other but in a

configuration that even Stephen Hawkins

would probably have difficulty trying to

get trying to get his head around so

there you are and as you see in the

middle there is our old friend the

hacker the hacker is absolutely central

to many of the political social and

economic issues affecting the net and so

I thought to myself well these are the

guys who I want to talk to and what do

you know nobody else does talk to the

hackers they’re completely anonymous as

it were so despite the fact that we are

beginning to pour billions hundreds of

billions of dollars into cybersecurity

for the most extraordinary technical

solutions no one wants to talk to these

guys the hackers who are doing

everything instead we prefer these

really dazzling technological solutions

which cost a huge amount of money

so nothing is going into into the

hackers well I say nothing but actually

there is one teeny-weeny little research

unit in turin italy called the hackers

profiling project and they are doing

some fantastic research into the

to ristic sin to the abilities and the

socialization of hackers but because

there are UN operation maybe that’s why

governments and corporations and that

interested in them and because it’s a UN

operation of course

it lacks funding but I think they’re

doing very important work because where

we have a surfeit of technology in the

cybersecurity industry we have a

definite lack of call me old-fashioned

human intelligence now so far I’ve

mentioned the hackers anonymous who are

a politically motivated hacking group of

course the criminal justice system

treats them as common or garden

criminals but interestingly anonymous

does not make use of its hacked

information for financial gain but what

about the real cyber criminals well real

organized crime on the internet goes

back about ten years when a group of

gifted Ukrainian hackers developed a

website which led to the

industrialization of cybercrime welcome

to the now forgotten realm of karma

planet this is how they were advertising

themselves a decade ago on the net now

kada planet was very interesting cyber

criminals would go there to buy and sell

stolen credit card details to exchange

information about new malware that was

was out there and remember this is a

time when we’re seeing for the first

time so-called off-the-shelf malware

this is sort of ready for use out of the

box stuff which you can deploy even if

you’re not a terribly sophisticated

hacker and so kartaa planet became a

sort of super market for cyber criminals

and its creators were incredibly smart

and entrepreneurial because they were

faced with one enormous challenges

cyber criminals and that challenge is

how do you do business how do you trust

somebody on the web who you want to do

business with when you know that they

are

I mean it’s axiomatic that they’re dodgy

and they’re going to want to try and rip

you off so the family as the inner core

of Carter planet was known came up with

this brilliant idea called the escrow

system they appointed an officer who

would mediate between the vendor and the

purchase of the vendor say of stolen

credit card details but Chester wanted

to get hold of them the purchaser would

send the administrative officer some

dollars digitally and the vendor would

sell the stolen credit card details and

the officer would then verify if the

credit card the stolen credit cards

worked and if they did he then passed on

the money to the vendor and the stolen

credit card details to the purchaser and

it was this which completely

revolutionized cybercrime on the web and

after that it just went wild we had a

champagne decade for people we known we

know as Carter’s now I spoke to one of

these Carter’s who will call red brigade

although that was not even his proper

nickname but I promised I wouldn’t

reveal who he was and he explained to me

how in 2003 and 2004 he would go on

sprees in New York

taking out $10,000 from an ATM here

30,000 from an ATM there using cloned

credit cards he was making on average a

week 150,000 dollars tax-free of course

and he said that he had so much money

stashed in his upper US East Side

apartment at one point that he just

didn’t know what to do with it and

actually fell into a depression but

