Disrupting healthcare without hurting it

[Music]

so this is my story

i’m a pediatric doctor that got tired of

seeing patients in hospital

because for majority of them it was

mostly too late

and largely preventable but how could i

blame them

when we know we’ve designed a system

that doesn’t work for most people

kind of like alice trying to fit through

that one door to get into wonderland

and let’s not sugarcoat it healthcare is

broken

and nowhere is this more obvious than in

mental health we all have stories of how

ourselves or the people that we care

about has been affected by mental health

or more tragically lost to suicide

you see mental health is common one in

two of you will face at some time

and of those who first have symptoms to

when you finally seek help

the lag time is eight years

and yet only 20 percent of those who

seek help felt that they got the help

that they need

so even though even during medical

school i was really passionate about

tackling inequality

and a half outcomes i think it appealed

to that sense of fairness that has

guided a lot of the decisions in my life

and when you work in the system you

quickly see the factors that perpetuate

these outcomes such as certain

population groups struggling to get

early access to care

so even though i wasn’t technically

trained in mental health it was really

clear to me that if i was to innovate in

this space

it would make the biggest impact in

people’s lives

and that if i wanted to make an impact

at scale

technology was the only vehicle to do

this

and of course as a millennial it boggles

my mind that there is so much

convenience and control

that we have in our lives due to

technology

from being able to transfer money from

one bank account to another

from being able to hell a ride from

point a to b

and it would be as simple as a few taps

on your smartphone

but then when you think about how i

worked in healthcare

and i felt like i was stuck in the 1960s

still

using faxes and pages and for those of

you who are younger you probably have to

google that

um it didn’t make sense and the patient

really has to battle to get access to

their own health information

and not just to think about how and when

they’re going to get the care that they

need so the common link between all

these

innovations i’ve listed as they’re

considered disruptive

disruptive innovation is any innovation

that creates a new market

that eventually disrupts an existing

market because of the superior value

that it creates

and then that also displaces the

established marking leading firms and

the expected norms of how to do things

but yet when you read the headlines of

these disruptive

disruptive innovations they seem to be

filled with destruction

take for example in america in 2012

when amazon’s online sales started to

take off

employment numbers and department stores

plunged by 250 000 people

and as we get more and more used to

lower prices you’re going to expect more

of those brick and mortar stores to

close down

so is it possible that we can have

disruptive innovation in healthcare

without destruction maybe

in order to understand how to transform

a health system we first must understand

what type of system it is so healthcare

is a complex

adaptive system other examples of

complex system is the earth’s climate

your human brain and the reason these

systems are complex is because any

change to the system

leads to unintended consequences that

are difficult to predict

and in some cases even produce the

opposite of the desired outcome

and all of this is due to the

synergistic effects of the multiple

autonomous

inputs interacting with each other big

words i know

but let me give you a real life example

so if a surgeon is incentivized with a

pay for performance model

you expect that more surgeries would be

performed which is great

unless the reason more surgeries were

being performed was because shortcuts

were being taken

mistakes were being made and then the

patient has to come back to the

hospitals to have those short

mistakes be rectified

and perversely the surgeon then gets

paid again

so the theory is a system is made out of

nodes that are autonomous inputs

such as your health provider and your

patient and my hypothesis is

that if you create superior value and

connections between those nodes

you’re going to be able to disrupt

without being destructive

so a year ago i took a break from

clinical medicine to co-found

a tech startup called clearhead

clearhead is an

online one-stop-shop platform for mental

health and well-being that’s provided

directly to all new zealanders for free

and our vision is that we would improve

access to care

through the use of ai helping you figure

out what your mental health issue is

and then finding the help that you need

and we knew then

that the only way we could improve

access enough to meet the sheer demand

that’s out there is to use artificial

intelligence

we need to augment our limited

healthcare workforce because they do

take time to train

and build up and what about the

opportunity of technology to guide you

to the help that you need

rather than having to figure out this

confusing maze that our health system is

but if you want different outcomes you

need to make sure that the people

working the system

are going to do things differently and

the only way you’re going to achieve

that

is if you design with them something

that will make their life

easier not harder to do the right thing

so this is how we stumbled into the idea

of co-design

co-design simply means that all the key

stakeholders are involved in the design

and decision making of the solution that

