Why Weve Stopped Trying to Understand Ourselves

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the idea

that motivated this talk is one that’s

bothered me

in an abstract academic way for a long

time

but given the nature of the crises that

define our present moment

it’s emerged as a more pressing concern

one that i think is worth sharing

i feel like the way we study human

behavior is disorganized

somehow we’ve got political scientists

and economists

who whether they’re trying to understand

how people spend their money or how

people choose to vote

assume that they’re trying to maximize

their well-being ceteris paribus

at the same time we have philosophers

psychologists and sociologists

who take it for granted that morality

social norms and cooperation

structure our decision making these

views

seem pretty obviously incompatible to me

and i think that’s a problem because

whether you’re studying

how whether you’re studying

why it’s so hard for people to

abide by quarantine restrictions or why

social media is so addictive

or even why some people might think the

2020 election was rigged

human behavior and more specifically

human decision making

is central to your work now don’t get me

wrong each of these different approaches

has led to incredible insights and

incredible discoveries

that wouldn’t have been possible without

their specialization

i just think it’s weird that we don’t

talk about the fact that they contradict

each other

herbert guintas the economist turned

behavioral scientist

really makes my point in an eloquent way

he says that

incoherence is now an impediment to

future progress

now how did we get here have we always

had this disjointed approach to

understanding human behavior

i don’t think so and i’m going to use

adam smith as a case study because he’s

someone who’s so well entrenched so

defined as a per as a paragon of

a solidly defined field today that of

economics

but i think he’s the kind of person that

studied human behavior head-on

he’s famous now for two

major works first a theory of moral

sentiments

and then the wealth of nations today

these might be characterized as two

separate endeavors the first into

psychology

and the second into economics but one

secret to smith’s

success that i think would be much

harder to replicate today

is that these distinctions between art

and science between psychology and

economics

wouldn’t have been evident to him his

project wasn’t one of bridging

interdisciplinary divides

rather he was conducting a

straightforward assessment of how people

make their decisions

and how those decisions influence their

interpersonal affairs

now to understand how we got from this

mindset this unitary understanding of

human behavior

to our present more confused one

we have to step back a little into the

recent history of behavioral economics

this discipline got started under an

israeli psychologist named daniel conman

who found through a series of

experiments that we all make bad choices

this came to undermine the fundamental

assumption

embedded in economics and political

science and other disciplines that

people maximize their own well-being all

the time

and this work by conmen

really became influential in time but

never really breached the mainstream of

these fields

if i had to give this talk in only three

sentences

this is what i would say i would tell

you that in 2002 conman won the nobel

prize in economics

then daniel conman has never taken an

economics course in his life

and finally what should surprise us

about that is not that he was able to

influence

this field despite his relative naivety

but rather that we’ve all gone back to

work since then as if it wasn’t a big

deal

his insights have formed behavioral

economics as a sub-field

kind of an appendage to economics as a

discipline as a whole

and they’ve also been influential

outside of their field in

behavioral science which applies his