that’s a slightly different story which

I won’t go into now now the interesting

thing about repre Gaede is is that he

wasn’t an advanced hacker he sort of

understood the technology and he

realized that security was very

important if you were going to be a cada

but he didn’t spend his days and nights

bent over a computer eating pizza

drinking coke and that sort of thing he

was out there on the town having a fab

time in enjoying the high life and this

is because hackers are only one element

in a cyber criminal enterprise and often

they’re the most vulnerable element of

all and I want to explain this to you by

introducing you to six characters who I

met while I was doing this research

dmitri golubov AKA script born in odessa

ukraine in 1982 now he developed his

social and moral compass and the Black

Sea port during the 1990s this was a

sink or swim environment where

involvement in criminal or corrupt

activities was entirely necessary if you

wanted to survive as an accomplished

computer user what Dmitri did was to

transfer the gangster capitalism of his

hometown on to the World Wide Web and he

did a great job in it you have to

understand over that from his ninth

birthday the only environment that he

knew was gangsterism he knew no other

way of making a living and making money

then we have Renault can’t subramanian

aka jillsy founder of dark market born

in colombo sri lanka as an 8 year old he

and his parents fled the sri lankan

capital because single e’s mobs were

roaming the city looking for Tamils like

Renu to murder at 11 he was interrogated

by the Sri Lankan military accused of

being a terrorist and his parents sent

him on his own to Britain as a refugee

seeking political asylum at 13 with only

little English and being bullied at

school he escaped into a world of

computers where he showed great

technical ability but he was soon being

seduced by people on the internet he was

convicted of mortgage and credit card

fraud and he will be released from

Wormwood Scrubs jail in London in 2012

from matrix zero zero 1 matrix null null

ants who was an administrator of dark

market born in southern Germany to a

state

and well-respected middle-class family

his obsession with gaming as a teenager

led him to hacking and he was soon

controlling huge servers around the

world where he stored his games that he

had cracked and pirated his slider into

criminality was incremental and when he

finally woke up to his situation and

understood the implications

he was already in too deep Mac’s vision

aka iseman mastermind of Cardoz market

born in Meridian Idaho Mack’s vision was

one of the best penetration testers

working out of Santa Clara California in

the late 90s for private companies and

voluntarily for the FBI now in the late

1990s he discovered a vulnerability on

all US government networks and he went

in and patched it up because this

included nuclear research facilities

sparing the American government a huge

security embarrassment but also because

he was an inveterate hacker he left a

tiny digital hot wormhole through which

he alone could crawl but this was

spotted by an eagle-eye investigator and

he was convicted at his open prison he

came under the influence of financial

fraud stirs and those financial

fraudsters persuaded him to work for

them on his release and this man with a

planetary size brain is now serving a

13-year sentence in California Adewale

tiwa aka Freddy BB master bank account

cracker from Abuja in Nigeria he set up

his prosaically entitled news group of

Bank frauds at Yahoo Co UK

before arriving in Britain in 2005 to

take a masters in chemical engineering

at Manchester University he impressed in

the private sector developing chemical

applications for the oil industry while

simultaneously running a worldwide bank

and credit card fraud operation that was

worth millions until his arrest in 2008

and then finally chart eye area pan aka

Chow one of the most remarkable hackers

ever from Ankara in Turkey he combines

the tremendous skills of a geek with the

suave social engineering skills of the

master criminal one of the smartest

people I’ve ever met he also had the

most effective virtual private network

security arrangement that police have

ever encountered amongst global cyber

criminals now the important thing about

