What baby boomers can learn from millennials at work and vice versa Chip Conley

It was my third day on the job
at a hot Silicon Valley start-up

in early 2013.

I was twice the age
of the dozen engineers in the room.

I’d been brought in to the company

because I was a seasoned
expert in my field,

but in this particular room,

I felt like a newbie amongst
the tech geniuses.

I was listening to them talk

and thinking that the best thing
I could do was be invisible.

And then suddenly, the 25-year-old
wizard leading the meeting stared at me

and asked, “If you shipped a feature
and no one used it,

did it really ship?”

(Laughter)

“Ship a feature”?

In that moment, Chip knew
he was in deep ship.

(Laughter)

I had no idea what he was talking about.

I just sat there awkwardly,

and mercifully, he moved on
to someone else.

I slid down in my chair,

and I couldn’t wait
for that meeting to end.

That was my introduction to Airbnb.

I was asked and invited
by the three millennial cofounders

to join their company

to help them take
their fast-growing tech start-up

and turn it into a global
hospitality brand,

as well as to be the in-house
mentor for CEO Brian Chesky.

Now, I’d spent from age 26 to 52
being a boutique hotel entrepreneur,

and so I guess I’d learned
a few things along the way

and accumulated
some hospitality knowledge.

But after my first week,

I realized that the brave new
home-sharing world

didn’t need much of my old-school
bricks-and-mortar hotel insights.

A stark reality rocked me:

What do I have to offer?

I’d never been in a tech company before.

Five and a half years ago, I had never
heard of the “sharing economy,”

nor did I have an Uber
or Lyft app on my phone.

This was not my natural habitat.

So, I decided at that moment
that I could either run for the hills,

or cast judgment on these young geniuses,

or instead, turn the judgment
into curiosity

and actually see if I could match
my wise eyes with their fresh eyes.

I fancied myself a modern Margaret Mead
amongst the millennials,

and I quickly learned that I had
as much to offer them

as they did to me.

The more I’ve seen and learned
about our respective generations,

the more I realize that we often
don’t trust each other enough

to actually share our respective wisdom.

We may share a border,

but we don’t necessarily trust
each other enough

to share that respective wisdom.

I believe, looking at
the modern workplace,

that the trade agreement of our time

is opening up these intergenerational
pipelines of wisdom

so that we can all learn from each other.

Almost 40 percent of us
in the United States

have a boss that’s younger than us,

and that number is growing quickly.

Power is cascading to the young
like never before

because of our increasing reliance on DQ:

digital intelligence.

We’re seeing young founders
of companies in their early 20s

scale them up to global giants
by the time they get to 30,

and yet, we expect
these young digital leaders

to somehow miraculously embody
the relationship wisdoms

we older workers
have had decades to learn.

It’s hard to microwave
your emotional intelligence.

There’s ample evidence that gender-
and ethnically diverse companies

are more effective.

But what about age?

This is a very important question,
because for the first time ever,

we have five generations in the workplace
at the same time, unintentionally.

Maybe it’s time we got
a little more intentional

about how we work collectively.

There have been a number
of European studies

that have shown that age-diverse teams
are more effective and successful.

So why is that only eight percent
of the companies

that have a diversity
and inclusion program

have actually expanded that strategy

to include age as just as important
of a demographic as gender or race?

Maybe they didn’t get the memo:

the world is getting older!

One of the paradoxes of our time

is that baby boomers are more vibrant
and healthy longer into life,

we’re actually working later into life,

and yet we’re feeling
less and less relevant.

Some of us feel like a carton
of milk – an old carton of milk –

with an expiration date stamped
on our wrinkled foreheads.

For many of us in midlife,
this isn’t just a feeling,

it is a harsh reality, when we suddenly
lose our job and the phone stops ringing.

For many of us, justifiably, we worry
that people see our experience

as a liability, not an asset.

You’ve heard of the old phrase –
or maybe the relatively new phrase –

“Sixty is the new forty, physically.”

Right?

When it comes to power
in the workplace today,

30 is the new 50.

All right, well, this is all
pretty exciting, right?

(Laughter)

Truthfully, power is moving
10 years younger.

We’re all going to live 10 years longer.

Do the math.

Society has created a new
20-year irrelevancy gap.

Midlife used to be 45 to 65,

but I would suggest it now stretches
into a midlife marathon 40 years long,

from 35 to 75.

But wait – there is a bright spot.

Why is it that we actually get smarter
and wiser about our humanity as we age?