you’re trying to build

and this is quite different from the

tick box consultation that often occurs

in healthcare where someone has a great

idea

from the top and then they ask for input

when it’s too late to make any sort of

significant changes

but fundamental to this process is the

need to make sure it’s centered around

the user

as they say nothing about us without us

and so we didn’t start off with

pre-formed solutions

we came with interviews to lots of those

with lived experience

to understand the problems that they

face as well as the outcomes

that they want to achieve so we saw them

not as hospital bed numbers

we saw them as people who had thoughts

on how the system should work for them

not the other way around and this is

important

97 of our current mental health funding

goes to the top three percent of those

with the most severe disorders

imagine if you rocked up to emergency

department with a broken arm and of the

100 people that came through

97 of you got turned away what sort of

uproar would that cause

and yet when our current government’s

goal is to increase access to the next

20 percent

i would argue that it’s still asking the

wrong question

and therefore going to lead you to the

wrong outcome which is which is that

majority of the people

still don’t have access to the care that

they need

but if instead you ask the question of

what will it take

for 100 of the people who need help to

get it and then you work backwards

you’ll realize the solution you have to

come up with has to be transformative

it cannot be more of the same

and when you finally get that working

prototype done

and you test it out in the real world

you have to keep refining it until it

works

and so there’s absolutely no room for

ego because you cannot believe that you

get it right the first time

in fact in the space of a year my tiny

team of six all of us under the age of

30

had to build completely from scratch

seven software platforms

just based on all the iterative feedback

that we got

and i’m really proud to say that none of

them work more than 40 hours a week

to achieve this because you know we

practice what we preach

and when i say to you co-design what is

it that’s the image in your head

is it an image of an exclusively invited

small team

what if i told you our process was one

that was ongoing

and it’s an open invitation that’s

involved more than 500 people to date

all across new zealand and just

clinicians alone

200 of them this picture represents one

of the many groups that we co-designed

with

groups that included mental health users

psychiatrists

non-governmental organizations and many

more

but if you want to involve people in

healthcare you have to be flexible

around the process because you know most

of us

are bloody overworked and so

a lot of the co-design process for us

was sometimes in groups

sometimes one-on-one many a video

conferences

and you can even tag team into the

process but if you choose to do that

you need to make sure that you have a

consistent team that is

across the whole process taking the

holistic view across the system

and then making sure that all the

different stakeholders understand how

their design input comes together

so having heard what i’ve said you could

probably assume that oh

they just build a digital tool but

actually we know gold standard for

improving someone’s mental health

is the human to human connection but

often there’s a lot of barriers that

prevent people from reaching that point

and so because of co-design we clearly

understood what the barriers were and

how we were going to solve

them so for example our ai chatbot

mimics a doctor’s consult

so in your own time in the privacy of

your own home you work through the

mental health issues you have

and then equipped with better

information you are then more likely to

go seek help from your doctor

which previously the stigma would have

stopped you from doing so

then of course there’s the social

license of using ai

there’s so much backlash right now with

the big tech companies on how they’re

exploiting your data

without your permission or your consent

around and then applying all these

algorithms that have

huge consequences clearhead explicitly

states that you own your own data

we don’t sell it and we keep it safe and

encrypted

and because we do that we build the

trust of our users

and because they co-design with us they

define how they want the

ai algorithms to be applied to their

data and in order to help them

but of course beyond trust we have to

show that

we deliver on the results that we

promise and so this is my favorite user

feedback

the chatbot confirmed what i had

suspected but didn’t want to face

i’m now seeking therapy for the issues

it raised

and it was so gratifying for us to have

this feedback come back

just a few months after we launched to

know that we’re already solving the

problem we had set out to solve

or that we’ve only been live for six

months and spread completely through

word of mouth

and we already have users from all

across the country

and reaching people with the worst

mental health outcomes

and i genuinely believe that co-design

was the only way we could have achieved

this because of the local champions we

build

and of course with anything in medicine

you need to make sure that it’s

objectively evaluated

so we’re currently running a research

trial with the university of otago

to have that

so here’s the moral of the story that

all you need is mass participation

well no you must still have experts in

the space

to be able to lead and facilitate this

process

otherwise you know the results you’re

going to get as well [ __ ]