all of these people is they share

certain characteristics despite the fact

that they come from very different

environments they are all people who

learnt their hacking skills in their

early to mid teens they are all people

who demonstrate advanced ability in

maths and the sciences remember when

they develop those hacking skills their

moral compass had not yet developed and

most of them with the exception of

script and chaough well they did not

demonstrate any real social skills in

the outside world only on the web and

the other thing is is the high incidence

of hackers like these who have

characteristics which are consistent

with Asperger’s syndrome

now I discussed this with Professor

Simon baron-cohen who’s the professor of

developmental psychopathology at

Cambridge and he has done path-breaking

work on autism and confirmed also for

the authorities here that gary mckinnon

who was who is wanted by the United

States for hacking into the to the

Pentagon suffers from acts per

Asperger’s and the secondary condition

of depression and Baron Cohen explained

that

certain disabilities can manifest

themselves in the hacking and computing

world as tremendous skills and that we

should not be throwing in jail

people who have such disabilities and

skills because they have lost their way

socially or been duped now I think we’re

missing a trick here because I don’t

think people like max vision should be

in jail and let me be blunt about this

in China in Russia and in loads of other

countries that are developing cyber

offensive capabilities this is exactly

what they are doing they are recruiting

hackers both before and after they

become involved in criminal and

industrial espionage activities and

mobilizing them on behalf of the state

we need to engage and find ways of

offering guidance to these young people

because they are a remarkable breed and

if we rely as we do at the moment solely

on the criminal justice system and the

threat of punitive sentences we will be

nurturing a monster we cannot tame thank

you very much for listening

so so your idea we’re spreading is hire

hackers how how would someone get over

that the kind of fear that the hacker

they hire might preserve that at all

teensy wormhole I think to an extent you

have to understand that it’s axiomatic

among hackers that they do that they are

you know they’re just relentless and

obsessive about what they do but all of

the people who I have spoken to who

fallen foul of the law they have all

said please please give us a chance to

work in the legitimate industry we just

never knew how to get there what we were

doing we want to work with you okay well

that makes sense

thanks a lot me sir

现在这是一件非常不同的事情,

但是让我们

从一个神秘赞助商的消息开始下午吧亲爱的福克斯

新闻,不幸的是,我们

注意到匿名的名称和性质

都被迷住了匿名

女士们先生们一个成熟的

团体 2011 年出现的出于政治动机的黑客

,他们

非常可怕,你永远不知道他们

什么时候会下一次攻击谁或

后果会是什么,但有趣的是,

他们有幽默感,这些人

侵入了 Fox News 的 Twitter

账户 现在宣布奥巴马总统被

暗杀,你可以想象

福克斯新闻编辑室会产生的恐慌我们现在做什么

戴上黑色臂章或打开

香槟,当然

谁能逃脱

鲁珀特成员的讽刺 默多克的新闻集团

成为黑客攻击的受害者

有时有时你知道你打开

了新闻然后你说

还有人攻击索尼 PlayStation 网络

完成土耳其政府勾选

英国严重有组织犯罪

局轻而易举中央情报局从日志中掉下来

事实上我的一位来自安全行业的朋友前

几天告诉我世界上

有两种类型的公司

知道他们 已经被

黑了,那些不是我的意思是

向 FBI 提供网络安全服务的三家公司被黑了

我的意思是,看在

上帝的份上

,这不再是神圣

的了

公司在保护我们的

数据方面是多么无用,但匿名也有一个非常严重的

方面 他们受

意识形态驱动 他们声称

他们正在与一个卑鄙的阴谋作斗争

他们说政府正试图

接管并控制它

并且他们匿名是

真正的抵抗声音,无论是

反对中东独裁,还是

反对全球媒体

公司 st 情报机构或任何

人,他们的政治并非

完全没有吸引力,好吧,他们

有点不成熟,而且有

一种强烈的半生不熟的无政府主义气息,

但有一件事是

真实的,我们正处于强大的开端

为控制互联网而斗争

网络连接一切,很快

它将调解大多数人类活动,

因为互联网已经为老年困境创造了一个新的

复杂环境,

使纯洁的需求

与对自由的渴望相冲突,现在

这是一个非常 复杂的斗争,

不幸的是,对于像你和

我这样的凡人来说,我们可能无法很好地理解它,

但在

几年前的一次意外的傲慢攻击中,我

决定我会尝试这样做,我

试图让我明白

这些是 我试图理解它时正在查看的各种事物,

但为了尝试解释

整个事情,我需要再花 18

分钟左右的时间来完成它,所以你是 j

这种情况下,我们必须相信我,让我向你保证,

所有这些问题都涉及

网络安全和

互联网控制,但这种

配置即使是斯蒂芬霍金斯

也可能会遇到困难

试图让他的头脑转过来,

所以你在那里,正如你在中间看到的那样,

有我们的老朋友

黑客黑客绝对是

影响网络的许多政治社会和经济问题的核心,所以

我心想 好吧,这些是

我想与之

交谈的人,你知道没有其他人会与黑客交谈,

尽管我们

开始为网络安全投入数十亿数

千亿美元,但他们完全是匿名的

。 最非凡的技术

解决方案没有人愿意与这些

家伙交谈 黑客正在做

所有事情,我们更喜欢这些

真正令人眼花缭乱的技术解决方案

,需要一个拥抱 这么多钱,

所以没有什么东西进入

黑客我什么也没说,但实际上

在意大利都灵有一个很小的研究单位,叫做黑客

分析项目,他们正在

对能力的犯罪进行一些奇妙的研究 和

黑客的社会化,但因为

有联合国行动,也许这就是

政府和公司

对他们感兴趣的原因,因为这是联合国

行动,当然

它缺乏资金,但我认为他们正在

做非常重要的工作,因为

我们有过剩的

网络安全行业的技术我们现在

绝对缺乏称我为老式的

人类智能到目前为止我已经

提到了黑客匿名他们是

一个出于政治动机的黑客组织

当然刑事司法系统

将他们视为普通或花园

罪犯但有趣的是 匿名

不会利用其被黑客入侵的

信息来获取经济利益,但

真正的网络罪犯呢?