Our physical peak may be our 20s,

our financial and salary peak
may be age 50,

but our emotional peak
is in midlife and beyond,

because we have developed pattern
recognition about ourselves and others.

So how can we get companies
to tap into that wisdom

of the midlife folks,

just as they nurture their digital
young geniuses as well?

The most successful companies
today and in the future

will actually learn how to create
a powerful alchemy of the two.

Here’s how the alchemy
worked for me at Airbnb:

I was assigned a young, smart partner,

who helped me develop
a hospitality department.

Early on, Laura Hughes could see
that I was a little lost in this habitat,

so she often sat
right next to me in meetings

so she could be my tech translator,

and I could write her notes and she
could tell me, “That’s what that means.”

Laura was 27 years old,

she’d worked for Google for four years

and then for a year and a half
at Airbnb when I met her.

Like many of her millennial cohorts,

she had actually grown into
a managerial role

before she’d gotten any formal
leadership training.

I don’t care if you’re
in the B-to-B world,

the B-to-C world, the C-to-C world
or the A-to-Z world,

business is fundamentally H-to-H:

human to human.

And yet, Laura’s approach to leadership

was really formed
in the technocratic world,

and it was purely metric driven.

One of the things she said to me
in the first few months was,

“I love the fact that your
approach to leadership

is to create a compelling vision
that becomes a North Star for us.”

Now, my fact knowledge,

as in, how many rooms a maid cleans
in an eight-hour shift,

might not be all that important
in a home-sharing world.

My process knowledge
of “How do you get things done?”

based upon understanding the underlying
motivations of everybody in the room,

was incredibly valuable,

in a company where most people didn’t have
a lot of organizational experience.

As I spent more time at Airbnb,

I realized it’s possible
a new kind of elder was emerging

in the workplace.

Not the elder of the past, who actually
was regarded with reverence.

No, what is striking about the modern
elder is their relevance,

their ability to use timeless wisdom
and apply it to modern-day problems.

Maybe it’s time we actually valued wisdom
as much as we do disruption.

And maybe it’s time –
not just maybe, it is time –

for us to definitely reclaim
the word “elder”

and give it a modern twist.

The modern elder is as much an intern
as they are a mentor,

because they realize, in a world
that is changing so quickly,

their beginners' mind and their catalytic
curiosity is a life-affirming elixir,

not just for themselves
but for everyone around them.

Intergenerational improv has been known
in music and the arts:

think Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga

or Wynton Marsalis
and the Young Stars of Jazz.

This kind of riffing in the business world
is often called “mutual mentorship”:

millennial DQ for Gen X and boomer EQ.

I got to experience that kind of
intergenerational reciprocity with Laura

and our stellar data science team

when we were actually
remaking and evolving

the Airbnb peer-to-peer review system,

using Laura’s analytical mind
and my human-centered intuition.

With that perfect alchemy
of algorithm and people wisdom,

we were able to create
and instantaneous feedback loop

that helped our hosts better understand
the needs of our guests.

High tech meets high touch.

At Airbnb, I also learned
as a modern elder

that my role was to intern publicly
and mentor privately.

Search engines are brilliant
at giving you an answer,

but a wise, sage guide can offer you
just the right question.

Google does not understand,
at least not yet,

nuance like a finely attuned
human heart and mind.

Over time,

to my surprise,

dozens and dozens of young employees
at Airbnb sought me out

for private mentoring sessions.

But in reality, we were often
just mentoring each other.

In sum, CEO Brian Chesky brought me in
for my industry knowledge,

but what I really offered
was my well-earned wisdom.

Maybe it’s time we retire the term
“knowledge worker”

and replaced it with “wisdom worker.”

We have five generations
in the workplace today,

and we can operate like
separate isolationist countries,

or we can actually start to find a way
to bridge these generational borders.

And it’s time for us to actually look
at how to change up the physics of wisdom

so it actually flows in both directions,

from old to young and from young to old.

How can you apply this in your own life?

Personally, who can you reach out to

to create a mutual
mentorship relationship?

And organizationally,
how can you create the conditions

to foster an intergenerational
flow of wisdom?

This is the new sharing economy.

Thank you.

