Neurodiversity and Leadership

[Music]

most of us assume many roles in our

lives

i’m an engineer i was a corporate

executive for many years

now i’m a university management

professor but above all

i’m a dad and i am what some may call

an autism dad meaning one of my children

is on the autism spectrum

one survey of parents with children on

the spectrum found that 70 percent of us

worry about how our children will

achieve adult independence

and lead full lives and many parents

with children on the spectrum myself

included

value the uniqueness of our children and

see them as gifts to the world

a society more accepting of autism in

the workplace

could both address this concern for

adult independence

and empower our children to contribute

their gifts to the world

this is a challenge i’m going to ask you

to undertake

i’m also going to offer some help in

meeting that challenge

several years ago all of these roles of

my life converged in having a discussion

with a family member about his

difficulties at work

it occurred to me that this bright young

man was having trouble with his

supervisor

because his supervisor had no idea how

to manage someone on the autism spectrum

and it occurred to me this is part of

the why

this is why there is such a high

unemployment rate among people with

autism

unskilled supervisors have no confidence

in their ability to lead team members

with autism

so they simply avoid the uncomfortable

situation

they don’t hire people with autism

and i thought well this is something i

can fix i can make a contribution here

and i set out to do so my goal was to

build a workshop

that would help supervisors and managers

understand how to change their approach

so they could more effectively lead

team members with autism i was pursuing

a doctorate in management at the time

so i went to the university library to

learn everything that we knew

about effective leadership of employees

with autism

this didn’t take very long i found

nothing

zero this had not been researched

there’s been some progress since then

but nowhere near enough

well it would seem that my idea of a

workshop to help

supervisors learn to effectively lead

team members with autism

was dead in the water there’s no

research to base it on

but i can be pretty stubborn and what

does a good chief engineer do

when faced with a problem but there’s no

data

we guess well no we don’t guess we

develop an informed hypothesis and look

for ways to test that hypotheses

yeah we call that a scientific guess my

search for this informed hypothesis led

me

to the work of autism researcher

francesca hoppe

who argues that the autistic mind is

often characterized by deep specific

skills

like innovative thinking or attention to

detail in repetitive tasks

but that these deep specific skills are

often combined

with weak central coherence or

difficulty in getting the gist of a

situation

this is the key to connecting what we

know about the practice of management

to the challenges of effectively leading

team members with autism

i held robust discussions with my

graduate management students

about what techniques simply assume

that the employee gets the gist of the

situation

any approach with this assumption baked

into it

is likely to fail when applied to an

employee with autism

the supervisor will use a flawed

technique and when it doesn’t work

assume that the employee is flawed

rather than their management approach

i believe this is a big part of the why

why people with autism have such

difficulty

being successful at the workplace

based on this insight i developed my

workshop on how managers and supervisors

could use

common tools like delegation and

accountability

to more effectively lead team members

with autism

and then one of my students gave me an

amazing opportunity to test

the workshop she was the executive

director of via of the lehigh valley

an agency that works with people with

autism

she made her entire staff available to

test the workshop