互联网上真正的有组织犯罪可以

追溯到大约十年前,当时一群

才华横溢的乌克兰黑客开发了一个

网站,该网站导致

了网络犯罪的工业化 欢迎

来到现在被遗忘的业力

星球领域 这就是他们

十年前在网络上宣传自己的方式 现在

卡达星球非常有趣,网络

犯罪分子会去那里买卖

被盗的信用卡详细信息,以交换

有关新恶意软件的信息,

并记住这是

我们第一次看到

所谓的关闭- 现成的恶意软件

这是一种开箱即

用的东西,即使

你不是一个非常老练的

黑客,你也可以部署它,因此 kartaa 星球

成为网络犯罪分子的超级市场

,它的创造者非常聪明,

而且 创业,因为他们

面临着网络犯罪分子的一个巨大挑战,

而这个挑战是

你如何做生意 你如何信任

网络上的人

当你知道他们

你想和他们做生意

时 绝妙的主意称为托管

系统,他们任命了一名官员,该官员

将在卖方和买方之间进行调解

卖方说

信用卡详细信息被盗,但切斯特

想掌握这些信息,买方将以

数字方式向行政官员发送一些美元,卖方将

出售被盗的信用卡详细信息,

然后该官员将验证

信用卡

是否有效

网络上的网络犯罪,

之后它就变得疯狂了,我们

为那些我们认识的人庆祝了十年

ll red brigade

虽然这甚至不是他的正确

绰号,但我保证我不会

透露他是谁,他向我

解释了 2003 年和 2004 年他将如何

在纽约疯狂

地从 ATM 取款 10,000 美元,其中

30,000 美元从 那里的 ATM 使用克隆的

信用卡,他平均

每周可以免税 150,000 美元,当然

,他说他曾经

在美国东区上层的

公寓里藏了这么多钱,以至于他

不知道该怎么办 有了它,

实际上陷入了萧条,但这

是一个稍微不同的故事,

我现在不会再

讨论 repre Gaede 的有趣之处在于

他不是一个高级黑客,他有点

了解这项技术,他

意识到安全性

如果你要成为一名卡达人,这非常重要,

但他没有日日夜夜

在电脑前弯腰吃披萨

喝可乐,他

在城里度过了一段美妙的

时光,享受高尚的生活 这

是 因为黑客只是

网络犯罪企业中的一个元素,而且通常

他们是最脆弱的

元素,我想通过

向你介绍

我在做这项研究时遇到的六个角色来向你解释这一点

dmitri golubov AKA script Born

1982 年在乌克兰敖德萨,现在他开发了他的

社会和道德指南针,而

1990 年代的黑海港口是一个

沉没或游泳的环境,

如果你

想作为一个有成就的计算机用户生存下去,

那么参与犯罪或腐败活动是完全必要的 所做的是将

他家乡的黑帮资本主义转移

到万维网上,他

在这方面做得很好,你必须

明白,从他九岁

生日开始,他唯一

知道的环境就是黑帮,他不知道其他

方法可以制作 生活和赚钱

然后我们有雷诺不能 subramanian

又名 jillsy 黑暗市场的创始人出生

在斯里兰卡科伦坡 8 岁时他

和他的父母逃离 d 斯里兰卡

首都,因为单身 e 的暴徒

在城市中游荡,寻找像

Renu 这样的泰米尔人在 11 岁时谋杀他

被斯里兰卡军方审讯,被

指控为恐怖分子,他的父母将

他作为难民独自送往英国

寻求政治 13 岁入院,只会

一点英语,在学校被欺负

他逃进了一个电脑世界,

在那里他表现出了出色的

技术能力,但他很快就被

互联网上的人引诱他

被判犯有抵押贷款和信用卡

欺诈罪,他将被释放

2012 年来自伦敦 Wormwood Scrubs 监狱

从矩阵零零 1 矩阵 null null

蚂蚁,他是黑市的管理员,

出生在德国南部一个

和受人尊敬的中产阶级家庭,

他十几岁时对游戏的痴迷

导致他成为黑客 他很快就

控制着

世界

