Could the sun be good for your heart Richard Weller

so before I became a dermatologist I

started in general medicine as as most

dermatologists do in Britain at the end

of that time I went off to Australia

about 20 years ago what you learn when

you go to Australia is the Australians

are very competitive and and they are

not magnanimous in victory and and that

happened a lot I knew Pommies you can’t

play cricket rugby I I could accept that

but moving into work and we have each

week what’s called a journal Club when

you’d sit down with the other doctors

and you’d study a scientific paper in

relation to medicine and after week one

it was about cardiovascular mortality a

dry subject how many people die of heart

disease what the rates are and they were

competitive about this you Pommies

you’re rates of heart disease are

shocking and of course they were right

Australians have about 1/3 less heart

disease than we do less deaths from

heart attacks heart failure less strokes

they’re generally healthier Bunch and of

course they said this was because of

their fine moral standing their exercise

because they’re Australians and we’re we

easy Pommies and so on but you know it’s

not just Australia that has better

health than Britain within Britain there

is a gradient of health and this is

what’s called standardized mortality

basically your chances of dying this is

looking at data from the paper about 20

years ago but it’s true today comparing

your rates of dying at 50 degrees north

that’s the South that’s London and

places um by latitude and 55 degrees the

bad news is that’s here Glasgow I’m from

Edinburgh worst news that’s even

Edinburgh okay so there is

so what accounts for this horrible space

here between us up here in southern

Scotland and the south now we know about

smoking deep-fried Mars bars trips the

Glasgow diet all of these things but

this graph is after taking into account

all of these known risk factors this is

after accounting for smoking social

class diet all those other known

respects we are left with this missing

space of increased deaths the further

north you gaze now sunlight of course

comes into this and vitamin D has had a

great deal of press and a lot of people

get concerned about it and we need

vitamin D it’s now a requirement that

children have a certain amount my

grandmother grew up in Glasgow back in

the 1920s and 30s when rickets was a

real problem and cod liver oil was

brought in and that really prevented the

rickets that used to be common in this

city and I as a child was fed cod liver

oil by my grandmother I distinctly

nobody forgets cod liver oil but an

association the higher people’s blood

levels of vitamin D are the less heart

disease they have the less cancer there

seems to be a lot of data suggesting

that vitamin D is very good for you and

it is to prevent rickets and so on but

if you give people vitamin D supplements

you don’t change that high rate of heart

disease and the evidence for it

preventing cancers is not yet great so

what I’m going to suggest is that

vitamin D is not the only story in town

it’s not the only reason preventing

heart disease high vitamin D levels I

think are a marker for sunlight exposure

and sunlight exposure in methods I’m

gonna show is good for heart disease