the workshop passed the rigorous

scrutiny

of this experienced group of people

ultimately giving me the confidence

that i had made in connecting this

concept of francesca hoppe’s

to the challenge of effectively leading

team members with autism

this insight and workshop

is also the basis of the class and

leadership in neurodiversity

that i developed for my students at

temple university college of engineering

and it is the basis of the offer that i

will make to you

before we’re done here today

by some estimates 85 percent of people

with autism

are unemployed or underemployed despite

any value that they might bring to the

table

it doesn’t matter if they have earned a

college degree

it doesn’t matter if they’ve earned a

sought-after college degree

like computer science they are excluded

from our economic life

because they are almost hardwired to

think differently than most of us

they are excluded even though these

differences can be shown to be valuable

to employers let me put this in

perspective

this 85 percent unemployment rate is

equivalent

to three times the entire workforce of

the city of philadelphia

so from the top of the comcast tower to

every neighborhood hoagie shop

for every person with a job there’s

three sitting at home just in the u.s

not worldwide they’re denied

the independence and the dignity that

comes from employment

even though they’re willing and often

able to make a contribution

this is not only unfair to people with

autism

this is a profound waste of human

potential

but recall that i’m coming at this not

just as a dad

but from the perspective of

organizational leadership

so as organizational leaders why is this

our problem

why do we care look obviously as family

members as community members

as neighbors we care but as

organizational leaders

don’t we have a responsibility to

deliver results for shareholders

or pursue our social mission for the

non-profit people who fund us

or be good stewards of tuition money

entrusted to us

by students and their families

so as organizational leaders why is this

our problem

i ask you to consider the compelling

story of john elder robeson

if you ever get the opportunity to read

one of john’s books or better yet hear

him speak

i would recommend that you do so john is

a very talented engineer

who invented some amazing engineering

projects

like the first circuit capable of

digitizing a human voice

yet john left the engineering profession

because he was afraid that people would

discover

that he was not a real engineer

john dropped out of school in the ninth

grade john

is on the autism spectrum asperger’s or

an aspie as john calls it

john had difficulty making eye contact

reading social cues

everything that would make life very

difficult in the ninth grade

but john’s parents were faculty at a

local university

so even though he dropped out of school

he was able to sneak into the

engineering laboratories at night

where he taught himself electrical

engineering

that sink in for a second he taught

himself electrical engineering

and then went on to invent some pretty

impressive engineering projects

yet john left the engineering profession

because he never finished his formal

education

because he didn’t feel as though he fit

in

i run a program at temple university

college of engineering

that helps prepare technical

professionals to grow into leadership

roles

i make sure my students understand the

challenges and the opportunities

of leading people with autism i make

sure that my students hear the story of

john elder robeson

and then i posed the question to them if

you ran the engineering department

what would you have done to keep john

from leaving your company

just last semester one student said i

would have done whatever it took

and she was absolutely correct well what

about you

what would you do to keep john from

leaving your company if you worked there

i’ll tell you what i would do if i was

president of that company

i would have told all of you

neurotypical managers and employees

