Whats invisible More than you think John Lloyd

Translator: tom carter
Reviewer: Bedirhan Cinar

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[John Lloyd’s Inventory of the Invisible]

[Adapted from a TEDTalk
given by John Lloyd in 2009]

June Cohen: Our next speaker
has spent his whole career

eliciting that sense of wonder.

Please welcome John Lloyd.

(Applause)

[Hall of Mirrors]

The question is, “What is invisible?”

There’s more of it
than you think, actually.

Everything, I would say –
everything that matters –

Except every thing, and except matter.

We can see matter

but we can’t see what’s the matter.

We can see the stars and the planets
but we can’t see what holds them apart,

or what draws them together.

With matter as with people,
we see only the skin of things,

we can’t see into the engine room,
we can’t see what makes people tick,

at least not without difficulty,

and the closer we look at anything,
the more it disappears.

In fact, if you look
really closely at stuff,

if you look at the basic
substructure of matter,

there isn’t anything there.

Electrons disappear in a kind of fuzz,
and there is only energy.

One of the interesting things
about invisibility is,

the things that we can’s see,
we also can’t understand.

Gravity is one thing that we can’t see,
and which we don’t understand.

It’s the least understood
of all the four fundamental forces,

and the weakest, and nobody really
knows what it is or why it’s there.

For what it’s worth, Sir Isaac Newton,
the greatest scientist who ever lived,

he thought Jesus came
to Earth specifically

to operate the levers of gravity.

That’s what he thought he was there for.

So, bright guy, could be wrong
on that one, I don’t know.

(Laughter)

Consciousness. I see all your faces;
I’ve no idea what any of you are thinking.

Isn’t that amazing?

Isn’t it incredible that we can’t read
each other’s minds,

when we can touch each other,
taste each other,

perhaps, if we get close enough,
but we can’t read each other’s minds.

I find that quite astonishing.

In the Sufi faith,
this great Middle Eastern religion

which some claim
is the root of all religions,

Sufi masters are
all telepaths, so they say,

but their main exercise of telepathy

is to send out powerful signals
to the rest of us that it doesn’t exist.

So that’s why we don’t think it exists;
the Sufi masters working on us.

In the question of consciousness
and artificial intelligence,

artificial intelligence has really,
like the study of consciousness,

gotten nowhere, we have no idea
how consciousness works.

Not only have they not created
artificial intelligence,

they haven’t yet created
artificial stupidity.

(Laughter)

The laws of physics: invisible,
eternal, omnipresent, all powerful.

Remind you of anyone?

Interesting.

I’m, as you can guess,
not a materialist, I’m an immaterialist.

And I’ve found a very useful
new word – ignostic.

Okay? I’m an ignostic.

[God?]

I refuse to be drawn on the question
on whether God exists

until somebody properly defines the terms.

Another thing we can’t see
is the human genome.

And this is increasingly peculiar,
because about 20 years ago

when they started delving into the genome,
they thought it would probably contain

around 100 thousand genes.

Every year since,
it’s been revised downwards.

We now think there are likely
to be just over 20 thousand genes

in the human genome.

This is extraordinary,
because rice – get this –

rice is known to have 38 thousand genes.

Potatoes have 48 chromosomes,
two more than people,

and the same as a gorilla.

(Laughter)

You can’t see these things,
but they are very strange.

The stars by day, I always
think that’s fascinating.

The universe disappears.

The more light there is,
the less you can see.

Time. Nobody can see time.

I don’t know if you know this.

There’s a big movement in modern physics

to decide that time doesn’t really exist,

because it’s too inconvenient
for the figures.

It’s much easier if it’s not really there.

You can’t see the future, obviously,

and you can’t see the past,
except in your memory.

One of the interesting
things about the past

is you particularly can’t see –

my son asked me this the other day,

“Dad, can you remember
what I was like when I was two?

And I said, “Yes.” He said, “Why can’t I?”

Isn’t that extraordinary?

You cannot remember what happened to you
earlier than the age of two or three.

Which is great news for psychoanalysts,
because otherwise they’d be out of a job.

Because that’s where all the stuff happens

(Laughter)

that makes you who you are.

Another thing you can’t see
is the grid on which we hang.

This is fascinating.

You probably know, some of you,
that cells are continually renewed.

Skin flakes off, hairs grow,
nails, that kind of stuff –

but every cell in your body
is replaced at some point.

Taste buds, every ten days or so.

Livers and internal organs
take a bit longer.

Spine takes several years.

But at the end of seven years,
not one cell in your body

remains from what was there
seven years ago.

The question is:
who then are we? What are we?

What is this thing that we hang on?

That is actually us?

Atoms, can’t see them. Nobody ever will.

They’re smaller
than the wavelength of light.

Gas, can’t see that.

Interesting, somebody
mentioned 1600 recently.

Gas was invented in 1600
by a Dutch chemist called van Helmont.