anyway I came back from Australia and

despite the obvious risks to my health I

moved to Aberdeen

now in Aberdeen I started my dermatology

training but I also became interested in

research and in particular I became

interested in this substance nitric

oxide now these three guys up here first

got big marrow Murad won the Nobel Prize

for medicine back in 1998 and they were

the first people to describe this new

chemical transmitter nitric oxide what

nitric oxide does is it dilates blood

vessels so it lowers your blood pressure

it also dilates the coronary arteries

stops angina and what was remarkable

about it was in the past when we think

of chemical messengers or in the body we

thought of complicated things like

estrogen and insulin or nerve

transmission very complex processes with

very complex chemicals that fit into

very complex receptors and here’s this

incredibly simple molecule a nitrogen

and an oxygen that have stuck together

and yet these are hugely important for

painting our low blood pressure for

neurotransmission for many many things

but particularly cardiovascular health

and I started doing research and we

found very excitingly that the skin

produces nitric oxide so it’s not just

in the cardiovascular system that arises

it arises in the skin while having found

that and published that I thought well

what’s it doing how do you have a low

blood pressure in your skin you know

it’s not the heart what do you do

so I went off to the States as many

people do if they’re going to do

research and I spent a few years in

Pittsburgh

um this is Pittsburgh and I was

interested in these really kind of

complex systems we fought them maybe

nitric oxide affected cell death and how

cells survive and their resistance to

other things and I first of all started

working in cell culture growing cells

and then as using knockout mouse models

mice that couldn’t make me the gene we

worked out a mechanism which I know was

helping cells survive and I then moved

back to Edinburgh and in Edinburgh the

experimental animal we use is the

medical student it’s a species close to

human with several advantages over mice

they’re free you don’t shave them they

feed themselves and nobody pickets your

office saying save the lab medical

student so they’re really an ideal an

ideal model

but what we found was that we couldn’t

reproduce in man the data we had shown

in mice it seemed we couldn’t turn off

the production of nitric oxide in the

skin of humans we put on creams that

block the enzyme that made it and we

injected things we couldn’t turn off the

the nitric oxide and the reason for this

it turned out after two or three years

work was in the skin

we have huge stores not of nitric oxide

because nitric oxide is a gas and it’s

released and in a few seconds it’s away

but it can be turned into these forms of

nitric oxide nitrate no3 nitrite no.2

might raise with us and these are more

stable and your skin has got really

large stores of Na and we then thought

to ourselves all those big stores

I wonder if sunlight might activate

those stores and release them from the

skin where the stores are about ten

times as big as what’s in the

circulation could the Sun activate those

stores into the circulation and they’re

in the circulation can do it’s good

