Debbie Lovich 3 tips for leaders to get the future of work right TED

Transcriber:

When I moved from New York
to Boston in 1989,

I completely lost my sense of direction.

It wasn’t me, though,

it was those winding,
nonsensical Boston roads.

Urban legend has it that in Boston,

they paved over cow paths
to form the very roads we have today.

Now, if you’re an urban planner
designing a city from scratch,

you would not base it
on how the cows wandered.

And if you think about it,

that’s exactly what we’ve done with work.

Hundreds of years ago,
in the industrial revolution,

people left their homes
to perform repetitive tasks

in the fixed time and place
of the factory floor.

And when knowledge workers
entered the scene,

we kept the same model,

this time with fixed job descriptions
and fields of cubicles from nine to five.

Even globalization and technology
did little to change the dynamic.

Fixed time, place and job descriptions
are the cow paths of work.

And like cow paths for roads,
it just doesn’t make any sense.

I’ve been challenging and changing
how companies work for the past 15 years,

starting with my own company,
Boston Consulting Group,

and then with dozens of other
Fortune 500 organizations.

And I have to tell you
something amazing happened to work

during the tragedy of COVID-19,

especially those first weeks and months.

If you remember,

all the low-value work disappeared.

It didn’t matter
what your job technically was.

People just worked together
across silos and even companies

to get stuff done wherever,
whenever, however it was needed.

Leaders simply had to trust their people.

They didn’t have time
for endless steering committees

or death by PowerPoint.

We just needed to trust people to deliver,

and they did.

So I’m on a mission.

A mission to bottle
these great work practices

and not go back to the old ways.

And yes, of course, I want
to get rid of endless back-to-back zooms

and loneliness and days
that blend into evenings.

But we have to make sure we don’t go back

to the rigid, structured, bureaucratic,

sluggish ways that sucked
the joy out of work.

And I have to tell you,

the future of work
is not going to be created

with top-down, opinion-driven edicts

from senior leaders
whose day-to-day realities

don’t match those of us dual-career,
time-pressed and income-pressed people.

Of course, senior leaders want to go back.

That worked for them.

But they have to recognize
that for 18 months now,

their people experienced unprecedented
agency, control, flexibility,

trust and accountability.

And people don’t want to go back.

And it’s this difference in perspective
from senior leaders and their people

that’s one of the main reasons
driving so much backlash

to all these return-to-office
announcements over the past months,

with employees venting on social media

and quitting in what’s being called
the “great resignation.”

And employees, I don’t blame you.

But before you take
to social media and walk,

try talking to your leaders,

tell them what you loved
about the past 18 months.

Tell them what you want to keep.

They might be more receptive
than you think.

And leaders, let me share three tips –

rather three must-do’s –
to get the future of work right.

Number one, trust your people.

Millions of workers and employees
have proved their trustworthiness

since March 2020.

But even with that,
so many leaders want to go backwards.

As part of the work I do,
I’ve spoken with hundreds of leaders

over the past 18 months,

and I get some really crazy questions.

One is, “Well, Debbie, how can I tell
if my workers are productive

when they’re working from home?”

And I can’t help but say,

“Well, how do you know
they were productive

when they were in the office?”

Just because you could see someone,
doesn’t mean they’re productive.

Or I have to love this, “You know,
when it’s safe to go back to the office,

we’re going to let people
work from home two days a week,

as long as it’s not a Monday or Friday

because we don’t trust them
not to slack off and take long weekends.”

What does that say
about the culture of trust?

Will there be abusers?
Of course, but they’ll be a tiny few.

So why make rules for the vast majority

who’ve earned your trust every day
for the past 18 months?

A trusting culture will not only attract,
retain and motivate your people,

it’ll also save you
a lot of time enforcing rules.

So that’s number one.

Trust your people.

Number two, be data-driven.

We all have our opinions
about how work should be done,

and the more senior we are,
the more we’re convinced

that our opinions are not just opinion,
but they’re fact, they’re truth.

But one thing COVID’s taught us
is that people are so different.

I have genetically identical
17-year-old twin boys, Abraham and Boaz,

and I emphasize the point
“genetically identical,”

because these two guys
could not be more different.

Abraham really struggled
when school went online.

He did everything he could

to engineer outdoor,
socially distant get-togethers

because you can’t call them
playdates when the boys are 17.

(Laughter)

But his brother, Boaz –
Bo was loving life!

“Ma, this is fantastic!

I don’t ever have to leave my bed!”

My boys couldn’t be more different,
and so are your workers,

so we must get data.

How? Well, try this.

Get some of your best people
together and ask them,

“What did you love about
these last 18 months?

What did you hate?