各地的大型服务器 然后,他

终于醒悟了自己的处境,并

理解了

他已经深陷其中的含义 Mac 的愿景,

也就是出生于 Meridian Idaho 的 Cardoz 市场的 iseman 策划者

Mack 的愿景是

90 年代后期在加利福尼亚州圣克拉拉工作的最好的渗透测试人员之一

在 1990 年代后期,他自愿为 FBI 工作,

他在所有美国政府网络上发现了一个漏洞

,他

进入并修补了它,因为这

包括核研究设施,

使美国政府免于巨大的

安全尴尬,但也因为

他是一个根深蒂固的人 黑客他留下了一个

微小的数字热虫洞,

他一个人可以爬过,但这

被一名鹰眼调查员发现,

他在他的开放式监狱中被定罪他

受到金融欺诈的影响

,那些金融

欺诈者说服他工作

他们在获释后,这个拥有

行星大小大脑的人现在正在加州

服刑 13 年 lifornia Adewale

tiwa 又名 Freddy BB

来自尼日利亚阿布贾的银行账户破解大师 他在 Yahoo Co UK 成立了

他的银行欺诈新闻组,

然后于 2005 年抵达英国,

在曼彻斯特大学攻读化学工程硕士学位,他在私人领域留下了深刻的印象

该部门

为石油行业开发化学应用程序,

同时运营着价值数百万美元的全球银行

和信用卡欺诈行动,

直到他在 2008 年被捕

,然后最终绘制了眼睛区域 pan aka

Chow,

他结合了土耳其安卡拉有史以来最杰出的黑客之一

极客的巨大技能与犯罪大师的

温文尔雅的社会工程技能

我见过的最聪明的人之一他还拥有警察在全球网络犯罪分子中遇到过的

最有效的虚拟专用网络

安全装置

现在重要的是 关于

所有这些人,尽管他们具有

某些共同特征 事实上

,他们来自非常不同的

环境 他们都是

十几岁到中期就学会了黑客技能的人 他们都是

在数学和科学方面表现出先进能力的人

记得当

他们发展出他们的道德指南针尚未掌握的黑客技能时

开发和

他们中的大多数,除了

脚本和 chaough well 他们没有

在外界展示任何真正的社交技能,

只在网络上

,另一件事是

像这样的黑客的高发率,这些黑客具有

与阿斯伯格一致的特征

现在我与剑桥发展精神病理学教授

西蒙·巴伦-科恩教授讨论了这个问题

,他在自闭症方面做了开创性的

工作,并为

这里的当局证实

了美国通缉

的加里·麦金农黑客攻击 进入

五角大楼患有

阿斯伯格综合症和继发

性抑郁症 和 Baron Cohen 解释

说,

某些残疾可以

在黑客和计算

世界中表现为巨大的技能,我们

不应该把

有这种残疾和

技能的人投入监狱,因为他们现在在社交上迷失了方向

或被欺骗了,我认为我们

我在这里错过了一个技巧,因为我

认为像 max vision 这样的人不应该被

关进监狱,让我直言不讳地说,

在中国、俄罗斯和许多其他

正在发展网络

攻击能力的国家,这

正是他们正在做的事情。

在他们

参与犯罪和

工业间谍活动之前和之后招募黑客,并

代表国家动员他们,

我们需要参与并找到

为这些年轻人提供指导的方法,

因为他们是一个了不起的品种,

如果我们依赖我们 目前

只考虑刑事司法系统和

惩罚性判决的威胁,我们将

培育一个我们无法驯服的怪物 我

非常感谢你的聆听

,所以你的想法是我们正在传播的是雇佣

黑客,有人如何克服

他们雇佣的黑客可能会保留这个

很小的虫洞的那种恐惧,我认为在某种程度上你

必须理解

在黑客中,他们所做的事情是不言而喻的,他们是

你知道他们只是

对他们所做的事情无情和痴迷,但

我与之交谈

过的所有触犯法律的人

都说,请给我们一个机会

在合法行业工作我们只是

不知道如何到达那里我们在

做什么我们想和你一起工作很好很好

这很有意义

非常感谢我先生