take for example the new zealand flag

referendum

10 000 flag design submitted 2.2 million

votes

and 26 million dollars later 57

of those who voted chose to retain the

existing new zealand flag

and a part of the critique is that yes

it is our democratic right you know to

delve deep within ourselves and figure

out what the flag meant to us

but unless you have flag experts or

designers

to be able to satisfactorily channel the

sentiment of the masses

it’s no wonder the status quo was more

palatable than the alternatives

who knows maybe in an alternate universe

where they’ll be flying laser kiwi flag

with pride

but my other lesson is that it’s not

great ideas that we’re missing

in order to change the world it’s the

courage

to do so when i reflect upon the last

one year

the amazing grassroots support we have

from our users and our clinician

it was so gratifying right but then it

was frustrating

as hell actually when i had to deal with

the decision makers of our health system

where it felt like it was talking to a

brick wall

that i was constantly banging my head

against a brick wall because in general

they were really risk adverse

and just wanted to fund more of the same

because it was familiar

so my call to action to you is this

exercise your democratic right

vote into power those who are willing to

take calculated risk

to support innovation which will then

equip us to better deal with the

challenges of our time

we need to live in a society where we

allow for experimentation

and not penalize people to the media or

to the short-termism of how we vote

i really love that in 2015 finland

introduced into their prime minister’s

office

a department that ran social experiments

like the universal basic income

these carefully designed society-wide

policy trials

allows finland to understand how they

could run their society better

and it also gives permission to those

finnish civil servants to test

ideas without being afraid of the

repercussions

i wonder what our world would look like

if all our governments had experimental

departments

in order to deal with the challenges we

face

maybe then alice didn’t have to shrink

herself

to fit into that one door and that we

would have innovative technologies

in our health system to enable the

analysis of the world to come through

the door they want to