It’s said to be the most successful ever
invention of a word by a known individual.

Quite good. He also invented a word
called “blas,” meaning astral radiation.

Didn’t catch on, unfortunately.

(Laughter)

But well done, him.

Light – you can’t see light.

When it’s dark, in a vacuum,

if a person shines a beam of light

straight across your eyes,
you won’t see it.

Slightly technical, some physicists
will disagree with this.

But it’s odd that you can’t see
the beam of light,

you can only see what it hits.

Electricity, can’t see that.

Don’t let anyone tell you
they understand electricity, they don’t.

Nobody knows what it is.

(Laughter)

You probably think the electrons
in an electric wire move instantaneously

down a wire, don’t you,
at the speed of light,

when you turn the light on, they don’t.

Electrons bumble down the wire,

about the speed of spreading
honey, they say.

Galaxies – hundred billion of them,

estimated in the universe.
Hundred billion.

How many can we see?

Five. Five, out of a hundred billion
galaxies, with the naked eye.

And one of them is quite difficult to see,
unless you’ve got very good eyesight.

Radio waves. There’s another thing.

Heinrich Hertz, when he discovered
radio waves, in 1887,

he called them radio waves
because they radiated.

Somebody said to him,
“What’s the point of these, Heinrich?

What’s the point of these radio waves
that you’ve found?”

And he said, “Well, I’ve no idea,

but I guess somebody will find
a use for them someday.

The biggest thing that’s invisible
to us is what we don’t know.

It is incredible how little we know.

Thomas Edison once said,

“We don’t know one percent
of one millionth about anything.”

And I’ve come to the conclusion –

because you ask this other question:
“What’s another thing we can’t see?”

The point, most of us. What’s the point?

The point – what I’ve got it down to

is there are only two questions
really worth asking.

“Why are we here?”,

and “What should
we do about it while we are?”

To help you, I’ve got two things to leave
you with, from two great philosophers,

perhaps two of the greatest philosopher
thinkers of the 20th century.

One a mathematician and engineer,
and the other a poet.

The first is Ludwig Wittgenstein,

who said, “I don’t know why we are here,

but I am pretty sure it’s not
in order to enjoy ourselves.”

(Laughter)

He was a cheerful bastard, wasn’t he?

(Laughter)

And secondly, and lastly,
W.H. Auden, one of my favorite poets,

who said, “We are here
on Earth to help others.

What the others
are here for, I’ve no idea.”

(Laughter)

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译者:tom carter
审稿人:Bedirhan Cinar

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[Ted N' Ed’s Carnival]

[John Lloyd’s Inventory of the Invisible]

[改编
自 John Lloyd 在 2009 年发表的 TEDTalk]

June Cohen:我们的下一位演讲者
已经度过了他的整个职业生涯

引出那种奇妙的感觉。

请欢迎约翰·劳埃德。

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【镜厅

】问题是“什么是看不见的?”

实际上,它
比你想象的要多。

一切,我会说——
一切重要的——

除了一切,除了物质。

我们可以看到物质,

但我们看不到物质是什么。

我们可以看到星星和行星,
但我们看不到是什么将它们分开,

或者是什么将它们拉在一起。

物质和人一样,
我们只看到事物的表皮,

我们看不到机舱,
我们看不到是什么让人们打勾,

至少不是没有困难,

而且我们越靠近任何东西
,就越 它消失了。

事实上,如果你
仔细观察物质,

如果你观察物质的基本
子结构,

那里什么都没有。

电子以一种绒毛的形式消失
,只有能量。

关于隐形的有趣的事情之一

,我们可以看到的东西,
我们也无法理解。

重力是我们看不到
,也无法理解的一件事。


是所有四种基本力量

中最不为人所知的,也是最弱的,没有人真正
知道它是什么或为什么存在。

对于它的价值,艾萨克·牛顿爵士
,有史以来最伟大的科学家,

他认为耶稣
来到地球是专门

为了操纵重力杠杆。

这就是他认为他在那里的原因。

所以,聪明的家伙,可能是错
的,我不知道。

(笑声)

意识。 我看到你所有的脸;
我不知道你们中的任何人在想什么。

这不是很神奇吗?

我们不能读懂对方的心思,这不是很不可思议吗

当我们可以互相触摸,互相
品尝对方,

也许,如果我们靠得足够近,
但我们无法读懂对方的心思。

我觉得这很惊人。

在苏菲信仰中,
这个伟大的中东宗教

,有人声称它
是所有宗教的根源,

苏菲大师
都是心灵感应者,所以他们说,

但他们主要的心灵感应练习

是向我们其他人发出强大的信号
,表明它不会 不存在。

所以这就是我们认为它不存在的原因;
为我们工作的苏菲大师。

在意识和人工智能的问题上

人工智能真的
就像意识的研究一样,

一无所获,我们不
知道意识是如何工作的。

他们不仅没有创造出
人工智能,

而且还没有创造出
人为的愚蠢。

(笑声

) 物理定律:无形、
永恒、无所不在、无所不能。

让你想起任何人?