that if john leaves and maybe walks down

the street to the competition

because you didn’t find a way for him to

fit in

then you have a problem with me

you may be leaving the company also

a few minutes ago i posed the question

is organizational leaders why is this

our problem

story of john elder robeson demonstrates

it’s not our problem

it’s our opportunity it’s an opportunity

to make our organizations

and ourselves more successful by

empowering people with autism

to make their contribution to their

employers and to society as a whole

my first project as a chief engineer was

a very complex u.s navy project

that required among many other things a

computer simulation of a flying vehicle

now the individual that could do this

simulation was the first person that i

ever worked with with autism

although i didn’t really understand it

back then

let’s call him bill bill had many

characteristics that today

i might recognize as potentially being

autistic

he didn’t make eye contact he kept to

himself

he preferred to work late at night when

management wasn’t around to bother him

you know actually i did understand that

one and frankly i was a little jealous

one of the other engineers on my team

must have had some personal experience

with autism

because he insisted that he manage the

communication between bill and myself

rather than having me do it this is a

little out of the ordinary

and frankly i was very hesitant to do

this i was chief engineer

it was my responsibility to make sure

that everything was working in sync

but this normally quiet engineer dug his

heels in and insisted

that he manage this communication so i

agreed

now i watched these communications from

a distance

and i’m not sure exactly what this fella

did

but i believe that he knew from personal

experience

what francesca hoppe later proved

through research

that bill had deep specific skills

but needed more help than most in

understanding the gist of the situation

bill was very comfortable with these

conversations

bill did a great job bill made a

critical contribution to this project

a contribution i could have never made

personally

so i benefited enormously from a very

small modification to my leadership

approach

a modification that let bill find a way

to comfortably fit in

to make his contribution to the project

and to the company the first time i told

this story

a listener told me that i had treated

the person with autism differently

and that that was wrong i suspect she

was concerned that i was

othering bill i have to admit this was a

different perspective for me

now when someone criticizes my thinking

i i try to take it seriously

i internalize it i examine it i try to

determine the validity of the criticism

this usually takes five maybe 10 seconds

and then i can counter attack but

seriously

i did reflect on this constructive

criticism about the development of my

leadership style

and this was a watershed moment in the

development of my personal leadership

style

i was being told by people whom i

respected

that now that i was chief engineer my

job was to give orders and chew people

out i was really uncomfortable with this

i was completely dependent on my team

for my personal success

barking out orders and yelling at people

who knew more than i

did seemed very risky

eventually i figured out that what i had

to do wasn’t to boss people around

it was to find a way for everyone to

work together

i had to manage the interfaces between

both the subsystems

and the personalities of the project

this was more difficult than i thought

it would be for instance

one of my team members was very risk

averse

his inclination was to ask for so many

of the project resources

to minimize his subsystem risk that it

would have put the other subsystems at

risk

now i could have just told him i could

have ordered him to take the risk

i was the chief engineer but that would

have alienated him from the project

so instead i worked with him i worked

with him to find ways to minimize