insights called biases and heuristics

to a whole bunch of different topics

biases and heuristics are basically the

shortcuts that we make these

cognitive kind of cheats that answer

easy problems instead of the hard ones

that face us even if those easy problems

don’t quite

get at the answers we’re looking for

human mcgill we’re working

to try and broaden the way we understand

human behavior

one such example is expanding economics

a student group

that has tried to broaden their

department’s

notion of what they study they’ve tried

to incorporate ecological approaches

as well as behavioral ones to try and

modernize these pillars that still

uphold much of the traditional

discipline

i think if adam smith was still alive

today

he’d have much more to talk about with

someone like daniel conman

than he would with many of the leading

traditional economists of our era

smith’s psychological conclusions drove

his economic ones and he even presaged

much of what we consider cutting edge in

behavioral economics today

when it comes to self-interest and the

way he understood it

he incorporated these notions that

material success

and consumption are these things that we

expect to bring us happiness subjective

happiness

and even as those expectations are

violated over and over we pursue them in

a somewhat irrational way that doesn’t

actually maximize our well-being

now as much as i might romanticize smith

and his contemporaries

we can’t go back to studying the way

they did and even if we could it

wouldn’t solve the problem

that i’m putting forward today we live

in an age

of unprecedented access to information

and it’s led to the sort of discoveries

which are unparalleled in human history

the fact that we’ve brought a covert

vaccine to market in less than a year

astounds me and it couldn’t happen

without the sort of hyper-specialization

that characterizes modern science the

problem is when it comes to human

behavior

things aren’t quite so smooth

we may have knowledge of exactly who

should design

each component of the covert vaccine

but when it comes to

making a plan for how to convince people

to take it

things aren’t quite so clear that’s

because that involves human behavior so

all of a sudden we’re paralyzed

arbitrary barriers crop up between

sub-disciplines and human behavior

and they prevent the necessary sort of

conversations that would unite the field

and give the sort of clarity necessary

to solve these big issues

i work at a research firm here in

montreal that tries to apply behavioral

science

to all sorts of problems for the public

good we work with people in health care

finance education and public policy as

well as under

other industries to try and lend

some expertise in decision making and

some knowledge of what is really the

cutting edge of the field

to what they do because each of them are

dealing with human decisions and human

behavior

and even though they recognize that they

don’t necessarily have

the language to grapple with it and i

think

that makes our job harder than it might

otherwise be and it makes their jobs

hard too because

they don’t have a unified way of

connecting their insights to what’s also

happening

in other disciplines that are studying

similar problems with different

languages

now i think this is the consequence of a

disorganized academic sphere

we have the tools to connect

these different disciplines but they’re

not available to us yet

i firmly believe that human decision

making is foundational

for the humanities it’s almost like a

metaphysics for social science

or governance if you will this doesn’t

mean that each of these different

experts needs to

all of a sudden become an expert in

decision making too

rather we need to get to a point where

there’s shared language there’s shared

communication

that overlap between these barriers that

have arisen between different ways

of studying similar problems

since the enlightenment the study of