things for your cardiovascular system

well I’m an experimental dermatologist

so what we did was we thought we have to

expose our experimental animals to

sunlight and so what we did was we took

a bunch of volunteers and we expose them

to ultraviolet light so these are kind

of Sun lamps

now what we were careful to do was

vitamin D is made by ultraviolet B rays

and we wanted to separate our story from

the vitamin D story so we used

ultraviolet a which doesn’t make vitamin

D when we put people under a lamp for

the equivalent of about 30 minutes of

sunshine in summer in Edinburgh what we

produced was removed a rise in

circulating nitric oxide so we put

patients with these subjects under the

UV and then enno levels do go up and

their blood pressure goes down not by

much as an individual level but enough

at a population level to shift the rates

of heart disease in a whole population

and when we Shawn UV at them or when we

warmed them up to the same level as the

Lambs but didn’t actually that the rays

hit the skin this didn’t happen so this

seems to be a feature of ultraviolet

rays hitting the skin now we’re still

collecting data a few good things here

where this appeared to be more marked in

older people I’m not sure exactly how

much one of the subjects here was my

mother-in-law and clearly I do not know

her age but certainly in people older

than my wife this appears to be a more

marked effect and the other thing I

should mention was there was no change

in bitumen D this is separate from

vitamin D so vitamin D is good for you

it stops rickets it provides calcium

atados important stuff but this is a

separate mechanism from vitamin D now

one of the problems are looking at blood

pressure is your body does everything it

can to keep your blood pressure at the

same place if your leg is chopped off

and you lose blood your body will clamp

down increase the heart rate do

everything it can to keep your blood

pressure up that is an absolutely

fundamental physiological principle so

what we’ve next done is we’ve moved on

to looking at blood vessel dilatation so

we’ve measured this is again notice no

tail and and hairless this is a medical

student okay in the arm you can measure

how Doug flow in the arm by how much it

swells up as some blood flows into it

and what we’ve shown is adding a sham

irradiation this is the thick line here

this is shining UV on the arms that

warms up but keeping it cupboards the

Rays don’t hit the skin there is no

change in blood flow in in dilatation of

the blood vessels but the act of

irradiation during the UV and for an

hour after it there is dilation of the

blood vessels this is the mechanism by

which you lower blood pressure by which

you dilate the coronary arteries also to

let the blood be supplied with heart so

here further data that ultraviolet that

sunlight has benefits on the blood flow

and the cardiovascular system so we

thought were just kind of model at

different amounts of UV hit the earth at

different parts of the earth at

different times of year so you can

actually work out those stores of nitric

oxide the nitrates nitrites might rosa

files on the skin release a cleave to

release n-no different wavelengths of

light have different activities of doing

that so you can look at the wavelengths