the risk to his subsystem without

monopolizing the project resources

i worked with him so that he was

confident in taking the risk

that i needed him to take there was

another manager

who was very very concerned about the

political ramifications on him

personally

if the customer mandated testing

methodology were to fail

i had to find a way to give him

political cover to get him on board with

the project

and as i reflected on this i realized

that almost

everybody on this team had some barrier

that prevented them from fully

committing to this project

and i had to take an action to remove

each of these barriers

so as i reflected on these incidents

where my intervention was required

it occurred to me that the criticism i

had received

about treating the person with autism

differently

was an accurate criticism i did treat

him differently

and i treated the people without autism

differently

i treated everyone differently so that i

could remove the individual barriers

that kept each and every team member

from fully committing to the

project and as i thought about this

i realized that i had not been given a

team where everyone just naturally fit

in

i did not have the round peg for the

round hole i did not have the square peg

for the square hole you know what

i’ve never had that team in fact i don’t

think that team even exists

what i had to work with was a team of

real people

and real people can be like puzzle

pieces

everyone not just people with autism

having them have amazing abilities that

are combined with their own

individual idiosyncrasies and rough

edges

and if everyone cannot fit in and make

their own unique and valuable

contribution

the quality of the overall picture will

suffer

so the job of a leader is like building

a puzzle

find a way for everyone to fit in

and make their valuable and unique

contribution

to the quality of the overall picture

i said earlier that i was going to make

an offer

and issue a challenge this is a

university

there’s many people here engaged with

the training and education of the next

generation of leaders

i would argue that if the next

generation of leaders understands the

opportunity and the challenges of

effectively leading team members with

autism

this 85 percent unemployment rate will

evaporate

my students at temple university college

of engineering understand the challenge

and understand the opportunity please

contact me

i will make all of my teaching material

available to you

the teaching material that’s based on

the workshop that i built

based on francesca hoppe’s concept of

weak central coherence

combined with deep specific skills use

this material

make sure your students understand the

challenge

and the opportunity make sure that

they’re prepared for it that’s my offer

all in all the picture that is emerging

is that effective leadership of people

with autism

is simply effective leadership for

everyone

both my personal experience and research

at places like microsoft

indicates that when we get better at

leading people with autism

we get better at leading everyone

my challenge to everyone in a leadership

position

to everyone who aspires to a leadership

position

embrace your role as a puzzle builder

find a way for everyone to fit in

and make their unique and valuable

contribution

make your organizations and yourselves

more successful

and help change the world for people on

the autism spectrum

and for everyone else who doesn’t fit in

thank you

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我们中的大多数人在

生活中扮演着

许多角色 爸爸的意思是我的

一个孩子患有自闭症 一项针对自闭症父母的调查

发现,我们中有 70% 的人

担心我们的孩子将如何

实现成人独立

并过上充实的生活,许多

有自闭症孩子的父母自己也

包括

价值 我们孩子的独特性

并将他们视为给世界

的礼物 一个在工作场所更能接受自闭症的社会

既可以解决对成人独立性的关注,也可以

让我们的孩子

为世界贡献他们的礼物

这是我将要面临的挑战 请

你承担

我也将提供一些帮助

来应对

几年前的挑战

我生活中的所有这些角色都集中在

与一位家庭成员讨论他的

困难

我突然想到这个聪明的

年轻人与他的主管有麻烦,

因为他的主管不知道

如何管理自闭症谱系中的人

,我想到

这就是为什么会有这样一个

自闭症患者的高失业率

不熟练的主管对

他们领导自闭症团队成员的能力没有信心,

所以他们只是避免不舒服的

情况,

他们不雇用自闭症患者

,我认为这是我

可以解决的问题 我可以做

我的目标是

建立一个研讨会

,帮助主管和经理