If we were to give you a magic wand

and you could create
the perfect work environment for you,

what would your days,
weeks and months look like?”

And then experiment. Yes. Experiment.

So many people are saying COVID’s been
the biggest work experiment ever.

I beg to differ.

I’m not a scientist, but I know

that prospective experiments
have hypotheses, control groups,

data collection,
learning loops and revisions.

We didn’t do that.

And so now’s the time to experiment.

And we don’t have to wait
until it’s safe to go back to the office.

We could do it now.

Take two teams that do similar work,

let one flex and work whenever
and however they need,

and another, give them fixed times.

You want them online
and you want them working.

And then measure.

Survey them every week.

Everyone says people are oversurveyed.

People are not oversurveyed
when it comes to this topic.

They want to have their opinions heard.

So ask them, “How’s it going?
Are you delivering value?

Are you able to collaborate well?
How’s your work-life balance?

What do you love? What do you hate?”

And take those learning
and spread them around.

This is new for all of us.

We’re not going to get it right

the first, second,
third or even fourth time.

But together with conversation
and data, and experiments,

we’re going to learn our way
to a better future of work.

So that’s number two.

Number one, trust your people.

Number two, be data-driven.

Here’s number three.

Think beyond the schedule.

Guess what? The future of work

is not two days
that you get to work from home.

This is our chance right now

to reimagine, reduce, replace
or even eliminate things

like long commutes,

endless meetings
with too many people there,

recurring meetings that never go away,

synchronous work, silos,
command-and-control leaders,

administrivia –

that’s my word for the low-value stuff
that clogs our calendars.

In other words, we could stop
contorting our lives around work,

but we could actually reshape work
to better fit our lives.

So that’s number three.

Think beyond the schedule.

And guess what, a lot of companies
are getting it right.

Take Dropbox, for example.

Before COVID, Dropbox only had
three percent of their workers

working from home.

They’re now moving forward
with a remote-first model

and trying to push
as much asynchronous work as possible.

And to help collaboration
with their model,

they’re setting core collaboration hours
that very slightly by time zone,

so they have four hours a day

when you know everyone is online
in case you need to collaborate.

One of my favorite examples
is the Mr. Cooper Group.

And Mr. Cooper Group’s been described
as a mortgage giant no one’s heard of.

A lot of their workers,
a large percentage,

are call center operators.

And like many, in the first days of COVID,

they got them all home
safely and successfully.

And guess what?

They were more productive,
and they were happier.

But even with that data,
many on the leadership team

wanted them back in the office
as soon as it was safe to do so.

They just couldn’t imagine
call center work

being done from home permanently.

Well, that’s where Kelly Ann Doherty,

their amazing Chief
People Officer comes in.

When Kelly Ann and her team
presented their recommendation

for a home-centric working model,

she got a ton of questions.

“Well, Kelly Ann, what about
onboarding and training?”

She said, “Of course, we’re going
to get people together for that.

Home-centric doesn’t
mean we’re never together.”

“Well, what about day-to-day
coaching and mentoring?”

“We’re experimenting with software

that allows managers
to do that even better.”

“Well, what about culture?
Communication? What about –”

And she just stopped them

It was a moment, and she said,

“I know you all
want to go back to your offices.

So do I, but we have to take a minute

to walk in the shoes
of our call center operators.

They are loving the flexibility.

They’re saving real money
by not commuting,

and we know this is
a high-turnover population.

Imagine if one of our competitors
is more flexible than us.

How many people are we going to lose?”

And with that, Kelly Ann and her team
had the leadership team on board.

They’re moving forward
with a home-centric model,

and they’re investing
in upskilling all of their managers

to be able to coach,
mentor and manage their teams remotely.

And now they’re taking
it one step further.

They’re tapping into
more flexible talent pools,

like military spouses,

who need a ton of flexibility
when their spouses are deployed.

In other words, Kelly Ann
and the Mr. Cooper Group

are urban planners of the future of work.

They’re trusting their people.

They’re using data.

They’re thinking beyond the schedule

to not go back to the old cow paths
of call center work.

They’re making work better
for them, for the company,

the customers and their people.

This is our moment, right now,

to together with our people and our teams

design a future of work
that’s more engaging,

more productive and more humane.

Thank you.