that like to do that and you can look

if you live on the equator the Sun comes

straight overhead it comes to a very

thin bit of atmosphere and winter or

summer it’s the same amount of light if

you live up here in summer sun’s coming

fairly directly down but in winter it’s

coming through a huge amount of

atmosphere and much of the ultraviolet

is weeded out and that range of

wavelengths he earth are different in

summer to winter so what you can is you

can multiply those data by the n oh

that’s released and you can calculate

how much nitric oxide would be released

from the skin into the circulation now

if you’re on the equator here that’s

these two lines here the red line and

the Purple Line and the amount of nitric

oxide that’s released is the area under

the curve is the area in this space here

so if you’re on the equator December or

June you’ve got masses of n Oh being

released from the skin so Ventura is in

Southern California in summer you might

as well be at the equator it’s great

lots of air no it’s released for

interior mid winter well there’s still

you know a decent amount Edinburgh in

summer the area beneath the curve is

really good but Edinburgh in winter you

know the amount of air no that can be

released is next to nothing tiny amounts

so what do we think we’re still working

at this story we’re still developing it

with SIL expanding it we think it’s very

important and we think it probably

accounts for a lot of the north-south

health divide within Britain it’s of

relevance to us we think that the skin

well we know that the skin has got very

large stores of nitric oxide as is

various other forms we suspect a lot of

these come from diet green leafy

vegetables beet roots lettuce has a lot

of these nitric oxides that we think go

to the skin we think they’re then stored

in the skin and we think the sunlight

releases this where it has generally

beneficial effects and this is ongoing

work but I mean dermatologists I’m and

I’m a dermatologist my day job is saying

to people you’ve got skin cancer it’s

caused by sunlight don’t go in the Sun I

actually think a far more important

message is that there are benefits as

well as risks to sunlight yes sunlight

is the is the major alterable

risk factor for skin cancer but deaths

from heart disease are a hundred times

higher than deaths from skin cancer and

I think that we need

to be more aware of and we need to find

the risk-benefit ratio how much sunlight

is safe how can we kind of finesse this

best for our general health so thank you

very much indeed

所以在我成为皮肤科医生之前,我

开始像大多数

皮肤科医生在英国做的那样,在

大约 20 年前我去了澳大利亚,当你去澳大利亚时,你学到的

是澳大利亚人

非常有竞争力,而且他们

胜利时并不宽宏大量,而且这种

情况经常发生

你会研究一篇与医学有关的科学论文,第一

周后

它是关于心血管死亡率的一个

枯燥的主题有多少人死于心脏病,

死亡率是多少,他们

在这方面很有竞争力,你Pommies,

你心脏病的发病率是多少

令人震惊,当然他们是对的

他们说这是因为

他们良好的道德立场 他们的锻炼

是因为他们是澳大利亚人,我们是

容易的 Pommies 等等,但你知道,

不仅仅是澳大利亚的

健康状况比英国好,英国内部

还有健康的梯度,这 就是

所谓的标准化死亡率,

基本上你的死亡几率这是

查看大约 20 年前论文中的数据,

但今天比较

你在北纬 50 度的死亡率是真的

,那是伦敦的南方,

按纬度和 55 度放置

新闻就是这里,格拉斯哥,我来自

爱丁堡

饮食所有这些东西,但

这张图是在考虑了

所有这些已知的风险因素

之后,这是在考虑了吸烟社会

阶层饮食之后所有其他的 r 已知的

方面,我们留下了

死亡人数增加的缺失空间,

您现在注视更远的北方,现在阳光当然

会照进来,维生素 D 受到了

很大的关注,很多人

对此感到担忧,我们需要

维生素 D 现在要求

孩子有一定的数量 我

祖母在

1920 年代和 30 年代在格拉斯哥长大,当时佝偻病是一个

真正的问题,并且

引入了鱼肝油,这确实防止了

过去在这个

城市和我常见的佝偻病 小时候

,我祖母给我喂了鱼肝油,我显然

没有人忘记鱼肝油,但是

人们的血液