了解如何改变他们的方法,

以便他们更有效地领导

患有自闭症的团队成员我当时正在

攻读管理学博士学位,

所以我 去大学图书馆

学习我们所知道的

关于有效领导自闭症员工的所有知识

这并没有花很长时间我什么也没找到

零 这还没有被研究

从那时起已经取得了一些进展,

但还远远不够

好,我关于

帮助

主管学习有效领导

自闭症团队成员的研讨会的想法似乎

已经死水了,没有

研究可以作为基础,

但是 我可能很固执

,一个优秀的首席工程师

在遇到问题时会做什么,但是没有

数据

我们猜得很好不,我们不认为我们

制定了一个有根据的假设并

寻找方法来检验这些

假设是的,我们称之为科学 猜想我

对这个有根据的假设的搜索使

找到了自闭症研究员

弗朗西斯卡·霍普的工作,

他认为自闭症的思维

通常以深刻的特定技能为特征,

例如创新思维或

在重复性任务中对细节的关注,

但这些深入的特定技能通常

与 中心连贯性弱或

难以掌握情况的要点

这是连接我们

对实践的了解的关键 f 管理层

应对有效领导

自闭症团队成员的挑战

我与我的

管理学研究生

就哪些技术简单地

假设员工了解情况的要点进行了激烈的讨论

任何带有这种假设的方法

在应用于

患有自闭症的员工,

主管会使用有缺陷的

技术,当它不起作用时,

假设员工有缺陷

而不是他们的管理方法,

我相信这是

为什么自闭症患者

很难

基于这种洞察力,我开发了我的

研讨会,讨论经理和主管

如何使用

授权和问责等常用工具

来更有效地领导

患有自闭症的团队成员

,然后我的一个学生给了我一个

绝佳的机会来测试

她是执行董事的研讨会

via of the lehigh valley

一家与自闭症患者合作的机构,

她是 让她的所有员工都可以参加

研讨会 研讨会通过

了这群经验丰富的人的严格审查,

最终让我有信心

francesca hoppe 的这一概念

与有效领导

自闭症团队成员的挑战联系起来

这一洞察力和 研讨会

也是我

在天普大学工程学院

为我的学生开发的神经多样性课程

和领导力的基础,也是我今天在这里完成之前向你提供的报价的基础,

估计有 85% 的自闭症

患者失业或就业不足,

尽管他们可能带来任何价值

他们是否获得了

大学

学位并不重要 他们是否获得了计算机科学等

受欢迎的大学学位并不重要

被排除

在我们的经济生活之外,

因为他们几乎天生

就有与我们大多数人不同的思维方式,

即使他们被排除在外 这些

差异可以证明对雇主很有价值

让我正确

看待

这个 85% 的失业率

相当于费城市全部劳动力的三倍,

因此从康卡斯特大厦的顶部到

每个人的每个社区 hoagie 商店 有一份工作,有

三个人坐在家里,就在美国

而不是全世界,他们被剥夺

了就业带来的独立性和尊严,

即使他们愿意并且经常

能够做出贡献

这不仅对自闭症患者不公平

是对人类潜力的严重浪费,

但请记住,我

不仅仅是作为父亲,

而是从组织领导的角度来看,

作为组织领导者,为什么这是

我们的问题,

为什么我们很关心将家庭

成员视为社区

成员 我们关心邻居,但作为

组织领导者

,我们没有责任

为股东带来成果

或追求我们的社会使命 对于

资助我们

或成为学生及其家人委托给我们的学费的好管家的非营利

组织,以及作为组织领导者,为什么这是

我们的问题

如果您获得 有机会

阅读 john 的一本书,或者最好还是听听

他的演讲,

我建议您这样做

害怕人们会

发现他不是真正的工程师

约翰在九年级辍学

九年级非常困难,

但约翰的父母是

当地一所大学的教员,

所以即使他辍学了,

他 能够

在晚上潜入工程实验室,在

那里他自学了电气

工程

,沉迷了一秒钟,他

自学了电气工程

,然后继续发明了一些

令人印象深刻的工程项目,

但约翰离开了工程专业,

因为他从未完成过正规

教育

因为他觉得自己不适合

我在天普大学工程学院开设了一个项目

,帮助准备技术

专业人员成长为领导

角色

我确保我的学生了解

领导自闭症患者的挑战和机遇我

确保 我的学生听到了

john Elder robeson 的故事

,然后我向他们提出了这个问题,如果

你管理工程系

,你会做些什么来阻止 john

上学期离开你的公司,一个学生说我

会做任何事情

她是绝对正确的

,你

呢,你会怎么做才能留住约翰·弗尔

如果你在那里工作,我会离开你的公司,

我会告诉你如果我

是那家公司的总裁我会怎么做

没有找到让他

适应的方法

然后你对我有问题

你可能也会离开公司

几分钟前我提出的问题

是组织领导为什么这是

我们的问题

约翰·罗伯森的故事表明

这不是我们的 问题

这是我们的机会 这是一个

让我们的组织

和我们自己更成功的机会,让

自闭症患者

能够为他们的

雇主和整个社会做出贡献

我作为总工程师的第一个项目是

一个非常复杂的美国海军项目

,需要 许多其他事情

飞行器的计算机模拟

现在可以进行此

模拟的个人是我

与autis合作的第一人 米

虽然我当时并不真正理解它

让我们称他为比尔比尔有许多

今天

我可能认为可能

患有自闭症的特征

他没有与自己进行眼神交流他喜欢在管理人员不在的情况

下工作到深夜

不要到处打扰他,

你知道,实际上我确实理解这

一点,坦率地说,我有点嫉妒

我团队中的其他一位工程师

一定有一些

自闭症的个人经历,

因为他坚持要他管理

比尔和我之间的沟通,

而不是 让我来做这件事

有点不寻常

,坦率地说,我很犹豫要不

要这样做 他管理这个通讯,所以我

同意

现在我从远处观看这些通讯

,我不确定这个家伙到底做了什么,

但我相信他知道 我的亲身

经历 francesca hoppe 后来

通过研究

证明了 bill 具有深厚的特定技能,

但在理解情况的要点方面需要比大多数人更多的帮助

我个人本不可能做出的贡献,

所以我从

对我的领导

方法的

一个很小的修改

中受益匪浅

一位听众告诉我,我

以不同的方式对待自闭症患者

,那是错误的

认真

我内化它我检查它我试图

确定批评的有效性

这通常需要五 也许 10 秒

,然后我可以反击,但

认真地,

我确实反思了这种

关于我的领导风格发展的建设性批评

,这是

我个人领导风格发展的一个分水岭时刻,

我现在尊重的人告诉我

我是总工程师,我的

工作是发号施令,把人

赶走我对此感到非常不舒服

我完全依赖我的团队

来取得个人成功

,向

比我了解更多的人大吼大叫

似乎非常冒险

最终我 发现我

要做的不是在周围指挥别人

而是找到一种让每个人一起工作的方法

我必须管理

子系统

和项目个性之间的接口

这比我想象的要困难

例如,我的一名团队成员非常厌恶风险,

他倾向于要求这么多

的项目资源

来最小化他的子系统风险 这

会使其他子系统处于

危险之中,

现在我本可以告诉他我本

可以命令他承担风险

我是总工程师,但这会使

他与项目疏远,

所以我和他一起工作我和他一起工作

为了找到

在不垄断项目资源的情况下将其子系统的风险降至最低的方法,

我与他一起工作,以便他有

信心承担

我需要他承担的风险,

另一位

经理非常关心

对他个人的政治影响

如果客户要求的测试

方法失败了,

我必须想办法给他

政治掩护,让他参与

这个项目

,当我反思这一点时,我意识到

这个团队中的几乎

每个人都有一些

障碍阻止他们完全

致力于这个项目

,我必须采取行动消除

这些障碍,

以便我反思这些

需要我干预的事件

发生 对我来说,我

收到的

关于以

不同方式

对待自闭症患者的批评是准确的批评 我确实以

不同的方式对待他

,我以

不同的方式

对待

没有

自闭症的人 团队成员

从完全致力于该

项目,当我想到这一点时,

我意识到我没有得到一个

每个人都自然适应的团队

我没有圆孔的圆钉

我没有方形

钉 方孔你知道

我从来没有那个团队事实上我

认为这个团队甚至不存在

我必须与之合作的是一个由

真实的人组成的团队

,真实的人可以像拼图

每个人不仅仅是患有自闭症的人

他们拥有惊人的能力

,结合他们自己的

个人特质和粗糙的

边缘

,如果每个人都不能适应并做出

自己独特而有价值的

贡献 整体画面的质量会

受到影响,

因此领导者的工作就像拼图一样,

为每个人找到适合自己的方法,

为整体画面的质量做出宝贵而独特的贡献,

我之前说过,我要做

一个 提出

并发出挑战 这是一

所大学

,这里有很多人参与下一代领导者

的培训和教育,

我认为如果

下一代领导者了解有效领导自闭症团队成员的

机会和挑战,

这 85 失业率将

蒸发

天普

大学工程学院的学生 了解挑战

并了解机遇 请

与我联系

较弱的中心连贯性

与深厚的特定技能相结合,使用

这种材料

m 确保您的学生了解

挑战

和机会 确保

他们已做好准备 这是我的提议

总而言之,正在出现的情况

是,

对自闭症患者

的有效领导对

每个人来说

都是有效的领导,无论是我的个人经验还是研究

在像微软

这样的地方表明,当我们更好地

领导自闭症患者时,

我们会更好地领导

每个人 适应

并做出他们独特而有价值的

贡献,

使您的组织和您自己

更加成功,

并帮助

自闭症患者

和其他不适合的人改变世界

谢谢