(Applause)

2013 年初,这是我
在硅谷一家炙手可热的初创公司工作的第三天

我的年龄
是房间里十几个工程师的两倍。

我被带到公司

是因为我
是我所在领域的一位经验丰富的专家,

但在这个特殊的房间里,

我感觉自己
像是技术天才中的新手。

我正在听他们说话,

并认为我能做的最好的事情
就是隐形。

突然间,领导会议的 25 岁
巫师盯着

我问道:“如果你发布了一项功能
而没有人使用它

,它真的发布了吗?”

(笑声)

“发布一个功能”?

那一刻,奇普知道
自己身处深海之中。

(笑声)

我不知道他在说什么。

我只是尴尬地坐在那里

,幸运的是,他转向
了另一个人。

我在椅子上滑了下来,

等不及那次会议结束了。

那是我对 Airbnb 的介绍。

三位千禧一代联合创始人

邀请并邀请我加入他们的公司

,帮助他们将
快速发展的科技

初创公司转变为全球
酒店品牌

,并
担任 CEO Brian Chesky 的内部导师。

现在,我从 26 岁到 52 岁
都是一家精品酒店的企业家

,所以我想我在此过程中学到
了一些东西

并积累了
一些酒店知识。

但在第一周之后,

我意识到勇敢的新
家庭共享世界

并不需要我对
老式实体酒店的太多见解。

一个严峻的现实震惊了我:

我能提供什么?

我以前从未在科技公司工作过。

五年半前,我从未
听说过“共享经济”

,我的手机上也没有 Uber 或 Lyft 应用程序。

这不是我的自然栖息地。

所以,那一刻我决定,
要么跑上山去,

要么评判这些年轻的天才

,要么把评判
变成好奇

,真正看看我是否能将
我的智慧与他们新鲜的眼睛相匹配。

我把自己想象
成千禧一代中的现代玛格丽特米德酒

,我很快就知道我
可以为他们提供

和他们对我一样多的东西。


对我们各自世代的了解和了解

越多,我就越意识到我们常常
彼此不够信任,

无法真正分享我们各自的智慧。

我们可能有共同的边界,

但我们不一定彼此信任

到足以分享各自的智慧。

我相信,
看看现代工作场所,

我们这个时代的贸易协定

正在开辟这些代际
智慧的管道,

以便我们大家可以互相学习。 在美国,

近 40%

的老板都有比我们年轻的老板,

而且这个数字还在快速增长。

由于我们越来越依赖 DQ:

数字智能,权力正以前所未有的方式传递给年轻人。

我们看到
20 岁出头的公司的年轻创始人在 30 岁时将

他们扩大为全球巨头

,然而,我们希望
这些年轻的数字领导者

能够以某种方式奇迹般地体现

我们年长
员工几十年来学习的关系智慧 .

很难微波
你的情商。

有充分的证据表明,性别
和种族多元化的

公司更有效。

但是年龄呢?

这是一个非常重要的问题,
因为有史以来第一次,

我们无意中同时在工作场所同时拥有五代人

也许是时候让
我们更加有意识地

了解我们如何集体工作了。

许多欧洲研究

表明,年龄多样化的
团队更有效和更成功。

那么,为什么只有 8%

的拥有多元化
和包容性计划的

公司实际上扩展了该战略

,将年龄
纳入与性别或种族同等重要的人口统计数据中呢?

也许他们没有得到备忘录

:世界正在变老!

我们这个时代的悖论之一

是婴儿潮一代在生命中更加充满活力
和健康,

我们实际上是在晚年工作

,但我们感觉
越来越不重要。

我们中的一些人感觉就像
一盒牛奶——一盒旧牛奶——

在我们皱巴巴的额头上印有保质期。

对于中年的许多人来说,
这不仅仅是一种感觉,

而是一个严酷的现实,当我们突然
失去工作并且电话停止响起时。

对于我们中的许多人来说,我们有理由
担心人们将我们的经验

视为一种负担,而不是一种资产。

你听说过这句老话——
或者可能是相对较新的短语——

“六十是新的四十,身体上的。”

对?

说到
今天职场上的权力,

30 就是新的 50。

好吧,好吧,这一切都
非常令人兴奋,对吧?

(笑声)

老实说,权力正在
年轻 10 岁。

我们都将多活 10 年。

算一算。

社会创造了一个新的
20 年的不相关性差距。

中年曾经是 45 到 65 岁,

但我建议它现在延伸
到长达 40 年的中年马拉松,

从 35 岁到 75 岁。

但是等等——有一个亮点。

为什么
随着年龄的增长,我们实际上对人性变得更加聪明和明智?