(Applause)

抄写员:

当我
1989 年从纽约搬到波士顿时,

我完全失去了方向感。

然而,这不是我,

而是那些蜿蜒、
荒谬的波士顿道路。

都市传说中,在波士顿,

他们在牛
道上铺设了我们今天所拥有的道路。

现在,如果你是一名城市规划师
,从头开始设计一座城市,

你就不会
以奶牛的漫游方式为基础。

如果你仔细想想,

这正是我们所做的工作。

数百年前,
在工业革命时期,

人们离开家,在工厂车间

固定的时间和地点进行重复性的工作

当知识工作者
进入现场时,

我们保持相同的模式,

这次是固定的工作描述
和从九到五的隔间区域。

即使是全球化和技术
也几乎没有改变这种动态。

固定的时间、地点和职位描述
是工作的母牛路径。

就像道路的牛道一样,
它没有任何意义。

在过去的 15 年里,我一直在挑战和改变公司的工作方式,

从我自己的公司
波士顿咨询集团开始,

然后是其他数十家
财富 500 强组织。

我必须告诉你
,在 COVID-19 悲剧期间发生了一些令人惊奇的事情

尤其是最初的几周和几个月。

如果你还记得的话,

所有低价值的工作都消失了。


技术上讲,你的工作是什么并不重要。

人们只是在
各个孤岛甚至公司之间一起工作

,以便随时随地完成工作
,无论需要什么。

领导者只需要信任他们的人民。

他们没有时间
参加无休止的指导委员会

或 PowerPoint 的死亡。

我们只需要相信人们会交付

,他们做到了。

所以我在执行任务。


这些伟大的工作实践装瓶

而不是回到旧的方式的使命。

是的,当然,我
想摆脱无休止的背靠背变焦

和孤独以及
融入夜晚的日子。

但我们必须确保我们不会

回到那种从工作中吸走乐趣的僵化、结构化、官僚、

迟缓的方式

我必须告诉你,

工作的未来
不会由高层领导

的自上而下、舆论驱动的法令创造,

他们的日常现实

与我们这些双重职业、
时间紧迫的人不符 和收入压力大的人。

当然,高层领导想回去。

这对他们有用。

但他们必须认识
到,18 个月以来,

他们的员工经历了前所未有的
代理、控制、灵活性、

信任和问责制。

人们不想回去。

正是
高级领导人及其员工的这种观点差异,是过去几个月

对所有这些重返办公室的
公告产生如此强烈反对的主要原因之一

,员工在社交媒体上发泄

并退出所谓
的“ 伟大的辞职。”

还有员工,我不怪你。

但在你
上社交媒体和走路之前,

试着和你的领导谈谈,

告诉他们你
在过去 18 个月里喜欢什么。

告诉他们你想保留什么。

他们可能
比你想象的更容易接受。

领导者们,让我分享三个技巧——

而不是三个必须做的事情——
以正确地实现工作的未来。

第一,相信你的人。 自 2020 年 3 月以来,

数以百万计的工人和员工
已经证明了他们的可信赖性

但即便
如此,很多领导者还是想倒退。

作为我工作的一部分,在

过去的 18 个月里,

我与数百位领导人进行了交谈,我收到了一些非常疯狂的问题。

一个是,“嗯,黛比,我怎么
知道我的

员工在家工作时是否有生产力?”

我忍不住说,

“嗯,你怎么知道

他们在办公室的时候效率很高?”

仅仅因为你可以看到某人,
并不意味着他们有生产力。

或者我必须喜欢这个,“你知道,
当可以安全地回到办公室时,

我们将让人们
每周两天在家工作,

只要不是周一或周五,

因为我们不 相信他们
不会懈怠并度过漫长的周末。”


对信任文化有什么影响?

会有施虐者吗?
当然,但他们将是极少数。

那么,为什么要

为过去 18 个月每天赢得您信任的绝大多数人制定规则呢?

信任的文化不仅会吸引、
留住和激励您的员工,

还会为您
节省大量执行规则的时间。

所以这是第一名。

相信你的人。

第二,数据驱动。

对于
应该如何完成工作,我们都有自己的看法,

而且我们越资深,
我们就越

相信我们的意见不仅仅是意见,
而是事实,它们是真理。

但 COVID 教会我们的一件事
是,人们是如此不同。

我有基因相同的
17 岁双胞胎男孩,亚伯拉罕和波阿斯

,我强调
“基因相同”

这一点,因为这两个
家伙完全不同。

当学校上线时,亚伯拉罕真的很挣扎。

竭尽全力设计户外、
远离社交的聚会,

因为
当男孩们 17 岁时,你不能称它们为玩耍约会。

(笑声)

但是他的兄弟,Boaz——
Bo 热爱生活!

“妈,这太棒了!

我永远不用离开我的床!”

我的孩子们与众不同,
你们的工人也是如此,

所以我们必须获取数据。

如何? 好吧,试试这个。

召集一些最优秀的人
一起问他们:

“在
过去的 18 个月

里,你喜欢什么?你讨厌什么?

如果我们给你一根魔杖

,你可以
为你创造完美的工作环境,

你会怎样? 几天、
几周和几个月的样子?”