and my final word is this mental illness

is a normal part of our society and the

least we can do

is to for those who are seeking help

dignity

when doing so thank you

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所以这是我的故事

这对大多数人来说是行不通的

,就像爱丽丝试图穿过

那扇门进入仙境

,我们不要粉饰它医疗保健已经

坏了

,这在

心理健康方面最为明显。我们都有关于

自己或 我们关心的

人受到心理健康的影响

或更悲惨地死于自杀

你看到心理健康很普遍

你们中的一个人将在某个时候面临,

而在你最终寻求帮助时首先出现症状的人中

的滞后时间是 八年了

,但只有 20% 的

寻求帮助的人觉得他们得到了

他们需要的帮助,

所以即使在

医学院期间,我也非常热衷于

解决不平等问题

,我认为 它吸引

指导我生活中的许多决定的

公平感

没有

接受过心理健康方面的技术培训,

我很清楚,如果我要在这个领域进行创新,

它将对

人们的

生活产生最大的影响,如果我想产生

大规模的影响,

技术是唯一的手段

当然,作为千禧一代,这让

我难以置信的是,由于技术的存在,我们的生活中有如此多的

便利和控制

从能够将资金从

一个银行账户转移到另一个银行账户,

从能够从a点骑车到地狱

到 b

,它就像在智能手机上轻按几下一样简单,

但是当你想到我

在医疗保健领域的工作时

,我觉得我被困在 1960 年代

仍然

使用传真和页面和 fo r

你们当中那些年轻的人,你可能不得不在

谷歌上搜索,

嗯,这没有意义,患者

真的必须努力获得

自己的健康信息

,而不仅仅是考虑他们将如何以及何时

获得 他们需要的关心,

所以我列出的所有这些创新之间的共同联系,

因为它们被

认为是破坏性的

破坏性创新是任何

创造一个新市场的创新

,最终破坏现有

市场,因为它创造了卓越的价值

,然后 也取代了已

建立的标记领先公司和

如何做事的预期规范,

但是当你阅读这些破坏性颠覆性创新的头条新闻时,

它们似乎

充满了

破坏性,例如 2012 年在美国

亚马逊的在线销售开始

起飞

就业人数和

百货商店减少了 250 000 人

,随着我们越来越习惯于

降低价格,你会期待

更多 实体店

关闭

所以我们是否有可能

在不破坏医疗保健的情况下进行颠覆性创新

也许为了了解如何

改变卫生系统,我们首先必须了解

它是什么类型的系统,因此医疗保健

是一个复杂的

适应性系统

复杂系统的其他例子是地球气候,

您的人类大脑,这些

系统之所以复杂,是因为系统的任何

变化都会

导致难以预测的意外后果

,在某些情况下甚至会产生

与预期结果相反的结果,

以及所有 这是由于

多个

自主

输入相互交互的协同效应

我知道

但让我给你一个现实生活中的例子,

所以如果外科医生受到

绩效工资模型的激励,

你预计会进行更多的

手术 很好,

除非进行更多手术的

原因是因为走捷径

错误 正在制造,然后

患者必须回到

医院纠正这些短暂的

错误

,然后外科医生又得到

报酬,

因此理论上是一个系统

由自主输入的节点组成,

例如您的医疗保健提供者和 你的

病人和我的假设是

,如果你在这些节点之间创造卓越的价值和

连接,

你将能够在

不破坏性的情况下进行破坏,

所以一年前我从

临床医学中休息,共同创立

了一家名为 clearhead clearhead 的科技初创公司

是一个

在线一站式心理

健康和福祉平台,

直接免费提供给所有新西兰人

,我们的愿景是

通过使用人工智能帮助您

了解您的心理健康问题,从而改善获得护理的机会 是

,然后找到您需要的帮助

,我们当时

知道,我们可以改善

访问能力以满足纯粹

需求的唯一方法是使用人工智能

我们需要增加我们有限的

医疗保健劳动力,因为他们确实

需要时间来培训

和建立,以及

技术的机会来引导

您获得所需的帮助,

而不是必须弄清楚

我们的卫生系统是一个令人困惑的迷宫,

但是 如果您想要不同的结果,您

需要确保使用

该系统的

人会以不同

的方式做事,而您要实现这一目标的唯一方法

是,如果您与他们一起设计

一些可以让他们的生活

更轻松而不是更难做的事情 正确的事情,

所以这就是我们如何偶然发现

协同设计的想法

协同设计仅仅意味着所有关键

利益相关者都参与了您尝试构建

的解决方案的设计和决策

,这与 在医疗保健领域

经常出现的勾选框咨询,

其中有人

从高层提出了一个好主意,然后他们

在为时已晚而无法做出任何

重大改变时征求意见

b 这个过程的基础是

需要确保它

以用户

为中心,因为他们在没有我们的情况下对我们什么也没说

,所以我们没有从

预先形成的解决方案

开始,我们采访了许多

有生活经验的人

来了解 他们面临的问题

以及

他们想要达到的结果,所以我们认为它们

不是医院床位数量,

我们认为他们是

对系统应该如何为他们工作而

不是相反的想法的人,这很

重要

97 我们目前的心理健康

资金中有 3% 流向了最严重疾病患者的前 3%

这个原因

,然而,当我们现任政府的

目标是增加进入下一个

20% 的机会时,

我会争辩说它仍然在问

错误的问题

,因此会把你引向