decision making has become this

fragmented

siloed endeavor where people are going

off in different directions

not necessarily aware of what’s

happening in other potentially relevant

fields

we see an analogous situation in our

democracies as well

on social media when people talk about

echo chambers they’re referring to these

restructured social networks that have

come to

organize the way we get our information

and what’s happening there too

is that we’re bounded by our common

assumptions about how the world

works and the people in charge of

reorganizing this new

field upon which we interact with each

other have done so in a way

that were sheltered from opposing

opinions

and it’s the same whether you’re writing

a literature review

on topics that only pertain to your

specific field of study

or in on facebook with a feed that

already

kind of agrees with 99 of what you

believe in

by no fault of your own you’re bounded

within a limited sphere of knowledge and

you’re unable

to embrace the sort of unknown that you

could if you have that ability to do

some critical thinking

with people that disagree with you i

firmly think our brains can handle

modernity

it just needs to be presented in the

right way

we have these unparalleled information

processing machines

and there’s also precedent for making

this work in physics

we’ve gone from a newtonian rational

ordered paradigm to one characterized

by relativity and quantum theory in

ethics we have these alternate

alternative frameworks for understanding

the field

whether it’s kantian or utilitarian ways

of organizing a theory of the good

these big broad notions give just a

little bit of insight

they give some suggestion to someone who

otherwise might not know so much about

the field

into what they’re going to expect they

make it just that much easier

to access the complicated cutting edge

of the field by organizing all the

different specialties in a way

that can make sense

this is what we need in human behavior

we have no paradigm

and if we could organize our knowledge

in a similar way i think we could make

great strides towards solving some of

the issues that beset us

this missing paradigm has profound

implications in our political society

we have these idealized notions of

ourselves

that have kind of come detached from the

daily experience

of being a human being when we think of

what it is to be human who we are

what it is to act like a person

there’s these platitudes that come up

whether it’s that we’re all born equal

that we maximize our well-being that

we’re autonomous moral

responsible you name it they’re

completely detached from the daily

experience

of walking by injustice on the sidewalk

or even just recognizing that we’re all

coming from different backgrounds and

all have different abilities

or even that we don’t always make

decisions in our own best interests

the reason that these this detachment

occurs

is because it’s too difficult to grapple

with these core beliefs about who we are

without a framework to process it

through and we’re lacking that framework

we don’t have an understanding of human

behavior

that would give us the conceptual

grounds

with which we could take down this

pedestal and engage in a complicated

activity

of thinking about what it means to be

human and

engaging on that on that more profound

level

i think the solution here is more than

studying several topics at once

we need to organize our knowledge in

ways that make sense we need to

recognize decision making as a

foundational discipline

if we design systems that cater to our

cognitive preferences

i think we can do wonders for the issues

that face us

whether you’re trying to grapple

with changing demographics and social

realities

or understanding the

complex scientific explanations provided

for why you can’t see your friends

or even just recognizing that people are

complicated and difficult to predict