我们的身体高峰可能是 20 多岁,

我们的财务和薪水高峰
可能是 50 岁,

但我们的情感高峰
是在中年及以后,

因为我们已经发展出
对自己和他人的模式识别。

那么,我们如何才能让公司

利用中年人的智慧,

就像他们培养他们的数字
年轻天才一样呢?

今天和未来最成功的公司

实际上将学习如何创造
两者的强大炼金术。

以下是 Airbnb 的炼金术
对我的作用:

我被分配了一个年轻、聪明的合作伙伴,

他帮助我发展
了一个酒店部门。

早些时候,劳拉·休斯 (Laura Hughes) 可以
看出我在这个栖息地有点迷失,

所以她经常
在开会时坐在我旁边,

这样她就可以成为我的技术翻译

,我可以给她写笔记,她
可以告诉我,“就是这样 这意味着。”

Laura 27 岁,

我在 Google 工作了四年

,然后在 Airbnb 工作了一年半

像她的许多千禧一代一样,

在她接受任何正式的
领导力培训之前,她实际上已经成长为管理角色。

我不在乎你是
在 B-to-B 世界

、B-to-C 世界、C-to-C 世界
还是 A-to-Z 世界,

商业本质上是 H-to-H :

人与人之间。

然而,劳拉的领导

方式确实是
在技术专家的世界中形成的,

而且它纯粹是由度量驱动的。 在最初的几个月里,

她对我说的其中一件事
是,

“我喜欢这样一个事实,即你
的领导方式

是创造一个令人信服的愿景
,成为我们的北极星。”

现在,我的事实知识,

例如一个女仆在八小时轮班中清洁多少个房间


在家庭共享世界中可能并不那么重要。

我的过程
知识“你是如何完成工作的?”

基于了解
房间里每个人的潜在动机

在大多数人没有太多组织经验的公司中,这是非常有价值的

随着我在 Airbnb 待的时间越来越长,

我意识到工作场所可能
正在出现一种新的长者类型

不是昔日的长老,居然
被人尊崇。

不,现代
长者的惊人之处在于他们的相关性,

他们运用永恒智慧
并将其应用于现代问题的能力。

也许是时候我们真正
像对待破坏一样重视智慧了。

也许是时候了——
不仅仅是也许,是时候了——

让我们明确地重新
使用“长者”这个词

并赋予它现代感。

现代长者既是
实习生又是导师,

因为他们意识到,在瞬息万变的世界

,初学者的思想和催化的
好奇心是肯定生命的灵丹妙药,

不仅对他们自己
,对周围的每个人 他们。

代际即兴表演
在音乐和艺术领域广为人知:

想想托尼·贝内特和 Lady Gaga

或温顿·马萨利斯
和爵士乐新星。

这种商业世界中的即兴表演
通常被称为“相互指导”:

X世代的千禧一代DQ和婴儿潮一代的情商。

当我们

利用 Laura 的分析思维
和我以人为本的直觉,真正改造和发展 Airbnb 点对点审查系统时,我与 Laura 和我们出色的数据科学团队经历了这种代际互惠。

凭借
算法和人类智慧的完美炼金术,

我们能够
创建即时反馈循环

,帮助我们的主人更好地了解
客人的需求。

高科技遇上高触感。

在 Airbnb,
作为一名现代长者,我还

了解到我的职责是公开实习
和私下指导。

搜索引擎
在为您提供答案方面非常出色,

但明智的、睿智的指南可以为您提供
正确的问题。

谷歌不理解,至少现在还没有理解

细微的差别,就像一个协调良好的
人类心灵和思想。

随着时间的推移,

令我惊讶的是,Airbnb 的

数十名年轻
员工找我

参加私人辅导课程。

但实际上,我们经常
只是互相指导。

总而言之,CEO Brian Chesky
让我了解行业知识,

但我真正提供的
是我来之不易的智慧。

也许是时候让“知识工作者”这个词退休了

,代之以“智慧工作者”。 今天

我们在工作场所有五代人

,我们可以像
独立的孤立主义国家一样运作,

或者我们实际上可以开始寻找一种方法
来弥合这些代际界限。

现在是我们真正
研究如何改变智慧物理的

时候了,它实际上是双向流动的,

从老到年轻,从年轻到老。

你怎么能把它应用到你自己的生活中呢?

就个人而言,您可以联系

谁来建立相互
指导的关系?

在组织上,
你如何创造条件

来促进代际
智慧的流动?

这就是新的共享经济。

谢谢你。

(掌声)