有趣的。

你可以猜到
,我不是唯物主义者,我是非物质主义者。

我发现了一个非常有用的
新词——不可知论。

好的? 我是一个不可知论者。

[上帝?]

有人正确定义这些术语之前,我拒绝接受关于上帝是否存在的问题。

我们看不到的另一件事
是人类基因组。

这越来越奇怪,
因为大约 20 年前,

当他们开始研究基因组时,
他们认为它可能包含

大约 10 万个基因。

从那以后,
每年都会向下修订。

我们现在认为人类基因组中
可能有超过 2 万个

基因。

这是非同寻常的,
因为大米 - 得到这个 -

大米已知有 38000 个基因。

土豆有48条染色体,
比人多两条,

和大猩猩一样。

(笑声)

你看不到这些东西,
但它们很奇怪。

白天的星星,我总
觉得那很迷人。

宇宙消失了。

光线越多
,你能看到的就越少。

时间。 没有人能看到时间。

我不知道你是否知道这一点。

现代物理学有一个很大的运动

来决定时间实际上并不存在,

因为它对数字来说太不方便
了。

如果它不是真的存在,那就容易多了。

很明显,你看不到未来,

也看不到过去,
除了在你的记忆中。 过去的

一个有趣的
事情

是你特别看不到 -

我儿子前几天问我,

“爸爸,你还记得
我两岁时的样子吗?

我说,“是的。 说:“为什么我不能?”

这不是很特别吗?

你不记得
在两三岁之前发生了什么。

这对精神分析师来说是个好消息,
否则他们就会失业。

因为那是所有事情发生的地方

(笑声)

让你成为你自己。

另一件你看不到的东西
是我们挂在上面的网格。

这很有趣。

你们中的一些人可能知道,
细胞在不断更新。

皮肤剥落,毛发生长,
指甲,诸如此类——

但你体内的每一个细胞都会
在某个时候被替换。

味蕾,每十天左右一次。

肝脏和内脏
需要更长的时间。

脊椎需要几年时间。

但是在七年结束时
,你的身体里没有一个细胞是

七年前的

。问题是:
那我们是谁?我们是什么?什么?

这是我们坚持的东西吗?

那真的是我们吗?

原子,看不到它们。 没有人会。

它们
小于光的波长。

气,看不出来。

有意思,
最近有人提到1600。

1600
年,荷兰化学家 van Helmont 发明了气体。

据说这
是已知个人有史以来最成功的单词发明。

相当不错。 他还发明了一个
叫做“blas”的词,意思是星光辐射。

不幸的是,没有赶上。

(笑声)

但干得好,他。

光——你看不到光。

在黑暗中,在真空中,

如果有人将一束光

直射你的眼睛,
你将看不到它。

有点技术性,一些物理学家
会不同意这一点。

但奇怪的是你看
不到光束,

你只能看到它击中的东西。

电,看不出来。

不要让任何人告诉你
他们懂电,他们不懂。

没有人知道它是什么。

(笑声)

你可能认为
电线中的电子会瞬间

沿着电线移动,不是吗,
以光速,

当你打开灯时,它们不会。 他们说

,电子在电线上的碰撞

速度与传播蜂蜜的速度差不多

星系——

在宇宙中估计有数千亿个。
千亿。

我们能看到多少?

五。 五,千亿
星系,肉眼可见。

其中一个很难看到,
除非你有很好的视力。

无线电波。 还有一件事。

海因里希·赫兹(Heinrich Hertz)
在 1887 年发现无线电波时,

称它们为无线电波,
因为它们会辐射。

有人问他:
“这些有什么意义,海因里希?你发现

的这些无线电波
有什么意义?”

他说:“嗯,我不知道,

但我想
有一天会有人发现它们的用处。我们

看不见的最重要的事情
就是我们不知道。

令人难以置信的是,我们知道的如此之少。

托马斯·爱迪生 曾经说过,

“我们
对任何事情都一无所知。”

我得出了结论——

因为你问了另一个问题:
“还有什么是我们看不到的?

”重点,最 我们。重点是什么

?重点——我的意思

是只有两个问题
真正值得问:

“我们为什么在这里?”,

以及“
我们在此期间应该怎么做?”

为了帮助你,我有两件事要留给
你,来自两位伟大的哲学家,

也许是 20 世纪最伟大的两位哲学家
思想家。

一位是数学家和工程师
,另一位是诗人。

第一位是路德维希·维特根斯坦,

谁说,“我不知道我们为什么在这里,

但我很确定这
不是为了享受我们自己。”

(笑声)

他是个开朗的混蛋,不是吗?

(笑声

)其次, 最后,
W.H. 奥登,我最喜欢的诗人之一,

他说:“我们
在地球上是为了帮助别人。

其他人
来这里是为了什么,我不知道。”

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