i don’t see how the external world can

be

any less complicated than the human mind

we understand what’s out there pretty

well if we want to improve it

we have to understand ourselves a little

bit better first

thank you

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引发这次谈话的想法

是一个以抽象的学术方式困扰我很长时间的想法,

但鉴于定义我们当前时刻的危机的性质,

它已成为一个更紧迫的

问题,我认为值得分享

我 感觉我们研究人类行为的方式

是杂乱无章的

我们有政治科学家

和经济学家

,无论他们试图

了解人们如何花钱或

人们如何选择投票

,他们都假设他们正在努力最大限度地提高

他们的福祉 在其他条件不变的情况

下,同时我们有哲学家、

心理学家和社会学家

,他们理所当然地认为道德、

社会规范和合作

构成了我们的决策,这些

观点

显然与我不相容

,我认为这是一个问题,因为

你是否正在研究

‘正在研究

为什么人们很难

遵守隔离限制,或者为什么

社交媒体如此令人上瘾

,甚至为什么有些人 可能会认为

2020 年的选举是人为操纵的

行为,更具体地说,

人的决策

是你工作的核心现在不要误会我的意思

,这些不同的方法中的每一种

都带来了令人难以置信的见解和

令人难以置信的发现

,如果没有他们的专业化,这是不可能

我只是觉得奇怪的是,我们不

谈论他们相互矛盾的事实

赫伯特·金塔斯这位经济学家出身的

行为科学家

确实以雄辩的方式表达了我的观点,

他说不

连贯性现在是未来进展的障碍,

现在我们是如何得到的 在这里,我们总是

有这种脱节的方法来

理解人类行为

我不这么认为,我将使用

亚当史密斯作为案例研究,因为他是

一个根深蒂固的人,因此

被定义为一个明确定义的典范

今天的领域是

经济学,

但我认为他是那种直接

研究人类行为的人,

他现在因两部

主要作品而闻名 道德情感理论

,然后是今天的国家财富,

这些可能被描述为两个

独立的努力,第一个是

心理学

,第二个是经济学,但

我认为史密斯成功的一个秘诀是

今天更难复制,那

就是艺术之间的这些区别

心理学和经济学之间的科学

对他来说并不明显,他的

项目不是弥合

跨学科鸿沟,

而是他正在

对人们如何

做出决定

以及这些决定如何影响他们的

人际关系

进行直接评估,以了解我们如何 从

这种思维方式对

人类行为的统一理解

到我们现在更加困惑的思维方式,

我们必须稍微回顾一下

最近的行为经济学历史,

这门学科是在一位名叫丹尼尔康曼的以色列心理学家的领导下开始的,

他通过一系列

实验发现,我们 所有人都做出了错误的选择,

这会破坏

嵌入在经济学、政治

学和其他学科中的基本假设是,

人们一直在最大限度地提高自己的幸福感

句话

这就是我要说的我要告诉

你,2002 年康曼获得了

诺贝尔经济学奖,

然后丹尼尔康曼一生中从未上过

经济学课程

,最后让我们

感到惊讶的不是他能够

影响

这个领域尽管他相对幼稚,

但从那时起我们都重新开始

工作,好像这没什么

大不了的,

他的见解已经形成了行为

经济学作为经济学的一个子

领域,作为一

门学科作为一门学科 整体

他们在

行为科学领域之外也有影响力,将他

称为偏见和启发式的见解

应用于一大堆不同的 图片

偏见和启发式方法基本上

是我们制作这些

认知类型作弊的捷径,这些作弊可以回答

简单的问题,而不是我们面临的困难问题

,即使这些简单的问题

并不能完全

得到我们正在寻找的答案

人类麦吉尔我们’ 正在

努力尝试拓宽我们理解人类行为的方式

一个这样的例子是扩大经济学

一个学生

团体试图扩大他们

部门

对所学内容的概念 他们

试图将生态学

方法和行为学方法结合起来以尝试和

现代化 这些仍然

支持大部分传统

学科的支柱

我认为,如果亚当·史密斯今天还活着

他与

丹尼尔·康曼这样的人谈论的话题

比与

我们这个时代的许多主要传统经济学家谈论的话题要多得多。

史密斯的心理学结论推动了

他的经济问题,他甚至预言

了我们今天认为的

行为经济学前沿

的自我我 兴趣和

他理解它的方式

他结合了这些观念,即

物质上的成功

和消费是我们

期望给我们带来

幸福的东西

实际上最大化我们现在的幸福

,就像我可能浪漫化史密斯

和他的同时代人一样,

我们不能回到研究他们的方式

,即使我们可以,它

也不能解决

我今天提出的问题,我们生活

在一个

前所未有的信息获取时代

,它导致了

人类历史上无与伦比的发现我们

在不到一年的时间内将一种秘密疫苗推向市场的事实让

我感到震惊,没有这种情况就不可能发生

现代科学的超专业化特征的

问题是,当涉及到人类

行为时,

事情并不是那么顺利,

我们可能确切地知道应该由谁来

设计

隐蔽疫苗的每个组成部分,

但在

制定如何说服人们接受它的计划时,

事情还不太清楚,

因为这涉及到人类行为,所以

突然之间,我们陷入瘫痪

,在子之间出现任意障碍

-学科和人类行为

,它们阻止了必要的

对话,这些对话将团结该领域

提供解决这些重大问题所需的清晰度

我在蒙特利尔的一家研究公司工作,该公司

试图将行为

科学

应用于各种问题 为了公共

利益,我们与医疗保健

金融教育和公共政策以及

其他行业的人们合作,尝试将

一些决策专业知识和

一些关于

该领域真正前沿的知识

用于他们所做的事情,因为每个人 他们中的一些人正在

处理人类决策和人类

行为

,即使他们认识到他们

不一定

有语言来应对它,并且 我

认为

这使我们的工作变得比以前更难,这也

使他们的工作变得

困难,因为

他们没有统一的方式

将他们的见解与

正在研究不同语言的类似问题的其他学科中正在发生的事情联系起来

我认为 这是学术领域杂乱无章的结果,

我们拥有连接

这些不同学科的工具,但

我们无法使用它们但

我坚信人类决策

是人文科学的基础,它几乎就像

社会科学

或治理的形而上学,如果 这并不

意味着这些不同的专家中的每一个

都需要突然成为决策专家,

而是我们需要达到一个点,即

有共同的语言,有共同的

沟通

,这些障碍之间出现了重叠

启蒙以来研究相似

问题的不同方式 他

分散的

孤立的努力,

人们在不同的方向前进,

不一定知道

在其他潜在相关领域发生了什么

我们在我们的

民主国家

以及社交媒体上看到类似的情况,当人们谈论

回声室时,他们指的是这些

重组的社会

已经开始

组织我们获取信息的方式的网络

以及那里正在发生的事情

是,我们受到

关于世界如何

运作的共同假设的限制,以及负责

重组

我们彼此互动的这个新领域的人

有 这样做的方式

是避免反对

意见

,无论您是在撰写

仅与您的特定研究领域相关的主题的文学评论,

还是在 Facebook 上使用

已经与 99 个内容一致的提要,都是一样的 你

相信这

不是你自己的过错,你被限制

在有限的知识范围内,

无法接受 他有点不知道,

如果你有能力与不同意你的人进行

一些批判性思维

,我

坚信我们的大脑可以处理

现代性

它只需要以

正确的方式呈现

我们拥有这些无与伦比的信息

处理机器

并且有 也是

在物理学中进行这项工作的先例,

我们已经从牛顿理性

有序范式转变为

伦理学

中的相对论和

量子理论为特征的范式 很好,

这些大而广泛的概念只提供了一

点点洞察力,

它们为那些可能对该领域不太了解的人提供了一些建议,

使他们能够更容易

地访问复杂的

前沿 通过

以一种有意义的方式组织所有不同的专业,

这就是我们需要的领域 人类行为

我们没有范式

,如果我们能

以类似的方式组织我们的知识,我认为我们可以

在解决一些困扰我们的问题方面取得长足进步,

这种缺失的范式

对我们的政治社会具有深远的影响,

我们对自己有这些理想化的概念

当我们

想到做人是什么时,我们

就已经脱离了

做人的日常经验

等于我们最大化我们的福祉

我们是自主的道德

责任你说出它他们

完全脱离了

在人行道上行走的不公正的日常经历,

甚至只是认识到我们都

来自不同的背景并且

都有 不同的能力

,甚至我们并不总是为

自己的最佳

利益做出决定 纠结

于这些关于我们是谁的核心信念,

没有一个框架来处理

它,我们缺乏这个

框架 在一个复杂的

活动

中,思考

人类的意义并

在更深层次上参与其中

如果我们设计的系统能够满足我们的认知偏好,那么决策作为一门基础学科

我认为我们可以为我们面临的问题创造奇迹,

无论您是在努力

应对不断变化的人口统计和社会

现实,

还是理解

为原因提供的复杂科学解释 你看不到你的朋友

,甚至只是认识到人们是

复杂且难以预测的,

我看不到 ow 外部世界

可以比人类的思想复杂得多

我们非常了解外面的世界

如果我们想改进它

我们必须先更好地了解自己

谢谢