错误的方向 结果是

大多数人

仍然无法获得他们需要的护理,

但是如果您问

100个需要帮助的人需要什么才能

获得护理,然后您向后工作

你会意识到你必须

想出的解决方案必须是变革性的,

它不能更相同

,当你最终完成工作

原型

并在现实世界中对其进行测试时,

你必须不断完善它直到它

工作

所以绝对没有

自我的空间,因为你无法相信你

在一年的时间里第一次就做对了,我这个

由六个人组成的小团队,我们所有人都在 30 岁以下,

必须完全从头开始构建

七个软件平台

只是基于我们得到的所有迭代反馈

,我真的很自豪地说,他们中没有

一个人每周工作超过 40 小时

来实现这一目标,因为你知道我们

实践我们所宣扬的

,当我对你说时,共同设计什么 是

这样吗 你脑海

中的形象是一个专门受邀的

团队的形象 如果我告诉你我们的过程是

一个正在进行的过程

,这是一个公开的邀请,

迄今为止,新西兰各地有超过 500 人参与其中

,仅

临床医生就有

200 人 他们这张照片代表

了我们

包括心理健康用户、

精神病医生、

非政府组织等在内的众多团体共同设计的众多团体之一,

但如果你想让人们参与

医疗保健,你必须

在整个过程中保持灵活,因为你知道的最多

我们中的

一些人工作过度,所以我们

的很多共同设计

过程有时是在小组中,

有时是一对一的视频

会议

,你甚至可以将团队标记到这个

过程中,但如果你选择这样做,

你需要 确保您有一个

贯穿整个流程的一致团队,从

整个系统的整体观点出发

,然后确保所有

不同的利益相关者都了解如何

他们的设计意见汇集在一起,

所以听到我所说的,您可能

会认为哦,

他们只是构建了一个数字工具,但

实际上我们知道

改善某人心理健康的黄金标准

是人与人之间的联系,但

通常存在很多障碍

阻止人们达到那个点

,因此由于协同设计,我们清楚地

了解障碍是什么以及

我们将如何解决

这些障碍,例如,我们的人工智能聊天机器人

模仿医生的咨询,

因此在您自己的时间在

您自己家的隐私中 您解决了您遇到的

心理健康问题

,然后配备了更好的

信息,然后您更有可能

向您的医生寻求帮助,

而以前的耻辱会

阻止您这样做,

那么当然有

使用 AI 的社会许可,

就是这样 现在

,大型科技公司强烈反对他们如何在

未经您许可或您同意的情况下利用您的数据

,然后应用所有 这些

会产生

巨大后果的算法 clearhead 明确

声明您拥有自己的数据,

我们不会出售它,我们会确保其安全和

加密

,因为我们这样做了,所以我们建立

了用户的信任,

并且因为他们与我们共同设计,所以他们

定义 他们希望如何将

人工智能算法应用于他们的

数据并为他们提供帮助,

但当然超出信任,我们必须

证明

我们兑现了我们承诺的结果

,所以这是我最喜欢的用户

反馈聊天机器人证实了我所拥有的

怀疑但不想面对

我现在正在为它提出的问题寻求治疗

,我们很高兴

在我们推出几个月后收到这些反馈,

知道我们已经解决了

我们的问题 已经着手解决,

或者我们只存在

六个月并完全通过

口耳相传

,我们已经拥有来自全国各地的用户,

并接触到心理健康状况最差的人

,我属 inely 相信协同设计

是我们实现这一目标的唯一途径,

因为我们建立了本地冠军

,当然还有任何医学领域,

您需要确保对其进行

客观评估,

因此我们目前正在

与大学进行研究试验

奥塔哥有这个,

所以这就是这个故事的寓意

,你所需要的只是大众参与,

不,你必须仍然有

该领域的专家

才能领导和促进这个

过程,

否则你知道你

会得到的结果

以新西兰国旗公投为例

10 000 国旗设计提交了 220 万

和 2600 万美元之后

57 名投票者选择保留

现有的新西兰国旗

,部分批评是,是的,

这是我们的民主权利 您知道

深入了解自己并

弄清楚旗帜对我们意味着什么,

但除非您有旗帜专家或

设计师

能够令人满意地

传达 t 的情绪 群众

,难怪现状

比其他人更可口,

他们知道也许在另一个宇宙

中他们会自豪地悬挂激光奇异鸟旗

但我的另一个教训是

,我们

为了 改变世界,

当我回顾过去

一年

我们从用户和临床医生

那里

得到的惊人

的草根支持时,这是一种勇气 我们的卫生系统的制造商

,感觉就像是在和一堵砖墙说话

,我一直在用头

撞砖墙,因为总的来说

他们确实是风险不利的

,只是想为更多相同的资金提供资金,

因为它很熟悉,

所以我的 呼吁您采取行动是

行使您的民主权利

投票掌权的人愿意

承担有计划的风险

来支持创新,这

将使我们能够更好地应对

挑战 在我们的时代,

我们需要生活在一个

允许实验

而不是惩罚人们对媒体或

我们投票方式的短期主义的社会中,

我真的很喜欢芬兰在 2015 年

将一个部门引入总理办公室

像全民基本收入这样的社会实验

这些精心设计的全社会

政策试验

让芬兰了解他们

如何更好地管理社会

,也让

芬兰公务员可以在

不害怕后果的情况下测试想法

我想知道我们的世界是什么 看起来

如果我们所有的政府都有实验

部门来应对我们面临的

挑战,那么爱丽丝就不必缩小

自己

以适应那一扇门,

我们的卫生系统将拥有创新技术来进行

分析 全世界的人都想通过

他们想要的门

而我的最后一句话是这种精神疾病

是我们的正常组成部分 社会,

我们至少可以

为那些寻求帮助的人提供

尊严

,谢谢