然后进行实验。 是的。 实验。

很多人都说 COVID 是
有史以来最大的工作实验。

我不敢苟同。

我不是科学家,但我

知道前瞻性实验
有假设、对照组、

数据收集、
学习循环和修订。

我们没有那样做。

所以现在是试验的时候了。

而且我们不必
等到安全后再回到办公室。

我们现在可以做到。

拿两个做类似工作的团队来说,

让一个团队在他们需要的时候灵活地工作

,另一个团队给他们固定的时间。

您希望他们在线
并且希望他们工作。

然后测量。

每周对他们进行调查。

每个人都说人们被过度调查了。 当谈到这个

话题时,人们并没有被过度调查

他们希望听到他们的意见。

所以问他们,“进展如何?
你是否提供价值?

你是否能够很好地合作?
你的工作与生活平衡如何?

你喜欢什么?你讨厌什么?”

并把这些
知识传播出去。

这对我们所有人来说都是新的。

我们不会

在第一次、第二次、
第三次甚至第四次时做对。

但与对话
、数据和实验一起,

我们将学习
通往更美好未来工作的道路。

所以这是第二个。

第一,相信你的人。

第二,数据驱动。

这里是第三个。

超越时间表思考。

你猜怎么着? 工作的未来

不是你在家工作的两天。

这是我们

现在重新构想、减少、替换
甚至消除

诸如长途通勤、

与太多人在那里无休止的

会议、永远不会消失的重复会议、

同步工作、孤岛、
指挥和控制领导者、

行政管理等事情的机会——

这就是我
所说的堵塞我们日历的低价值东西。

换句话说,我们可以停止
围绕工作扭曲我们的生活,

但我们实际上可以重塑工作
以更好地适应我们的生活。

所以这是第三个。

超越时间表思考。

你猜怎么着,很多公司
都做对了。

以 Dropbox 为例。

在 COVID 之前,Dropbox 只有
3% 的员工

在家工作。

他们现在正在
推进远程优先模型,

并试图推动
尽可能多的异步工作。

为了帮助
与他们的模型进行协作,

他们将核心协作时间设置
为按时区略有不同,

因此

当您知道每个人都在线
时,他们每天有四个小时,以防您需要协作。

我最喜欢的例子之一
是 Mr. Cooper Group。

库珀集团先生被描述
为一个没有人听说过的抵押贷款巨头。

他们的很多员工
,很大一部分

是呼叫中心操作员。

和许多人一样,在 COVID 的最初几天,

他们安全、成功地将他们全部带回家

你猜怎么着?

他们更有生产力
,也更快乐。

但即使有了这些数据,
领导团队中的许多人也

希望
他们在安全的情况下尽快回到办公室。

他们只是无法想象
呼叫中心的工作

会永久在家中完成。

好吧,这就是

他们出色的首席
人事官 Kelly Ann Doherty 的用武之地。

当 Kelly Ann 和她的团队
提出他们

对以家庭为中心的工作模式的建议时,

她提出了很多问题。

“好吧,Kelly Ann,
入职和培训怎么样?”

她说:“当然,我们会
为此让人们聚在一起。以

家庭为中心并不
意味着我们永远不会在一起。”

“那么,日常的
指导和指导呢?”

“我们正在试验

可以让经理
们做得更好的软件。”

“嗯,文化呢?
沟通?那——

” 她只是阻止了

他们 过了一会儿,她说,

“我知道你们
都想回到自己的办公室。

我也是,但我们必须采取 像

我们的呼叫中心接线员一样走一分钟。

他们喜欢这种灵活性。

他们通过不通勤节省了真钱

而且我们知道这是
一个高流动率的人群。

想象一下,如果我们的竞争对手比我们的
竞争对手更灵活 “我们。

我们会失去多少人?”

有了这个,Kelly Ann 和她的团队
就有了领导团队。

他们正在推进
以家庭为中心的模式

,他们正在
投资提高所有经理的技能

,以便能够远程指导、
指导和管理他们的团队。

而现在他们
又更进一步了。

他们正在利用
更灵活的人才库,

比如军人配偶,

当他们的配偶被部署时,他们需要很大的灵活性。

换句话说,Kelly Ann
和 Mr. Cooper Group

是未来工作的城市规划者。

他们信任他们的人民。

他们正在使用数据。

他们正在考虑超越时间表

,不要回到
呼叫中心工作的老路。

他们正在
为自己、公司

、客户和他们的员工创造更好的工作。

这是我们现在的时刻

,与我们的员工和我们的团队一起

设计一个
更具吸引力、

更高效和更人性化的工作未来。

谢谢你。

(掌声)