中维生素 D 水平越高,患心脏病的几率就越低,

他们患的癌症就越少,

似乎有很多数据

表明维生素 D D 对你非常有好处,

它可以预防佝偻病等,但

如果你给人们补充维生素 D,

你不会改变心脏病的高发病率

预防癌症的证据 ers 还不是很好,所以

我要建议的是,

维生素 D 不是镇上唯一的故事,

这不是预防心脏病的唯一原因

高维生素 D 水平我

认为是阳光照射

和方法中阳光照射的标志

无论如何我都会证明对心脏病有好处 我从澳大利亚回来,

尽管对我的健康有明显的风险,但我

现在在阿伯丁搬到了阿伯丁,我开始了我的皮肤病学

培训,但我也对研究产生了兴趣

,特别是我

对此产生了兴趣 物质一

氧化氮 现在这三个家伙首先

得到了大骨髓 穆拉德

在 1998 年获得了诺贝尔医学奖,他们

是第一个描述这种新的

化学递质一氧化氮的人

一氧化氮的作用是扩张

血管,从而降低你的 血压

它还扩张冠状动脉

停止心绞痛

过去,当我们

想到化学信使或在我们的身体中时,它的

非凡之处在于 很多复杂的东西,比如

雌激素和胰岛素或神经

传递,非常复杂的过程,

非常复杂的化学物质,适合

非常复杂的受体,这是一个

非常简单的分子,一个氮气

和一个氧气,它们粘在一起

,但这些对于

描绘我们的低血量非常重要

许多事情的神经传递压力

,尤其是心血管健康

,我开始做研究,我们

非常兴奋地发现皮肤

会产生一氧化氮,所以它不仅仅是

在心血管系统中产生的,

它在皮肤中产生,同时

发现并发表了我 好好

想想这是怎么回事

你的皮肤血压怎么低 你知道

这不是心脏 你在做什么

所以我去了美国,就像很多

人做

研究一样,我花了一些时间 在匹兹堡多年,

嗯,这是匹兹堡,我

对这些真正

复杂的系统很感兴趣,我们可能会与他们

抗争 ric oxide 影响细胞死亡以及

细胞如何存活以及它们对

其他事物的抵抗力,我首先

开始在细胞培养中工作,使细胞生长

,然后使用基因敲除小鼠模型

小鼠,这些小鼠不能使我成为基因,我们

制定了一种机制,我 知道

帮助细胞存活,然后我

搬回爱丁堡,在爱丁堡,

我们使用的实验动物是

医学生,它是一种接近人类的物种,

与老鼠相比有几个优势

它们是自由的,你不刮胡子它们

自己喂食,没有人 纠察你的

办公室说拯救实验室医学

生所以他们真的是一个理想的

理想模型

但我们发现我们无法

在人类身上重现我们在老鼠身上显示的数据

似乎我们无法

关闭生产

人类皮肤中的一氧化氮 我们涂上了能

阻止产生它的酶的乳霜,我们

注射了我们无法

关闭一氧化氮的东西,原因是

两到三年后才发现 Ars 的

工作是在皮肤上,

我们有大量的一氧化氮储存,

因为一氧化氮是一种气体,它会

在几秒钟内释放出来,

但它可以转化为这些形式的

一氧化氮 硝酸盐 3 号亚硝酸盐 2 号

可能会升高 我们和这些更

稳定,你的皮肤有非常

大的钠储存,然后

我们想到所有那些大储存,

我想知道阳光是否会激活

这些储存并将它们从皮肤释放出来

,储存大约是皮肤的

十倍大

循环中有什么太阳可以激活这些

储存进入循环并且它们

在循环中可以

对你的心血管

系统有好处我是一名实验皮肤科医生

所以我们所做的是我们认为我们必须

暴露我们的实验动物

晒太阳,所以我们做的是我们带

了一群志愿者,我们让他们

暴露在紫外线下,所以这些是

一种太阳灯,

现在我们小心翼翼地做的是

维生素 D 是由 ul 制造的 traviolet B 射线

,我们想把我们的故事

与维生素 D 的故事分开,所以我们使用

紫外线 a,

当我们将人们放在灯下时,它不会产生维生素 D

,相当于爱丁堡夏天在大约 30 分钟的

阳光下我们

生产的 消除了

循环一氧化氮的升高,因此我们将

这些受试者的患者置于

紫外线下,然后 enno 水平确实上升,

他们的血压下降

幅度不及个体水平,但足以

在人群水平上改变

心率 整个人群中的疾病

,当我们对它们进行紫外线照射或当我们将

它们加热到与羔羊相同的水平

但实际上并没有射线

击中皮肤时,这并没有发生,所以这

似乎是紫外线的一个特征

射线现在照射到皮肤上 我们仍在

收集数据 这里有一些好东西

这似乎在老年人中更为明显

我不确定

这里的受试者中有多少是我的

岳母,很明显 不知道

她的年龄,但肯定在比我妻子大的人身上,

这似乎是一个更显

着的效果,我应该提到的另一件事

是沥青 D 没有变化,这与维生素 D 是分开的,

所以维生素 D 对你有好处,

它可以阻止佝偻病 提供钙

atados 重要的东西,但这是

与维生素 D 不同的机制,

现在看血压的问题之一

是如果你的腿被砍掉并且你失血,你的身体会尽

一切努力将血压保持在

同一位置

你的身体会

压制 增加心率 尽

一切可能保持

血压升高 这是一个绝对

基本的生理原理 所以

我们接下来要做的是我们已经

开始观察血管扩张 所以

我们已经测量了 这又是注意没有

尾巴和无毛这是一个医学

生在手臂上还可以你可以

通过一些血液流入它时肿胀的程度来衡量道格如何在手臂中流动

以及我们已经采取了什么措施 wn 正在添加假

照射 这是粗线

这是在手臂上照射紫外线,它会

变暖但保持在橱柜

光线不会击中皮肤 血管

扩张时血流没有变化,

但是

在紫外线照射期间和照射

后一小时内,血管扩张,

这是降低血压的机制,

通过扩张冠状动脉也可以

让血液供应心脏,所以

这里有进一步的数据 紫外线,

阳光对血液流动

和心血管系统有好处,所以我们

认为这只是一种模型,

不同数量的紫外线在一年中的不同时间照射到

地球的不同地方,

所以你

实际上可以计算出这些硝酸盐的储存量

氧化物 硝酸盐 亚硝酸盐 可能会

在皮肤上产生裂痕 释放裂痕以

释放 n-没有不同波长的

光有不同的活动

,因此您可以查看波长

喜欢那样做 你可以看看

如果你住在赤道上 太阳

直接从头顶升起 它会进入一个非常

稀薄的大气层 冬天或

夏天 如果

你住在夏天太阳

相当直接 下降,但在冬天,它

会穿过大量的

大气层,大部分紫外线

都被清除掉了,而且

他地球的波长范围在夏天和冬天是不同的,

所以你

可以将这些数据乘以释放的 n

oh 和 如果你在赤道上,你可以计算

一下现在有多少一氧化氮会

从皮肤释放到循环中

,这就是

这两条线,红线

和紫线,释放的一氧化氮量

是下面的

面积 曲线是这个空间的面积,

所以如果你在十二月或六月的赤道上,

你的皮肤会释放出大量的 n Oh,

所以文图拉

在夏天在南加州,你还不

如成为 在赤道,它有

大量的空气,不,它是

在冬季中期

释放的 几乎没有什么微不足道的

所以我们认为我们仍在

研究这个故事我们仍在开发它

并通过 SIL 扩展它我们认为它非常

重要并且我们认为它可能

占了南北

健康差距的很大一部分 英国 它

与我们息息相关 我们认为皮肤

很清楚 我们知道皮肤有

大量的一氧化氮 就像

其他各种形式一样 我们怀疑其中

很多来自饮食 绿叶

蔬菜 甜菜根 生菜有

很多 我们认为会进入皮肤的一氧化氮,

我们认为它们会储存

在皮肤中,我们认为阳光

会在通常具有有益效果的地方释放它

,这是正在进行的

工作,但我的意思是皮肤科医生 我是,

我是一名皮肤科医生,我的日常工作是

对患有皮肤癌的人说这

是由阳光引起的 不要晒太阳 我

实际上认为一个更重要的

信息是有好处

也有风险 是的,阳光

是皮肤癌的主要可变

风险因素,但

心脏病

死亡人数比皮肤癌死亡人数高一百倍,

我认为我们

需要更加了解,我们需要

找到风险收益 比例

多少阳光是安全的